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Any drawbacks with the 16GB model?

Guys,
I'm looking to get a 10.1 Note to replace my TF201 32GB model.
Trouble is here in the UK the only configuration is the 16GB model.
As such I am concerned what with software ever growing at an alarming rate it won't take long before that internal memory is full.
Therefore, I'm coming to those who already have the 16GB model to ask "have any of you found any drawbacks with the 16GB Note 10.1"?

16GB = 11+GB in user available storage
Beards said:
Guys,
I'm looking to get a 10.1 Note to replace my TF201 32GB model.
Trouble is here in the UK the only configuration is the 16GB model.
As such I am concerned what with software ever growing at an alarming rate it won't take long before that internal memory is full.
Therefore, I'm coming to those who already have the 16GB model to ask "have any of you found any drawbacks with the 16GB Note 10.1"?
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I had a 16GB, and switched it out for 32GB within 30 days. I had no problems with it per se-- it worked great.
But I was alarmed that Android OS and Samsung features/bloatware took up more than 25% of that 16GB! The available storage at first boot was 11+GB.
If you are comfortable with using a micro-SD card to hold your data and apps, then the 16GB is probably fine. I prefer to keep my apps installed on the device itself when possible for those occasions when I swap the SD card out for one reason or another. So for me, 32 GB (OK, 28+ available GB) was better than 11+GB.
JC

Nope, no problem whatsoever with the 16GB version. It'll be quite hard to fill up the space with apps, movies and music are more likely. But yes, you can just get microsd card if you need more than 16gb. I'm using one, SanDisk 32gb microsd that I got from amazon when they had a huge offer on it and it works great.
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Some Apps have an additional data storage of over a GB each.
Surely this data gets stored in the internal 16GB and not the external MicroSD card.
That being the case for storage of your Apps additional data files, the MicroSD doesn't come into play.
I use my MicroSD card purely for non data files, as in music, movies and work related files.
Therefore with only a portion available from the initial 16GB and with one App's data files of whom may require many hundreds of MB'S for storage it's not going to be long before the internal space is full.

Beards said:
Guys,
I'm looking to get a 10.1 Note to replace my TF201 32GB model.
Trouble is here in the UK the only configuration is the 16GB model.
As such I am concerned what with software ever growing at an alarming rate it won't take long before that internal memory is full.
Therefore, I'm coming to those who already have the 16GB model to ask "have any of you found any drawbacks with the 16GB Note 10.1"?
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None at all
And if you are worried about space see this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31774375&postcount=6
You can actually store anything on the microsd card, including ALL and any app data

hairdewx said:
None at all
And if you are worried about space see this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31774375&postcount=6
You can actually store anything on the microsd card, including ALL and any app data
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Thanks... but that does require root and it will be something I will not be able to carry out given my IT department will effectively be looking after my Tablet.

No drawbacks really other than the lower storage space. I had a white 16gb at first. After installing my apps and alot of games, I saw my storage space dwindling. So I returned it and got a 32gb. Now if you not a heavy gamer, you should be fine with 16gb. There are few apps that I know of that uses tons of storage space. Only one that comes to mind is. Google Earth. With microsd card, you could store all of your movies, pictures, music, etc... on it.
I wonder why they limiting the UK to only 16gb. Is there no other place that'll deliver a 32gb there?
If I remwber right, out of 16gb, only like 11-12 or so gb is available to use. The OS uses up remaining space. Games are the only ones that can easily be 1-2gb total. Good luck deciding. This Note 10.1 is an excellent device. My first Samsung tablet. More than exceeded my expectations. It works great out the box. Plus its specs is telly good also. Samsung quadcore Exynos4 and 2gb of ram & S-pen.

All good here! I'm not rooted, and with plenty of apps installed, 10.9 free space. I route all apps output, pic, vids etc to my extSdCard that I can.
That will save a tremendous amount of space.
Remember...
CASH is good...
but
CACHE KILLS...
Clean your cache, at minimum Every two weeks.

demandarin said:
No drawbacks really other than the lower storage space. I had a white 16gb at first. After installing my apps and alot of games, I saw my storage space dwindling. So I returned it and got a 32gb. Now if you not a heavy gamer, you should be fine with 16gb. There are few apps that I know of that uses tons of storage space. Only one that comes to mind is. Google Earth. With microsd card, you could store all of your movies, pictures, music, etc... on it.
I wonder why they limiting the UK to only 16gb. Is there no other place that'll deliver a 32gb there?
If I remwber right, out of 16gb, only like 11-12 or so gb is available to use. The OS uses up remaining space. Games are the only ones that can easily be 1-2gb total. Good luck deciding. This Note 10.1 is an excellent device. My first Samsung tablet. More than exceeded my expectations. It works great out the box. Plus its specs is telly good also. Samsung quadcore Exynos4 and 2gb of ram & S-pen.
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Hi demandarin, nice to catch you over here.
Even though I am not a heavy gamer I do have a number of business Apps that consume huge amounts of additional data which none can be moved to the external sd card unfortunately (and no I can not root ~ without having an argument with my IT team). So yes that 11GB remaining does concern me.
Samsung do this to us each time be it a phone or tablet.... They tend to put the 16GB models to SIM free, 32GB models to carriers and the 64GB just don't make it over here.
GalaxyBill said:
All good here! I'm not rooted, and with plenty of apps installed, 10.9 free space. I route all apps output, pic, vids etc to my extSdCard that I can.
That will save a tremendous amount of space.
Remember...
CASH is good...
but
CACHE KILLS...
Clean your cache, at minimum Every two weeks.
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You are fortunate in being able to root.... I would jump to it were it not for my IT team.
That's the problem, I save my hospital some money by placing it under their control and this is one of the hurdles you come under.
As to caching, yes totally agree...... I do it all the time on my 16GB Nexus 7 which is always a pain in keeping those MB's free.

Beards said:
Trouble is here in the UK the only configuration is the 16GB model.
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32GB grey is coming... i have to wait another month for mine from very. though nearly 2 months after launch is a f*ck*ng joke
Beards said:
I can not root ~ without having an argument with my IT team
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i take it you haven't actually asked them? just avoid asking the "we are the supreme race" thinking IT guy and you might be pleasantly surprised!!

dhd1802 said:
32GB grey is coming... i have to wait another month for mine from very. though nearly 2 months after launch is a f*ck*ng joke
i take it you haven't actually asked them? just avoid asking the "we are the supreme race" thinking IT guy and you might be pleasantly surprised!!
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I emailed Very just out of curiosity and they said October but to be frank I do not trust them.
Re my IT team, I don't need to speak with my hospital IT team. I know precisely what the situation is.

No issues here. Even with NOVA 3 and MC3 and a few smaller games I have roughly 4 GBs left.
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[Q] Amount of internal storage available for installing apps

Hi all,
Does anyone know how much internal memory is available for installing apps? I know the Note 10.1 comes with 16GB or 32GB of internal storage, but how much of the storage can I use for apps? The reason I'm asking is because recently, I keep getting messages on my Galaxy S2 phone about low memory (only ~200MB free) when installing new apps. And I don't even have that many apps installed. Apparently, there's only 2GB for apps and 11.5GB for storing files like MP3s and videos. I assume the remaining 2.5GB is used for the OS and other internal apps.
Given that this is a tablet, I would expect there to be more than 2GB of memory for apps, especially for the 32GB version. It would be disappointing if that's not the case.
Thank you.

lancer6238 said:
Hi all,
Does anyone know how much internal memory is available for installing apps? I know the Note 10.1 comes with 16GB or 32GB of internal storage, but how much of the storage can I use for apps? The reason I'm asking is because recently, I keep getting messages on my Galaxy S2 phone about low memory (only ~200MB free) when installing new apps. And I don't even have that many apps installed. Apparently, there's only 2GB for apps and 11.5GB for storing files like MP3s and videos. I assume the remaining 2.5GB is used for the OS and other internal apps.
Given that this is a tablet, I would expect there to be more than 2GB of memory for apps, especially for the 32GB version. It would be disappointing if that's not the case.
Thank you.
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Whichever version you got is the amount of space you had.. 16gb =14.9gb/ 32gb=29.7gb
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txtmikhail said:
Whichever version you got is the amount of space you had.. 16gb =14.9gb/ 32gb=29.7gb
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So it's different from the Galaxy S2 phones? Any idea why that is?

The s2 as 16gb of memory but this is how it works....
16gb=14.7gb
App memory=2gb
Internal sdcard=11.5gb
Samsung split the memory into 2 parts.. Their newer devices share the whole memory..
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Thanks!

I hope you got the 32gb though, 16 gb seems to run out oh so very quickly unless you use the external/internal memory swap mod and have a 64gb sd card...

ultramag69 said:
I hope you got the 32gb though, 16 gb seems to run out oh so very quickly unless you use the external/internal memory swap mod and have a 64gb sd card...
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It all depends on what u do with the tablet.. I have 16gb version.. I have 32gb sdard .. On tablet 3gb of data use And sdcard I have 11gb used.. I have more space than I need.. I use the cloud mostly thats why.. And I don't really play games.. Just got a few basic games.. I Leave the hardcore games to the xbox
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ultramag69 said:
I hope you got the 32gb though, 16 gb seems to run out oh so very quickly unless you use the external/internal memory swap mod and have a 64gb sd card...
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Yup, I got the 32GB one. I'll mostly be using it for videos and a few games, and I thought it's better to be safe and buy the bigger capacity one.

fukin retarded
i have legit fukin question but i have to come to this bull**** which btw has NOTHING in regards to the issue im having or rom im usin to post 10 so i can go back and ask........smfh

Is there a way to change the space allocation, ie. Give more than 2gb to apps.
Thanks
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[Q] How to use extSD as main storage? P3100

Not to long ago we got a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 for our son, model P3100. We made a big mistake by going for the 8GB version as out of the 8GB only 4GB is usable. We bought and installed 2 large games and the space is pretty much full. We thought an extSD card would solve the issue and so we got an additional 16GB card. Unfortunately Samsung consists of a bunch of morons... Kind of disappointing after being a huge fan of them.
Can anyone guide me or give advice on what can be done? I was hoping to somehow use the extSD card to store the games...
The device is not rooted.

rand0mdud3 said:
Not to long ago we got a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 for our son, model P3100. We made a big mistake by going for the 8GB version as out of the 8GB only 4GB is usable. We bought and installed 2 large games and the space is pretty much full. We thought an extSD card would solve the issue and so we got an additional 16GB card. Unfortunately Samsung consists of a bunch of morons... Kind of disappointing after being a huge fan of them.
Can anyone guide me or give advice on what can be done? I was hoping to somehow use the extSD card to store the games...
The device is not rooted.
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the device needs to be rooted first of...
I use this ....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961097

rand0mdud3 said:
Not to long ago we got a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 for our son, model P3100. We made a big mistake by going for the 8GB version as out of the 8GB only 4GB is usable. We bought and installed 2 large games and the space is pretty much full. We thought an extSD card would solve the issue and so we got an additional 16GB card. Unfortunately Samsung consists of a bunch of morons... Kind of disappointing after being a huge fan of them.
Can anyone guide me or give advice on what can be done? I was hoping to somehow use the extSD card to store the games...
The device is not rooted.
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I really do not think it is Samsung's fault. Google doesn't much care for external storage, and it shows in their newer os'es. Samsung and others have stated that it is Google's doing.
http://www.sebertech.com/helpline/samsung-galaxy-note-2/2013022311525.html
Not the ref. I was looking for, but a little on the subject.
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Swap External and Internal Memory
Hi everyone
I have a similar problem.
I use a P 3100 running stock firmware 4.1.2/ stock kernel/ Rooted
Need to swap External to Internal
Problems
App1 : Swap External to Internal by codlab - Has anyone tested this
App2 : GL 2 SD - It works for games, what about other apps with huge memory consumption? I use a lot of medical apps with frequent updates
Method1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2182928
Does this work for stock kernel's too using the same steps?
Please Advice
Thanks
Arun

16gb version only available

I've been looking around through Sprint's community forums and see that they will not be offering the 32gb option, just the 16gb. I was really hoping to upgrade my S3 with the S5, but I'm already running out of room and I would really like the option for more space. Does anyone know if there's a way to free up the usable internal space or get Android to allow apps to work better off the SD card?
Thanks

It can't be apps that are taking up all your space, buy a class 10 64 gb like I have and just move all your pictures and music on it... I never notice it being slow or non responsive for the movies or music I play off it. I preordered my s5 a few days ago and i am not going to worry about space.
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There has been some hint that 32GB might be offered later in the Sprint Community at the official Sprint website. The customer care people have posted "watch the news feed for updates". In the mean time sign the petition http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/sprintgs532gb

If it even comes, it will be much later
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Move your picture and video folder that's what eat your memory. I play alot of game and have a 64 gig sd card that keep things running.
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bonebeatz1234 said:
Move your picture and video folder that's what eat your memory. I play alot of game and have a 64 gig sd card that keep things running.
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Yesterday I wiped my s3 and loaded CM11. That freed up a ton of space, but I'm not really sure what originally took up all the space. I can only guess it was the ROM that I had before. I have always had my pictures on my SD card and don't take video.
I just bought a 64gb SD card and that could help. I would like to have the onboard memory, though.

crzy619 said:
...64 GB...
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The S5 also supports new 128 GB micro-SDs. Pretty awesome, I think. I don't know if app2sd is still supported, though.

greogory said:
The S5 also supports new 128 GB micro-SDs. Pretty awesome, I think. I don't know if app2sd is still supported, though.
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yes it is still supported
however, if you want the "extreme" or "extreme plus" micro SD card from sandisc, the biggest is 64gb that is available currently

eyecon82 said:
yes it is still supported
however, if you want the "extreme" or "extreme plus" micro SD card from sandisc, the biggest is 64gb that is available currently
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For now...
And anyway, it's just a pipe dream for me, because I can't afford the fast 64, let alone a slow 128.

I have the extreme plus version and it's amazingly fast. Gallery loads in an instant versus the ultra model
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32GB=sufficient storage?

Self explanatory title (note I'm asking "sufficient", not "enough")
How are you guys finding the onboard storage situation w/ your 32GB models? I'm unclear how much use the SDcard would be. Sure, you can point your camera + Spotify cache to the SDcard instead but just looking at my iphone 6, I would still have need another 17-18GB to cover other apps and their data (this is w/o a silly amount of games). I know you can move some apps from onboard storage to your SDcard, how do you find the performance difference?
A bit bummed over SG's seemingly shortsighted decision to limit most global markets to the 32GB variant. From what I've seen online and with a few demo units, actual free usable storage comes in around 14-16GB, which is fairly pitiful. If Android "only" uses 8GB, where's the extra? Is TW and other add in that large?
NB: I posted the same question in the S7 Edge forum, but I'm curious what the regular S7 community thinks about this topic

I guess 32gb is pretty enough and do the job very well , but 64gb is the perfect storage in my opinion.

ngmic said:
From what I've seen online and with a few demo units, actual free usable storage comes in around 14-16GB, which is fairly pitiful. If Android "only" uses 8GB, where's the extra? Is TW and other add in that large?
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That news story is bs, theres around 24gb of free space on the s7.

peachpuff said:
That news story is bs, theres around 24gb of free space on the s7.
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is that what you see from your unit? great news if that's the case, that extra 6-8gb is huge

Min for me is 64gb

peachpuff said:
That news story is bs, theres around 24gb of free space on the s7.
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That story was so misleading to most ppl, the guy who showed that screenshot had 16gb free after he installed his own apps, now ppl think it only has 16gb free out of the box !

Yeah, it's frustrating how the tech media scaremongered that false info around. Storage out the box is ~24GB for US carrier versions (8.08GB taken by Android System) and ~25GB for unlocked models (7.27GB taken by Android System).
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With microSD that's easy, I could get by with 16GB no problem.

wifesabitch said:
With microSD that's easy, I could get by with 16GB no problem.
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I had 16GB on my S5 with a 128GB µSD, but the 16GB internal memory was really an issue since moving apps to the SD card is not always working as it should (I had to use FolderMount to solve my issues, but I'd like to avoid having to find workarounds like that).
32GB should be ok though.

ngmic said:
is that what you see from your unit? great news if that's the case, that extra 6-8gb is huge
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No i don't have mine yet, im just good at math, 32-8=24

I had 64Gb on my S6, and barely made it to 10gb of apps. 24 gb for apps/data is no problem I would think since you can save music/photos to the SD card.
Every phone that I've had SD card on has always been 16gb or 32gb phone an I've never needed anymore than that.

I've moved all my games to my SD card and performance is fine for those type of things.

For me 32 (24) GB is definitely not enough..
I want the 64gb version at a minimum.

peachpuff said:
No i don't have mine yet, im just good at math, 32-8=24
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haha right. the demo unit i played with also had 16GB free, but i couldn't tell how much of that was demo-related bloat

UK Exynos S7 = 7.27GB System Memory
Leaving ~24.5GB available.

The only thing on my phones which begin to hit storage problems were Titainum backups along with my podcast library. Everything else would probably fit in less than 10 gb, and that includes hearthstone.

AppMgr III and a 64gb sd card works for me just fine. Of course AppMgr III can no longer clean the cache all at once. It wants you to go to the storage settings for each app and empty the cache.