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q. why cant i post to a threat that i have questions about because im new?
a. this forum sucks, thats why. full of stuck up douches who create garbage and then yell at people to" keep reading". thats because they have no clue how to fix the crap they put out.... yeah you magnus.

trekrfc said:
q. why cant i post to a threat that i have questions about because im new?
a. this forum sucks, thats why. full of stuck up douches who create garbage and then yell at people to" keep reading". thats because they have no clue how to fix the crap they put out.... yeah you magnus.
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They do know how to fix it. Chances are, you didn't read the OP, or there are obvious compatibility issues. Common sense goes a long way.
Assholes like you that contribute nothing, don't look for an answer, and then ***** to someone that has put days, weeks, months worth of work into something, then give it away for free, are the ones that pollute this forum.
You hate the forum? Fine. Go away, we don't need you here. Grow up, learn to do a search & spend more than five minutes on it, then come here and post that question if you can't find the answer elsewhere.
This is a great forum, and while some members are assholes, most are very helpful. However, if you come off immature & hostile, you're going to be met with hostility.
Oh, and the real answer to your original question... they don't want people not knowing what they're doing, posting in the Dev section. You should try answering some questions in Q&A and help people out for a change.

I have to agree! I have been reading the developers section for months, and read peoples questions and actually have the answers!!!! I DO read, but still it tells me I have to post ten times before I can post in the developers section!! What a load of crap!! How can I contribute if I have my hands tied???

gogogu said:
I have to agree! I have been reading the developers section for months, and read peoples questions and actually have the answers!!!! I DO read, but still it tells me I have to post ten times before I can post in the developers section!! What a load of crap!! How can I contribute if I have my hands tied???
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Come here, to the Q&A section and answer these questions. Answer the questions in the Q&A section for your device. You can post there. That's what I did, and still do. I'm just tired of people complaining about the rule, when instead they could be doing something about it instead of spamming the forums and whining.

Thread closed. I'm sorry to say but you have got the whole idea of XDA-Developers and it's ethos wrong. Maybe if you'd have searched and/or read more about this forum you would not post this flame thread.
Please don't repeat it. If you think this forum is garbage you are free to stop visiting it.

Programmer Developer with years of expierence treated like a kid

I like many others experienced developers do not appreciate going thru the reg process and then being told I cannot post except in the kiddy forums. (Q$A or General). I have read xda forums for the better part of 4 months and don’t feel like being baby sat!
Here is my 1st post only 9 more I have no general questions as I got past that YEARS AGO. I will play nice I will play nice ...
I was going to post some VALID comments and was blocked.
Sorry for rant but... I wont go on.

updated to AT$T 2.2 and now on quest to root
I have to get this bloatware off this phone one way or another. I cant stand paying for a phone and then being unable to get the junkware off.
Has anyone had success with rooting the stock ATT 2.2 rom. The update.zip files dont seem to work anymore.
I am just posting this here so I can get my post count up so I can participate in the dev forums.
Later.
Mark

It only takes 8 posts for the admins to approve your account for full membership, and getting to post in development.
8 posts. wait an hour or less. done!
8 posts isnt hard and isnt treating anyone like a child.

thank u for the info, TRusselo ...

I agree, the post minimum should only apply when starting a thread in dev, not fair to apply it to replys. If you need to reply in a thread then more power to you. If your wish is to start a thread in dev to ask a question then I will inform you now to post it in q&a as it will be moved there

Well why not just be in the Q&A forum and help people out by answering their questions? You help people and you get your post count up.

No offense to the OP, but that's probably one of the dumbest posts I've seen here. It doesn't matter if you're a programmer/developer/what-have-you, just because you spend 4 months lurking and don't contribute a single post doesn't give you any kind of authoritative measure as to how the posting should be govern regardless of your literacy on the matter of programming/hacking.

The more educated tend to be the most antidisestablishmentarists there are.... The Rule for 10 posts really is more dealing with the noobs that have no idea the difference between a smartphone and a smart-ass... Ergo the rule, just post 10 times and move on.
Love Android ......... can't wait until the next flash !!!!!

Well,I for one don't like the whole 10 posts idea.Why?There are people who can contribute from their first moment here,without having a single post,and there are others who have hundreds or even thousands of posts,but cannot help anybody,not even themselves.Number of posts doesn't make you a noob,nor does it un-noob you if you have it in you.

tolis626 said:
Well,I for one don't like the whole 10 posts idea.Why?There are people who can contribute from their first moment here,without having a single post,and there are others who have hundreds or even thousands of posts,but cannot help anybody,not even themselves.Number of posts doesn't make you a noob,nor does it un-noob you if you have it in you.
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It's also to curb spambots with their single-post filled with links. Any other questions?

lude219 said:
It's also to curb spambots with their single-post filled with links. Any other questions?
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that one makes sense ...

lude219 said:
No offense to the OP, but that's probably one of the dumbest posts I've seen here. It doesn't matter if you're a programmer/developer/what-have-you, just because you spend 4 months lurking and don't contribute a single post doesn't give you any kind of authoritative measure as to how the posting should be govern regardless of your literacy on the matter of programming/hacking.
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No lurking at all. I spent four months researching and doing things in android w/o posting a bunch of stupid questions for things that have been already answered. I am sorry if your feelings were hurt.
All that rule accomplished was that I didn’t post an observation that I saw while trying to root the stock 2.2 ATT ROM. But since I couldn’t post I guess I will just let others figure it out on their own.
It is not so much my literacy on programming / hacking it is the assumption that I am a spammer and or a stupid kid that won’t use search to find answers to questions that have already been asked.
The one post per every 5 minutes works for most spammers.
IN ADDITION if you didn’t get the obvious smiley connotations that it WAS MOSTLY SARCASM and a way to get startedd posting in the kid section. The end of the world didn’t come because I couldn’t post on an Android forum LOL I don’t have to say more, SARCASM!! Get it???

Well, removed the posts which are not meant for this section ( maybe off topic section ! )
And yes, if you have achieved all that you claim to have - as in the developer etc etc you could be kind enough and go over to the question answer 10 simple questions and bingo ! Post in the dev section, that would be appreciated way more than a rant.
But, your call.
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Strange board rules?!

Why is it that I have to wait ten postings long to ask a question concerning a problem with a ROM I'm using? You want me really to do some generic blabla to wait till I'm "qualified enough" to post on a thread in the developement section? Oh and in the meantime I'll go to a public phone instead of using my mobile that is not working due to a problem from one of the ROM's on here. That is not very user friendly to say the least.
And eight more postings to go........

n0me said:
Why is it that I have to wait ten postings long to ask a question concerning a problem with a ROM I'm using? You want me really to do some generic blabla to wait till I'm "qualified enough" to post on a thread in the developement section? Oh and in the meantime I'll go to a public phone instead of using my mobile that is not working due to a problem from one of the ROM's on here. That is not very user friendly to say the least.
And eight more postings to go........
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Well I guess you should have done better research huh. All the roms on XDA are betas as there is no promise it will work. Also making 10 valid posts is not that hard. Any pointless post count bumping will be deleted.
This is a developers forum
Not a users forum

zelendel said:
Well I guess you should have done better research huh. All the roms on XDA are betas as there is no promise it will work. Also making 10 valid posts is not that hard. Any pointless post count bumping will be deleted.
This is a developers forum
Not a users forum
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Dear Zelendel,
this has nothing to do with missing research. I've been using ROM's from the xda-community for some time now and never had any unsolvable problems so far. Therefore I had no reason to post. Right now i'm encountering a strange behaviour with the newest update of the ROM I'm using. And since there is no solution described in the thread of this ROM so far, I wanted to contribute something to make the developer aware of this problem and to better the ROM. Where else would user comments be more needed than in the developement section? What would be development without user feedback? Nothing, I'd say. And if you don't think so, you can delete half of the comments there since they're often not saying more than "oh, wifi support is missing, why is that", "can you integrate that feature from...", etc. And someone with 20 postings can write as much **** there as someone with five postings, and they often do. So the number of postings is not necessarily a quality indicator. It's just delaying feedback and in my case the recovery of my phone.
This not ment to insult anyone on this board, it's great to have it, it's a source of great software and information. It's just sometimes you can't relate to specific board rules and it's frustrating because it's hindering you getting problems solved.
Happy holidays...

Did you try sending a PM to the Dev? Or maybe one of the regular rom users? This is normally alot faster way to get a reply. Most issues have been come across at least once before.

n0me said:
Why is it that I have to wait ten postings long to ask a question concerning a problem with a ROM I'm using? You want me really to do some generic blabla to wait till I'm "qualified enough" to post on a thread in the developement section? Oh and in the meantime I'll go to a public phone instead of using my mobile that is not working due to a problem from one of the ROM's on here. That is not very user friendly to say the least.
And eight more postings to go........
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Simple!
Its to cut down on the n00b crap that pollutes the dev forum. As already stated this is a dev forum not a support forum.
99.9% of things you could ask or post have already been posted so look and read before attempting to post.
Post your issue here and the rom you have issue with and Ill try and help, although its extremely likely all I will do is use search or read forum and get answer for you, which is what you should be doing really.
And before you said "I've already looked" etc, You obviously don't do it properly as this very topic you have created has already been created and discussed AT LENGTH!!

n0me said:
Dear Zelendel,
this has nothing to do with missing research. I've been using ROM's from the xda-community for some time now and never had any unsolvable problems so far. Therefore I had no reason to post. Right now i'm encountering a strange behaviour with the newest update of the ROM I'm using. And since there is no solution described in the thread of this ROM so far, I wanted to contribute something to make the developer aware of this problem and to better the ROM. Where else would user comments be more needed than in the developement section? What would be development without user feedback? Nothing, I'd say. And if you don't think so, you can delete half of the comments there since they're often not saying more than "oh, wifi support is missing, why is that", "can you integrate that feature from...", etc. And someone with 20 postings can write as much **** there as someone with five postings, and they often do. So the number of postings is not necessarily a quality indicator. It's just delaying feedback and in my case the recovery of my phone.
This not ment to insult anyone on this board, it's great to have it, it's a source of great software and information. It's just sometimes you can't relate to specific board rules and it's frustrating because it's hindering you getting problems solved.
Happy holidays...
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You may have been using ROM's for a long time, but obviously not XDA. The 10 post rule is to prevent spam from getting into the truly Development Forums. The moderators can deal with the spam in the general, but it has no place in the thread for a ROM. If you go through the pages of the general forum, you can find numerous spam posts. I'm not talking about a pointless post, I mean true spam...advertisements and such. These are posted by people with 1 or 2 posts. So instead of complaining, go to the off-topic section, knock out 10 posts in 30 seconds and you are good to go. It is protection FOR you, not AGAINST you.

I have been registered here for more then 2 years, I read and read and have questions from time to time. but either say screw the answer (if I cant find it) or look elsewhere.
I understand WHY the rule is a min. post count. But apparently there was something wrong with the site two years ago and the "Action Required to Activate Membership for xda-developers" email had problems. Without activating account you cant even see your profile OR post in the designated areas.... annoying to say the least since you dont even know that you didnt get an email you were suppose to.
So after resending the activation link just now on a hunch (and getting another error /shakes head) I am able to post and see my profile in full I believe, since the email came through despite the error on the board. Not to mention why I have 27 posts yet had to activate the account again!
Maybe the post count rule isnt the solution to the spam problem as it hinders the very development its meant to protect. Maybe with such a vast team to oversee things that harsher penalties for such spam posting could be implemented and the current post count rule be abandoned. But what do I know it seems the site fouled up in a unique way for my account....

zelendel said:
Did you try sending a PM to the Dev? Or maybe one of the regular rom users? This is normally alot faster way to get a reply. Most issues have been come across at least once before.
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I did send a private message to the developer and I have to see what comes out of this. But in my opinion it is a lot more molesting to write a p.m. than to post in a thread. Also I thought it might help others with the same problem to have it discussed in public.

lowandbehold said:
So instead of complaining, go to the off-topic section, knock out 10 posts in 30 seconds and you are good to go. It is protection FOR you, not AGAINST you.
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I tried exactly this, trying to post ten comments in some trash forum or a very very old thread and guess what! You have to wait five minutes between postings as a "newbie" and even better the post was deleted just a few minutes later, resetting my post count to zero again. Seems like moderators take their job very seriously at 3 a.m. cet So no chance this way.

TheATHEiST said:
Simple!
Its to cut down on the n00b crap that pollutes the dev forum. As already stated this is a dev forum not a support forum.
99.9% of things you could ask or post have already been posted so look and read before attempting to post.
Post your issue here and the rom you have issue with and Ill try and help, although its extremely likely all I will do is use search or read forum and get answer for you, which is what you should be doing really.
And before you said "I've already looked" etc, You obviously don't do it properly as this very topic you have created has already been created and discussed AT LENGTH!!
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It seems you have more insight in the spam topic than I do. And it's good people look after spam. But sometimes these rules are just getting in the way of solving things.
As I pointed out before developers are nothing without the community and the feedback of the users. I guess most devs are not programming ROM after ROM just for the sake of it or giving it to their ten close friends, but to spread their good work to the community for everyone to benefit from it. And how many of the registered users on here are really devs? Is it more than 5 to 10%?
Posting my ROM-specific issue in the general section? How fast will moderators remind me that this is the wrong place and the posting will be removed or moved to the appropriate section. So maybe I will do this and get my post to the thread it belongs to without having ten postings after all
And yes I searched the thread all the way after the release of the recent ROM version to see if someone had the same problem. There were some hints people had, but no soultion was offered. So to boost problem solution and for the sake of solidarity with my fellow users I wanted to post there.
But maybe I will just save my time and instead of posting here any longer and just rebuild the phone from step one with a new ROM. Seems faster than to get help here.
Happy holidays...

n0me said:
It seems you have more insight in the spam topic than I do. And it's good people look after spam. But sometimes these rules are just getting in the way of solving things.
As I pointed out before developers are nothing without the community and the feedback of the users. I guess most devs are not programming ROM after ROM just for the sake of it or giving it to their ten close friends, but to spread their good work to the community for everyone to benefit from it. And how many of the registered users on here are really devs? Is it more than 5 to 10%?
Posting my ROM-specific issue in the general section? How fast will moderators remind me that this is the wrong place and the posting will be removed or moved to the appropriate section. So maybe I will do this and get my post to the thread it belongs to without having ten postings after all
And yes I searched the thread all the way after the release of the recent ROM version to see if someone had the same problem. There were some hints people had, but no soultion was offered. So to boost problem solution and for the sake of solidarity with my fellow users I wanted to post there.
But maybe I will just save my time and instead of posting here any longer and just rebuild the phone from step one with a new ROM. Seems faster than to get help here.
Happy holidays...
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Many moon's ago before implementation of post rules there wasn't just a small amount of spam and most of our time was dishing out bans and removing threads so the implementation is to help users and XDA it may be a gripe to new users but it saves work load in the long run.
Besides 10 posts without being SPAM is easily achievable.
Sent from the valley of the shadows....

@ OP
No need to create tipple posts, You have a "multi-quote" button or an "edit" button.
The 10 post rule has absolutely nothing to do with advertising spam, Its simply to do with not allowing new users to post questions etc since any questions they have will have already been asked and people was getting sick of seeing the same ****. The limit is there to force users to sit back and have a good read instead of jumping in and posting as soon as they reach hurdle.
Also do not listen to the person who told you to post knock out 10 posts in 30 seconds as they will just get pruned by mods after users report you.

TheATHEiST said:
@ OP
No need to create tipple posts, You have a "multi-quote" button or an "edit" button.
The 10 post rule has absolutely nothing to do with advertising spam, Its simply to do with not allowing new users to post questions etc since any questions they have will have already been asked and people was getting sick of seeing the same ****. The limit is there to force users to sit back and have a good read instead of jumping in and posting as soon as they reach hurdle.
Also do not listen to the person who told you to post knock out 10 posts in 30 seconds as they will just get pruned by mods after users report you.
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HAHAHA, so post 10 posts and you are not a noob. Get real buddy. And if you re read my post you will see that I said to do it in THE OFF TOPIC SECTION! I highly doubt he will get reported to a mod for posting in the "3 Word Story" thread. Grow up.

lowandbehold said:
HAHAHA, so post 10 posts and you are not a noob. Get real buddy. And if you re read my post you will see that I said to do it in THE OFF TOPIC SECTION! I highly doubt he will get reported to a mod for posting in the "3 Word Story" thread. Grow up.
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Firstly, When did I say or infer that posting 10 posts and you're not a n00b??
I said that the 10 post rule is to stop n00bs joining up and immediately jumping in and posting without first searching. Also yes he will get reported and posts pruned, even in off-topic section if they are his first posts and simply spamming to bypass 10 post rule.
Secondly, "grow up"?? wtf are you talking about? Have you been smoking crack with your family today for Xmas? If you are going to reply or contradict me at least try and make sense.

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Firstly, When did I say or infer that posting 10 posts and you're not a n00b??
I said that the 10 post rule is to stop n00bs joining up and immediately jumping in and posting without first searching. Also yes he will get reported and posts pruned, even in off-topic section if they are his first posts and simply spamming to bypass 10 post rule.
Secondly, "grow up"?? wtf are you talking about? Have you been smoking crack with your family today for Xmas? If you are going to reply or contradict me at least try and make sense.
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You are very lost and confused...

n0me said:
Why is it that I have to wait ten postings long to ask a question concerning a problem with a ROM I'm using? You want me really to do some generic blabla to wait till I'm "qualified enough" to post on a thread in the developement section? Oh and in the meantime I'll go to a public phone instead of using my mobile that is not working due to a problem from one of the ROM's on here. That is not very user friendly to say the least.
And eight more postings to go........
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Seriously, come on..
I fully understand this rule and I have "only" been a member since feb 2011..
Since I own a huge forum of my own I might have some info to bring forward to you.
If you allow newbies to post everywhere, where do you think the forum will be placed?
a) In the top of active forum list?
b) In the spammers heaven list?
And a follow up to that, where do you think a forum owner would like to end up?

All right kids knock it off. The 10 post rule is there for a reason and it is not hard to make 10 good posts.
As for the question of what would be posted if users couldn't post? Well check my sign for that answer. Before android hit the masses, the posts in Dev based threads were Dev related posts offering fixes. If something is broken in a rom your using then dig in and try to fix it. That is what XDA is here for. To help others learn. Rom makers do it for the fun of it and decide to share. Some also include small bugs to see who will try to help fix it by providing good info and possible fixes and who will post "huh this is broke please fix"

Meanwhile back at the ranch...
Ok, to end this thread, I restored the phone yesterday using the good old diy-trial-and-error method. Works like a charm again with the old ROM. I have to see where I go from here ROM-wise. I will probably change the ROM and move to a more user-focused community. Meanwhile the dev got back to my p.m. explaining what could have caused the problem, which is very kind of him. So thanks to ladyboo for helping out.

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I will probably change the ROM and move to a more user-focused community.
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lol, good luck finding a forum with even 1% of the roms/releasers/info that XDA has

LMAO!! So...I think he got his 10 posts here...
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LMAO!! So...I think he got his 10 posts here...
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But I understand the need for 10 posts...It's really not that hard. and in the case of an emergency...PM the dev.. I did

replying to a thread in development forum

i have been a member of xda forums for 1 1/2 years, as well as other android forums around the net. i'm usually the type of person that reads the threads more than i post in them, unless i truly have a helpful answer for someone or i genuinely need help with something. bc of this i have only two posts here at xda, as it's not my go-to forum. nonetheless, i still look through threads here for info and help and occasionally i know the answer to someone's question. upon trying to help someone out earlier in the vzw gnex development forum i was presented with a v-bulletin message telling me i'm not allowed to post there because it's for 'advanced users' who have 'more than ten posts.' i find this to be a ridiculous policy, based solely on my prior activity, or lack thereof. i consider myself to be pretty proficient with android, and basically i would have to make seven other posts in addition to this one (which would have no merit as i don't need to make seven other posts at this time) and clog up other sections of the forums just so i can reply to someone in a development thread. is there no way around this? or do i truly have to come up with some bs posts elsewhere just to help someone?

The reason is they don't want time wasters taking up the time of the developers or people asking questions which have already been asked and answered. Where all it would take is a little effort to search. It fairly easy to get your ten posts look for other forums where you could help. With the amount of members xda all ready has and the amount that sign up everyday, there no way of knowing or determining what expertise the new member may or not have.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app

i understand what you mean, but I'm far off from being a new member. As stated in the op I've been a member for a year and a half (since Feb 2011.) Oh well. Thanks for the reply

All I can suggest is u look about some of the other forum's where u can post and see if there are people in their u can help.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app

As chris170569 said, it really isn't difficult to write 10 posts around these forums. If indeed you've done a lot of reading here and are a proficient android user, as you say, then even though you may not feel the need to make other posts, but there are always users here who need help.
The best place to start of is in the forums for your device and look through the General and Q&A sections of said forum to see if you can help anyone.
There's always the option of helping out in the General and Q&A subforums of the General forum.
The posts really won't take long to build up.
Sent from Stephen Hawking's rooted wheelchair

What you post was absolutely ryt bro::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
Sent from my HTC Explorer A310e using xda app-developers app

Just like KidCarter93 and chris170569 have said it is pretty easy to get 10 thanked posted. As you can see I'm a pretty new member and already have gotten 10+ thanked post. However, when I first came to XDA I didn't even get a thanked post in a forum until almost a month later. After that I post at least once a day, to see if I can help someone out. Just saying you get in what you put out.
Since you're proficient in android, make a thread on answering people's question (if there isn't one already). But to answer your question the only way to answer people's question that you come across is to private message them.

running into the same issue ... need help big time on my EVO

Go to the discussion forum for your device. Should find someone there. Or start a new thread in the Q & A section for your device. Make sure u have really really searched first, if your problem can be sorted by a quick search n u not done that you will get flamed mercessilly
Sent from my Jelly Bean eating sending thing using xda-developers app

[Q] i cant reply

where do we supposed to reply in this forum? if we make a new thread here, they will closed it. if we reply to the topic that we needed, we are not allowed. what will we do here?

New version for taptalk have this problem .. just try many time it will work
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2

zerovirusity said:
where do we supposed to reply in this forum? if we make a new thread here, they will closed it. if we reply to the topic that we needed, we are not allowed. what will we do here?
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You need to fulfill the 10 post rule first. Most threads are development threads, therefore new members are not allowed to post until the 10 post minimum is met. This doesn't mean go and make 10 spam/junk/worthless posts either. Someone is always watching for this kind of behaviour.

zerovirusity said:
to all members here, although we are newbies here, we are aware of the rules in this forum because i am also a member in some forums. i hope you will considerate us. we chose to be a member here because this forum has a lot of things that we needed and some answers for our questions. if that's the case that we need to post 10 or more than posts, then please allow us here to post. don't closed it first until we reach 10 posts.
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Threads are only closed for irrelevant posts/spam. Make a worthwhile post and it won't be deleted/locked/removed. Pretty simple really. Everyone needs to bear in mind that this forum is intended for developers. Which 90% or better of you are not.

There are already plenty of threads that discuss this topic, so we don't need a new once (hence the closure).
One of my favourite reasons for the 10 post rule is that it encourages most users (the less spammy and needy ones) to spend more time reading than trying to post in development forums. If you do spend enough time reading you find that 99% of your questions have already been answered, and you learn a hell of a lot and start being able to answer questions yourself. That's a great way to take part in the community as a contributing member. In fairness, if you come here to leech and not participate then you're not adding anything to the forum.
Anyway, if you want more info then see the link in my signature about 10 posts - that should answer more questions