Man this forum is already starting to look worse than the G3 threads, where it's full of the same stuff, over and over, everyone needs to keep their mouths shut and quit asking about the fix to this phone and let the Dev's do their damn job. Keep in mind that they DON'T have to do a damn thing for no one. It isn't like you bought the phone and it came with a leaflet stating, "oh, btw, to do any mods on your phone, you will get service here" sheeez...all anyone is doing is pissing off the people we need to help.
Let the bashing begin, I can take it. This is my opinion only!
This is the "general" section.
As long as it relates to the phone in some regard people can say what they want.
In before the lock.
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This is the "general" section.
As long as it relates to the phone in some regard people can say what they want.
In before the lock.
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Thanks, I am just getting frustrated, that you start reading some threads, and most of them are getting hijacked with the same ole stuff, put it in one area, and delete it from the rest.
As far as banning me, so be it, by the time I return the forum might just be cleaned. I am NOT the only person that has already thought of this. If it would make everyone happy, I reported myself for this thread to be deleted.
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Man this forum is already starting to look worse than the G3 threads, where it's full of the same stuff, over and over, everyone needs to keep their mouths shut and quit asking about the fix to this phone and let the Dev's do their damn job. Keep in mind that they DON'T have to do a damn thing for no one. It isn't like you bought the phone and it came with a leaflet stating, "oh, btw, to do any mods on your phone, you will get service here" sheeez...all anyone is doing is pissing off the people we need to help.
Let the bashing begin, I can take it. This is my opinion only!
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this is the internet, what are you sincerely expecting?
Thread closed...If anyone wants opinions, go log on to social media for them. This here is a development site, contribute to that or log off - do not clutter threads with this stuff.
To clarify a couple other points, the general section of any thread is NOT for opinions like this, so it is not okay. Nor is creating this type of flotsam and jetsum and then self-reporting it while being self righteous in the process. When you accepted membership here, you agreed to post by the rules, and this thread is a great example of what not to do.
Oh yeah, always help a new user, and if you are confronted with disrespectful users, report the posts, and do not feed trolls or trollers.... Moderators are standing by to assist.
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I have a new TILT from ATT, US. I was hoping someone could provide advise on a lighter ROM (one without the ATT crap everywhere) that I could use. Also, if I do so, can I revert back to the stock AT if I need to?
Three Words:
Wiki
Sticky
Search.
Welcome to XDA.
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Hey Jimmy McGee...
Why did you close my thread on ROM suggestions? I am so new to this and was referred over to this forum by the owner of another large site that handles other phones. You said: Three words...WIKI, Search, Read or something to that extent...Why? Al I was looking for advice on what I should choose, not instructions on how to install or anything really technical. Instead, why not try helping rather than closing threads...
maybe because there are just so many threads that ask/suggest the exact same thing?
i guess you must find out for yourself.
every rom is different, nobody can tell you if its great or less great. its the same for buying a new car. everybody tells you different things.
think about it, and try some roms. take your time
if you read his response you will answer your own question.
I waited 6+ months before even posting on this site coming from Howard forums strictly because of the name of this site. You could at least respect when a thread is closed to put some thought into it. You should also try to education yourself a little before creating more spam threads. The mods have to sift through enough of it as it is. Where you came from and who sent you is irrelevant.
Thanks da_mafkeez...
that's all I wanted was a suggestion. Isn't that the point of forums? As for the other weenies, I will so try to be a better boy...
Because everyday someone gets their new phone and asks the same questions, its a pain for the mods and members to have to tell people the same things over and over. Check out the wiki and stuff at the top of the page it will give you just about every answer you need. When youve read through it all and still cant find your answer then try starting a thread. It wont drive people as crazy around here.
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Why did you close my thread on ROM suggestions? I am so new to this and was referred over to this forum by the owner of another large site that handles other phones. You said: Three words...WIKI, Search, Read or something to that extent...Why? Al I was looking for advice on what I should choose, not instructions on how to install or anything really technical. Instead, why not try helping rather than closing threads...
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There is a neat little function in the site called "private message" for something like this. Please do not disrespect the mods and and forum by creating a new thread after yours has been closed.
Ya know what...
if there were as many members responding to my requests for help as there are these, it'd be great...
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if there were as many members responding to my requests for help as there are these, it'd be great...
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then we will be just encouraging this kind of behavior
Here's a little friendly advice...
The reason that so many people are reading and replying to this thread is because you are having a go a one of the forum Mods. The Mods on this site are respected by all other members; they uphold the Rules of this site (found here) and ensure the forums are clean and easy to read by everyone:
From the Rule Book said:
1. Check if something hasn't been asked before
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If you have problems with a Moderator or the Rules, bring it up with the Mod in question, or another moderator or even one of the Site Admins.
Don't feel insulted by the fact that your thread was closed, and don't make it personal (Rule 8 ). It's not the end of the world.
Dave
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if there were as many members responding to my requests for help as there are these, it'd be great...
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As i've stated many many time in the forum to noobs who complain that we don't answer their questions...If you asked your questions in the correct manner, and put it in the right place, then you will find the people on this site to be very helpful to you. If you insist that you are above the rules, and choose to disrespect the forum, the mods, and other members then you will not find it to be a welcoming place at all. There are not many rules here, but those who have the knowledge that you seek expect those few rules to be abided by, and as another use said, if we answer your questions when you intentionally didn't put it in the rigth place it only reinforces the belief that the rules don't matter.
chill up dude - we are all one big crazy family here
closing a thread is a tough decision to be made but some times a mod need to take it for the good of everybody
maybe next time if you want to ask specific question or a individual advice (try using Personal Messages), in couple of occasions i sent personal messages to mods asking advice/opinion and they replied me promptly but if i had posted my queries as thread i am sure they will close 'em up...
back to your question - there is no best answer to what is best rom because i will say 50% is personal prefrence and 50% technical details so nobody will know what is best for you expect one person - YOU - cuz u can judge them for ur use and ur prefrence
best wishes bro
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Why did you close my thread on ROM suggestions? I am so new to this and was referred over to this forum by the owner of another large site that handles other phones. You said: Three words...WIKI, Search, Read or something to that extent...Why? Al I was looking for advice on what I should choose, not instructions on how to install or anything really technical. Instead, why not try helping rather than closing threads...
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I think I feel the hammer coming on!
Does that mean it's "hammer time".
Oh crap, did I just say that. I need sleep
Dave
Dude, AllTheWay has shot me down twice & moved one of my posts. Am I crying about it, NO. He did that because I didn't follow protocol. It was a learning experience for me & probably some other people who saw it happen. I'm not pissed off at him for it. I apologized & thanked him for teaching me something. Your thread was probably shot down because someone else has already asked the same thing at some point. These guys have been here longer than us & know a hell of alot more than we do. If you're still reading this at this point, I should feel pretty inportant for keeping your attention this long. I wouldn't @#$% with the Mods, Admins or Seniors on this site. They know what they are doing, that's why they are where they are!
Well, terrapin69, If I offended you. I'm sorry.
I hope you stick around this is a great place.
Now to answer your question, Why did I close the thread?
I think others have covered it. I respect your opinion. But please respect mine.
It wasn't meant to be curt, but more to be efficient.
Look at the Sticky Roll Up Thread. Read The Wiki, and Of Course Always use search.
Just note, Asking "what Rom is the best" is so subjective that there is no answer.
I have the reasons why. If you want to know most of them, just check out the Rules here.
I appreciate your eagerness. The Kaiser is a great device.
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I think I feel the hammer coming on!
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That was actually my first thought when I clicked on this, that somewhere I was going to see AllTheWay's Hammer graphic somewhere in here before long.
To answer terrapin's original question: ROM selection is entirely a matter of personal choice, and there are so many options that the only way to really tell which is best for you is to browse through the ROM threads, read the features of the ROM, look at the screenshots, and if you like what you see, flash it. If you don't like that ROM after flashing, find another one.
Zelendel has been doing an awesome job keeping this place clean of noobs posting questions without searching in the general sub. 12 hours without him and this place looks like crap. Stop it. You are not special. You are a noob who needs to watch the noob video again by azrionoch. Search, follow the rules, post in the correct forum.
And to all the people who actually answer the questions, stop it. You are just as bad. You are an enabler. To the people who get mad at the members who point out that a thread was made without searching and/or posted in the wrong section, stop it. You are the worst. Not only do you not care about keeping this place clean, but you are perfectly fine with it getting messier.
Guys, just keep the forums clean. It makes this place nicer, keeps the mods happier, keeps members happier with the new rp system, and the keeps the devs happier.
I'm all for keeping this place clean but you need to understand that not all people are capable of following simple rules. Topics will continue to be created in the wrong forum regardless of how many "you're doing it wrong" speeches you type up (which, ironically, create clutter themselves). Let the mod do his job and keep your mouth shut if you have nothing helpful to say.
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moorent said:
I'm all for keeping this place clean but you need to understand that not all people are capable of following simple rules. Topics will continue to be created in the wrong forum regardless of how many "you're doing it wrong" speeches you type up (which, ironically, create clutter themselves). Let the mod do his job and keep your mouth shut if you have nothing helpful to say.
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Good words from a member whose only contribution to the forum was a question thread about wallpaper in of all places, the captivate general sub section. Thank you.
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Good words from a member whose only contribution to the forum was a question thread about wallpaper in of all places, the captivate general sub section. Thank you.
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Lol... I try not to enable too much, but it is annoying sometimes especially with the "what is the best rom" threads and the "i can't follow instructions so hold my hand and spoon feed me" threads
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Thanks for this thread, we truly appreciate . We definitely need members like you also to help us clean the forums. I'm a currently active moderator here also. I will need that if you see something like this shoot me a PM so either I or any other moderator can move, delete or close these threads.
Thanks again,
I was SO HAPPY when I read the post about "Operation Iron Fist", and SO DISAPPOINTED when I saw the enforcement in action.
Can we PLEASE start issuing 24-48 hour bans for people who break or disregard forum rules?
Example: The VERY FIRST POST in the dev section is titled "If you didn't create "it", then it doesn't belong in Development", and the rest of the post goes on to tell you WHY and WHERE YOU SHOULD POST if you don't meet the criteria for the dev section. A thread like "TEAM TOXIC on GALAXY S 4G" should not have had time to get 9 replies, and the OP should be banned for at least 24 hours for BLATANTLY disregarding the rules.
I saw a thread a couple of days back where a guy was trying to make a place where people could post their WidgetLocker mods/themes. The OP specifically asked people to NOT reply to the thread unless they were posting a theme, but instead they should PM the person with their question and request they update their post with the answer. This thread has AT LEAST 100 ***IDIOTS*** in it asking question after question, making request after request, despite the OPs wishes, and no mod has *ever* done anything about it.
I don't know if "Operation Iron Fist" was a joke or a serious endeavor, but from the looks of things, I'm gonna have to go with the former. People who disregard the rules at their whim -- first time offenders or not, unknowingly or not -- are EXACTLY what is driving devs away from XDA in mass numbers.
I guess what I'm trying to say, here, is; Could we have some ORDER around here? ENFORCE the rules, and start giving people a REASON to follow them...
"Damn, I should have read the rules before I posted that, now I'm banned for a day" -- That guy won't break that rule, again.
"Wow, I just got a warning from a mod because I didn't follow a rule. Oh well" - That guy will break the rules again -- probably including the one he JUST got a warning for.
I've moderated my fair share of forums in my day, and I have to say the **** I see people get away with on here is appalling.
Anyways, that's my two-cents on the subject. I'm pretty frustrated and fed up with having to dig through MOUNTAINS of bull**** to get little tidbits of useful information just because some selfish jackass can't be bothered with reading and following the rules.
Have to agree with you but it is a very big Forum so we cannot read everything that is posted so we need every ones help that way helping us is helping you in the long rum.
As far as the Punishment goes we do have a fair system that includes infractions and bans depending on the crime.
So please if you see anything Report the Post or drop me a pm
Thanks Guys
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Have to agree with you but it is a very big Forum so we cannot read everything that is posted so we need every ones help that way helping us is helping you in the long rum.
As far as the Punishment goes we do have a fair system that includes infractions and bans depending on the crime.
So please if you see anything Report the Post or drop me a pm
Thanks Guys
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He does moderate the forum well but he is human n not god lol use him when u see things that shouldnt be
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He does moderate the forum well but he is human n not god lol use him when u see things that shouldnt be
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yeah, right on. I'll start being more pro-active in that arena
are you saying that I have bad forum etiquette?
jager555 said:
are you saying that I have bad forum etiquette?
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Well.. do you ?
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Well.. do you ?
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lolol. only on mondays
No. I'm saying that people should be a little more considerate of others, and not clutter up potentially useful threads and forums with unnecessary stuff. I guess I'm also saying that the penalties for it should be a little more harsh and frequent, IMO.
I have to admit, though, I haven't been making much use of the report button, myself, so I haven't been doing my part, either. That changes here
I do think that people should post threads in their proper forum and that mods are doing a good job, you have to remember that they do have lives outside of xda, they can't be here 24/7.
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Yeah, sometimes I kinda lose sight of stuff like that and get a little wound. Thanks for the check, guys
Still pretty frustrated about all the inconsiderate people, though *shrug*
So this forum has been all but derailed by rude and impulsive posters who flame thread after thread if they dont get their way. Never mine they contribute almost nothing to the dev scene. I saw the other day yet another talented dev is on the way out because of these few brats. Any way to contact the mod or add additonal moderators to weed out the trolls so the other members dont lose out?
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Mod Edit: I see that this is only your second post in XDA and it is already a rant.
I suggest you first learn how to report posts and then rant regarding moderators...
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So this forum has been all but derailed by rude and impulsive posters who flame thread after thread if they dont get their way. Never mine they contribute almost nothing to the dev scene. I saw the other day yet another talented dev is on the way out because of these few brats. Any way to contact the mod or add additonal moderators to weed out the trolls so the other members dont lose out?
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Well said. Seems like we have people new to Android/ smartphones, who feel entitled to answers that they can find themselves if the just read! And if they don't get answered within minutes, they call a ROM junk or jump the Dev. They should just go back to Iphone and remain a zombie!
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Well said. Seems like we have people new to Android/ smartphones, who feel entitled to answers that they can find themselves if the just read! And if they don't get answered within minutes, they call a ROM junk or jump the Dev. They should just go back to Iphone and remain a zombie!
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Totally agree with above, seems like a lot of tempers flared and people jumped ship. This phone still rocks and I hope support continues for it.
@OP: Looks like you are kinda late with this observation. We already lost quite a few devs. Moderators on this forum are pretty much more strict when compared to captivate forums, and this still keeps happening.
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This phone still rocks and I hope support continues for it.
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Agreed. This is still a great phone, and I hope that more folks will stick around to figure stuff out vs. waiting for a few devs to do everything for them. We have a few devs still looking out for us, and we should appreciate them rather than gripe at them. I plan to stick around for awhile, and will just ignore and stay out of any drama. Once we get source from AT&T Gingerbread, development should pick up some.
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Agreed. This is still a great phone, and I hope that more folks will stick around to figure stuff out vs. waiting for a few devs to do everything for them. We have a few devs still looking out for us, and we should appreciate them rather than gripe at them. I plan to stick around for awhile, and will just ignore and stay out of any drama. Once we get source from AT&T Gingerbread, development should pick up some.
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I wish I could support more than I am now. Code doesn't scare me but I am at NO level to help with development (the devs almost seem like magicians at times) but in terms of theme-ing or anything visual that would need to be created I would be happy to help (buttons, icons, backgrounds, etc) because that is in my field.
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@OP: Looks like you are kinda late with this observation. We already lost quite a few devs. Moderators on this forum are pretty much more strict when compared to captivate forums, and this still keeps happening.
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It seems when we get new devs, ppl flood the threads with a "gimme" attitude and when they don't get their way they ***** and moan. I've been following here since the phone came out and it's amazing how hard ppl bite the hand that feeds them...
There are more noobs here than we know what to do with and they are constantly snapping at the devs, constantly posting repeat questions and asking stupid ass questions in ROM threads. (usually answered in the OP) No wonder all of our useful members are upgrading and leaving. I'm hoping the moderators can step in if this gets any worse.
Report bad posts. They can't fix what they can't see, and it's not feasible to be babysitting 100 threads. broncogr will clean up the baddies, but the community needs to police itself. Don't respond to bad posts, just report them and move on.
I had my own post closed down and i had to find a moderator to do it. It didn't take him long to close it once he got my pm.
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I had my own post closed down and i had to find a moderator to do it. It didn't take him either once he got my pm.
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Easier way would be to report the post you want to take down. That would get quicker attention than an IM.
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constantly posting repeat questions and asking stupid ass questions in ROM threads. (usually answered in the OP).
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Mention about searching to them, and here are the common retorts we get back:
1. Too many pages on ROMs to browse through
2. Its easier to ask and get answer than browse through
3. Why don't you just answer me than increase post count by telling me to search
What they fail to realize is that Q&A thread of a ROM is created specifically to address the ROM's issues, and searching there is the first thing to be done.
Maybe we should get a warning tab that shows warning levels given to any user. After certain number of warning, its the ban hammer on them for a short while that would restrict them from posting anything.
Instead of ranting and taking matters into your own hands why dont you just report the offending posts and they will be taken care of.
Unless you believe that mods are going to read any and all threads and any and all posts on a daily basis.
I try to keep the forum clean, move posts to the correct subforum and answer quickly to any reported posts and pm's.
But if you dont report it I will not be able to see it....
Cheers
Hey! So recently I have seen a rather large influx of people doing dumb things without first searching! So far I've encountered a couple people who are upset they bricked their phones, even though a warning was put out to not fkz back from ICS. I have also seen many people posting in the dev section just asking for help. YOU SHOULD ONLY POST IN THE DEV SECTION ONLY IF YOU MADE SOMETHING (ie. a ROM). Please don't post there asking for help or posting screenshots. Sorry but this has been pissing me of a little lately.
PLEASE try to keep this forum clean, and make the job for our mods easier!
From now on, we need to just start directing people to my sticky in these situations, and not post any help until they follow the rules.
Here is my sticky:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778853
Then report them to the MODS, I have been told by both of our mods that they are on the developers sides and try to helps us out with any of these type of things, since this is a site really for developers and a way for us to get our work out to the public, so to speak.
Thanks! I shall do that. It's just been pissing me off that everyday new threads would come up about people bricking their phones. And they would pop up in the dev section too!
Agreed. :thumbup:
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Thanks! I shall do that. It's just been pissing me off that everyday new threads would come up about people bricking their phones. And they would pop up in the dev section too!
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Yeah I feel your pain, and that is why I posted the sticky, I was seeing these things even before the bricks started. It has gotten so out of hand here, even with all the "when is ICS coming" new threads 2 or three a day. Heck now we have the leak and it not good enough, so they brick their phone even after all the warnings... I am starting to think that no one reads anything on here, and just posts a new thread for whatever they want to.
Jim, et. al.,
Since I have been traveling like a freaking gypsy for work these last two weeks, with another two more ahead of me, I was unable to PM all the Senior Members here with what you and I discussed last week. In lieu of all that, I'll take it upon myself to do what I had intended last week right here.
Because people (n00bs, primarily) can't search or post questions or concerns in threads that have already been established for certain topics -ICS leak topics mostly, I'm calling all Members and Senior Members together for this:
If we continue to see a handful of new threads made for topics already in discussion, we need ONLY to reply with the link to Jim's sticky, as well as the existing thread(s) that relate to new 'extraneous' ones. Nothing else, no replies to entertain any quandaries or concerns.
This was my concern with the leak coning out, and it has been substantiated with several threads posted that are clogging up this forum. I cannot stress enough the imperativeness of SEARCHING BEFORE POSTING NEW THREADS, and have already made reports to the moderators of people not following the rules. I'm doing that with the risk of looking like a total prick, but also with the hopes that people here will get the picture.
So, if we all join forces and take these threads with the same approach, it might just work. Albeit, there will always be those who will insist on being dumber than a bag if smashed a**holes, we still may get lucky and see some improvement...
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I'll be relying with links to jims sticky, jrws noob thread, and farshads do not flash fxz post. That should cover it all lol.
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I hate to seem like we're all "ganging up" on these guys, but it really has gotten way out of hand. So, n00bs and Junior Members (and even Members) if/when you read this, understand where we are all coming from. This isn't "my" forum or "your" forum, its "our" forum, and there are rules in place for everyone's benefit. Since the ICS leak, we've gotten more than a little frustrated with people wildly avoiding heeded caution, and squawking about the forum with a desperate cry for help by posting new (needless) threads. You'll get the very same degree of help if you post correctly, and avoid being set on fire...
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Hey! So recently I have seen a rather large influx of people doing dumb things without first searching! So far I've encountered a couple people who are upset they bricked their phones, even though a warning was put out to not fkz back from ICS. I have also seen many people posting in the dev section just asking for help. YOU SHOULD ONLY POST IN THE DEV SECTION ONLY IF YOU MADE SOMETHING (ie. a ROM). Please don't post there asking for help or posting screenshots. Sorry but this has been pissing me of a little lately.
PLEASE try to keep this forum clean, and make the job for our mods easier!
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This has been going on for awhile now with people posting in the wrong section or people asking repeated questions. People just don't get it or they just don't care. It seems to be getting worse. I don't think there is going to be a real fix on this. I hope this thread will help though.
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