[Q] How to use extSD as main storage? P3100 - Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Not to long ago we got a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 for our son, model P3100. We made a big mistake by going for the 8GB version as out of the 8GB only 4GB is usable. We bought and installed 2 large games and the space is pretty much full. We thought an extSD card would solve the issue and so we got an additional 16GB card. Unfortunately Samsung consists of a bunch of morons... Kind of disappointing after being a huge fan of them.
Can anyone guide me or give advice on what can be done? I was hoping to somehow use the extSD card to store the games...
The device is not rooted.

rand0mdud3 said:
Not to long ago we got a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 for our son, model P3100. We made a big mistake by going for the 8GB version as out of the 8GB only 4GB is usable. We bought and installed 2 large games and the space is pretty much full. We thought an extSD card would solve the issue and so we got an additional 16GB card. Unfortunately Samsung consists of a bunch of morons... Kind of disappointing after being a huge fan of them.
Can anyone guide me or give advice on what can be done? I was hoping to somehow use the extSD card to store the games...
The device is not rooted.
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the device needs to be rooted first of...
I use this ....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961097

rand0mdud3 said:
Not to long ago we got a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 for our son, model P3100. We made a big mistake by going for the 8GB version as out of the 8GB only 4GB is usable. We bought and installed 2 large games and the space is pretty much full. We thought an extSD card would solve the issue and so we got an additional 16GB card. Unfortunately Samsung consists of a bunch of morons... Kind of disappointing after being a huge fan of them.
Can anyone guide me or give advice on what can be done? I was hoping to somehow use the extSD card to store the games...
The device is not rooted.
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I really do not think it is Samsung's fault. Google doesn't much care for external storage, and it shows in their newer os'es. Samsung and others have stated that it is Google's doing.
http://www.sebertech.com/helpline/samsung-galaxy-note-2/2013022311525.html
Not the ref. I was looking for, but a little on the subject.
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Swap External and Internal Memory
Hi everyone
I have a similar problem.
I use a P 3100 running stock firmware 4.1.2/ stock kernel/ Rooted
Need to swap External to Internal
Problems
App1 : Swap External to Internal by codlab - Has anyone tested this
App2 : GL 2 SD - It works for games, what about other apps with huge memory consumption? I use a lot of medical apps with frequent updates
Method1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2182928
Does this work for stock kernel's too using the same steps?
Please Advice
Thanks
Arun

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Any drawbacks with the 16GB model?

Guys,
I'm looking to get a 10.1 Note to replace my TF201 32GB model.
Trouble is here in the UK the only configuration is the 16GB model.
As such I am concerned what with software ever growing at an alarming rate it won't take long before that internal memory is full.
Therefore, I'm coming to those who already have the 16GB model to ask "have any of you found any drawbacks with the 16GB Note 10.1"?
16GB = 11+GB in user available storage
Beards said:
Guys,
I'm looking to get a 10.1 Note to replace my TF201 32GB model.
Trouble is here in the UK the only configuration is the 16GB model.
As such I am concerned what with software ever growing at an alarming rate it won't take long before that internal memory is full.
Therefore, I'm coming to those who already have the 16GB model to ask "have any of you found any drawbacks with the 16GB Note 10.1"?
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I had a 16GB, and switched it out for 32GB within 30 days. I had no problems with it per se-- it worked great.
But I was alarmed that Android OS and Samsung features/bloatware took up more than 25% of that 16GB! The available storage at first boot was 11+GB.
If you are comfortable with using a micro-SD card to hold your data and apps, then the 16GB is probably fine. I prefer to keep my apps installed on the device itself when possible for those occasions when I swap the SD card out for one reason or another. So for me, 32 GB (OK, 28+ available GB) was better than 11+GB.
JC
Nope, no problem whatsoever with the 16GB version. It'll be quite hard to fill up the space with apps, movies and music are more likely. But yes, you can just get microsd card if you need more than 16gb. I'm using one, SanDisk 32gb microsd that I got from amazon when they had a huge offer on it and it works great.
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Some Apps have an additional data storage of over a GB each.
Surely this data gets stored in the internal 16GB and not the external MicroSD card.
That being the case for storage of your Apps additional data files, the MicroSD doesn't come into play.
I use my MicroSD card purely for non data files, as in music, movies and work related files.
Therefore with only a portion available from the initial 16GB and with one App's data files of whom may require many hundreds of MB'S for storage it's not going to be long before the internal space is full.
Beards said:
Guys,
I'm looking to get a 10.1 Note to replace my TF201 32GB model.
Trouble is here in the UK the only configuration is the 16GB model.
As such I am concerned what with software ever growing at an alarming rate it won't take long before that internal memory is full.
Therefore, I'm coming to those who already have the 16GB model to ask "have any of you found any drawbacks with the 16GB Note 10.1"?
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None at all
And if you are worried about space see this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31774375&postcount=6
You can actually store anything on the microsd card, including ALL and any app data
hairdewx said:
None at all
And if you are worried about space see this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31774375&postcount=6
You can actually store anything on the microsd card, including ALL and any app data
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Thanks... but that does require root and it will be something I will not be able to carry out given my IT department will effectively be looking after my Tablet.
No drawbacks really other than the lower storage space. I had a white 16gb at first. After installing my apps and alot of games, I saw my storage space dwindling. So I returned it and got a 32gb. Now if you not a heavy gamer, you should be fine with 16gb. There are few apps that I know of that uses tons of storage space. Only one that comes to mind is. Google Earth. With microsd card, you could store all of your movies, pictures, music, etc... on it.
I wonder why they limiting the UK to only 16gb. Is there no other place that'll deliver a 32gb there?
If I remwber right, out of 16gb, only like 11-12 or so gb is available to use. The OS uses up remaining space. Games are the only ones that can easily be 1-2gb total. Good luck deciding. This Note 10.1 is an excellent device. My first Samsung tablet. More than exceeded my expectations. It works great out the box. Plus its specs is telly good also. Samsung quadcore Exynos4 and 2gb of ram & S-pen.
All good here! I'm not rooted, and with plenty of apps installed, 10.9 free space. I route all apps output, pic, vids etc to my extSdCard that I can.
That will save a tremendous amount of space.
Remember...
CASH is good...
but
CACHE KILLS...
Clean your cache, at minimum Every two weeks.
demandarin said:
No drawbacks really other than the lower storage space. I had a white 16gb at first. After installing my apps and alot of games, I saw my storage space dwindling. So I returned it and got a 32gb. Now if you not a heavy gamer, you should be fine with 16gb. There are few apps that I know of that uses tons of storage space. Only one that comes to mind is. Google Earth. With microsd card, you could store all of your movies, pictures, music, etc... on it.
I wonder why they limiting the UK to only 16gb. Is there no other place that'll deliver a 32gb there?
If I remwber right, out of 16gb, only like 11-12 or so gb is available to use. The OS uses up remaining space. Games are the only ones that can easily be 1-2gb total. Good luck deciding. This Note 10.1 is an excellent device. My first Samsung tablet. More than exceeded my expectations. It works great out the box. Plus its specs is telly good also. Samsung quadcore Exynos4 and 2gb of ram & S-pen.
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Hi demandarin, nice to catch you over here.
Even though I am not a heavy gamer I do have a number of business Apps that consume huge amounts of additional data which none can be moved to the external sd card unfortunately (and no I can not root ~ without having an argument with my IT team). So yes that 11GB remaining does concern me.
Samsung do this to us each time be it a phone or tablet.... They tend to put the 16GB models to SIM free, 32GB models to carriers and the 64GB just don't make it over here.
GalaxyBill said:
All good here! I'm not rooted, and with plenty of apps installed, 10.9 free space. I route all apps output, pic, vids etc to my extSdCard that I can.
That will save a tremendous amount of space.
Remember...
CASH is good...
but
CACHE KILLS...
Clean your cache, at minimum Every two weeks.
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You are fortunate in being able to root.... I would jump to it were it not for my IT team.
That's the problem, I save my hospital some money by placing it under their control and this is one of the hurdles you come under.
As to caching, yes totally agree...... I do it all the time on my 16GB Nexus 7 which is always a pain in keeping those MB's free.
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Trouble is here in the UK the only configuration is the 16GB model.
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32GB grey is coming... i have to wait another month for mine from very. though nearly 2 months after launch is a f*ck*ng joke
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I can not root ~ without having an argument with my IT team
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i take it you haven't actually asked them? just avoid asking the "we are the supreme race" thinking IT guy and you might be pleasantly surprised!!
dhd1802 said:
32GB grey is coming... i have to wait another month for mine from very. though nearly 2 months after launch is a f*ck*ng joke
i take it you haven't actually asked them? just avoid asking the "we are the supreme race" thinking IT guy and you might be pleasantly surprised!!
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I emailed Very just out of curiosity and they said October but to be frank I do not trust them.
Re my IT team, I don't need to speak with my hospital IT team. I know precisely what the situation is.
No issues here. Even with NOVA 3 and MC3 and a few smaller games I have roughly 4 GBs left.
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Galaxy tab 7.7 internal storge

HI
I have seen a brand new tab 7.7 16gb for £260 with next day shipping. As I'm waiting for my iPad mini pre order refund as i dont like waiting 3 weeks for a tablet lol.
I own a Galaxy Note 1st gen and really like the amoled screen tech.
What I want to know is what is the amount of internal storage is there for apps etc. as the note only shows 2gb when fresh. And 11gb for usb storage.
I understand you can root to change the the problem with not been able to move apps to external sd card, but i dont want to do that.
I have rooted things before and changed roms but its not something I'm looking at doing on a brand new tablet.
Also is it anygood/ known problems with ics etc..
A picture to show the internal storage amount would be great if anyone could do that please.
Thanks
i think there is no limitation for app space...
fantomv50 said:
HI
I have seen a brand new tab 7.7 16gb for £260 with next day shipping. As I'm waiting for my iPad mini pre order refund as i dont like waiting 3 weeks for a tablet lol.
I own a Galaxy Note 1st gen and really like the amoled screen tech.
What I want to know is what is the amount of internal storage is there for apps etc. as the note only shows 2gb when fresh. And 11gb for usb storage.
I understand you can root to change the the problem with not been able to move apps to external sd card, but i dont want to do that.
I have rooted things before and changed roms but its not something I'm looking at doing on a brand new tablet.
Also is it anygood/ known problems with ics etc..
A picture to show the internal storage amount would be great if anyone could do that please.
Thanks
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for the Galaxy Tab 7.7 the storage limit for apps is the size of the internal sd itself.
I believe there is something wrong with you if you ever manage to fill the whole 16GB just with apps
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total space for apps internally around 13gb. its enough. unless you playing gameloft games which some of it will eat around 2gb for data. then you need to plan how many... for other company... or kids stuff... the highest i've ever try is around 120 apps... and i still had 8gb left for other thing... and i use 64gb sdcard for movies/songs/documents
Great
Well it seems to be better than the tab 7 2 I owned with only 4.9g storage.
I ordered a iPad mini case before I cancelled the order. and thats turned up today. what a nice size.
I want the tab 7.7 for the screen tech and I know what it can do been the same spec as my Note.
Well thanks for the help.
Just have to wait now for the refund from Apple. they I can order it.
to the filling up the 16gb. I have over 550 iOS apps So I think i could fill the apple up.
I have 80+ apps/games on the NOTE and still have 1gb left for apps and around 3.9gb left on the usb storage and nearly all of my 16gb mircosd card left.
yep.. we do got plenty apps on IOS... but to find the same apps on android... kind of diificult...
I've got the P6800 32GB and that has 27.16GB available. Remember that is split between apps (data partition) and internal storage (sdcard partition). So if you take lots of pictures or store lots of movies you'll be limited by how many apps you can install.
You can also add an external sd-card for more space. Read elsewhere in this forum where people have had some success with 64GB sd cards.
Hi
This is how the Galaxy notes memory is setup. Is the tab 7.7 like this.
Thanks
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Ive ordered now so hopefully its ok.
Thanks everyone.
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fantomv50 said:
Ive ordered now so hopefully its ok.
Thanks everyone.
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this how it looks on GT-P6800
edan1979 said:
this how it looks on GT-P6800
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Thanks for that Picture, puts my mind at ease now.
I should get it friday 2nd Nov, Apple can jump. three bloody weeks...
Plus I do like amoled ( I think I have said it before LOL )
Thanks
Well had it for 2 days now due to expansys.
But its the French version that only has honeycomb. Good job the ics rom i got works on it.
Boots very quick too.
Found the usb host bit in box today so happy with saving £18.99.
Did I say its got a great Display. But nearly full too
Thanks again
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[Q] Amount of internal storage available for installing apps

Hi all,
Does anyone know how much internal memory is available for installing apps? I know the Note 10.1 comes with 16GB or 32GB of internal storage, but how much of the storage can I use for apps? The reason I'm asking is because recently, I keep getting messages on my Galaxy S2 phone about low memory (only ~200MB free) when installing new apps. And I don't even have that many apps installed. Apparently, there's only 2GB for apps and 11.5GB for storing files like MP3s and videos. I assume the remaining 2.5GB is used for the OS and other internal apps.
Given that this is a tablet, I would expect there to be more than 2GB of memory for apps, especially for the 32GB version. It would be disappointing if that's not the case.
Thank you.
lancer6238 said:
Hi all,
Does anyone know how much internal memory is available for installing apps? I know the Note 10.1 comes with 16GB or 32GB of internal storage, but how much of the storage can I use for apps? The reason I'm asking is because recently, I keep getting messages on my Galaxy S2 phone about low memory (only ~200MB free) when installing new apps. And I don't even have that many apps installed. Apparently, there's only 2GB for apps and 11.5GB for storing files like MP3s and videos. I assume the remaining 2.5GB is used for the OS and other internal apps.
Given that this is a tablet, I would expect there to be more than 2GB of memory for apps, especially for the 32GB version. It would be disappointing if that's not the case.
Thank you.
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Whichever version you got is the amount of space you had.. 16gb =14.9gb/ 32gb=29.7gb
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txtmikhail said:
Whichever version you got is the amount of space you had.. 16gb =14.9gb/ 32gb=29.7gb
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So it's different from the Galaxy S2 phones? Any idea why that is?
The s2 as 16gb of memory but this is how it works....
16gb=14.7gb
App memory=2gb
Internal sdcard=11.5gb
Samsung split the memory into 2 parts.. Their newer devices share the whole memory..
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Thanks!
I hope you got the 32gb though, 16 gb seems to run out oh so very quickly unless you use the external/internal memory swap mod and have a 64gb sd card...
ultramag69 said:
I hope you got the 32gb though, 16 gb seems to run out oh so very quickly unless you use the external/internal memory swap mod and have a 64gb sd card...
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It all depends on what u do with the tablet.. I have 16gb version.. I have 32gb sdard .. On tablet 3gb of data use And sdcard I have 11gb used.. I have more space than I need.. I use the cloud mostly thats why.. And I don't really play games.. Just got a few basic games.. I Leave the hardcore games to the xbox
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ultramag69 said:
I hope you got the 32gb though, 16 gb seems to run out oh so very quickly unless you use the external/internal memory swap mod and have a 64gb sd card...
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Yup, I got the 32GB one. I'll mostly be using it for videos and a few games, and I thought it's better to be safe and buy the bigger capacity one.
fukin retarded
i have legit fukin question but i have to come to this bull**** which btw has NOTHING in regards to the issue im having or rom im usin to post 10 so i can go back and ask........smfh
Is there a way to change the space allocation, ie. Give more than 2gb to apps.
Thanks
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32GB=sufficient storage?

Self explanatory title (note I'm asking "sufficient", not "enough")
How are you guys finding the onboard storage situation w/ your 32GB models? I'm unclear how much use the SDcard would be. Sure, you can point your camera + Spotify cache to the SDcard instead but just looking at my iphone 6, I would still have need another 17-18GB to cover other apps and their data (this is w/o a silly amount of games). I know you can move some apps from onboard storage to your SDcard, how do you find the performance difference?
A bit bummed over SG's seemingly shortsighted decision to limit most global markets to the 32GB variant. From what I've seen online and with a few demo units, actual free usable storage comes in around 14-16GB, which is fairly pitiful. If Android "only" uses 8GB, where's the extra? Is TW and other add in that large?
NB: I posted the same question in the S7 Edge forum, but I'm curious what the regular S7 community thinks about this topic
I guess 32gb is pretty enough and do the job very well , but 64gb is the perfect storage in my opinion.
ngmic said:
From what I've seen online and with a few demo units, actual free usable storage comes in around 14-16GB, which is fairly pitiful. If Android "only" uses 8GB, where's the extra? Is TW and other add in that large?
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That news story is bs, theres around 24gb of free space on the s7.
peachpuff said:
That news story is bs, theres around 24gb of free space on the s7.
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is that what you see from your unit? great news if that's the case, that extra 6-8gb is huge
Min for me is 64gb
peachpuff said:
That news story is bs, theres around 24gb of free space on the s7.
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That story was so misleading to most ppl, the guy who showed that screenshot had 16gb free after he installed his own apps, now ppl think it only has 16gb free out of the box !
Yeah, it's frustrating how the tech media scaremongered that false info around. Storage out the box is ~24GB for US carrier versions (8.08GB taken by Android System) and ~25GB for unlocked models (7.27GB taken by Android System).
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With microSD that's easy, I could get by with 16GB no problem.
wifesabitch said:
With microSD that's easy, I could get by with 16GB no problem.
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I had 16GB on my S5 with a 128GB µSD, but the 16GB internal memory was really an issue since moving apps to the SD card is not always working as it should (I had to use FolderMount to solve my issues, but I'd like to avoid having to find workarounds like that).
32GB should be ok though.
ngmic said:
is that what you see from your unit? great news if that's the case, that extra 6-8gb is huge
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No i don't have mine yet, im just good at math, 32-8=24
I had 64Gb on my S6, and barely made it to 10gb of apps. 24 gb for apps/data is no problem I would think since you can save music/photos to the SD card.
Every phone that I've had SD card on has always been 16gb or 32gb phone an I've never needed anymore than that.
I've moved all my games to my SD card and performance is fine for those type of things.
For me 32 (24) GB is definitely not enough..
I want the 64gb version at a minimum.
peachpuff said:
No i don't have mine yet, im just good at math, 32-8=24
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haha right. the demo unit i played with also had 16GB free, but i couldn't tell how much of that was demo-related bloat
UK Exynos S7 = 7.27GB System Memory
Leaving ~24.5GB available.
The only thing on my phones which begin to hit storage problems were Titainum backups along with my podcast library. Everything else would probably fit in less than 10 gb, and that includes hearthstone.
AppMgr III and a 64gb sd card works for me just fine. Of course AppMgr III can no longer clean the cache all at once. It wants you to go to the storage settings for each app and empty the cache.

Updated to 6.0 but cant move apps to Sdcard ?

So how do u move some games data that fill up almost all internal storage to my sdcard? i have no option if i got a game that takes alot of space to even move it ? whats wrong ? the sdcard is visible says 2gb used and 28gb free but i cant move any app or game to sdcard i dont understand ?
The new 6.0.1 v. 1.2 works fine.
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I would also like to know how to move apps to sd card in Marshmallow.
awes0me1 said:
The new 6.0.1 v. 1.2 works fine.
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Can you please help with that?
Works the same as it did in lollipop ie its broken
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Works the same as it did in lollipop ie its broken
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I should point out that I only ever got it working with 32 gig cards or smaller even formating in PC
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ferrari35 said:
Works the same as it did in lollipop ie its broken
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I should point out that I only ever got it working with 32 gig cards or smaller even formating in PC
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Well that sucks, my smaller 32gb sd card is way slower than my new 64gb sd card.
mortuus82 said:
So how do u move some games data that fill up almost all internal storage to my sdcard? i have no option if i got a game that takes alot of space to even move it ? whats wrong ? the sdcard is visible says 2gb used and 28gb free but i cant move any app or game to sdcard i dont understand ?
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You could try FolderMount as I suggested here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tablet/help/adopting-internal-storage-results-t3297419
As I said I haven't tried the app on MM but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work but YMMV.
really starting to p me off!!
what is this all about, not bein able to move apps to sd! it seems only certain and few phones allow it now rather than the developers. this is my second phone to have 6.0, the first one i returned because it was only 8 gb internal (which is really only 3,5 after system mem) and i recently have gotten into games, games that mind you can take upwards of almost three gb, i returned it for a lg phoenix 2 16gb only to find out that there is NO option to move to sd, its really a punh in the crotch to buy a phone with 16gb only to have 9 useable gb, after all the pointless crap they force us to have that cant be moved,,,"well root your phone then" everybody says, oh, well, i happen to be one of the few luckies that have alwasys purchased a phone that a rooting method has never been found, and no i refuse to spend 600 bucks on a "popular" phone,, that always has a way to be rooted just to one up my friends, and im too broke this is my fifth unrootable phone, And i cant move my apps? wtf!!!! ive never been an apple man, but this has me knocking on their door..i have researched and tried everything, watched videos and read novels of it being done, some say to format the sd as internal, i say impossible, guess what, no option for that either, only format, no internal. how in the F*** do move my apps, or even better how the crap do i downgrade back to lollipop??????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
I haven't explored with the Shield Tablet (16G is enough for my apps currently, so my SD card is portable storage). But on my Moto G3, Marshmallow removed the ability to move apps to SD unless you've integrated it as adopted (i.e., internal) storage. If the SD is mounted as portable storage apps can't be moved to the card. Again, not positive if this is also the case for the Shield, but it wouldn't surprise me.
darian_420 said:
what is this all about, not bein able to move apps to sd! it seems only certain and few phones allow it now rather than the developers. this is my second phone to have 6.0, the first one i returned because it was only 8 gb internal (which is really only 3,5 after system mem) and i recently have gotten into games, games that mind you can take upwards of almost three gb, i returned it for a lg phoenix 2 16gb only to find out that there is NO option to move to sd, its really a punh in the crotch to buy a phone with 16gb only to have 9 useable gb, after all the pointless crap they force us to have that cant be moved,,,"well root your phone then" everybody says, oh, well, i happen to be one of the few luckies that have alwasys purchased a phone that a rooting method has never been found, and no i refuse to spend 600 bucks on a "popular" phone,, that always has a way to be rooted just to one up my friends, and im too broke this is my fifth unrootable phone, And i cant move my apps? wtf!!!! ive never been an apple man, but this has me knocking on their door..i have researched and tried everything, watched videos and read novels of it being done, some say to format the sd as internal, i say impossible, guess what, no option for that either, only format, no internal. how in the F*** do move my apps, or even better how the crap do i downgrade back to lollipop??????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
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Dude, stop complaining and you really need to write clearly so other people can read your post.
Conclusion: there is a way to bypass and use SD card as internal storage, but it is not a good idea.
Here is why:
I have a LG K371, and a G.Skill 64GB microSD with speed class 10. The microSD is not as good as Sandisk's speed class 10, as it read/write at 45/15 MB/s vs Sandisk 80/20 MB/s.
The original 16GB internal storage read/write at about 100/70 MB/s (I don't remember the exact number).
After using ADB command tool, I did successfully bypass and be able to use microSD as internal storage. The process is a bit annoying, because I kept seeing error message and sometimes the phone show "SD card is corrupted". I repeat this process multiple times and did some test with differing configuration.
If I use all the space as internal storage, the speed is about 15/7 MB/s
If I use half the space (so I can use the card on computer), the speed is 13/5 Mb/s
If I use 16GB of space as internal storage, the speed is on 9/3 MB/s.
The speed difference is caused by the special file partition format used for adoptable storage, which can't be access by windows computer.
You see, even with a 64GB speed 10 SD card, the speed drops to 15/7 MB/s. It is as slow as USB 2.0 flash drive.
Not to mention if you use a 16GB SD card, the speed is only 9/3 MB/s, which is intolerably slow.
The real problem is that the phone doesn't recognize the speed difference between the SD card and the internal memory, it still thought the phone is running at 70MB/s. So when it installs apps to the memory or start a game (was supposed to be in the internal memory, but now in the SD card), it took way more time (do the math yourself, 70/7=10). Are you willing to wait for 2 minutes for a game to start, which originally took 5 sec? How about the endless lagging in the app, every thing takes 2 sec to response?
Use Sandisk may get a different speed result, but the user experience in this case will be similar.
So don't force to use SD card as internal storage if the phone's manufacture doesn't approve doing so.
Hope my story help you in some way.
@darian_420
I have nst k1, my tests (samsung pro 64gb) are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/shi...card-performance-comparison-exfat-vs-t3312982 post #8
I don't use adopted storage - I'm waiting for Nougat.
Ps.
Link2sd+ can move obbs to sdcard(external).
@dzpcool
Yours sd card(G.skill) is to slow. I'm using adopted storage in moto e 2nd and it's great idea.
dzidexx said:
@darian_420
I have nst k1, my tests (samsung pro 64gb) are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/shi...card-performance-comparison-exfat-vs-t3312982 post #8
I don't use adopted storage - I'm waiting for Nougat.
Ps.
Link2sd+ can move obbs to sdcard(external).
@dzpcool
Yours sd card(G.skill) is to slow. I'm using adopted storage in moto e 2nd and it's great idea.
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Have you done speed test on the moto e 2 using adopted storage? In you google drive, I saw 2 test pic 81/62 and 47/28 MB/s, can you tell me which sd card and configuration did you use?
dzpcool said:
Have you done speed test on the moto e 2 using adopted storage? In you google drive, I saw 2 test pic 81/62 and 47/28 MB/s, can you tell me which sd card and configuration did you use?
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Look into my post before(here) and names of screens.
Moto e 2nd 28/21 the same card - adopted(mm&nougat, custom roms).
Tests are somewhere in moto thread.
dzidexx said:
Look into my post before(here) and names of screens.
Moto e 2nd 28/21 the same card - adopted(mm&nougat, custom roms).
Tests are somewhere in moto thread.
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My bad, didn't check post 8
Whether 47/28 or 28/21 are good, enough for daily use.
I was able to get 20 write with NTFS format. The problem is my LG Phoenix 2 (K371) is just terrible at handling adoptable storage. Considering it is less than half the price than MOTO E 2 (you can even get it $30 with deal), maybe the manufacture doesn't want or pay any effort to support adoptable storage. However, low-end budget phone happen to the one most need extra storage space, cause some of them even only have 8G ROM.
LG is different story, it seem oppose adoptable storage. Even high-end model like G4 doesn't support it in the stock rom.
dzpcool said:
...47/28 or 28/21 are good,...The problem is my LG Phoenix 2 (K371) is just terrible...
LG is different story, it seem oppose adoptable storage. Even high-end model like G4 doesn't support it in the stock rom.
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Lg g2 - you can flash custom rom and use faster sd card.
Lg, Samsung, Sony, Asus, Xiaomi, Huawei...blocked adopted storage.
They want you to buy a newer model with much memory.
dzidexx said:
Lg g2 - you can flash custom rom and use faster sd card.
Lg, Samsung, Sony, Asus, Xiaomi, Huawei...blocked adopted storage.
They want you to buy a newer model with much memory.
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Does Moto support it in the stock rom? If not, it seems Google is the only left among the named brand.
A budge phone brand BLU supports it. I guess some brands don't do it because they want you to buy more expensive model with bigger storage, while some want to keep the price competitive.
I don't know all brands.
Lenovo Moto, Htc, Nvidia - have adopted storage support with stock. @dzpcool
dzidexx said:
I don't know all brands.
Lenovo Moto, Htc, Nvidia - have adopted storage support with stock. @dzpcool
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Thanks for your reply.
Lenovo bought Moto (Their new phone is great, but the market share is not so great), and HTC is a dying company. I feel little to almost no hope seeing adopted storage on major brand phones : (
mortuus82 said:
So how do u move some games data that fill up almost all internal storage to my sdcard? i have no option if i got a game that takes alot of space to even move it ? whats wrong ? the sdcard is visible says 2gb used and 28gb free but i cant move any app or game to sdcard i dont understand ?
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I have the exact same problem. one day I randomly checked and the option was there but usually it isn't..

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