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[Q] Inspire Root (re-root perhaps)

Problems As of Right Now:
Rooted my phone using bubbys (worked out fine)
Tried to install ROM for Gingerbread 2.3 as seen on many youtube tutorials
Not Working
Am I putting the ROMs on my SD card wrong? Should I reroot the phone again using a different program (tried using the xda first but my computer wouldnt let me even after I turned off firewall and anti virus.) I dont know what I should do but tonight is about to be my 2nd sleepless night until i figure it out..Thanks very much for any help!!
--Nikki<3

Are you able to boot into H-boot to see if you have s-off?
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Yes I just checked and it said that the S-OFF
and well i just tried to go into titanium back up right before i read your reply and its saying that root failed and then i checked super user and its saying that i need to upgrade and when i do its telling me that theres a signature error...
these are all conflicting ideas to me. any other kind of root that i can try besides the bubbys cause i really really want to use the gingerbread rom and sense 3.0
youre the best for replying and sorry about all the missing punctuations im typing really fast and i dont care about that just need some answers.. Thanks!!!
--Nikki<3

Since you have s-off, you should be able to flash a rom. Considering you are having issues, I would try flashing the stock rom thru h-boot first. Search the dev section for attn1's Ace_Cingular_US rom. Rename the file if needed and place it on the root of the sd card. Turn of fastboot in the settings menu of your device and restart in h-boot. Make sure there are no other such zip files on the sd card. When h-boot finds the file, it should prompt you start the flashing of the rom and radio.
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You are wonderful! Thanks so much for the help...The only person in 2 days to help with any advice... ^_^
--Nikki<3

WELL.........
I did what you said and now my phone is in an infinite loop of start HTC screen and off........its upsetting really...hahah
oii I have a headache

Did you do a wipe?
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Have you read the sticky (or is it stuck?) Rooting Guide in the General thread of the Inspire forums? The link is below. Look 1/3 of the way down at General Fixes (recovering from soft brick).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033353

Yes I did,,,,,
I dont know anymore...ugh ... i thought this would be a little simpler for me. i guess not..I'll keep trying

Don't worry overmuch as I have had issues too, although I was successful in the past on another device. From my research, if you can boot at all, you will be fine. Just takes some research and maybe some help from some Senior Devs .

can u boot into clockwork mod recovery, by holding volume down and power?
The reason i ask is im not sure if this can be done in hboot, but here is what i would like you to try. From the dev section go to leedroids 4g V3.03.0 GB thread and download the EXT4 wipe and his latest rom (((only using his, because the wipe and rom work together nicely, you can flash anything you want later))) after downloading both, transfer to the root of your sdcard. Then using CWM (if possible) flash the wipe first and then the rom without rebooting (again if possible.)

i cant find the thread youre talking about....it wont let me search for leedroid either
idk

Nikki0418 said:
i cant find the thread youre talking about....it wont let me search for leedroid either
idk
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Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065527&highlight=Leedroid
I feel your pain...when I rooted my Inspire it did not go smooth at all, slightly smoother than you evidently...if the phone can boot at all there is likely a way to recover...
EDit: That said, I now think I have about the most rockin phone within at least a 15 mile radius. I absolutely love it...but it has taken some work, and a few moments of anxiety when things didn't quite go smoothly at first

Nikki0418 said:
WELL.........
I did what you said and now my phone is in an infinite loop of start HTC screen and off........its upsetting really...hahah
oii I have a headache
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Sounds like a soft brick. Possibly a bad flash, possibly from a bad download. Did you check the integrity of the download, md5sum? You want to do that and make sure you have no other pd98img.zip file on the sd card. Do as suggested, go to the sticky and follow the instructions for recovering from a soft brick.
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OK
Now that everyone has babied this poor sad little girl through the softbrick rooting step, I need one more piece of advice
I went to sleep last night after a victory dance: rooted phone, great Gingerbread and sense 3.0 etc etc
Put phone on charger --zzzzzz-- wake up and take it off charger and after more than 8hrs on wall charger battery is only 50%%!!! WTFF i've been up for a little while now and its at 38% with me not even touching it or doing anything on it..is there a rom or something that can extent battery life...is there a scan i can to to see if theres a different problem? I read that people have good battery life with LeeDrOiD IDK
Again thank you very much!!
--Nikki<3

alright tonight i'm gonna need you people to use your think boxes...web pages won't load even though my wifi is full bars....my att network isnt saying how the connection is (i.e. 3G, H+ etc) no indication
twitter keeps jamming up. htc sense keeps force closing....theres a lot of things i like on this rom but jeezzz way too many problems....everyone helping is awesome and i wuv you guys......hope to see some replies when i get back from work...thanks!!!
--Nikki<33

Did you flash a radio? The hack kit left me with a nasty radio. Upgrading to the latest radio made a difference. Post which radio you have, settings > about phone > software information > baseband version. Visit the Leedroid thread and see which radios are recommended. It is also possible it may have been a bad flash. In which case, you would need to wipe and flash again.
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it could be the rom, which one do you have installed now??? I noticed the best battery life with two pump chumps recook of the stock rom >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982963 , but for best overall look and feel i like leedroids gingerbead rom, that i posted earlier (however battery life is an issue with any GB rom). Its really just up to and what you will be doing as to whats best for you. Just try a few or try them all till you find what you like. Its also worth noting that CM7 seems to have the best battery life of any, but its an entirely different look. I personally hate it, but you may not.

Nikki0418 said:
OK
Now that everyone has babied this poor sad little girl through the softbrick rooting step, I need one more piece of advice
I went to sleep last night after a victory dance: rooted phone, great Gingerbread and sense 3.0 etc etc
Put phone on charger --zzzzzz-- wake up and take it off charger and after more than 8hrs on wall charger battery is only 50%%!!! WTFF i've been up for a little while now and its at 38% with me not even touching it or doing anything on it..is there a rom or something that can extent battery life...is there a scan i can to to see if theres a different problem? I read that people have good battery life with LeeDrOiD IDK
Again thank you very much!!
--Nikki<3
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There is an Android bug that puts the phone in a permanent wake state even when the screen is off, phone idle, etc. It happens after a phone call. Rebooting fixes it. this bug is identified by the Dialer taking up inordinate battery usage in the battery stats. It would be really coincidental if that happened to you right after flashing though...just a thought.

@fernadezhjr the Baseband version I have on here is 12.39.60.19U_26.06.04.06_M
I don't know what that means so *shrugs* haven't tried to Flash a new radio. I have a rom for one but i've done a lot to my phone so idk lol.......if you know where i can get a trustworthy rom for sure for the LeeDroid root.
@bermatides(sorry if i spelled wrong i only glanced at name) I have the [ROM]LeeDrOiD HD V3.3.0 GB [KERNEL]V3.2.0 >EPIC!< 6th July | HTC GB | OTA | CRT TV
I downloaded it from here from his personal profile off his posts. I dont know how corrupt it could be...everything is working fine. My wifi is just slow even with all the bars. and its not so much that my phone isnt charging (which i thought) its the wall charger that isnt charging my phone. it charges in the car and on the computer. but won't charge in the wall.....the little lightning bolt comes on and shows charging in action but the battery percentage goes lower and lower the longer its "charging" then kaput .........

Thank you to the developers of MR3

I wanted to thank the developers of MR3 in this thread. Liquid, Jester, etc.
I'm a long time lurker of this forum since I got my Thunderbolt. I'm VERY VERY appreciative of the developers for creating a very functional ICS rom for the Thunderbolt. Shame on HTC and Verizon for sandbagging so long with what should be a very simple upgrade for them. I was running Thundershed for awhile but grew tired of the Gingerbread look and feel of Android. My friends all mostly have newer phones with ICS, and I couldn't believe that it was supposed to be out in August and it's now mid-October and it's still not out.
To my surprise, I log on to here and see that an ICS ROM had been released.
My only issues with this ROM are random restarts and the white screen error in Facebook/Gmail/etc. I don't really use the video camera much in general; could you use an aftermarket app, or is it broken period?
Otherwise, I absolutely LOVE this and will never go back to Verizon's bloated software. Even when an OTA is released with ICS I won't go back. My phone is running much faster and much better than with Sense and Gingerbread. With data off I had a 10% decrease in battery in 7 hours; with data on and normal use I'll get maybe 5 hours out of a charge on this ROM. About normal for this phone and it's absolutely terrible battery life with the stock battery.
I have it overclocked to 1.5ghz running interactiveX as my governor. It runs beautifully, other than those two minor issues I pointed out above. I haven't experienced any data drops or anything out of the sort like that.

vashts80 said:
I wanted to thank the developers of MR3 in this thread. Liquid, Jester, etc.
I'm a long time lurker of this forum since I got my Thunderbolt. I'm VERY VERY appreciative of the developers for creating a very functional ICS rom for the Thunderbolt. Shame on HTC and Verizon for sandbagging so long with what should be a very simple upgrade for them. I was running Thundershed for awhile but grew tired of the Gingerbread look and feel of Android. My friends all mostly have newer phones with ICS, and I couldn't believe that it was supposed to be out in August and it's now mid-October and it's still not out.
To my surprise, I log on to here and see that an ICS ROM had been released.
My only issues with this ROM are random restarts and the white screen error in Facebook/Gmail/etc. I don't really use the video camera much in general; could you use an aftermarket app, or is it broken period?
Otherwise, I absolutely LOVE this and will never go back to Verizon's bloated software. Even when an OTA is released with ICS I won't go back. My phone is running much faster and much better than with Sense and Gingerbread. With data off I had a 10% decrease in battery in 7 hours; with data on and normal use I'll get maybe 5 hours out of a charge on this ROM. About normal for this phone and it's absolutely terrible battery life with the stock battery.
I have it overclocked to 1.5ghz running interactiveX as my governor. It runs beautifully, other than those two minor issues I pointed out above. I haven't experienced any data drops or anything out of the sort like that.
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I second this thread.
A major thanks goes out to all of you who develop, in any way, for the Thunderbolt community. This even includes testers.
To answer your questions...
The video and front camera are broken even with an aftermarket app and will remain broken, most likely, until Verizon releases the OTA. From the OTA, our awesome developers will then be able to fix camera issues and many other issues that will make their ROM's 100% stable.
Also, if you get random reboots, you may want to flash to a different radio.
If you are currently running the OTA radios from the 2.11.605.19 software and still get these reboots, try flashing the combo radio and hopefully the reboots will vanish or, at least, happen less often.
If you go to your settings, about phone, software information, more, and look at the baseband version...
If the numbers you see are:
1.49.00.0406w_1, 0.01.79.0331w_1
Then you are on the OTA 2.11.605.19 radios, which is my recommendation for the radios to use with this ROM. If these are the radio numbers you see, try the combo radio. If the numbers you see under your phones baseband version is not:
1.49.00.0406w_1, 0.01.79.0331w_1
Then it may be:
1.48.00.0930w_3, 0.01.78.0916w_3
If it is:
1.48.00.0930w_3, 0.01.78.0916w_3
Try flashing the 2.11.605.19 OTA radios found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605557
If you have the 2.11.605.19 radios, though, try flashing the combo radio found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1864157
If you aren't sure how to flash a radio, here's a video tutorial for you to follow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu-KLjHGGhc&sns=em
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Definitely want to ditto this thread. Thanks for continuing to support the Thunderbolt. I was on the verge of retiring the Thunderbolt. ICS has brought new the Tbolt new life though!

thanks for the links. I'm going to try upgrading tonight and see if that helps. I notice you flash the radio in hboot. If I do a nandroid backup, does it also backup the radio (so I can restore it)? Or if I **** up, will it be permanently bricked?

Ditto to all that has been said. Thank You to all who made this happen, including HTC and Verizon. Their inaction drove me to decide to root and find alternatives. I've been incredibly pleased with MR3.
Thanks all!
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vashts80 said:
thanks for the links. I'm going to try upgrading tonight and see if that helps. I notice you flash the radio in hboot. If I do a nandroid backup, does it also backup the radio (so I can restore it)? Or if I **** up, will it be permanently bricked?
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If you backup that ROM after flashing the radio, it will back up the ROM. Hboot is a whole different thing than the recovery. That radio is downloaded to the phone and will automatically run on any ROM after its downloaded, even if you start from scratch. But flashing any of those two radios will not brick you on any ROM. Worst case being you won't have signal or data until you flash different radios again.
Say if you upgraded to the newer radios, and then you flash a ROM based on an older software version, you won't brick. In fact, you may not ever experience any issues. Maybe just signal changes or random signal drops.
But no, it won't brick you. It's almost impossible to brick a Thunderbolt.
I recommend after flashing the new radios, immediately go and either change the name from PG05IMG to something custom, move into a different folder that's off of the root of the SD card, or just delete it once flashed.
This is for in a such case where you need to get back into recovery from hboot, it won't prompt you to install the radio again. Because if you had to get into recovery from hboot, it wouldn't allow you to since it runs a check for the PG05IMG files first... and with that being said... I was always told to never flash the same radio twice without changing to a new one first.
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i dont' see why these ROMs get so much acclaim... when i tried LiquidSmooth it wouldn't stay connected to the Internet. tried to toggle wifi and 3G/4G. nothing works and i have to reboot the phone every time i want to use the Internet.
Liquid MR3: the setup crashed and now the ROM won't even come all the way up...
unless my phone's broken or something (going to Verizon tomorrow to reflash and check it), i say they're both absolute garbage. i've had much better luck with ROMs on other phones.

moonlightcheese said:
i dont' see why these ROMs get so much acclaim... when i tried LiquidSmooth it wouldn't stay connected to the Internet. tried to toggle wifi and 3G/4G. nothing works and i have to reboot the phone every time i want to use the Internet.
Liquid MR3: the setup crashed and now the ROM won't even come all the way up...
unless my phone's broken or something (going to Verizon tomorrow to reflash and check it), i say they're both absolute garbage. i've had much better luck with ROMs on other phones.
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Did you try a different radio and redownload? The first shot isnt always the right one....

trter10 said:
Did you try a different radio and redownload? The first shot isnt always the right one....
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whelp... as you can see from my post number, i'm not exactly the most well-versed member around. idk what that means. any reading you can point me to or explanation?

moonlightcheese said:
whelp... as you can see from my post number, i'm not exactly the most well-versed member around. idk what that means. any reading you can point me to or explanation?
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Back up 9 posts and you'll see a link to a video tutorial on how to flash a different radio. You'll even see 2 links to 2 different radios to flash and try.
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RBarnett09 said:
Back up 9 posts and you'll see a link to a video tutorial on how to flash a different radio. You'll even see 2 links to 2 different radios to flash and try.
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well i reflashed Liquid this morning and it didn't crash this time, connected fine via wifi and setup completed properly.
all of my radio issues were on the old version (not sure if there's a difference in radios or whatnot), but if it acts up again i will try your recommendations. thanks a lot.
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moonlightcheese said:
well i reflashed Liquid this morning and it didn't crash this time, connected fine via wifi and setup completed properly.
all of my radio issues were on the old version (not sure if there's a difference in radios or whatnot), but if it acts up again i will try your recommendations. thanks a lot.
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ah i see what happened now.
the first time i flashed it, i cleared /data after the flash before i brought the OS up, but you've included the launcher as a user app and not a system app. was this intentional? a user could easily screw up by uninstalling the launcher and have no way to interact with the OS. shouldn't there be a default launcher embedded in the system programs?
i'm an Android dev, but my understanding of system development is limited, but if i'm not mistaken, any Android ROM should come with a default launcher that is not uninstallable and has no icon as a backup launcher just in case.

He did install it that way so if the user wants to install their own launcher and remove the default. Its simple to make the new one a system app. All that has to be done is move the apk to /system and it is uninstallable.
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Any reliable JB roms?

Are there any JB roms that, coupled with a custom kernal, are reliable enough for a serious daily driver? Every one I've tried is plagued with force stops, lockups, boot loops or are just generally unreliable. Anyone?

Every jb Rom is very reliable ..if you're getting bootloops and force closes and all that you're doing something wrong ...full wipe system and data each time you flash a new Rom ...but it's on your part if these roms don't seem reliable

Wrong. Factory wipes every time. Doing nothing different than with any other ICS rom.
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What Hboot are you running?
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beankid said:
What Hboot are you running?
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1.09

I'm looking for a rom that will be "business" reliable. I don't game or change roms as a hobby. I need something that can handle 40-50 phone calls, 15-20 voice mails, 50-75 emails and several texts a day without rebooting, locking up or force closings. Also, its important that Maps and Navigation work reliably and that internet works smoothly. I'm not the only one having problems with JB roms as there are numerous threads with problems others are experiencing. If I'm "doing it wrong" then how about some suggestions as to what to try. beankid, thank you for at least asking a pertinent question, without the usual smarmy [email protected]@ed comment.

gpo1956 said:
I'm looking for a rom that will be "business" reliable. I don't game or change roms as a hobby. I need something that can handle 40-50 phone calls, 15-20 voice mails, 50-75 emails and several texts a day without rebooting, locking up or force closings. Also, its important that Maps and Navigation work reliably and that internet works smoothly. I'm not the only one having problems with JB roms as there are numerous threads with problems others are experiencing. If I'm "doing it wrong" then how about some suggestions as to what to try. beankid, thank you for at least asking a pertinent question, without the usual smarmy [email protected]@ed comment.
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How about going into more detail? "bootloop" doesn't tell me much. And saying "Wrong. Doesn't work" isn't going to get you a lot of help either.
Wipe system
Factory Reset (you will have to reinstall apps if you do this)
Wipe Cache
Wipe Dalvik Cache
Flash the ROM
reboot

I haven't gotten a single ROM.out of the scope of sense that has the video function correctly. When I replay videos recorded, there is a high pitched ring. Its on every single aosp ROM.
If that doesn't need to work correctly, you should be good to go.
If you are on new hboot just flash kernel first and wipe caches, and system. Then flash ROM and gapps.
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gpo1956 said:
I'm looking for a rom that will be "business" reliable. I don't game or change roms as a hobby. I need something that can handle 40-50 phone calls, 15-20 voice mails, 50-75 emails and several texts a day without rebooting, locking up or force closings. Also, its important that Maps and Navigation work reliably and that internet works smoothly. I'm not the only one having problems with JB roms as there are numerous threads with problems others are experiencing. If I'm "doing it wrong" then how about some suggestions as to what to try. beankid, thank you for at least asking a pertinent question, without the usual smarmy [email protected]@ed comment.
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If that's really what you need, stick with an ICS rom or go stock. The JB roms are all ported over; there are no Sense JB roms for the One X yet.

absolutelygrim said:
How about going into more detail? "bootloop" doesn't tell me much. And saying "Wrong. Doesn't work" isn't going to get you a lot of help either.
Wipe system
Factory Reset (you will have to reinstall apps if you do this)
Wipe Cache
Wipe Dalvik Cache
Flash the ROM
reboot
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I do all factory resets every time I flash a rom, as I stated above. Wiping cache and dalvik goes without saying. Also, how much more detail would you like? Bootloops, force closes and lockups are pretty self explanatory. I had hoped for more than "but it's on your part if these roms don't seem reliable" or "Wrong. Doing it wrong." Sorry, but I simply cannot validate your self worth by giving you a Thanks for that one.

Stick to stock buddy if your going to have to rely greatly on these things than basically your answering your own question go back to a sense Rom or stock ... Peace

gpo1956 said:
I do all factory resets every time I flash a rom, as I stated above. Wiping cache and dalvik goes without saying. Also, how much more detail would you like? Bootloops, force closes and lockups are pretty self explanatory. I had hoped for more than "but it's on your part if these roms don't seem reliable" or "Wrong. Doing it wrong." Sorry, but I simply cannot validate your self worth by giving you a Thanks for that one.
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adb logcat (which for some reason tells you exactly why you bootloop and force close.. Pretty weird right?)
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I've NO problems with any of the jellybean ROMs
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I agree. I've tried a few and they've been rock solid for me. You're doing something wrong. Goo back to stock.
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gpo1956 said:
Are there any JB roms that, coupled with a custom kernal, are reliable enough for a serious daily driver? Every one I've tried is plagued with force stops, lockups, boot loops or are just generally unreliable. Anyone?
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Are you titanium restoring your apps and data from a sence rom ? If you are that will give you problems, like your saying.
Install all apps fresh and just restore data.

Wow. So all these varied opinions circle back to the simple answer: No, they are not! That's what I needed to know. Thanks.:good:

CM10 would be your best bet, as it's mostly the base for all the others to add further on top of it, so it would stand to reason that CM would be the most stable, and I can confirm that. I'm running CM10 and it's been completely stable for me. No force closes, definitely no bootloops or random reboots. The trouble at the moment on the AOSP JB side is kernels. If you stick with the stock CM10 kernel, you're pretty good. rohan's kernel is the only other kernel to add to that, and it's got some major bugs right now that DO cause bootloops and random reboots.
That said, I think you answer your own question pretty well. If you want a phone that's 100% stable and the best all around ROM for everything, it would be fairly obvious that you'd want to stick to a ROM based off a stock Sense ROM. As with anything, using something that's in development or testing isn't going to be as stable for someone has mission critical needs. The biggest gap between Sense based ICS ROMs and AOSP JB ROMs right now is the battery life. With Sense ROMs I can EASILY get 24 hours at a minimum pretty much, granted that's with less calls than you say you're making. JB is still a little lacking, there I get a full day on average, but a lot of use could lower that. If you use your phone as much as you say, you'd probably want to stick with ICS roms with better battery life.
The biggest thing is to stay away from kernels with overclocking, undervolting, other governors, etc. While this can provide a nice boost and extra features, and can be fairly stable depending on the kernel, all of those provide big wildcards for system stability, especially OC/UV which entirely depends on how well your specific phone accepts being pushed.
So, are JB ROMs stable? I'd absolutely say yes without hesitation. Are they the right ROMs for you? Probably not.

gpo1956 said:
Wow. So all these varied opinions circle back to the simple answer: No, they are not! That's what I needed to know. Thanks.:good:
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All the opinions circle back to the simple answer that the problem lies with you. Obviously since you refuse to do anything other than complain you should just relock your bootloader and RUU to stock if you want something reliable.
You also refuse to even post a logcat, which proves to me you don't care enough.
And as I said earlier.. It's a magical little tool invented by fairies that tells you exactly what the problem is.
Let me explain this to you.
Are they reliable? Yes.
Can we make the decision for you? NO.
You can be the only person in the world having these problems, doesn't change the fact that the ROMs are amazing and stable.
So instead of coming in here and not taking any advice, take your own advice.. Do what you want to do.

CM10 installed fine without any problems for me.

I run my business from the field and this phone does it all. On average I do about 25 calls and 30or so emails daily. CM10 serves me just fine.
Learn to rom.

[Q] More Education

Hi,
Yes, I'm a noob but I'm a smart noob. I refuse to just "jump" in without having enough knowledge about what is necessary to properly modify my phone (AT&T HOX). I have looked up terms I was unfamiliar with etc and sat and waited patiently reading other people's issues. I like many come from Apple (thankfully I switched away) and jailbreaking was about as easy as it got. So here goes.....
1. I am really most interested (at the time being) in getting rid of the ridiculous apps these phones come plugged up with.
2. I already think the phone is fast (light years faster than any iPhone I owned), so what are some of your (members) opinions on WHY you want to flash a custom rom?
3. Do you have to put a new rom in or once it's rooted can I simply have it "stock" and have the freedom to delete apps that I don't want on the phone?
If I've offended anyone here I apologize. Searching for answers on the Internet sometimes is a joke. I did find this tool in the developer's section and I know I'd start here (already downloaded and looked it over) [TOOL] HTC One X (Evita) All-In-One Toolkit V1.1 [10-28-12] [PERM ROOT][Noob-Proof]
but I feel there is a bit more that I'm missing.
I don't want my hand held but rather to allay any fears of turning my phone into a relic, rather than a useful device. I'm about to graduate with a computer support degree, so some of this real heavy duty stuff isn't exactly taught to us students.
I'd appreciate any advice and help from you all and thanks for having a source filled with so many helpful individuals and information
Thanks in advance,
Jon

This is where you should start (my index thread): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
1) Rooting will enable you to uninstall bloatware.
2) Reasons for flashing custom ROMs are many. Yes, the phone is very fast. But believe it or not, there are some that want to squeeze even more performance out of the device. Custom ROMs will often include tweaks to improve speed, but also memory management (multi-tasking). Some people like the vanilla (no Sense) look of AOSP ROMs. And also AOSP based ROMs feel more fluid in the launcher, as well as some apps run faster. Custom ROMs have some cool features that don't exist on stock: Extended Quick Settings, Advanced Power Menu, Paranoid Android settings, theming support and much more.
3) You can just unlock the bootloader and root without flashing a custom ROM. If you aren't too familiar with flashing custom ROMs, this may in fact be a good place to start. Become familiar with what root gives you, before flashing ROMs.
The all-in-one tool you mentioned is correct if your phone is on the 2.20 firmware. If it happens to be an earlier firmware, use the corresponding root method as indicated in my index.

2. It's like buying a new Dell or HP Laptop. It comes with tons of random crap pre-installed that you don't need. Sure, the computer might already be "fast", but you can always make it faster by uninstalling said apps. However, there are usually tons of them, and they're deeply embedded into the OS. Even if you go into add or remove programs and uninstall all of the apps that they have given you, there's usually still random crap installed... You might want to start fresh - I always do. So, when I buy a laptop the first thing I do is install windows manually and download the newest and updated drivers. Now the machine is fast. :good:
This is the same principle for your phone. This is why people want to install a custom ROM (like CleanROM) that doesn't include any of the carrier crap and is just a fresh, base install.
3. You could, if you really, really wanted keep the AT&T stock ROM on there... but there is no reason to. If you installed something like CleanROM it is already optimized, and you can select what stock carrier apps you want included during the installation. The defaults will leave you almost perfect though... This could be thought of as doing a fresh windows install to remove all that crap they embedded deep into the OS. There are no flashy lights, it is just a base ROM that's optimized for speed, performance, and stability.
So.. there is no reason to use a stock ROM vs CleanROM.

On stock vs. ROM:
I am stock/rooted on my Nexus 7 because it's already vanilla Android, and I haven't seen any need to soup it up.
Stock Sense, on the other hand, has a lot of annoying elements that HTC built into it for various reasons: patent disputes, branding, stability, etc. Most or all of this can and should be removed. One example: You may be used to, in iOS, clicking on links and having apps open up. Stock sense won't do this because Apple sued HTC over it. Removing this limitation is easy. Another is the gimped multitasking that HTC set up to prioritize Sense over everything else. And since Sense is still bloated, this greatly limits multitasking. For the most part, CleanROM is Sense with all this unnecessary crap removed.
I was where you are back in May when I got this thing, and I'm happy as a clam on CleanROM.

ECEXCURSION said:
So.. there is no reason to use a stock ROM vs CleanROM.
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I've actually bounced around from CleanROM, ViperXL and other custom ROMs, as well as stock rooted ROMs. I've spent a good amount of time on Asian and Euro stock ROMs, with bloat frozen (in Titanium, not even removed), and the difference in performance (speed) between these and custom ROMs is negligible, if any. Maybe memory management is better on the custom ROMs, but its never been as much of a peeve to me, as others here.
While its true that the AT&T stock ROM has lots of bloat, and some things stupidly removed (FM radio, flashlight, WiFi tethering), but its really not bad. And the stock ROMs from Asia and Europe are quite good.
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iElvis said:
One example: You may be used to, in iOS, clicking on links and having apps open up. Stock sense won't do this because Apple sued HTC over it.
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Just AT&T stock has the HTCLinkify crap. Links work fine on stock ROMs for any other carrier, AFAIK.

It appears I should simply unlock and root. I like how some are saying do that too "get acquainted" with the process and the feel of moding. I believe that is what I'd like to do first.
So in the tool for 2.20 firmware, twrp is in the data file already from the download? I had to go their site and read about what it was. I just don't want to start off on the wrong foot.
You've all been nice to me, even though I'm a flaming noob to unlocking/rooting. I figure to prevent myself from being stupid later, I should be smart now. Hahaha.
I greatly appreciate all the insight and advice so far.
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redpoint73 said:
IAnd the stock ROMs from Asia and Europe are quite good.
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Which is probably why Scott has based CleanROM off them.

iElvis said:
Which is probably why Scott has based CleanROM off them.
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CleanROM is still on 2.29. There have been a lot of firmware versions since then. Germany and Asia are on 2.4x.
2.29 wasn't bad. But its basically the same as 2.20 stock, just without AT&T's meddling. I wish scrosler would use a newer base (as Turge and Xs have). But it seems his time is divided nowadays.

redpoint73 said:
CleanROM is still on 2.29. There have been a lot of firmware versions since then. Germany and Asia are on 2.4x.
2.29 wasn't bad. But its basically the same as 2.20 stock, just without AT&T's meddling. I wish scrosler would use a newer base (as Turge and Xs have). But it seems his time is divided nowadays.
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He's stated that he's waiting for JB. But yeah, he's developing for about six devices now. We take what we can get.

ToxicWaste said:
It appears I should simply unlock and root. I like how some are saying do that too "get acquainted" with the process and the feel of moding. I believe that is what I'd like to do first.
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Its really up to you in the end. There is no right or wrong answer to "should I flash a custom ROM or not".
I personally spent some time stock rooted on my first Android device (Desire Z) before I became comfortable with what features I wanted in a ROM. So that's probably why I'm recommending to do the same.
The suggestion by others to try CleanROM is certainly not a bad idea, either. As mentioned, its mostly stock, but cleaned up. My point is simply, don't go flashing ROMs just because people tell you "you just gotta do it man". And flashing ROM is not for everyone, either. If you do it, you should do it because it fits your needs and wants. And it sounds like you need some time to decide what those needs and wants actually are.

redpoint73 said:
Its really up to you in the end. There is no right or wrong answer to "should I flash a custom ROM or not".
I personally spent some time stock rooted on my first Android device (Desire Z) before I became comfortable with what features I wanted in a ROM. So that's probably why I'm recommending to do the same.
The suggestion by others to try CleanROM is certainly not a bad idea, either. As mentioned, its mostly stock, but cleaned up. My point is simply, don't go flashing ROMs just because people tell you "you just gotta do it man". And flashing ROM is not for everyone, either. If you do it, you should do it because it fits your needs and wants. And it sounds like you need some time to decide what those needs and wants actually are.
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OK. I got the noob proof tool but I'm a bit confused on TWRP. I'm just confused exactly on what my first step should be and if the noob proof tool contains all the things I need. Again, sorry for sounding like a dimwit (now I do) but I also watched the video Hasoon2000 posted, just to give me an idea of what to do.
1. Do I being by shutting phone off and holding power button/low volume button first? (DFU mode for iPhone I remember) and then clicking step one?
I also joined HTCdev since I saw you need a token. Could this be explained a bit more?
Sorry guys for sounding so stupid but I'd really like to do it the right way and learn more and more about this (like I did with jailbreaking).
I appreciate all the advice

ToxicWaste said:
OK. I got the noob proof tool but I'm a bit confused on TWRP. I'm just confused exactly on what my first step should be and if the noob proof tool contains all the things I need. Again, sorry for sounding like a dimwit (now I do) but I also watched the video Hasoon2000 posted, just to give me an idea of what to do.
1. Do I being by shutting phone off and holding power button/low volume button first? (DFU mode for iPhone I remember) and then clicking step one?
I also joined HTCdev since I saw you need a token. Could this be explained a bit more?
Sorry guys for sounding so stupid but I'd really like to do it the right way and learn more and more about this (like I did with jailbreaking).
I appreciate all the advice
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I was in the same boat as you about a week ago when I first got my HOX. I lurked and lurked and read myself to death until I finally got to where I am now (with CleanROM). Almost bricked my phone because of my haste to root and unlock but what you are doing is good, taking care of the necessary steps. It seems like you haven't unlocked your bootloader? If not look at this thread, it has all the steps you need to unlock the bootloader as the 2.20 firmware we have requires a special method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952038

inksoldier said:
I was in the same boat as you about a week ago when I first got my HOX. I lurked and lurked and read myself to death until I finally got to where I am now (with CleanROM). Almost bricked my phone because of my haste to root and unlock but what you are doing is good, taking care of the necessary steps. It seems like you haven't unlocked your bootloader? If not look at this thread, it has all the steps you need to unlock the bootloader as the 2.20 firmware we have requires a special method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952038
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I actually agree with what you said about my OP. I jailbroke my iPhones with ease but coming here to Android was a complete night and day difference. It's clearly not the same at all. This is more difficult by far. But after looking at tons of threads, asking questions and assuring myself I can do it, I unlocked and rooted a few days ago. Went pretty much without a hiccup. For now I'm staying stock rooted and exploring the phone. I'm already itching for a Rom but that can wait.
I do feel bad for some people that post here without searching for threads pertaining to rooting but I think it's in how you ask and come off here.
Did you use the all in one toolkit? Did you use it to flash your Rom as well?
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I'd say I spent 1-2 hours a day for a week reading these forums before I rooted. And went perfect when I did. Haven't had a glitch or a hiccup yet
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area51avenger said:
I'd say I spent 1-2 hours a day for a week reading these forums before I rooted. And went perfect when I did. Haven't had a glitch or a hiccup yet
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Did you flash a rom or are you still stock rooted?
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ToxicWaste said:
Did you flash a rom or are you still stock rooted?
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Check sig lines. Most regulars list what they're running there.

iElvis said:
Check sig lines. Most regulars list what they're running there.
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Not on the app. But I'm running viperxl. I got this phone over the s3 because I like sense.
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iElvis said:
Check sig lines. Most regulars list what they're running there.
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Ya I didn't see it listed on his xda app. Haha
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Not on the app.
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Derp. I need to read sig lines too.

If I install a custom ROM would I lose beatsaudio?

[help] Getting texts annoyingly late

Ive had an issue now for days now, where texts like to be pushed to my phone very late, though with correct timestamps. I though it was an issue that could be solved by complete fresh install, going from latest viper, to latest clean rom, both running latest bulletproof kernel. perhaps its worthy to note im one twrp 2.3.1, hboot 1.14, baseband 0.19as.32.09.11_2_10.105.32.25L (that's my radio ver right?)

@dethpikil sorry, it wasn't very clear... Was the problem solved with a clean ROM flash or no?

RollTribe said:
@dethpikil sorry, it wasn't very clear... Was the problem solved with a clean ROM flash or no?
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Nah he said he "thought" it could be solved so I assume it didn't work. Maybe try flashing a different radio?
-Sugardaddy

Also what carrier are you on?

Are these texts coming from people with iDevices? This is a known issue, and it's a problem with iMessage, not your phone. Happens to me sometimes as well.

Lets see. My problem has reduced since new flash of clean Rom and cleaning of excess sms messages. Though lessened I've still experience latency, from other android users. I'm on att. One friend in particular this seems to happen often with is on tmobile android. And I did want to give a new radio a shot, however the ruu processes I have found are unclear and scary, and most ppl only express frustration towards my ignorance, so the new radio will probably wait until I feel more comfortable with whatever it is the ruu process entails.
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@dethpikil you don't have to ruu to change radios

@RollTribe (<< hopefully i did that right lol) im aware, but from what ive come to understand, ruuing is necessary for enjoying the 3.4 kernal. so i just seems that updating would kill a couple birds in the process

I don't think this is solely an issue with iPhones. I get multiple duplicate messages from people with Android phones too, although it happens less frequently compared to people with iCrap.