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[Q] Free Internal Memory on first boot?

I know it has 1GB Internal storage but how much of that is used by Android/Sense and how much is left for the user?
I have seen some reports that say that the Sensation actually has 4GB internal but only 1GB is user accessible. Does this mean that the other 3GB are used for OS/Sense and the user sees the full 1GB free on first boot?
TIA

Correct. The actual amount of available memory will be approximately 1.20 GB.

kgbkny said:
Correct. The actual amount of available memory will be approximately 1.20 GB.
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Thanks, I can live with 1GB as long as it's all for me and not also taken up by Android/Sense

What happens when the 1gb space runs out. Can I not install anymore apps? 1 gig is quite small if its only for apps.
I will be coming from an iPhone, so you can understand my memory question.
Thanks.

simacca said:
What happens when the 1gb space runs out. Can I not install anymore apps? 1 gig is quite small if its only for apps.
I will be coming from an iPhone, so you can understand my memory question.
Thanks.
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Even though the iPhone has 16/32 gigs of internal memory and all of that is technically available for apps/games, I HIGHLY doubt you are using anywhere close to a gig. Apps are VERY small, shockingly. Also most games which are the biggest apps you can get on Andriod install all the extras on your SD card and never make a footprint on the internal memory. Basically what I mean by this is, if you use 1 GIG for apps... you sir have WAY to many apps lol. I have about 70 apps (not including system apps) and I am only using 578MB of my 1.2 GB interal memory. Most of those apps I could easily uninstal as I seldom use them, but I dont feel like it lol

I have about 8 gigs worth of apps/games on my 16gb iPhone 4. Quite a few of the decent arcade games are about 400mb.
I dont think I have too many apps on my iPhone and I would of thought most iPhone users have much more than 1gb worth of apps on their phones. You can never have too many apps
Can you install more than 1gb of apps on the Samsung Galaxy S2's internal memory?
If so, then why cant we install to the memory card when we run out of internal memory?
Would make things so much easier. I'm hoping that this will not put me of the Sensation when I finally get my hands one one

All I can say to that is damn... that is a lot of freaking apps. I have what I feel is well more then enough games and apps on my phone and haven't hit a gig. I should ask my cousin how much he has on his iPhone. I could never have that much stuff on my phone. And yes you can install 90% of apps on your SD card as well so you should be fine if you do hit your 1 GIG. Mostly widgets are the only thing that can not be installed on the SD card

Well thats good to know. At least I wont be worrying so much about running out of memory.
I don't play with half of my apps regularly, but it's good to know that they are there if I get bored

simacca said:
I have about 8 gigs worth of apps/games on my 16gb iPhone 4. Quite a few of the decent arcade games are about 400mb.
I dont think I have too many apps on my iPhone and I would of thought most iPhone users have much more than 1gb worth of apps on their phones. You can never have too many apps
Can you install more than 1gb of apps on the Samsung Galaxy S2's internal memory?
If so, then why cant we install to the memory card when we run out of internal memory?
Would make things so much easier. I'm hoping that this will not put me of the Sensation when I finally get my hands one one
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Having an iPad and an iPod I can understand your thinking. But with android even the big apps store their data ie game sounds etc on the sd card and the initial app is really small. There is a thing called apps to sd where you can choose to have the apps on the sd. Also as long as the sensation gets rooted at some point correct me if I'm wrong but you should have no problem filling your sd card with whatever apps you want as google have opened the file size restrictions for apps for developers.

Any drawbacks with the 16GB model?

Guys,
I'm looking to get a 10.1 Note to replace my TF201 32GB model.
Trouble is here in the UK the only configuration is the 16GB model.
As such I am concerned what with software ever growing at an alarming rate it won't take long before that internal memory is full.
Therefore, I'm coming to those who already have the 16GB model to ask "have any of you found any drawbacks with the 16GB Note 10.1"?

16GB = 11+GB in user available storage
Beards said:
Guys,
I'm looking to get a 10.1 Note to replace my TF201 32GB model.
Trouble is here in the UK the only configuration is the 16GB model.
As such I am concerned what with software ever growing at an alarming rate it won't take long before that internal memory is full.
Therefore, I'm coming to those who already have the 16GB model to ask "have any of you found any drawbacks with the 16GB Note 10.1"?
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I had a 16GB, and switched it out for 32GB within 30 days. I had no problems with it per se-- it worked great.
But I was alarmed that Android OS and Samsung features/bloatware took up more than 25% of that 16GB! The available storage at first boot was 11+GB.
If you are comfortable with using a micro-SD card to hold your data and apps, then the 16GB is probably fine. I prefer to keep my apps installed on the device itself when possible for those occasions when I swap the SD card out for one reason or another. So for me, 32 GB (OK, 28+ available GB) was better than 11+GB.
JC

Nope, no problem whatsoever with the 16GB version. It'll be quite hard to fill up the space with apps, movies and music are more likely. But yes, you can just get microsd card if you need more than 16gb. I'm using one, SanDisk 32gb microsd that I got from amazon when they had a huge offer on it and it works great.
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Some Apps have an additional data storage of over a GB each.
Surely this data gets stored in the internal 16GB and not the external MicroSD card.
That being the case for storage of your Apps additional data files, the MicroSD doesn't come into play.
I use my MicroSD card purely for non data files, as in music, movies and work related files.
Therefore with only a portion available from the initial 16GB and with one App's data files of whom may require many hundreds of MB'S for storage it's not going to be long before the internal space is full.

Beards said:
Guys,
I'm looking to get a 10.1 Note to replace my TF201 32GB model.
Trouble is here in the UK the only configuration is the 16GB model.
As such I am concerned what with software ever growing at an alarming rate it won't take long before that internal memory is full.
Therefore, I'm coming to those who already have the 16GB model to ask "have any of you found any drawbacks with the 16GB Note 10.1"?
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None at all
And if you are worried about space see this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31774375&postcount=6
You can actually store anything on the microsd card, including ALL and any app data

hairdewx said:
None at all
And if you are worried about space see this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31774375&postcount=6
You can actually store anything on the microsd card, including ALL and any app data
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Thanks... but that does require root and it will be something I will not be able to carry out given my IT department will effectively be looking after my Tablet.

No drawbacks really other than the lower storage space. I had a white 16gb at first. After installing my apps and alot of games, I saw my storage space dwindling. So I returned it and got a 32gb. Now if you not a heavy gamer, you should be fine with 16gb. There are few apps that I know of that uses tons of storage space. Only one that comes to mind is. Google Earth. With microsd card, you could store all of your movies, pictures, music, etc... on it.
I wonder why they limiting the UK to only 16gb. Is there no other place that'll deliver a 32gb there?
If I remwber right, out of 16gb, only like 11-12 or so gb is available to use. The OS uses up remaining space. Games are the only ones that can easily be 1-2gb total. Good luck deciding. This Note 10.1 is an excellent device. My first Samsung tablet. More than exceeded my expectations. It works great out the box. Plus its specs is telly good also. Samsung quadcore Exynos4 and 2gb of ram & S-pen.

All good here! I'm not rooted, and with plenty of apps installed, 10.9 free space. I route all apps output, pic, vids etc to my extSdCard that I can.
That will save a tremendous amount of space.
Remember...
CASH is good...
but
CACHE KILLS...
Clean your cache, at minimum Every two weeks.

demandarin said:
No drawbacks really other than the lower storage space. I had a white 16gb at first. After installing my apps and alot of games, I saw my storage space dwindling. So I returned it and got a 32gb. Now if you not a heavy gamer, you should be fine with 16gb. There are few apps that I know of that uses tons of storage space. Only one that comes to mind is. Google Earth. With microsd card, you could store all of your movies, pictures, music, etc... on it.
I wonder why they limiting the UK to only 16gb. Is there no other place that'll deliver a 32gb there?
If I remwber right, out of 16gb, only like 11-12 or so gb is available to use. The OS uses up remaining space. Games are the only ones that can easily be 1-2gb total. Good luck deciding. This Note 10.1 is an excellent device. My first Samsung tablet. More than exceeded my expectations. It works great out the box. Plus its specs is telly good also. Samsung quadcore Exynos4 and 2gb of ram & S-pen.
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Hi demandarin, nice to catch you over here.
Even though I am not a heavy gamer I do have a number of business Apps that consume huge amounts of additional data which none can be moved to the external sd card unfortunately (and no I can not root ~ without having an argument with my IT team). So yes that 11GB remaining does concern me.
Samsung do this to us each time be it a phone or tablet.... They tend to put the 16GB models to SIM free, 32GB models to carriers and the 64GB just don't make it over here.
GalaxyBill said:
All good here! I'm not rooted, and with plenty of apps installed, 10.9 free space. I route all apps output, pic, vids etc to my extSdCard that I can.
That will save a tremendous amount of space.
Remember...
CASH is good...
but
CACHE KILLS...
Clean your cache, at minimum Every two weeks.
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You are fortunate in being able to root.... I would jump to it were it not for my IT team.
That's the problem, I save my hospital some money by placing it under their control and this is one of the hurdles you come under.
As to caching, yes totally agree...... I do it all the time on my 16GB Nexus 7 which is always a pain in keeping those MB's free.

Beards said:
Trouble is here in the UK the only configuration is the 16GB model.
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32GB grey is coming... i have to wait another month for mine from very. though nearly 2 months after launch is a f*ck*ng joke
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I can not root ~ without having an argument with my IT team
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i take it you haven't actually asked them? just avoid asking the "we are the supreme race" thinking IT guy and you might be pleasantly surprised!!

dhd1802 said:
32GB grey is coming... i have to wait another month for mine from very. though nearly 2 months after launch is a f*ck*ng joke
i take it you haven't actually asked them? just avoid asking the "we are the supreme race" thinking IT guy and you might be pleasantly surprised!!
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I emailed Very just out of curiosity and they said October but to be frank I do not trust them.
Re my IT team, I don't need to speak with my hospital IT team. I know precisely what the situation is.

No issues here. Even with NOVA 3 and MC3 and a few smaller games I have roughly 4 GBs left.
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Galaxy tab 7.7 internal storge

HI
I have seen a brand new tab 7.7 16gb for £260 with next day shipping. As I'm waiting for my iPad mini pre order refund as i dont like waiting 3 weeks for a tablet lol.
I own a Galaxy Note 1st gen and really like the amoled screen tech.
What I want to know is what is the amount of internal storage is there for apps etc. as the note only shows 2gb when fresh. And 11gb for usb storage.
I understand you can root to change the the problem with not been able to move apps to external sd card, but i dont want to do that.
I have rooted things before and changed roms but its not something I'm looking at doing on a brand new tablet.
Also is it anygood/ known problems with ics etc..
A picture to show the internal storage amount would be great if anyone could do that please.
Thanks

i think there is no limitation for app space...

fantomv50 said:
HI
I have seen a brand new tab 7.7 16gb for £260 with next day shipping. As I'm waiting for my iPad mini pre order refund as i dont like waiting 3 weeks for a tablet lol.
I own a Galaxy Note 1st gen and really like the amoled screen tech.
What I want to know is what is the amount of internal storage is there for apps etc. as the note only shows 2gb when fresh. And 11gb for usb storage.
I understand you can root to change the the problem with not been able to move apps to external sd card, but i dont want to do that.
I have rooted things before and changed roms but its not something I'm looking at doing on a brand new tablet.
Also is it anygood/ known problems with ics etc..
A picture to show the internal storage amount would be great if anyone could do that please.
Thanks
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for the Galaxy Tab 7.7 the storage limit for apps is the size of the internal sd itself.
I believe there is something wrong with you if you ever manage to fill the whole 16GB just with apps
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total space for apps internally around 13gb. its enough. unless you playing gameloft games which some of it will eat around 2gb for data. then you need to plan how many... for other company... or kids stuff... the highest i've ever try is around 120 apps... and i still had 8gb left for other thing... and i use 64gb sdcard for movies/songs/documents

Great
Well it seems to be better than the tab 7 2 I owned with only 4.9g storage.
I ordered a iPad mini case before I cancelled the order. and thats turned up today. what a nice size.
I want the tab 7.7 for the screen tech and I know what it can do been the same spec as my Note.
Well thanks for the help.
Just have to wait now for the refund from Apple. they I can order it.
to the filling up the 16gb. I have over 550 iOS apps So I think i could fill the apple up.
I have 80+ apps/games on the NOTE and still have 1gb left for apps and around 3.9gb left on the usb storage and nearly all of my 16gb mircosd card left.

yep.. we do got plenty apps on IOS... but to find the same apps on android... kind of diificult...

I've got the P6800 32GB and that has 27.16GB available. Remember that is split between apps (data partition) and internal storage (sdcard partition). So if you take lots of pictures or store lots of movies you'll be limited by how many apps you can install.
You can also add an external sd-card for more space. Read elsewhere in this forum where people have had some success with 64GB sd cards.

Hi
This is how the Galaxy notes memory is setup. Is the tab 7.7 like this.
Thanks
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Ive ordered now so hopefully its ok.
Thanks everyone.
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fantomv50 said:
Ive ordered now so hopefully its ok.
Thanks everyone.
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this how it looks on GT-P6800

edan1979 said:
this how it looks on GT-P6800
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Thanks for that Picture, puts my mind at ease now.
I should get it friday 2nd Nov, Apple can jump. three bloody weeks...
Plus I do like amoled ( I think I have said it before LOL )
Thanks

Well had it for 2 days now due to expansys.
But its the French version that only has honeycomb. Good job the ics rom i got works on it.
Boots very quick too.
Found the usb host bit in box today so happy with saving £18.99.
Did I say its got a great Display. But nearly full too
Thanks again
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[Q] How to use extSD as main storage? P3100

Not to long ago we got a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 for our son, model P3100. We made a big mistake by going for the 8GB version as out of the 8GB only 4GB is usable. We bought and installed 2 large games and the space is pretty much full. We thought an extSD card would solve the issue and so we got an additional 16GB card. Unfortunately Samsung consists of a bunch of morons... Kind of disappointing after being a huge fan of them.
Can anyone guide me or give advice on what can be done? I was hoping to somehow use the extSD card to store the games...
The device is not rooted.

rand0mdud3 said:
Not to long ago we got a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 for our son, model P3100. We made a big mistake by going for the 8GB version as out of the 8GB only 4GB is usable. We bought and installed 2 large games and the space is pretty much full. We thought an extSD card would solve the issue and so we got an additional 16GB card. Unfortunately Samsung consists of a bunch of morons... Kind of disappointing after being a huge fan of them.
Can anyone guide me or give advice on what can be done? I was hoping to somehow use the extSD card to store the games...
The device is not rooted.
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the device needs to be rooted first of...
I use this ....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961097

rand0mdud3 said:
Not to long ago we got a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 for our son, model P3100. We made a big mistake by going for the 8GB version as out of the 8GB only 4GB is usable. We bought and installed 2 large games and the space is pretty much full. We thought an extSD card would solve the issue and so we got an additional 16GB card. Unfortunately Samsung consists of a bunch of morons... Kind of disappointing after being a huge fan of them.
Can anyone guide me or give advice on what can be done? I was hoping to somehow use the extSD card to store the games...
The device is not rooted.
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I really do not think it is Samsung's fault. Google doesn't much care for external storage, and it shows in their newer os'es. Samsung and others have stated that it is Google's doing.
http://www.sebertech.com/helpline/samsung-galaxy-note-2/2013022311525.html
Not the ref. I was looking for, but a little on the subject.
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Swap External and Internal Memory
Hi everyone
I have a similar problem.
I use a P 3100 running stock firmware 4.1.2/ stock kernel/ Rooted
Need to swap External to Internal
Problems
App1 : Swap External to Internal by codlab - Has anyone tested this
App2 : GL 2 SD - It works for games, what about other apps with huge memory consumption? I use a lot of medical apps with frequent updates
Method1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2182928
Does this work for stock kernel's too using the same steps?
Please Advice
Thanks
Arun

32GB=sufficient storage?

Self explanatory title (note I'm asking "sufficient", not "enough")
How are you guys finding the onboard storage situation w/ your 32GB models? I'm unclear how much use the SDcard would be. Sure, you can point your camera + Spotify cache to the SDcard instead but just looking at my iphone 6, I would still have need another 17-18GB to cover other apps and their data (this is w/o a silly amount of games). I know you can move some apps from onboard storage to your SDcard, how do you find the performance difference?
A bit bummed over SG's seemingly shortsighted decision to limit most global markets to the 32GB variant. From what I've seen online and with a few demo units, actual free usable storage comes in around 14-16GB, which is fairly pitiful. If Android "only" uses 8GB, where's the extra? Is TW and other add in that large?
NB: I posted the same question in the S7 Edge forum, but I'm curious what the regular S7 community thinks about this topic

I guess 32gb is pretty enough and do the job very well , but 64gb is the perfect storage in my opinion.

ngmic said:
From what I've seen online and with a few demo units, actual free usable storage comes in around 14-16GB, which is fairly pitiful. If Android "only" uses 8GB, where's the extra? Is TW and other add in that large?
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That news story is bs, theres around 24gb of free space on the s7.

peachpuff said:
That news story is bs, theres around 24gb of free space on the s7.
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is that what you see from your unit? great news if that's the case, that extra 6-8gb is huge

Min for me is 64gb

peachpuff said:
That news story is bs, theres around 24gb of free space on the s7.
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That story was so misleading to most ppl, the guy who showed that screenshot had 16gb free after he installed his own apps, now ppl think it only has 16gb free out of the box !

Yeah, it's frustrating how the tech media scaremongered that false info around. Storage out the box is ~24GB for US carrier versions (8.08GB taken by Android System) and ~25GB for unlocked models (7.27GB taken by Android System).
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With microSD that's easy, I could get by with 16GB no problem.

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With microSD that's easy, I could get by with 16GB no problem.
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I had 16GB on my S5 with a 128GB µSD, but the 16GB internal memory was really an issue since moving apps to the SD card is not always working as it should (I had to use FolderMount to solve my issues, but I'd like to avoid having to find workarounds like that).
32GB should be ok though.

ngmic said:
is that what you see from your unit? great news if that's the case, that extra 6-8gb is huge
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No i don't have mine yet, im just good at math, 32-8=24

I had 64Gb on my S6, and barely made it to 10gb of apps. 24 gb for apps/data is no problem I would think since you can save music/photos to the SD card.
Every phone that I've had SD card on has always been 16gb or 32gb phone an I've never needed anymore than that.

I've moved all my games to my SD card and performance is fine for those type of things.

For me 32 (24) GB is definitely not enough..
I want the 64gb version at a minimum.

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No i don't have mine yet, im just good at math, 32-8=24
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haha right. the demo unit i played with also had 16GB free, but i couldn't tell how much of that was demo-related bloat

UK Exynos S7 = 7.27GB System Memory
Leaving ~24.5GB available.

The only thing on my phones which begin to hit storage problems were Titainum backups along with my podcast library. Everything else would probably fit in less than 10 gb, and that includes hearthstone.

AppMgr III and a 64gb sd card works for me just fine. Of course AppMgr III can no longer clean the cache all at once. It wants you to go to the storage settings for each app and empty the cache.