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I am posting this because of what this user said and got flamed because it,
so about posting and searching on XDA...
As it turns out when I do a search for a topic the little search bar gives me EVERYTHING I dont need.. and NOTHING about what I do.. I understand that a lot of people just post new threads about the same crud but still, instead of just jumping down their throats take time to listen and tell them and, if you know, where to find the topic they are looking for .. perhaps with a link and a polite comment.
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Guy's in case you are not aware of it....here are new rules are regarding Flaming etc etc....And with the recent flaming of a member here...here is a quote from the new rules ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=263
by Flar Administrator
2. Be polite and respect your fellow xda-dev user.
There is no need for cursing, flaming, racism or personal attacks. There are a lot of different nationalities on this forum all with different cultures, this means that no matter what you're like, you'll have to adjust to people that are most definitely not like you. It will gain you a lot of respect if you help to keep the peace. It's disrespectful and therefore not permitted to create Alias Member names in an attempt to deceive others.
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Now this user post a thread and even stated he had trouble with the search not finding what he was looking for, and yet several member just had to flame him , mostly newbies that have been here a short time themselves.
And I ask the mods to help re-enforce these rules and send the message to we need to be respectful of each other....and yes I know this is in the Development forum, but since it is happening in here , many of the users need to be reminded of it..
As to the Search engine here on XDA well it does lack the ability to weed out Il-Revelate info so till it can , keep in mind that many users do attempt to search for the info but the search results do not give them what they seek, so let just help out the user and answer there question and move on...
or just do not reply period if you can not be helpful..
There's a rule before that one that says to "Search Before Posting"
the only time I am hard on newbies is if they don't search or do work themselves. And if you're referring to the thread I think you're referring to, you should know that I've actually received a PM from that individual, and we have both explained our views very plainly and I am awaiting his reply.
I'm actually working on a project to avoid these problems in the future. You'll like it. But note that this is also kind of an attack against everyone here, though you have a valid point, perhaps this would be better personally and politely sent to those whom you think are at fault in a PM?
Edit: yeah, you're right, it does often turn up irrelevant info, but if you see threads getting pulled up, click the thread and search within the thread to find relevant posts in the thread. Also, the thread title for this thread, though I see you're trying to get everyone's attention for it, is misleading and inappropriate for the topic at hand.
I respect both of you and see that you both have valid points, there is a fine line to be walked when it comes to this, I think it comes down to treating others as you would want to be treated. I am amazed at how much I learn when I am just trying to help someone else out! So that being said, I think it can do a person some good to devote some of their time on XDA everyday to helping someone out, even five min can make a difference to somebody, might even save them a $300 phone! And thats all I have to say about that! (Forest Gump)
Trav ,
first off this is not meant as a attack but it did need to be strongly word...granted you are correct that it does comes off that way...and i know that there are a great many here do go out of there way to help others..To those this thread is not directed at you.
As to the title ...well it seems that the banner displaying the new rules info is not getting the attention of small group that still continue the flaming...hence the title...
More users and mods need to get the message across to those that do the flaming and are disrespectful to others needs to stop...
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y'know my momma always said that life is like a box of chocolates, you never do know which one you're going to get.
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y'know my momma always said that life is like a box of chocolates, you never do know which one you're going to get.
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can you post link to this flamed thread so that others can look at it?
I see this thread has been moved...
I have a suggestion then...if the mods are going to remove threads like this that bring attention to issues that are going on in the forum then more attention needs to be paid to those users who flame and disrespect others in those forums........
Here is my suggestion on how to handle them.. when mods read a thread that has flaming going on in it...before locking it...they need to make a post addressing the flaming issue and point it out what will happen if it continues..
Maybe consider bringing on more mods to help with the work load that the current ones are dealing with, I am not knocking the current ones, .they do a great job , but this is a huge site and it is growing fast .
BTw this thread was originally in the Kaiser Rom forum where the problem originally occurred and still continues..
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I see this thread has been moved...
I have a suggestion then...if the mods are going to remove threads like this that bring attention to issues that are going on in the forum then more attention needs to be paid to those users who flame and disrespect others in those forums........
Here is my suggestion on how to handle them.. when mods read a thread that has flaming going on in it...before locking it...they need to make a post addressing the flaming issue and point it out what will happen if it continues..
Maybe consider bringing on more mods to help with the work load that the current ones are dealing with, I am not knocking the current ones, .they do a great job , but this is a huge site and it is growing fast .
BTw this thread was originally in the Kaiser Rom forum where the problem originally occurred and still continues..
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they have 60 mods and will not be bringing on more, thats what i was told by a mod, do you have a link to the thread in question?
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they have 60 mods and will not be bringing on more, thats what i was told by a mod, do you have a link to the thread in question?
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Hmmm 60 mods interesting..
Link? just look in many of the forums..this is not a new problem...
but it is a very easily fixable one ...
by enforcing this
by Flar Administrator
2. Be polite and respect your fellow xda-dev user.
There is no need for cursing, flaming, racism or personal attacks. There are a lot of different nationalities on this forum all with different cultures, this means that no matter what you're like, you'll have to adjust to people that are most definitely not like you. It will gain you a lot of respect if you help to keep the peace. It's disrespectful and therefore not permitted to create Alias Member names in an attempt to deceive others.
Here is a link so that people can read the WHOLE thread, instead of the tiny bit you took out of context. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494625
The guy got flamed ( and I did not consider that flaming) because he posted a belligerent and antagonizing thread in the ( wrong ) rom development forum, not because he was a noob politely asking for help.
If you are going to take the members of this forum to task, do it with all the information please.
denco7 said:
Here is a link so that people can read the WHOLE thread, instead of the tiny bit you took out of context. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494625
The guy got flamed ( and I did not consider that flaming) because he posted a belligerent and antagonizing thread in the ( wrong ) rom development forum, not because he was a noob politely asking for help.
If you are going to take the members of this forum to task, do it with all the information please.
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If you really want to get to the real reason behind this thread ...what caused him to make that post in the first place huh? do you know ? could it be that he asked a simple question and got the usual responses ? nawww
I was not going to drag that user into this thread like you have....I felt he has caught enough flak as it is...so what do you think will be gained by you dragging his name into this...?
Cause and effect...and his thread is not the only time someone got flamed for asking a simple question is it now ? EVEN AFTER they stated they had tried to use the search .
I wonder if you will answer these questions / or was your intent to attempt to turn the tables away from the real issue at hand ?
Btw that thread was closed with only one response from a mod..
As to the part i used....that is the main point of this thread incase you missed it..
F2504x4 said:
As to the Search engine here on XDA well it does lack the ability to weed out Il-Revelate info so till it can , keep in mind that many users do attempt to search for the info but the search results do not give them what they seek, so let just help out the user and answer there question and move on...
or just do not reply period if you can not be helpful..
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Well, I agree with you and believe me that most mods are actually enforcing the flaming when they see it. I have seen full threads stopped in their tracks prior to becoming flame wars.
Now, the search engine thing is kinda like a vicious cycle. All the new threads and posts started with commonly asked questions will only add more to the results coming out in the search engine. So, each time someone else uses the engine, he/she will get one million plus one posts. After being annoyed due to not finding the answer they were looking for after the first few posts they go through, they feel they need to make their voices heard and hence a new thread is born.... adding more stuff that the search engine will pull up each time someone looks for that particular subject.
Is there a way around this? Maybe...
Do we know it? Sure as hell not yet, but we have to keep on fighting...
F2504x4 said:
If you really want to get to the real reason behind this thread ...what caused him to make that post in the first place huh? do you know ? could it be that he asked a simple question and got the usual responses ? nawww
I was not going to drag that user into this thread like you have....I felt he has caught enough flak as it is...so what do you think will be gained by you dragging his name into this...?
Cause and effect...and his thread is not the only time someone got flamed for asking a simple question is it now ? EVEN AFTER they stated they had tried to use the search .
I wonder if you will answer these questions / or was your intent to attempt to turn the tables away from the real issue at hand ?
Btw that thread was closed with only one response from a mod..
As to the part i used....that is the main point of this thread incase you missed it..
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Unlike you, when I see a post like this I go straight to the persons profile page to see where they are coming from.
This was his sixth over all post, out of the five previous posts, he received immediate answers to 2 of his questions, one of his questions went unanswered in a 150 page thread and his other two questions were answered by Noonski ( mod ). Noonski answered his final question with a polite, " the question has already been answered in thread."
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Aah that Menu.
Since it has been noted before in the thread i won't anwser the qwuestion, but i will hint.
There is a mortscript in the folder \Windows\Startup.
Removing one of those files will get rid of the menu.
**** i answered the question anyway.
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At which point he switched from the wizard to the Kaiser and without any further posts, started this ranting ( no question, mind you, just ranting ) in the Kaiser Rom Dev forum.
The thread speaks for itself. What I am saying, is if you want to take the other members of this forum to task, then do it with your own thoughts and opinions. Or at least use credible examples of abuse,
You lose all credibility when you carefully edit, out of context, examples like you did, that really had nothing to do with your point. If you want to rant, stand up and rail away ( I'm not a real big fan of some of the moderation on this site either ) against the other members, but please note that this guy ( in the wrong forum ) came totally out of left field with this rant, so can you please find better examples, perhaps from people who have in fact been polite and courteous and have gotten flamed anyway for asking a simple question.
I wonder if you will answer these questions / or was your intent to attempt to turn the tables away from the real issue at hand ?
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My track record for helping people speaks for itself, you are more than welcome to review each and every one of my 980 posts, along with the 1300 posts I have over at htcwiki.com , for any flaming. While sometimes I use humor to chide people, I am one of the good guys.
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Unlike you, when I see a post like this I go straight to the persons profile page to see where they are coming from.
My track record for helping people speaks for itself, you are more than welcome to review each and every one of my 980 posts, along with the 1300 posts I have over at htcwiki.com , for any flaming. While sometimes I use humor to chide people, I am one of the good guys.
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Denco7,
I do not go to a persons profile, why not ? well i look at the post just like most users do....and part of the problem is that newbies will see flaming and will think that it is okay to do it, especially after if a mod has replied to the thread and says nothing about the flaming and or disrespect that went on , so this small group will think it is okay to post insults , non revelate comments, basically they think since a mod did not say anything, they feel it is okay to do it...
As to your track record I have seen you help out newbies with out really flaming them, so i do not consider you part of the overall problem..
but I do have issue with why you felt the need to bring this user and post up his info...when it was not necessary, I am still wondering why you did it..when this issue surrounds flamming those that state they used the search engine but with no luck...
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but I do have issue with why you felt the need to bring this user and post up his info...when it was not necessary, I am still wondering why you did it..when this issue surrounds flamming those that state they used the search engine but with no luck...
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Because many people read that thread and I thought your overall good message was getting over shadowed by your choice of examples. Unfortunately the person you used as the rallying point of your message was belligerent and antagonistic, which is why he was written off by the other members and eventually the mods. He was never wronged and his rant was baseless and unconstructive, I didn't want to see your message written off by a the poor example you chose as a rallying point.
He did not use the search engine because he had no question, only a rant in an inappropriate forum.
People are to lazy to search
While behaviour breeds behaviour. So starting a flame war is not great. IMO. I will just normally reply with something helpful especially when the search can be somewhat daunting on any site.
I think! here is a good example of someone clearly fabricating the truth about "I tried searching" when they clearly haven't.
Here is a quoted message from another forum...
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Originally Posted by infection0
I lay in bed so I turn the phone on its side a lot. Unfortunately this results in the phone rotating Opera so I can't see it. I tried searching but I can't find it... how do I disable Opera Auto rotate by registry?
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This is my reply.
Searching in google with the phrase "disable Opera Auto" yields many results.
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I even included the cab file and a link to a post.
Well, thats just me.
It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.
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Here is a link so that people can read the WHOLE thread, instead of the tiny bit you took out of context. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494625
The guy got flamed ( and I did not consider that flaming) because he posted a belligerent and antagonizing thread in the ( wrong ) rom development forum, not because he was a noob politely asking for help.
If you are going to take the members of this forum to task, do it with all the information please.
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thanks denco, i had already read that thread, but didn't know that was the thread in question, but i did have a feeling it might have been.
EDIT: WHAT DOES THIS THREAD HAVE TO DO WITH RULES OF SEX?
every one that can read will have a different opinion on what is considered flaming i guess. how about we just sticky to the first page of all forums a new thread entitled:
"i need help, ask your questions here if you don't know where to properly ask them"
then newbs & old but rarely on here members can go and ask there questions, and those of us that are extremely active can go into that thread if we choose to, to help out those people?
xda could even fix it to where if you post a new thread it would have to be viewed by a mod or admin and get approval before it showed up on a forum?
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. how about we just sticky to the first page of all forums a new thread entitled:
"i need help, ask your questions here if you don't know where to properly ask them"
then newbs & old but rarely on here members can go and ask there questions, and those of us that are extremely active can go into that thread if we choose to, to help out those people?
xda could even fix it to where if you post a new thread it would have to be viewed by a mod or admin and get approval before it showed up on a forum?
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Good idea, and instead of having mods approve the question , just set the thread to automatically purge the posts after 48 hrs..
I have received an 'infraction' from an XDA Moderator know as "Fallen Spartan".
As the thread is now edited by him, you can't see my post that he described "spam". The thread although is here.
The story is, Fallen Spartan had just asked everyone on the forum to stay on topic. Somebody then put a GIF (he quotes it was a PNG, he is wrong) of Michal Jackson eating popcorn at the movies right after his "stay on topic" post. I then replied "Yes, that's really staying on topic, thanks" and I received this notice.
Our regular Atrix forum mod is Mr. Clown. He has been a good mod so far and does what is necessary. Now we have this new guy, Fallen Spartan...
I want to know how to report him, as I believe he is abusing his XDA responsibility.
If you think I'm crazy, and he did the right thing, please say that also.
Thank you.
~BM~
PS: Here is the message I received from Fallen Spartan
Fallen Spartan said:
Dear BravoMotorola,
You have received an infraction at xda-developers.
Reason: Single Post or Low Level Spamming
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Going off topic when I asked everyone to stay on topic
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This infraction is worth 3 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.
All the best,
xda-developers
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=XDA-Developers:Administrators
http://www.xda-developers.com/contact/
http://www.xda-developers.com/contact/#abuse
maybe those might help?
I have noticed as a new user that some moderators appear to take their jobs a little bit too seriously on here. Little bit of power drives them mad!! Its crazy so it is.
I have looked at that thread, and it does appear to have members consistently taking the thread off topic.
That is a DEVELOPMENT thread, and I see a fair bit of persistent off topic. The thread was derailed persistently, and it's a very important thread for users of the Atrix. there were numerous requests by members to keep it clean of junk, and this didn't happen.
The correct course of action here is to not reply or continue the off-topic, and hit the report button at the top right of the posts.
Also, you will find Fallen Spartan is in fact a member of the MC, and thus more than capable of dealing with cases such as this.
An infraction is a warning or "reminder" not to do something again, and does not cause any restrictions or other consequences.
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I have looked at that thread, and it does appear to have members consistently taking the thread off topic.
That is a DEVELOPMENT thread, and I see a fair bit of persistent off topic. The thread was derailed persistently, and it's a very important thread for users of the Atrix. there were numerous requests by members to keep it clean of junk, and this didn't happen.
The correct course of action here is to not reply or continue the off-topic, and hit the report button at the top right of the posts.
Also, you will find Fallen Spartan is in fact a member of the MC, and thus more than capable of dealing with cases such as this.
An infraction is a warning or "reminder" not to do something again, and does not cause any restrictions or other consequences.
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here we are for to learn or enjoy with our devices, some times its funny, somtimes it´s serious, but i think here we aren´t for to discuss badly or to give the orders gifs to joke of some comments...
These situations must be cut and the MODERATOR is the manager of it, he chooses how to finish it
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I have noticed as a new user that some moderators appear to take their jobs a little bit too seriously on here. Little bit of power drives them mad!! Its crazy so it is.
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That sounds a bit too negative. I would like to add that this forum and site is fantastic. I have learned more about Android in a few weeks on this site than I would have trawling through manuals and websites. The work people put in to this site is commendable and that includes the moderators. Where else would you get such passion, innovation and good advice? So keep up the good work all and apologies if my comment sounded too negative.
The Mod asked people to stay ontopic. So you responded to an offtopic post with another offtopic post. You get told not to do this through an infraction and you whine about it? You sound like a 5 year old crying because someone else got some chocolate and your parents wont buy you some too. If you have a complaint go through the correct channels and try not to sound so self entitled. Live, Learn and move on.
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So keep up the good work all and apologies if my comment sounded too negative.
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under my opinion, your comment don´t sounds negative, and it´s the true... i think there isn´t any development forum better than XDA for develop or learn...
i´m spanish user, i talk a little bit english languaje and soo poor lol... and there are a lot of forums in spanish web but not so complete as this one, i believe that it does not cost anything to take care of this web and to follow the procedure of use..
Yes, you are correct, it was a gif file, not a jng. My mistake, but that had no relevance on me giving you an infraction
I understand your feelings about receiving an infraction and I know Mr Clown may let things slide, but you have to understand we received numerous complaints about that particular thread going off topic so I felt we (the mod team) needed to intervene. I cleaned the thread and left a gentle reminder for all to please abide by forum rules and keep thread on topic. Now the following 3-4 posts where the exact opposite of what I was hoping for. Yes, the first was in good nature, but it just encouraged everyone to do the exact opposite of what I said. No actions go without consequences and if I let those posts slide with no punishment other members would see this and also act inappropriately. Instead of you carrying on off topic and posting your post, all you had to do was report the post above you. But in turn your post also encouraged others to post off topic. I hope you understand my reasons. I do not go out actively dishing out infractions, but I will when I see it necessary. You only received a 3 point infraction which is not a permanent record against you, if is just a gentle reminder to abide by our forum rules and it will not be held against you if any further instances arose.
As for you reporting me, please do if you feel you have been harshly punished. Contact site admin mikechannon and he will look into my behaviour.
All mods have to abide by the same rules as you and everyone else.
Best regards
Rick
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The thread which I cleaned had over 15 pages of posts. After I cleaned it this number was reduced by half.....hence why we received so many complaints about thread in question and why I took action. Normally I would leave it to the FSM for that forum (Mr Clown), but unfortunately he wasn't online at the time
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I have noticed as a new user that some moderators appear to take their jobs a little bit too seriously on here. Little bit of power drives them mad!! Its crazy so it is.
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I'm sorry you feel this way. Let me know of any examples and I will investigate them
Rick
BravoMotorola said:
I have received an 'infraction' from an XDA Moderator know as "Fallen Spartan".
As the thread is now edited by him, you can't see my post that he described "spam". The thread although is here.
The story is, Fallen Spartan had just asked everyone on the forum to stay on topic. Somebody then put a GIF (he quotes it was a PNG, he is wrong) of Michal Jackson eating popcorn at the movies right after his "stay on topic" post. I then replied "Yes, that's really staying on topic, thanks" and I received this notice.
Our regular Atrix forum mod is Mr. Clown. He has been a good mod so far and does what is necessary. Now we have this new guy, Fallen Spartan...
I want to know how to report him, as I believe he is abusing his XDA responsibility.
If you think I'm crazy, and he did the right thing, please say that also.
Thank you.
~BM~
PS: Here is the message I received from Fallen Spartan
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As one of the site's administrators, I am supposed to have some sort of decorum in the way I approach people, but this "new guy" as you call him has been part of the moderating team in this site for a very long time. As some others said earlier in this thread, infractions are just a reminder that you are doing something that is against the rules. Not cooperating with moderators is against the rules. In this particular case, Rick did nothing more than to clean a development thread from clutter posts and specifically asked that posts on that thread be relevant to the conversation taking place. You decided to reply to an OT post with another OT post (I honestly don't care if it was a png, a gif, a jpeg, or whatever format of image you used, so please don't hang on to trivial things in the matter). You went ahead and added a post that was not related to the thread's main subject, effectively going against a direct request from a moderator. It is the equivalent of being pulled over by a cop for speeding and left off with a warning, and the first thing you do the moment you turn on your car is to go from 0-100 mph in 10 sec right in front of the cop. What did you think was gonna happen?
At this point in time, I will consider this matter closed. If you come across a real injustice by a moderator, please feel free to contact either mikechannon or me.
Thanks.
These forums would be unbearable and unusable without the mods and the good work they do. All i see are kids with entitlement issues who need to learn how to moderate themselves better.
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As one of the site's administrators, I am supposed to have some sort of decorum in the way I approach people, but this "new guy" as you call him has been part of the moderating team in this site for a very long time. As some others said earlier in this thread, infractions are just a reminder that you are doing something that is against the rules. Not cooperating with moderators is against the rules. In this particular case, Rick did nothing more than to clean a development thread from clutter posts and specifically asked that posts on that thread be relevant to the conversation taking place. You decided to reply to an OT post with another OT post (I honestly don't care if it was a png, a gif, a jpeg, or whatever format of image you used, so please don't hang on to trivial things in the matter). You went ahead and added a post that was not related to the thread's main subject, effectively going against a direct request from a moderator. It is the equivalent of being pulled over by a cop for speeding and left off with a warning, and the first thing you do the moment you turn on your car is to go from 0-100 mph in 10 sec right in front of the cop. What did you think was gonna happen?
At this point in time, I will consider this matter closed. If you come across a real injustice by a moderator, please feel free to contact either mikechannon or me.
Thanks.
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As I say "new guy" I mean "new guy" to the Atrix sub forums specifically. I see some people here saying what he did was his choice and it is fine that he did it, and a couple that think it was too much or thinks that a lot of the forum moderators are being more strict...
I know that this infraction is no big deal at all, I've known that all along. Regardless, I fell as I am being yelled at. And no matter a "big deal" or just a "warning"...I don't think it was at all necessary.
It doesn't seem to myself that I am making a big deal, but maybe I am and I just don't realize it. I won't report anyone. I don't want to try to over power anyone because I can't. And even if I could, now that I've calmed, I wouldn't. I don't want to make anyone mad, and I don't want to waste my time.
Maybe I just need to realize some moderators are more strict than others, so I should follow the rules closely at all times.
Thank you for your post, and please do close this thread.
~BM~
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Let me start this off by saying that I respect and love our mods for all their great work.
However, I have seen more and more in the past month or month.5 that many of the threads in this subforum have been closed. Some because they're no longer relevant for whatever purpose (which is a good thing), but other select threads are closed because they are off topic. The question I pose is why do some off-topic threads have to be closed?
Granted, this is a forum for developers and for phone support, applications, questions, etc, it is also a community. and because it's a community within a community (inspire users), I'd like to be able to have few off-topic conversations without them being closed by the mods. This is also the general subforum and therefore, I think it's appropriate if I want to start a slightly off-topic conversation with my fellow inspire users.
I understand the fact that sometimes off-topic threads can cause clutter, but I think thats most relevant in the case of multiple threads of the same topic.
disclaimer: conan, this post was not really inspired by you asking the other user to use the off-topic forum in the other spotify invite thread, but is a result of various threads i've seen closed recently. also, as i mentioned earlier, i would like to share the spotify invites with my fellow inspire users, not other random people that happen to also be browsing the off-topic forum.
lastly, i'd like to thank all of you amazing people for making my experience with the inspire so freaking awesome. this goes from the devs to the other people like me that respect and love the devs' work to the noobs without who we would be so peaceful and happy without having to tell them to search
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I appreciate what your saying about the fact that you'd rather offer these to another inspire user, not just the first random OT user to jump on your thread.
That said, there is an undeniable problem at the moment with clutter on the forums.
While your post is entirely genereous and well intentioned it is not strictly "on topic". I know this may seem petty but if we (the moderation team) are to bring the forums back into line the way they used to be, we need to be consistent in our actions.
You may not have asked for my opinion but I'll offer it anyway..
I would have just picked out a couple of members you'd like to donate these invites to and PM'd them, your two fav devs or someones who's helped you with a problem for example. Perhaps even your friendly forum moderator (just kidding).
I'm not gonna close your thread right now because like I said, I appreciate the intention behind it but let me know when they are claimed so I can close it and prevent it turning into a "Where can I get an invite??" thread...
Cheers.
I know this seems contrary to XDA's recent apparent policy of consolidating the number of forums rather than expanding, but maybe a community/off-topic board for various high-traffic devices would be in order.
I also have Spotify, but no invites, and would highly recommend you take this generous guy up on his offer.
conantroutman said:
I appreciate what your saying about the fact that you'd rather offer these to another inspire user, not just the first random OT user to jump on your thread.
That said, there is an undeniable problem at the moment with clutter on the forums.
While your post is entirely genereous and well intentioned it is not strictly "on topic". I know this may seem petty but if we (the moderation team) are to bring the forums back into line the way they used to be, we need to be consistent in our actions.
You may not have asked for my opinion but I'll offer it anyway..
I would have just picked out a couple of members you'd like to donate these invites to and PM'd them, your two fav devs or someones who's helped you with a problem for example. Perhaps even your friendly forum moderator (just kidding).
I'm not gonna close your thread right now because like I said, I appreciate the intention behind it but let me know when they are claimed so I can close it and prevent it turning into a "Where can I get an invite??" thread...
Cheers.
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whenever i rant, i like to hear opinions from everyone that i'm ranting about. so thanks for your opinion what do you think about having an inspire off-topic subforum? i feel that since the Q&A section popped up, the general section has been MUCH cleaner, so props for that! maybe this well help too, maybe not. oh well.
and also thanks for the advice about PM'ing people - i'll try that next time.
FYI - there's 1 invite left via the link in the OP
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whenever i rant, i like to hear opinions from everyone that i'm ranting about. so thanks for your opinion what do you think about having an inspire off-topic subforum? i feel that since the Q&A section popped up, the general section has been MUCH cleaner, so props for that! maybe this well help too, maybe not. oh well.
and also thanks for the advice about PM'ing people - i'll try that next time.
FYI - there's 1 invite left via the link in the OP
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Thanks, I was able to grab that final invite
cool glad i could help you guys out.
all set conan, thanks!!
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I know this seems contrary to XDA's recent apparent policy of consolidating the number of forums rather than expanding, but maybe a community/off-topic board for various high-traffic devices would be in order.
I also have Spotify, but no invites, and would highly recommend you take this generous guy up on his offer.
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Your the second person to bring this up. Are you guys conspiring against me
Initially I refused, as I've tried it elsewhere and it was a spectacular failure.
I will however, consult the oracle and see what he/she/it says....
@the op, gonna close this now if we are all done. Thanks for the rant
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
I was SO HAPPY when I read the post about "Operation Iron Fist", and SO DISAPPOINTED when I saw the enforcement in action.
Can we PLEASE start issuing 24-48 hour bans for people who break or disregard forum rules?
Example: The VERY FIRST POST in the dev section is titled "If you didn't create "it", then it doesn't belong in Development", and the rest of the post goes on to tell you WHY and WHERE YOU SHOULD POST if you don't meet the criteria for the dev section. A thread like "TEAM TOXIC on GALAXY S 4G" should not have had time to get 9 replies, and the OP should be banned for at least 24 hours for BLATANTLY disregarding the rules.
I saw a thread a couple of days back where a guy was trying to make a place where people could post their WidgetLocker mods/themes. The OP specifically asked people to NOT reply to the thread unless they were posting a theme, but instead they should PM the person with their question and request they update their post with the answer. This thread has AT LEAST 100 ***IDIOTS*** in it asking question after question, making request after request, despite the OPs wishes, and no mod has *ever* done anything about it.
I don't know if "Operation Iron Fist" was a joke or a serious endeavor, but from the looks of things, I'm gonna have to go with the former. People who disregard the rules at their whim -- first time offenders or not, unknowingly or not -- are EXACTLY what is driving devs away from XDA in mass numbers.
I guess what I'm trying to say, here, is; Could we have some ORDER around here? ENFORCE the rules, and start giving people a REASON to follow them...
"Damn, I should have read the rules before I posted that, now I'm banned for a day" -- That guy won't break that rule, again.
"Wow, I just got a warning from a mod because I didn't follow a rule. Oh well" - That guy will break the rules again -- probably including the one he JUST got a warning for.
I've moderated my fair share of forums in my day, and I have to say the **** I see people get away with on here is appalling.
Anyways, that's my two-cents on the subject. I'm pretty frustrated and fed up with having to dig through MOUNTAINS of bull**** to get little tidbits of useful information just because some selfish jackass can't be bothered with reading and following the rules.
Have to agree with you but it is a very big Forum so we cannot read everything that is posted so we need every ones help that way helping us is helping you in the long rum.
As far as the Punishment goes we do have a fair system that includes infractions and bans depending on the crime.
So please if you see anything Report the Post or drop me a pm
Thanks Guys
lufc said:
Have to agree with you but it is a very big Forum so we cannot read everything that is posted so we need every ones help that way helping us is helping you in the long rum.
As far as the Punishment goes we do have a fair system that includes infractions and bans depending on the crime.
So please if you see anything Report the Post or drop me a pm
Thanks Guys
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He does moderate the forum well but he is human n not god lol use him when u see things that shouldnt be
RaverX3X said:
He does moderate the forum well but he is human n not god lol use him when u see things that shouldnt be
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yeah, right on. I'll start being more pro-active in that arena
are you saying that I have bad forum etiquette?
jager555 said:
are you saying that I have bad forum etiquette?
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Well.. do you ?
NRGZ28 said:
Well.. do you ?
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lolol. only on mondays
No. I'm saying that people should be a little more considerate of others, and not clutter up potentially useful threads and forums with unnecessary stuff. I guess I'm also saying that the penalties for it should be a little more harsh and frequent, IMO.
I have to admit, though, I haven't been making much use of the report button, myself, so I haven't been doing my part, either. That changes here
I do think that people should post threads in their proper forum and that mods are doing a good job, you have to remember that they do have lives outside of xda, they can't be here 24/7.
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Yeah, sometimes I kinda lose sight of stuff like that and get a little wound. Thanks for the check, guys
Still pretty frustrated about all the inconsiderate people, though *shrug*
Hey guys,
I finally got me my first Nexus device. So i loaded up Purity Rom on it and i have tried a bunch of Kernels but i couldnt find one that i like. My question to you guys would be what Kernel would you guys recommend? My priority is battery life and stability. Phone is already insanely fast.
they dont allow these kinds of threads on xda. youre just gonna get a list of all the kernels, and everyone will think that the kernel that are using is the best http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477889
EVO-lution said:
Hey guys,
I finally got me my first Nexus device. So i loaded up Purity Rom on it and i have tried a bunch of Kernels but i couldnt find one that i like. My question to you guys would be what Kernel would you guys recommend? My priority is battery life and stability. Phone is already insanely fast.
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Plain and simple. No further explanation needed
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These threads/posts will be deleted promptly and without warning. They have a history of causing problems due to trolls, and fanboys, along with various troublemakers, and therefore are no longer allowed. Regardless of that, there is really no way to judge whether or not a particular piece of work is better than another because it's all relative to begin with. If you want to know what piece of work is better for you, install something and try it out for a while. If you don't like it, try something else. Our Developers work hard to provide us their contributions, free of charge. Please show them the respect they deserve by trying something out and giving them your feedback.
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Get the most out of XDA!!
How to make a good THREAD, POST, QUESTION or POLL
Why you get short/one word answers! (The Long Answer)
How to give constructive feedback to developers
How To Logcat
GPLv2 tips for developers
Getting a moderator's help
And as always...
Thank you, and have a great day!
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