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10 posts or less

Ridiculous rule. I mainly use other forums. When I do use XDA I can never reply because I have less than 10 posts. BUT because I can't post I get pissed and leave. Thanks to MDW, DF, and all the others for not having a stupid rule.

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Yeh I am finding this issue too. Very annoying!
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Yeah, so just dump 10 posts in this thread and be done with it. I understand why the rule is in place, but yeah, annoying

emilianoheyns said:
Yeah, so just dump 10 posts in this thread and be done with it. I understand why the rule is in place, but yeah, annoying
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10 spam posts will be removed by the mods and your post counter reset.
Do something usefull with your posts.

How hard is it to answer some questions or chime in on a discussion? Visit your device's Q&A and General subforums and help some people out. If you can't do that, then you don't deserve to post in the other forums.
The rule is there for a reason. If you just want to say thanks or ask a question about a thread in Development, send the member a pm until you get your post count up. Or post your question in Q&A... after searching first.
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plainjane said:
....If you just want to say thanks or ask a question about a thread in Development, send the member a pm until you get your post count up. Or post your question in Q&A... after searching first.
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You shouldnt say thanks in a post, thats what the THANKS button is for. To reduce spam of that kind.
Posting your Question in a device specific or general Q&A thread is generally the best idea.
Some devs don't like it if they get PMs with question "how do i", "why does not", "how come"...
But beforehand you should have worked the search button so hard, your girlfriend got jealous....

post counting

ok i was just trying to reply to a post from on the developers forum. but apparently because i'm a new user i have to have 10 posts somewhere else before i can post there.
so i started looking around the threads in general and questions and answers for a thread where i could possibly add some value to the debate when i found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502&page=283
The last comment says it all. Maybe it's the fault of the noobs for posting stupid things on a thread to get their post count up. Or maybe it's the administrators fault for imposing a seemingly arbitrary restriction on new users. Who knows. All I can say is that because I'm not going to post useless me too comments on other threads by the time my meaningful post count reaches 10, the original developer thread I wanted to comment on will have moved on.
It seems like a complete waste of time to me.

Read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069298

Ok that's all fair enough in principle but it's just not reality. People are not following those rules. Take this for example:
"Basically, if you did not create "it", then doesn't belong in development."
And then look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1258543&page=540
540 pages of comments. So called experienced users are doing this. And if i want to join in the debate what i am supposed to do?

No it is not waste off time
I was "forced" to find and help 3 persons in general discusion that noone "real" developer want to loose time on helping them. I felt very happy with this. ...........
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Yea i count one more post xD

I suppose I have to answer my own question. Basically I have to drag this thread out til my post count reaches 10 at which point I will have the ability to break the rules and comment on stuff I didn't create in the dev threads with all the other 'experts'.

sleeveroller said:
I suppose I have to answer my own question. Basically I have to drag this thread out til my post count reaches 10 at which point I will have the ability to break the rules and comment on stuff I didn't create in the dev threads with all the other 'experts'.
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The rules don't say you can't comment if you didn't make it. You should not create threads in dev forums unless its about something you created.
That's the difference that seems to be overlooked by most people.

I'm not talking about creating a new thread though. Someone else has created one and it now has 540+ pages of comments from people qualified to comment because they have previously made 10 posts somewhere else.
Some of it is intelligent discussion. Some of it is not. All of it is against the spirit of the rules apparently. But if that is where the discussion is taking place why prevent someone from contributing potentially interesting content?

Exceptions are a minority. And like every other government, "we don't care".
$1 gets you a reply

fanisxda said:
I was "forced" to find and help 3 persons in general discusion that noone "real" developer want to loose time on helping them. I felt very happy with this. ...........
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Yea i count one more post xD
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This person is correct
You can look in the Q&A forums and maybe help someone in there. It's really not difficult to make 10 useful posts.

I think the point is you either enforce 10 posts before you can create a developer thread. A thread which is readonly for everyone but the Creator. Or else you have a free for all. But the way it works now is just a pointless waste of time.
(Half way there)

only member have 10 minimum post....why?

Hello All....
Sory before...i have join XDA forum, since time along ago.....
But, just from now i have been post in this forum...
Why? cause only member have 10 minimum post can reply the thread in every section...
I hope admin, can reduction this problem...cause, much member like me want to reply the thread but he can't....
anyway...thanks before for any respon....

This is exactly why there is 10 minimum useful posts rule.
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yes i also want to ask question on development forum.

Because of selfish people posting stuff like: "yo, I didnt read the guide or the faq lol so plz post a one-click exe so dat i can install the hackz0rz on my phone thx."
Personally, I don't think this 10 post limit is that effective. However, it might deter the worst offenders...

XDA has rules like this in place for a reason and if you don't like them, it's tough really. The rules won't simply change because a few people moan about them.
So you want to post in the development forums? Either it's going to be a question which belongs in Q&A, you saying "Thanks" for a ROM, or being genuine and reporting an issue with a certain ROM etc.
Now, if it belongs in Q&A, keep it in Q&A. If you just want to say 'thanks', there's a button for that. And if you want to report a problem, bug etc. then either the dev already knows about it because of someone else reporting it, OR it's something that can wait until you've made 10 helpful posts. (If it was something too major, the dev would already know about it)
Is it really so hard for you to make 10 constructive posts? The answer to that is no.
The best way to do that is to answer other people's problems and queries in the General and Q&A forums for your device. Now that's really not hard to do.
And, on a final note, as you'll notice here, if you stay around for long enough and help others out, it's only the people who have around 10 posts who moan about the rule. People who have passed this restriction don't keep *****ing about it or anything like that. They simply say, while it may not have been ideal, we'll do as instructed and stick to the rules so we can truly enjoy our time as part of this vibrant community.
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KidCarter93 said:
XDA has rules like this in place for a reason and if you don't like them, it's tough really. The rules won't simply change because a few people moan about them.
So you want to post in the development forums? Either it's going to be a question which belongs in Q&A, you saying "Thanks" for a ROM, or being genuine and reporting an issue with a certain ROM etc.
Now, if it belongs in Q&A, keep it in Q&A. If you just want to say 'thanks', there's a button for that. And if you want to report a problem, bug etc. then either the dev already knows about it because of someone else reporting it, OR it's something that can wait until you've made 10 helpful posts. (If it was something too major, the dev would already know about it)
Is it really so hard for you to make 10 constructive posts? The answer to that is no.
The best way to do that is to answer other people's problems and queries in the General and Q&A forums for your device. Now that's really not hard to do.
And, on a final note, as you'll notice here, if you stay around for long enough and help others out, it's only the people who have around 10 posts who moan about the rule. People who have passed this restriction don't keep *****ing about it or anything like that. They simply say, while it may not have been ideal, we'll do as instructed and stick to the rules so we can truly enjoy our time as part of this vibrant community.
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What he said, the rules are in place to stop normal users posting no dev stuff in the development section.

this is a rule, follow the rules and try to help.... and read a lot! learn a lot! and then help a lot!

I have often solutions for some problems, but i can't post in development. It's stupid (10 posts)
You can do another restrictions for spammers etc.

SphunaR said:
I have often solutions for some problems, but i can't post in development. It's stupid (10 posts)
You can do another restrictions for spammers etc.
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If the rule was considered "stupid" then it wouldn't be in place. It's in place in an attempt to cut down on the spam and useless crap which goes into the development forums. There's no 100% way of stopping spam but at least this aides the solution.
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SphunaR said:
I have often solutions for some problems, but i can't post in development. It's stupid (10 posts)
You can do another restrictions for spammers etc.
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People still post ALOT that shouldnt be in the dev, but this is one way to slow it down
To many people post questions in the dev forum and so it had to be done

I think it's a good idea... personally i entered here to find answers to some questions about my phone (a Huawei U8180), but every single question that i had has already been answered... and i don't flood a thread with my silly questions... so... i think this method is good.

ompew said:
Hello All....
Sory before...i have join XDA forum, since time along ago.....
But, just from now i have been post in this forum...
Why? cause only member have 10 minimum post can reply the thread in every section...
I hope admin, can reduction this problem...cause, much member like me want to reply the thread but he can't....
anyway...thanks before for any respon....
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Let's be honest, making ten posts really isn't hard.
Unfortunately a lot of people seem to get their ten posts by complaining that they have to get ten posts in the first place.
Dave
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Okizhaa said:
Baaaad ...
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All your posts up to now are useless, and doesn't contribute to the forums at all. Mostly just a few words answering the, what is your first phone, forum or something like that.
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First of all, wrong section for this type of topic. Secondly, this rule is in place for a number of good reasons and likely will remain, so complaining isn't go to get anyone anywhere. Finally, cheap attempts to increase one's post count beyond 10 (ie. spam) will result in those posts being deleted and a warning being issued. Thread closed.

Dev Thread "Spam"

Got some cleanup requests already, so I figured this might help.
The thing with dev thread "spam" is that it is really in the eye of the beholder. :cyclops:
Ultimately it is up to us mods of course but getting some guidance by the devs would be helpful. We can do a thread cleaning on request of the OP, but what I view as "spam" is not necessarily the same as wardfan220's definition of spam. Or the OP's definition of spam.
Everybody knows it when they see it, but what I see is not what you see.
Please do not respond to those posts or troll or flame the poster. Instead, click on the little triangle button in the upper corner of the post and report it so that wardfan220 and I might deal with it appropriately. We aren't trying to stop people from posting, we are trying to teach them to post appropriately.
Some general types of posts that get reported are:
"Thanks for a great ROM" posts
"ETA" posts
"Bug reports" without proper troubleshooting or logging
"Didn't read the OP" posts
Off Topic for various reasons
Please consider this from two angles. What is unacceptable from a new user with 10 posts is often tolerated or even acceptable when done by a senior member or a dev team member for each example above. This can often lead to a perception of unfairness, from both sides.
We will get PM's by new users asking, "why did you delete my "thanks" post in the dev thread and not delete member xxxxxxx's "thanks" post? Is it because member xxxxxxx has 150 posts and I have 10?"
We will get PM's from current users asking "why did you delete my Only-Slightly-Off-Topic post in the dev thread? I have been a good member and it was just a little off topic and the dev doesn't mind".
If the devs could write up some general rules or guidelines as to what they find acceptable or not in their first or second post, when they ask for a thread cleaning or when members report posts as "dev thread spam", it would be very helpful to us making a more informed decision on what is spam and what is not, and have a better chance of getting the dev/OPs desired results, whether in avoiding posts or after the party cleanup.
Discussions and thoughts are welcome.
Thank you,
mf2112

^^ I agree that there is a very fine line between what's acceptable and what's not.
Earlier, I planned on making an "Etiquette thread" just for general guidance, but seeing some replies from fellow members on other thread, gave up on it.
One thing I believe in is that asking for ETA is definitely spam, irrespective of what beautiful wrapper it's wrapped in, because it basically undermines whatever the developer has done so far, in her/her personal time. So, if reported, these posts should be warned.
Other thing I believe is people should be more lenient towards "New users". Instead of scaring them away, or instead of spoonfeeding them with answers, they should be directed to correct thread, where they can read/understand what's going on, and maybe be directed towards development/modding/porting/etc. That's the only way 9003 would be out of "low activity device"
Will add more(got some more as I did a lot of thinking on this) later on, as I need to get a haircut now.
Thanks for this discussion.

Well i admit i am pretty aggressive to noobs which is wrong and against the rules in the first place, but some of them just get on my nerves.
They sometimes just call me or a dev fags / (place world's insults here) for helping them with their question and then sticking a "It's not the right place to ask such questions' note or because a dev is taking his time and not updating something every second.
Others also ignore all other posts / instructions, ask the same question and keep spamming and not accepting to follow the installation instructions again, they don't even post a logcat/whatever to support their claims.
I mostly resort to being a little aggressive and reporting the post if they don't cooperate.. Now i am not a mod, but i don't like being treated like that or seeing some respected member getting insulted because of a fat lazy noob not doing anything and insulting everyone.
Conclusion:
I agree with everything you said here and i do think mods should work with devs and members directly and should take some serious actions against offenders from now on.
I really feel bad for you with having to deal with such issues daily
Goodluck!

Has there been any luck with this idea?
Have devs even attempted it or just ignored this post?
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Not much response, but that's ok.

That's a shame really because it's a really good idea.
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[Q] i cant reply

where do we supposed to reply in this forum? if we make a new thread here, they will closed it. if we reply to the topic that we needed, we are not allowed. what will we do here?

New version for taptalk have this problem .. just try many time it will work
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zerovirusity said:
where do we supposed to reply in this forum? if we make a new thread here, they will closed it. if we reply to the topic that we needed, we are not allowed. what will we do here?
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You need to fulfill the 10 post rule first. Most threads are development threads, therefore new members are not allowed to post until the 10 post minimum is met. This doesn't mean go and make 10 spam/junk/worthless posts either. Someone is always watching for this kind of behaviour.

zerovirusity said:
to all members here, although we are newbies here, we are aware of the rules in this forum because i am also a member in some forums. i hope you will considerate us. we chose to be a member here because this forum has a lot of things that we needed and some answers for our questions. if that's the case that we need to post 10 or more than posts, then please allow us here to post. don't closed it first until we reach 10 posts.
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Threads are only closed for irrelevant posts/spam. Make a worthwhile post and it won't be deleted/locked/removed. Pretty simple really. Everyone needs to bear in mind that this forum is intended for developers. Which 90% or better of you are not.

There are already plenty of threads that discuss this topic, so we don't need a new once (hence the closure).
One of my favourite reasons for the 10 post rule is that it encourages most users (the less spammy and needy ones) to spend more time reading than trying to post in development forums. If you do spend enough time reading you find that 99% of your questions have already been answered, and you learn a hell of a lot and start being able to answer questions yourself. That's a great way to take part in the community as a contributing member. In fairness, if you come here to leech and not participate then you're not adding anything to the forum.
Anyway, if you want more info then see the link in my signature about 10 posts - that should answer more questions