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Report Moderator Abusing XDA Privileges

I have received an 'infraction' from an XDA Moderator know as "Fallen Spartan".
As the thread is now edited by him, you can't see my post that he described "spam". The thread although is here.
The story is, Fallen Spartan had just asked everyone on the forum to stay on topic. Somebody then put a GIF (he quotes it was a PNG, he is wrong) of Michal Jackson eating popcorn at the movies right after his "stay on topic" post. I then replied "Yes, that's really staying on topic, thanks" and I received this notice.
Our regular Atrix forum mod is Mr. Clown. He has been a good mod so far and does what is necessary. Now we have this new guy, Fallen Spartan...
I want to know how to report him, as I believe he is abusing his XDA responsibility.
If you think I'm crazy, and he did the right thing, please say that also.
Thank you.
~BM~
PS: Here is the message I received from Fallen Spartan
Fallen Spartan said:
Dear BravoMotorola,
You have received an infraction at xda-developers.
Reason: Single Post or Low Level Spamming
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Going off topic when I asked everyone to stay on topic
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This infraction is worth 3 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.
All the best,
xda-developers
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=XDA-Developers:Administrators
http://www.xda-developers.com/contact/
http://www.xda-developers.com/contact/#abuse
maybe those might help?

I have noticed as a new user that some moderators appear to take their jobs a little bit too seriously on here. Little bit of power drives them mad!! Its crazy so it is.

I have looked at that thread, and it does appear to have members consistently taking the thread off topic.
That is a DEVELOPMENT thread, and I see a fair bit of persistent off topic. The thread was derailed persistently, and it's a very important thread for users of the Atrix. there were numerous requests by members to keep it clean of junk, and this didn't happen.
The correct course of action here is to not reply or continue the off-topic, and hit the report button at the top right of the posts.
Also, you will find Fallen Spartan is in fact a member of the MC, and thus more than capable of dealing with cases such as this.
An infraction is a warning or "reminder" not to do something again, and does not cause any restrictions or other consequences.

pulser_g2 said:
I have looked at that thread, and it does appear to have members consistently taking the thread off topic.
That is a DEVELOPMENT thread, and I see a fair bit of persistent off topic. The thread was derailed persistently, and it's a very important thread for users of the Atrix. there were numerous requests by members to keep it clean of junk, and this didn't happen.
The correct course of action here is to not reply or continue the off-topic, and hit the report button at the top right of the posts.
Also, you will find Fallen Spartan is in fact a member of the MC, and thus more than capable of dealing with cases such as this.
An infraction is a warning or "reminder" not to do something again, and does not cause any restrictions or other consequences.
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here we are for to learn or enjoy with our devices, some times its funny, somtimes it´s serious, but i think here we aren´t for to discuss badly or to give the orders gifs to joke of some comments...
These situations must be cut and the MODERATOR is the manager of it, he chooses how to finish it

sohanlon07 said:
I have noticed as a new user that some moderators appear to take their jobs a little bit too seriously on here. Little bit of power drives them mad!! Its crazy so it is.
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That sounds a bit too negative. I would like to add that this forum and site is fantastic. I have learned more about Android in a few weeks on this site than I would have trawling through manuals and websites. The work people put in to this site is commendable and that includes the moderators. Where else would you get such passion, innovation and good advice? So keep up the good work all and apologies if my comment sounded too negative.

The Mod asked people to stay ontopic. So you responded to an offtopic post with another offtopic post. You get told not to do this through an infraction and you whine about it? You sound like a 5 year old crying because someone else got some chocolate and your parents wont buy you some too. If you have a complaint go through the correct channels and try not to sound so self entitled. Live, Learn and move on.

sohanlon07 said:
So keep up the good work all and apologies if my comment sounded too negative.
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under my opinion, your comment don´t sounds negative, and it´s the true... i think there isn´t any development forum better than XDA for develop or learn...
i´m spanish user, i talk a little bit english languaje and soo poor lol... and there are a lot of forums in spanish web but not so complete as this one, i believe that it does not cost anything to take care of this web and to follow the procedure of use..

Yes, you are correct, it was a gif file, not a jng. My mistake, but that had no relevance on me giving you an infraction
I understand your feelings about receiving an infraction and I know Mr Clown may let things slide, but you have to understand we received numerous complaints about that particular thread going off topic so I felt we (the mod team) needed to intervene. I cleaned the thread and left a gentle reminder for all to please abide by forum rules and keep thread on topic. Now the following 3-4 posts where the exact opposite of what I was hoping for. Yes, the first was in good nature, but it just encouraged everyone to do the exact opposite of what I said. No actions go without consequences and if I let those posts slide with no punishment other members would see this and also act inappropriately. Instead of you carrying on off topic and posting your post, all you had to do was report the post above you. But in turn your post also encouraged others to post off topic. I hope you understand my reasons. I do not go out actively dishing out infractions, but I will when I see it necessary. You only received a 3 point infraction which is not a permanent record against you, if is just a gentle reminder to abide by our forum rules and it will not be held against you if any further instances arose.
As for you reporting me, please do if you feel you have been harshly punished. Contact site admin mikechannon and he will look into my behaviour.
All mods have to abide by the same rules as you and everyone else.
Best regards
Rick
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The thread which I cleaned had over 15 pages of posts. After I cleaned it this number was reduced by half.....hence why we received so many complaints about thread in question and why I took action. Normally I would leave it to the FSM for that forum (Mr Clown), but unfortunately he wasn't online at the time
sohanlon07 said:
I have noticed as a new user that some moderators appear to take their jobs a little bit too seriously on here. Little bit of power drives them mad!! Its crazy so it is.
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I'm sorry you feel this way. Let me know of any examples and I will investigate them
Rick

BravoMotorola said:
I have received an 'infraction' from an XDA Moderator know as "Fallen Spartan".
As the thread is now edited by him, you can't see my post that he described "spam". The thread although is here.
The story is, Fallen Spartan had just asked everyone on the forum to stay on topic. Somebody then put a GIF (he quotes it was a PNG, he is wrong) of Michal Jackson eating popcorn at the movies right after his "stay on topic" post. I then replied "Yes, that's really staying on topic, thanks" and I received this notice.
Our regular Atrix forum mod is Mr. Clown. He has been a good mod so far and does what is necessary. Now we have this new guy, Fallen Spartan...
I want to know how to report him, as I believe he is abusing his XDA responsibility.
If you think I'm crazy, and he did the right thing, please say that also.
Thank you.
~BM~
PS: Here is the message I received from Fallen Spartan
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As one of the site's administrators, I am supposed to have some sort of decorum in the way I approach people, but this "new guy" as you call him has been part of the moderating team in this site for a very long time. As some others said earlier in this thread, infractions are just a reminder that you are doing something that is against the rules. Not cooperating with moderators is against the rules. In this particular case, Rick did nothing more than to clean a development thread from clutter posts and specifically asked that posts on that thread be relevant to the conversation taking place. You decided to reply to an OT post with another OT post (I honestly don't care if it was a png, a gif, a jpeg, or whatever format of image you used, so please don't hang on to trivial things in the matter). You went ahead and added a post that was not related to the thread's main subject, effectively going against a direct request from a moderator. It is the equivalent of being pulled over by a cop for speeding and left off with a warning, and the first thing you do the moment you turn on your car is to go from 0-100 mph in 10 sec right in front of the cop. What did you think was gonna happen?
At this point in time, I will consider this matter closed. If you come across a real injustice by a moderator, please feel free to contact either mikechannon or me.
Thanks.

These forums would be unbearable and unusable without the mods and the good work they do. All i see are kids with entitlement issues who need to learn how to moderate themselves better.

egzthunder1 said:
As one of the site's administrators, I am supposed to have some sort of decorum in the way I approach people, but this "new guy" as you call him has been part of the moderating team in this site for a very long time. As some others said earlier in this thread, infractions are just a reminder that you are doing something that is against the rules. Not cooperating with moderators is against the rules. In this particular case, Rick did nothing more than to clean a development thread from clutter posts and specifically asked that posts on that thread be relevant to the conversation taking place. You decided to reply to an OT post with another OT post (I honestly don't care if it was a png, a gif, a jpeg, or whatever format of image you used, so please don't hang on to trivial things in the matter). You went ahead and added a post that was not related to the thread's main subject, effectively going against a direct request from a moderator. It is the equivalent of being pulled over by a cop for speeding and left off with a warning, and the first thing you do the moment you turn on your car is to go from 0-100 mph in 10 sec right in front of the cop. What did you think was gonna happen?
At this point in time, I will consider this matter closed. If you come across a real injustice by a moderator, please feel free to contact either mikechannon or me.
Thanks.
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As I say "new guy" I mean "new guy" to the Atrix sub forums specifically. I see some people here saying what he did was his choice and it is fine that he did it, and a couple that think it was too much or thinks that a lot of the forum moderators are being more strict...
I know that this infraction is no big deal at all, I've known that all along. Regardless, I fell as I am being yelled at. And no matter a "big deal" or just a "warning"...I don't think it was at all necessary.
It doesn't seem to myself that I am making a big deal, but maybe I am and I just don't realize it. I won't report anyone. I don't want to try to over power anyone because I can't. And even if I could, now that I've calmed, I wouldn't. I don't want to make anyone mad, and I don't want to waste my time.
Maybe I just need to realize some moderators are more strict than others, so I should follow the rules closely at all times.
Thank you for your post, and please do close this thread.
~BM~

Thread closed by OP request
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Etiquette, this forum, and YOU

If your only plausible contribution to this forum is to tell people to post in the correct thread, DON'T.
If you are not a Dev, or a mod, and you get the urge to tell someone they posted in the incorrect thread, DON'T (those groups are MORE than capable of doing it themselves).
If you have the urge to do anything but be helpful and kind to your fellow XDA members, and cannot control yourself, FIND A NEW HAPPY HOME.
If people were HALF as LIGHTNING fast to help as they are to chastise someone for posting in the wrong damned place this would be a MUCH better place to get help.
I can pretty sure guarantee no one would be hesitant to ask for it, LIKE THEY ARE NOW.
/rant off

The forum is broken, it's not showing you as a moderator!

There. I fixed the flaws in your post.
I do agree though. Don't post that someone's thread is in the wrong forum, it doesn't help in any way. Just let us mods know, so we can move them.
Thanks for pointing this out Morkai Almandragon, people should be aware of this.

I agree. People should be nicer. I've seen plenty get angry at noobs or just people not paying attention. At the same time, I have also seen people jump on someone, accusing them of being hateful to a noob when they really weren't (person was just overreacting such as here). Niceness goes down both sides of the aisle.
In short, think about what the person was thinking before you reply to them if you think they are in fault about something. I can save lots of ranting/off topic derailing.

I completly agree.
I come from the x10 forums and the behavior over there has become absolutely disgusting over the past few months.
Its really starting to get annoying, every second thread becomes a flame war.
People need to remember what XDA-Developers is about, because last time I checked, it was about discussing mobile devices and expanding their capabilities, not about using terrible language and abusing others. What is this, an iPhone forum? (Sarcasm)
(Sorry to stick my nose in another devices forum where its not wanted, I just felt the need to share)
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I am not, nor did I know I had to be a mod to post what should be common sense.
Do you disagree with what I said Mike?
Quite frankly I am sick of watching dev's leave, and watching new people not ask questions because they fear someone will chew them out for miss stepping.
If someoen posts to the dev section on accadent it takes about 2 minutes for someone to post that they were not in the right forum... how long is the average wait to get help?
Maybe I have the world back wards, but it seems to me we should be quicker to help than to chastise.

Morkai Almandragon said:
I am not, nor did I know I had to be a mod to post what should be common sense.
Do you disagree with what I said Mike?
Quite frankly I am sick of watching dev's leave, and watching new people not ask questions because they fear someone will chew them out for miss stepping.
If someoen posts to the dev section on accadent it takes about 2 minutes for someone to post that they were not in the right forum... how long is the average wait to get help?
Maybe I have the world back wards, but it seems to me we should be quicker to help than to chastise.
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Settle down , he was just making light at your post being edited for language I believe. He made no judgement on what you said. No need to jump on a user and do what you are saying people shouldn't do (being mean).
edit: okay maybe it was directed at you as seen ↓↓ below ↓↓ (unicode ↓↓ arrows are awesome btw ) but yeah you are being a bit hot headed and just encouraging people to want to attack you by the way you choose your replies + language.
Your words would have far more impact without calling out single members and leaving out the curse words

Morkai Almandragon said:
I am not, nor did I know I had to be a mod to post what should be common sense.
Do you disagree with what I said Mike?
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It's off topic, and doesn't belong in this forum. It's hypocritical for you to correct people, by telling them not to correct others.

mike.s said:
It's off topic, and doesn't belong in this forum. It's hypocritical for you to correct people, by telling them not to correct others.
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Mike you are missing the point completely.
I am not posting this in a thread that someone ELSE posted asking for help.
I am not making someone who came here looking for help FEEL LIKE CRAP.
I am not cluttering up a post that may very likely get found in a search by someone else with the same problem as the original poster.
While a post by someone with a problem may very well be in the wrong place, or may very well be EASILY answered with a search, when the only replies are chastising them for such, future people with the same problem have the joy of sifting through every post just like it, where people asked the same questions they have, only to have never been answered.
It is one thing to answer someones thread with a helpful comment, and mention they should check the forum rules, or post in the right place, or explain the search function. This sort of thing is helpful and productive within the community.
What I complain about in the first post is not helpful and in fact causes our community to erode.
I do not really see anything hypocritical here at all.

NeoS2007 said:
There. I fixed the flaws in your post.
I do agree though. Don't post that someone's thread is in the wrong forum, it doesn't help in any way. Just let us mods know, so we can move them.
Thanks for pointing this out Morkai Almandragon, people should be aware of this.
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Yep. Can't say how many times I've mentioned that in threads... I don't think this thread needs to go any further.

[Rant] Where is the moderator??

So this forum has been all but derailed by rude and impulsive posters who flame thread after thread if they dont get their way. Never mine they contribute almost nothing to the dev scene. I saw the other day yet another talented dev is on the way out because of these few brats. Any way to contact the mod or add additonal moderators to weed out the trolls so the other members dont lose out?
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Mod Edit: I see that this is only your second post in XDA and it is already a rant.
I suggest you first learn how to report posts and then rant regarding moderators...

ns4smi said:
So this forum has been all but derailed by rude and impulsive posters who flame thread after thread if they dont get their way. Never mine they contribute almost nothing to the dev scene. I saw the other day yet another talented dev is on the way out because of these few brats. Any way to contact the mod or add additonal moderators to weed out the trolls so the other members dont lose out?
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Well said. Seems like we have people new to Android/ smartphones, who feel entitled to answers that they can find themselves if the just read! And if they don't get answered within minutes, they call a ROM junk or jump the Dev. They should just go back to Iphone and remain a zombie!

Jep56 said:
Well said. Seems like we have people new to Android/ smartphones, who feel entitled to answers that they can find themselves if the just read! And if they don't get answered within minutes, they call a ROM junk or jump the Dev. They should just go back to Iphone and remain a zombie!
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Totally agree with above, seems like a lot of tempers flared and people jumped ship. This phone still rocks and I hope support continues for it.

@OP: Looks like you are kinda late with this observation. We already lost quite a few devs. Moderators on this forum are pretty much more strict when compared to captivate forums, and this still keeps happening.

Digital_Biped said:
This phone still rocks and I hope support continues for it.
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Agreed. This is still a great phone, and I hope that more folks will stick around to figure stuff out vs. waiting for a few devs to do everything for them. We have a few devs still looking out for us, and we should appreciate them rather than gripe at them. I plan to stick around for awhile, and will just ignore and stay out of any drama. Once we get source from AT&T Gingerbread, development should pick up some.
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jscott30 said:
Agreed. This is still a great phone, and I hope that more folks will stick around to figure stuff out vs. waiting for a few devs to do everything for them. We have a few devs still looking out for us, and we should appreciate them rather than gripe at them. I plan to stick around for awhile, and will just ignore and stay out of any drama. Once we get source from AT&T Gingerbread, development should pick up some.
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I wish I could support more than I am now. Code doesn't scare me but I am at NO level to help with development (the devs almost seem like magicians at times) but in terms of theme-ing or anything visual that would need to be created I would be happy to help (buttons, icons, backgrounds, etc) because that is in my field.

diablo009 said:
@OP: Looks like you are kinda late with this observation. We already lost quite a few devs. Moderators on this forum are pretty much more strict when compared to captivate forums, and this still keeps happening.
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+1
It seems when we get new devs, ppl flood the threads with a "gimme" attitude and when they don't get their way they ***** and moan. I've been following here since the phone came out and it's amazing how hard ppl bite the hand that feeds them...
There are more noobs here than we know what to do with and they are constantly snapping at the devs, constantly posting repeat questions and asking stupid ass questions in ROM threads. (usually answered in the OP) No wonder all of our useful members are upgrading and leaving. I'm hoping the moderators can step in if this gets any worse.

Report bad posts. They can't fix what they can't see, and it's not feasible to be babysitting 100 threads. broncogr will clean up the baddies, but the community needs to police itself. Don't respond to bad posts, just report them and move on.

I had my own post closed down and i had to find a moderator to do it. It didn't take him long to close it once he got my pm.
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tmease1 said:
I had my own post closed down and i had to find a moderator to do it. It didn't take him either once he got my pm.
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Easier way would be to report the post you want to take down. That would get quicker attention than an IM.
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xIC-MACIx said:
constantly posting repeat questions and asking stupid ass questions in ROM threads. (usually answered in the OP).
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Mention about searching to them, and here are the common retorts we get back:
1. Too many pages on ROMs to browse through
2. Its easier to ask and get answer than browse through
3. Why don't you just answer me than increase post count by telling me to search
What they fail to realize is that Q&A thread of a ROM is created specifically to address the ROM's issues, and searching there is the first thing to be done.
Maybe we should get a warning tab that shows warning levels given to any user. After certain number of warning, its the ban hammer on them for a short while that would restrict them from posting anything.

Instead of ranting and taking matters into your own hands why dont you just report the offending posts and they will be taken care of.
Unless you believe that mods are going to read any and all threads and any and all posts on a daily basis.
I try to keep the forum clean, move posts to the correct subforum and answer quickly to any reported posts and pm's.
But if you dont report it I will not be able to see it....
Cheers

Issues

This is generally a concern from a friend and I will not be responding to any post or pms from this. (from anyone)
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I have recently noticed that numerous developers have had their pages deleted because of in proper layout.
1st of all this makes sense that it should be in a the proper layout, but.......... big but here, does that mean delete it before they even get a warning. most developers are doing this on their own time and have their own fans to keep happy. Therefore because a simple source or gitcode is not in place right away, doesn't mean it should be deleted right away. Warn the people first, kinda makes the moderators look like their power hungry and also make people not want to be here. There's a fine line between being moderated or just an _____.
2nd not everyone is going to see the rules right away or may easiely forget to add something to it. This does not give it a right for deletion. Also, note there are many other developers that people have noticed that are no way in these rules and are still up? so makes u curious.....
Anyway I'm not bashing anyone on this, I just feel that the admin should start filtering some moderators for that bad ones. Every forum has at least one dud and it completely ruins the site.
As I said before, I will not be responding to anything from this post or pms. If I get banned fro simply posting a concern and not bashing,it just proves this even more. Or if the page gets deleted.
I think it will be good for the forum if you can see some other peoples views on this issue.
Best of luck with everything, with this hopefully positive feedback.
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(This was for my friend who was looking for a nexus 7 thread for hours to only find out it was deleted, not my own words to a degree)

Bludra said:
This is generally a concern from a friend and I will not be responding to any post or pms from this. (from anyone)
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I have recently noticed that numerous developers have had their pages deleted because of in proper layout.
1st of all this makes sense that it should be in a the proper layout, but.......... big but here, does that mean delete it before they even get a warning. most developers are doing this on their own time and have their own fans to keep happy. Therefore because a simple source or gitcode is not in place right away, doesn't mean it should be deleted right away. Warn the people first, kinda makes the moderators look like their power hungry and also make people not want to be here. There's a fine line between being moderated or just an _____.
2nd not everyone is going to see the rules right away or may easiely forget to add something to it. This does not give it a right for deletion. Also, note there are many other developers that people have noticed that are no way in these rules and are still up? so makes u curious.....
Anyway I'm not bashing anyone on this, I just feel that the admin should start filtering some moderators for that bad ones. Every forum has at least one dud and it completely ruins the site.
As I said before, I will not be responding to anything from this post or pms. If I get banned fro simply posting a concern and not bashing,it just proves this even more. Or if the page gets deleted.
I think it will be good for the forum if you can see some other peoples views on this issue.
Best of luck with everything, with this hopefully positive feedback.
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(This was for my friend who was looking for a nexus 7 thread for hours to only find out it was deleted, not my own words to a degree)
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Threads can be removed from site until the OP is updated to work with the rules. Just because users cant see it doesnt mean it was deleted. There is always a warning given before a thread is deleted. As for keeping fans happy. Boy are you in the wrong place. This is no concern here as this is a Developers site made for and by developers to share work with each other.
For 2. There is no excuse for this. Everyone sees the rules when they join.

zelendel said:
Threads can be removed from site until the OP is updated to work with the rules. Just because users cant see it doesnt mean it was deleted. There is always a warning given before a thread is deleted. As for keeping fans happy. Boy are you in the wrong place. This is no concern here as this is a Developers site made for and by developers to share work with each other.
For 2. There is no excuse for this. Everyone sees the rules when they join.
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^^^^^^^This^^^^^^:good::good:
Bludra said:
This is generally a concern from a friend and I will not be responding to any post or pms from this. (from anyone) Best of luck with everything, with this hopefully positive feedback. "
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Sir if there is an issue/or wish to compliment any Staff of XDA, there are measures in place to help in yours or anyone else's issues:
http://www.xda-developers.com/contact/
Thank you Sir.

Bludra said:
This is generally a concern from a friend and I will not be responding to any post or pms from this. (from anyone)
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I have recently noticed that numerous developers have had their pages deleted because of in proper layout.
1st of all this makes sense that it should be in a the proper layout, but.......... big but here, does that mean delete it before they even get a warning. most developers are doing this on their own time and have their own fans to keep happy. Therefore because a simple source or gitcode is not in place right away, doesn't mean it should be deleted right away. Warn the people first, kinda makes the moderators look like their power hungry and also make people not want to be here. There's a fine line between being moderated or just an _____.
2nd not everyone is going to see the rules right away or may easiely forget to add something to it. This does not give it a right for deletion. Also, note there are many other developers that people have noticed that are no way in these rules and are still up? so makes u curious.....
Anyway I'm not bashing anyone on this, I just feel that the admin should start filtering some moderators for that bad ones. Every forum has at least one dud and it completely ruins the site.
As I said before, I will not be responding to anything from this post or pms. If I get banned fro simply posting a concern and not bashing,it just proves this even more. Or if the page gets deleted.
I think it will be good for the forum if you can see some other peoples views on this issue.
Best of luck with everything, with this hopefully positive feedback.
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(This was for my friend who was looking for a nexus 7 thread for hours to only find out it was deleted, not my own words to a degree)
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There's also a fine line between coming to this site to contribute and thinking you or your "friend" are above the rules!
Rules are rules and if a moderator thinks a thread should be unapproved or deleted then guess what?....there's most likely a reason for this
Also if you're a developer, an RD then you sure as hell better know the rules by now........I mean, they're clearly posted for everyone to see...lol
Oh and about fans, that shouldn't come into play! Whether you're a lone developer just starting out or have a mob of fanboys.....rules are rules! Just because this developer has 10000000000000 kernels or roms or whatever doesn't mean he should get special treatment. AGAIN......rules are rules and if a developer is not held to those rules then how are you going to enforce them on a junior member?
Another thing, from my experience if I have an issue with a moderator.......contacting the moderator committee is the best route! Going off on the moderator or starting a thread complaining about this or that isn't always best.......it will only lead to more threads being closed down and infractions/bans passed around...lol
JUST MY TWO CENTS.......

Bludra said:
This is generally a concern from a friend and I will not be responding to any post or pms from this. (from anyone)
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I have recently noticed that numerous developers have had their pages deleted because of in proper layout.
1st of all this makes sense that it should be in a the proper layout, but.......... big but here, does that mean delete it before they even get a warning. most developers are doing this on their own time and have their own fans to keep happy. Therefore because a simple source or gitcode is not in place right away, doesn't mean it should be deleted right away. Warn the people first, kinda makes the moderators look like their power hungry and also make people not want to be here. There's a fine line between being moderated or just an _____.
2nd not everyone is going to see the rules right away or may easiely forget to add something to it. This does not give it a right for deletion. Also, note there are many other developers that people have noticed that are no way in these rules and are still up? so makes u curious.....
Anyway I'm not bashing anyone on this, I just feel that the admin should start filtering some moderators for that bad ones. Every forum has at least one dud and it completely ruins the site.
As I said before, I will not be responding to anything from this post or pms. If I get banned fro simply posting a concern and not bashing,it just proves this even more. Or if the page gets deleted.
I think it will be good for the forum if you can see some other peoples views on this issue.
Best of luck with everything, with this hopefully positive feedback.
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(This was for my friend who was looking for a nexus 7 thread for hours to only find out it was deleted, not my own words to a degree)
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Pretty sure this was involving me since its being talked about in that g+ thread I was tagged in a have read.
This "rd" was sent a pm and explained why it was unapproved and couldve easily sent me a pm in response saying opps if U reappove I'll fix it real quick. Instead there was an insulting pm responded with and multiple bashing threads on site and off site yet the thread was still reapproved.
Forgetting something in an op is one thing. But blatantly doing it cause you don't have time or be cause you believe you are good enough to not have to comply with rules is another thing.
The nexus 4 section had multiple kernel devs get the same pm and everyone else complied with little to no fuss and went on their way.
Also this is a developers site so the whole fan thing means absolutely nothing here.
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Papa Smurf151 said:
Pretty sure this was involving me since its being talked about in that g+ thread I was tagged in a have read.
This "rd" was sent a pm and explained why it was unapproved and couldve easily sent me a pm in response saying opps if U reappove I'll fix it real quick. Instead there was an insulting pm responded with and multiple bashing threads on site and off site yet the thread was still reapproved.
Forgetting something in an op is one thing. But blatantly doing it cause you don't have time or be cause you believe you are good enough to not have to comply with rules is another thing.
The nexus 4 section had multiple kernel devs get the same pm and everyone else complied with little to no fuss and went on their way.
Also this is a developers site so the whole fan thing means absolutely nothing here.
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Maybe I need to spend some more time in that section as I decide if I am getting the Nexus or not.
Now As this as run its course, I am gonna close this up.
Oh and on a side note. Had it been me, a ban would have been issued.
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Man this forum is already starting to look worse than the G3 threads, where it's full of the same stuff, over and over, everyone needs to keep their mouths shut and quit asking about the fix to this phone and let the Dev's do their damn job. Keep in mind that they DON'T have to do a damn thing for no one. It isn't like you bought the phone and it came with a leaflet stating, "oh, btw, to do any mods on your phone, you will get service here" sheeez...all anyone is doing is pissing off the people we need to help.
Let the bashing begin, I can take it. This is my opinion only!

This is the "general" section.
As long as it relates to the phone in some regard people can say what they want.
In before the lock.
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sptrsn said:
This is the "general" section.
As long as it relates to the phone in some regard people can say what they want.
In before the lock.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda premium
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Thanks, I am just getting frustrated, that you start reading some threads, and most of them are getting hijacked with the same ole stuff, put it in one area, and delete it from the rest.
As far as banning me, so be it, by the time I return the forum might just be cleaned. I am NOT the only person that has already thought of this. If it would make everyone happy, I reported myself for this thread to be deleted.

TheAxman said:
Man this forum is already starting to look worse than the G3 threads, where it's full of the same stuff, over and over, everyone needs to keep their mouths shut and quit asking about the fix to this phone and let the Dev's do their damn job. Keep in mind that they DON'T have to do a damn thing for no one. It isn't like you bought the phone and it came with a leaflet stating, "oh, btw, to do any mods on your phone, you will get service here" sheeez...all anyone is doing is pissing off the people we need to help.
Let the bashing begin, I can take it. This is my opinion only!
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this is the internet, what are you sincerely expecting?

Thread closed...If anyone wants opinions, go log on to social media for them. This here is a development site, contribute to that or log off - do not clutter threads with this stuff.
To clarify a couple other points, the general section of any thread is NOT for opinions like this, so it is not okay. Nor is creating this type of flotsam and jetsum and then self-reporting it while being self righteous in the process. When you accepted membership here, you agreed to post by the rules, and this thread is a great example of what not to do.
Oh yeah, always help a new user, and if you are confronted with disrespectful users, report the posts, and do not feed trolls or trollers.... Moderators are standing by to assist.