Hi all,
I first installed cm-10.1.3-xt897 since it is the latest stable release on CyanogenMod official xt897 downloads page. My main reasons for using CM are stockness and customization, and stability is a must so I generally stick to the stable releases.
However, cm-10.1.3-xt897 seems to suffer from frequent freezes lasting 5-10 seconds in landscape mode (unless HW overlays were disabled). So I decided to try cm-10.2-20131102-SNAPSHOT-M1 instead, and it seems to have resolved that specific issue, and I haven't encountered any other serious issues affecting my usage patterns with it.
Now, I had expected that my next upgrade would be to cm-10.2 stable, but I've noticed that no RCs or stables have been released for xt897, and the nightlies have jumped to CM11. Is a cm-10.2 stable release still a possibility?
If not, what is the reasoning for that? For me cm-10.2(M1) seems to work much better than the current stable release (CM 10.1.3), so it doesn't seem to make sense to not release a stable CM 10.2. Unless of course there are notable regressions from CM 10.1.3 that I'm just not seeing in my use? (I haven't seen anything in the CM10.2 dev thread, though, but I admit I may have missed it.) Thankfully it is not a huge loss for me, though, as M1 works fine, so I can just continue using it for now.
And if cm-10.2 xt897 stable is still planned, I apologise for my hastiness. (I would have expected nightlies to remain on 10.2 until such a release.)
In any case thanks to all the devs working on this, good to have a qwerty android phone running a decent firmware
As far as I have seen, CM has stated they are done developing 10.2 as of 12/5. I don't remember exactly what the difference is between a monthly snapshot and stable, but for my experience with CM since version 7, they don't mean a lot. I've seen issues with "stable" releases and and rock solid nightlies. I'm currently running the skrilax 11/29 nightly and its great. There are apparently still some issues with CM11 so i'm holding off on that for a while.
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What is the purpose of a nightly (high frequency of updates) build?
I'm currently using AmeriCanAndroid AOSP HD2 GB233 CM7, but used to use HD2ONE v3.6.
Apart from rapid updates, why not just release something monthly that might not have as many bugs as the nightly release? HD2ONE seemed stable enough, less the bluetooth, but a good deal of updates form AmiCanAndroid seem to need special tweaking.
I'm not entirely new here. I've been using android on my HD2 for a while and pretty much understand how to get myself up and running. So I'm trying to post for access to the developers forum, but with some legitimate questions here in the Q&A...
Nightly builds are just a progression of the development process from one Release Candidate to the next. It's a way of incorporating and then testing new fixes and features as they become available.
Just a quick question. The stable CM10 for our vzd2w devices is dated for 11-13-2012. I feel I should know this, but I am wondering, are the nightlies, say, for today, 12-08 more stable than the stable candidate released almost a month ago?
Is that the point of nightlies? To fix bugs and improve anything on previous candidates?
Do nightlies sometimes present with new issues/bugs?
Again, I know I should know this, but I NEED clarification as a search of any kind leads me to the nightly download site or ROMs based on the nightly releases. These questions are not addressed.
Thanks for your replies!!
tcsheen said:
Just a quick question. The stable CM10 for our vzd2w devices is dated for 11-13-2012. I feel I should know this, but I am wondering, are the nightlies, say, for today, 12-08 more stable than the stable candidate released almost a month ago?
Is that the point of nightlies? To fix bugs and improve anything on previous candidates?
Do nightlies sometimes present with new issues/bugs?
Again, I know I should know this, but I NEED clarification as a search of any kind leads me to the nightly download site or ROMs based on the nightly releases. These questions are not addressed.
Thanks for your replies!!
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In general the nightlies are completely usable. They are used as a means for the cm10 team to test new features, and attempt to squash bugs. With software development when changes are made it is not uncommon for new and unforseen bugs to arise, its sort of a game of cat and mouse. Because of this, every so often things that had worked fine previously become broken in one nightly and are then promptly fixed in the next. For the last month or more the cm10 nightly builds have suffered from a host of bluetooth, microphone, nfc, and screen wake issues that seem to vary in severity from one nightly to the next. Some of these problems have been found to have flashable fixes, others do not. For many, myself included, this is the simply the price of being on the cutting edge of Android development. If this doesn't sound appealing then perhaps the stable builds are the way to go. Keep in mind that although the stable builds tend to be more reliable, they do have their fair share of bugs and glitches, some of which have since been sorted out on the nightlies. Either way cm10 is a far slicker experience than touchwiz, and in my opinion, the way to go. Just an fyi, I have dirty flashed one nightly to the next without incident, and if thats the route you decide to go it could save you some time.
i think stable is better... nightlies can work or not, so hit and miss....
I have personally never had a problem with the CM10 nightlies, and I have been using them for a couple of weeks now. But your experience may vary depending on your setup.
Good rule of thumb is if you're not prepared to deal with any issues that could arise then stick with stable. I always seem to have a few builds on my SD card and a titanium backup in case things really go sideways on me.
It depends on what your priorities are with this phone. For example the same 11/10 nightly was the last one without the bluetooth low bass bug, but but the 12/06 and newer nightlies have improved data drops for a bunch of people. If you rely on mobile data a lot the 12/08 nightly might be the one for you to try, but if you do a lot of bluetooth streaming then maybe the 11/10 nightly would work best for you.
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I switch from ICS to CM10 nightlies, which was for the most part a great daily driver. Then I flashed the new Jellybean leak and battery life was great (50% more than CM10) but I lost bluetooth. Last CM10 I used was in mid October. Has the battery life improved in the last 2 months?
So CM10.1 recently got an update to the m1 snapshot and I was wondering what's a milestone snapshot? Never knew what it is and how is it different from stable?
danshuynh said:
So CM10.1 recently got an update to the m1 snapshot and I was wondering what's a milestone snapshot? Never knew what it is and how is it different from stable?
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Cyanogenmod said:
Something we have learned over the past few months is that if you don’t release, someone else will do it for you. Since we are open-source, we absolutely encourage it! Unfortunately, the quality of unofficial builds can vary, and we are serious about quality. Of course nightlies are always available, but we realized that having something that is a bit more stable on a more frequent basis is important. Starting now, we are rolling out our M-Series releases. M-Series builds will be done at the beginning of every month. We did a soft freeze of the codebase for the last week, blocking new features in order to stabilize. Our plan is to continue this (assuming that the response is good) up until stable release, and onward.
We aren’t exactly sure what M stands for. “Monthly”, “milestone”, or perhaps “MINE ALL MINE!”. Whatever it is, I hope that we are meeting the needs of community.
M-Series builds will be available under the EXPERIMENTAL tag. The filename will include the date stamp as well as the M version. These builds should be stable enough for daily use, and we encourage feedback and bug reports.
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http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/cyanogenmod-10-m1
So.. Yesterday rc1 was posted and today there is a new nightly... So.. Is rc1 now out of date or does it contain all the goodness of 05_09? And what about future nightlies and rc1? Will there be rc2, rc3 etc as more nightlies are released?
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RC1 is the first release candidate. The nightlies are still experimental and could be unstable. There might be an RC2, but it could also end up that there won't be another RC and that it will be released as the Stable version. I don't think anyone has a real answer to that.
Stay with the stable release
Nightlies are everyday or every compilation progress reports. If something goes wrong it is easily traceable by the nightlies released almost daily to pinpoint the source of the change that caused the issue and go back and take a look at it. That is how various developers from all across the world are able to contribute to the same code, and stay on track.
They also have a changelog associated with them which tells you exactly what changed between the newly released one and the older one.
Release candidate is a milestone. They might have 2 or 3 planned before the actual “stable release” but it all depends on the allocation of their time and resources. They might not get to perfecting everything the way certain developers want it and when the time comes for the final release it might just jump from RC1 to a stable release with nothing in between but nightlies. And you will still see a couple of nightlies after a stable release too.
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Hi, thanks to the great TeamApexQ I am running last week's modified CM and loving it. I have a very simple question which might be useful to others: everything I need is installed, and the phone works like a charm. I am in "steady state" - how often would you recommend upgrading to the latest nightly? This is the device I use every day for work and life, not an experimental setup. Are there any announcements posted about big breakthroughs in nightlies? I guess reaching stable versions would make it easier to follow.
thanks
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If it's stable, stay with what you have. If you're having troubles, if you hear of a particular bug of interest being fixed, or some feature you're excited for testing becomes available, upgrade.
Magamo said:
If it's stable, stay with what you have. If you're having troubles, if you hear of a particular bug of interest being fixed, or some feature you're excited for testing becomes available, upgrade.
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Thanks. Will do - for reference, can you tell us specifically where to look for a) CM relay 4g-specific changelog/bugfixes/news, and b) TeamApexQ nightlies changelog/bugfixes/news?
Thanks again
The changelogs provided with CM Updater has apexq specific bits, as do the changelogs released alongside the TeamApexQ staging builds. All standard places really.