Related
I realize many of you see this as a dumb question. But I see a lot of posts about radios. I've tried looking around the web what it is but couldn't really find good explaining information. I see a lot of posts for flashing the radio and a lot of different versions.
I'm running MIUI on my Sensation 4G and if radio is something I need to flash then I want to know what it is before I try flashing and brick my phone. So I've managed to find the version I have so if someone can point me the right direction I'd be very grateful.
So the main question is - WHAT IS RADIO?
So this is what I got
Radio - 10.14.9035.01_M
the radio pretty much just has to do with the wireless connectivity of ur phone, so ur wifi, bluetooth, 3g all controlled by your phones radio.
you shouldnt have to flash a new radio for every rom, if your facing problems, and think a new radio could fix them then you could try a new radio if you wanted.
hope this helped
Lol oh yea definitely! very simply put too! I just was wondering why there's so many versions and chance of bricking dam thing.
Sent from my Sensation 4G using XDA App
maxe30is said:
Lol oh yea definitely! very simply put too! I just was wondering why there's so many versions and chance of bricking dam thing.
Sent from my Sensation 4G using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Flashing the radio is just about the only sure fire way of bricking it.. It's one of those things people are most skeptical about flashing. No nandroid will save you with an improperly flashed radio
EDIT: I've been flashing roms for a long time now and not once have I ever had to flash a new radio.
Sent from Tapatalk Modified
OK. I installed the HD Revolution 3.6.9 ROM days ago and have 2 major issues. As I am a new member, I am unable to post in the developmental section. Grateful for the OP to ask the question as I am also seeking to know "what radio is".
Although, I also want to ask - what is a kernel?
I believe thousands of members installed that HD Revolution 3.6.9 ROM and I couldn't find any reference for bluetooth and mms issues.
My phone can only detect my Nokia phone, my Plantronics bluetooth M100 is undetectable.
I am also unable to send MMS and yes, I tried the original settings, called the network and played with different settings but problem persists.
I checked the Hardware Information of the phone and it says "Bluetooth address - unavailable"
Kernel is a bridge between applications and the actual data processing done at the hardware level. So basically kernel tells all the hardware what to do (overclocked processors, undervolted batteries and etc) So far best one I've tried for Sensation 4G is the 2.6.35.14 Trinity S4G. Processor is overclocked to 1.7Ghz from stock 1.2 Ghz and the battery life is great!
masonic1032 said:
OK. I installed the HD Revolution 3.6.9 ROM days ago and have 2 major issues. As I am a new member, I am unable to post in the developmental section. Grateful for the OP to ask the question as I am also seeking to know "what radio is".
Although, I also want to ask - what is a kernel?
I believe thousands of members installed that HD Revolution 3.6.9 ROM and I couldn't find any reference for bluetooth and mms issues.
My phone can only detect my Nokia phone, my Plantronics bluetooth M100 is undetectable.
I am also unable to send MMS and yes, I tried the original settings, called the network and played with different settings but problem persists.
I checked the Hardware Information of the phone and it says "Bluetooth address - unavailable"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
btw try wiping you sd card and then flashing the Rom. helped me few time (im no developer )
IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo said:
Flashing the radio is just about the only sure fire way of bricking it.. It's one of those things people are most skeptical about flashing. No nandroid will save you with an improperly flashed radio
EDIT: I've been flashing roms for a long time now and not once have I ever had to flash a new radio.
Sent from Tapatalk Modified
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Obviously some radios are better than others?
Like the goal for man:
We want the best and we want it now.
Hardcore69er said:
Obviously some radios are better than others?
Like the goal for man:
We want the best and we want it now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well that I'm not sure how accurate this statement is. That's why I started this thread just to know what it is. But from all the info I gathered online, you don't really need to flash a radio. Every thread with radios I saw that ppl will put a warning that you might brick your phone. So, my phone works great, never had any problems so I'll stay on the safe side (for now) and just do more research
maxe30is said:
Well that I'm not sure how accurate this statement is. That's why I started this thread just to know what it is. But from all the info I gathered online, you don't really need to flash a radio. Every thread with radios I saw that ppl will put a warning that you might brick your phone. So, my phone works great, never had any problems so I'll stay on the safe side (for now) and just do more research
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good decision..
Trying to track down if the GPS issues i'm having can be coded around without access to the radio code. Any radio after 11.69B on Sensation with seemingly any ROM has bad accuracy issues when using fine GPS while in motion. So RunKeeper , an app that keeps track of your running and distance/speed etc is effectively broken due to this... and altho 11.69A works, it has some other bugs with the latest ROMs so it is annoying me. It's possible there's no controlling things and it needs to be fixed in the radio, thats where i'm looking for some help. I did forward this to RunKeepers developers but haven't gotten a reply yet. I'm sure this impacts other Apps.
The accuracy bounces around enough that when running a straight line down a road, it will bounce to different sides of the street so the app thinks youve run across the street dozens of times while running and it adds up as an additional 1/4 mile of running and throws off all the distance/speed calculations the app does. Previously for years it tracked the straight line you ran and was mostly accurate...
Anyways, thanks!
wrong form section, try to look a bit better next time this is for q&a. U could delete the radio file from the pdg or something. then install 11.69A and then reinstll fw without the radio in the package
jd603 said:
Trying to track down if the GPS issues i'm having can be coded around without access to the radio code. Any radio after 11.69B on Sensation with seemingly any ROM has bad accuracy issues when using fine GPS while in motion. So RunKeeper , an app that keeps track of your running and distance/speed etc is effectively broken due to this... and altho 11.69A works, it has some other bugs with the latest ROMs so it is annoying me. It's possible there's no controlling things and it needs to be fixed in the radio, thats where i'm looking for some help. I did forward this to RunKeepers developers but haven't gotten a reply yet. I'm sure this impacts other Apps.
The accuracy bounces around enough that when running a straight line down a road, it will bounce to different sides of the street so the app thinks youve run across the street dozens of times while running and it adds up as an additional 1/4 mile of running and throws off all the distance/speed calculations the app does. Previously for years it tracked the straight line you ran and was mostly accurate...
Anyways, thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You do realize that it is a development section. You suppose to post this in general section.
\Regards,
It does this with 3.32 and 3.33 and all radios newer than 11.69A .. and 11.69A is buggy with new ROMs. Read what I wrote. I asked in Q&A. Try trying to help instead of jumping on someone with pure enjoyment.
I have no trouble changing ROMs, using ADB or even coding Java, but I realize you have the monopoly on development skill and knowledge .. so I thought maybe you had the skill to help me.
Alienator9191 said:
wrong form section, try to look a bit better next time this is for q&a. U could delete the radio file from the pdg or something. then install 11.69A and then reinstll fw without the radio in the package
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
jd603 said:
It does this with 3.32 and 3.33 and all radios newer than 11.69A .. and 11.69A is buggy with new ROMs. Read what I wrote. I asked in Q&A. Try trying to help instead of jumping on someone with pure enjoyment.
I have no trouble changing ROMs, using ADB or even coding Java, but I realize you have the monopoly on development skill and knowledge .. so I thought maybe you had the skill to help me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i dont understand it completly i think, u want a scertain radio, get the fw for that radio, flash it via fastboot, then get the newer needed fw and only remove the radio file, it should work idk what u mean.. worked for me with hboot
You don't get it. I flashed all the different radios via fastboot already. Latest one that has proper working GPS is 11.69A , which has other bugs in latest ARHD and CM9. GPS works on the others but active/fine GPS is broken and inaccurate. For basic geolocation it would be fine, but for tracking movement and rate of speed etc it's completely broken. It might be hardcoded radio bugs but i'm trying to figure out if perhaps theres something else that can be changed.
So don't just assume that the new guy posting is completely clueless because i'm far from it.
Alienator9191 said:
i dont understand it completly i think, u want a scertain radio, get the fw for that radio, flash it via fastboot, then get the newer needed fw and only remove the radio file, it should work idk what u mean.. worked for me with hboot
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
jd603 said:
You don't get it. I flashed all the different radios via fastboot already. Latest one that has proper working GPS is 11.69A , which has other bugs in latest ARHD and CM9. GPS works on the others but active/fine GPS is broken and inaccurate. For basic geolocation it would be fine, but for tracking movement and rate of speed etc it's completely broken. It might be hardcoded radio bugs but i'm trying to figure out if perhaps theres something else that can be changed.
So don't just assume that the new guy posting is completely clueless because i'm far from it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I didn't ever say that u are the new guy that doesnt know ****, but radio 11.29A works in fw 3.33 to so just flash the radio and your problem is over as far as i know..
I did, problem still happened even with 11.69A , just not as badly. It really seems like a non-radio issue at this point. I haven't wiped EFS yet, Trying to find efs wipe tool for sensation, last one i used was for g2 and i dont know if it resides in the same place on sensation
Alienator9191 said:
I didn't ever say that u are the new guy that doesnt know ****, but radio 11.29A works in fw 3.33 to so just flash the radio and your problem is over as far as i know..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
jd603 said:
I did, problem still happened even with 11.69A , just not as badly. It really seems like a non-radio issue at this point. I haven't wiped EFS yet, Trying to find efs wipe tool for sensation, last one i used was for g2 and i dont know if it resides in the same place on sensation
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
method #2 for sensation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1028405
it worked perfectly for me
ganeshp said:
method #2 for sensation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1028405
it worked perfectly for me
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT DO THIS because you don't know what partition efs is.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT DO THIS because you don't know what partition efs is.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ohh really..
You know..being an RC iam extremely cautious when I recommend something.. At least I double check it.. Before I post it
Fyi.. That method used to be one of the gps fix solution.. In faq section of arhd thread..
And I must have did that.. Around 5-6 times now.. When I changed the rom
Also I was sooooo cautious first time that I literally dumped those partitions and checked them myself..
So now i believe that you will understand that the efs is at the same partitions
And I suggest you to edit that post of yours.. It will create unnecessary panic to people
Sent from my pyramid.. Through blazing fast sonic waves
I wanted to thank the developers of MR3 in this thread. Liquid, Jester, etc.
I'm a long time lurker of this forum since I got my Thunderbolt. I'm VERY VERY appreciative of the developers for creating a very functional ICS rom for the Thunderbolt. Shame on HTC and Verizon for sandbagging so long with what should be a very simple upgrade for them. I was running Thundershed for awhile but grew tired of the Gingerbread look and feel of Android. My friends all mostly have newer phones with ICS, and I couldn't believe that it was supposed to be out in August and it's now mid-October and it's still not out.
To my surprise, I log on to here and see that an ICS ROM had been released.
My only issues with this ROM are random restarts and the white screen error in Facebook/Gmail/etc. I don't really use the video camera much in general; could you use an aftermarket app, or is it broken period?
Otherwise, I absolutely LOVE this and will never go back to Verizon's bloated software. Even when an OTA is released with ICS I won't go back. My phone is running much faster and much better than with Sense and Gingerbread. With data off I had a 10% decrease in battery in 7 hours; with data on and normal use I'll get maybe 5 hours out of a charge on this ROM. About normal for this phone and it's absolutely terrible battery life with the stock battery.
I have it overclocked to 1.5ghz running interactiveX as my governor. It runs beautifully, other than those two minor issues I pointed out above. I haven't experienced any data drops or anything out of the sort like that.
vashts80 said:
I wanted to thank the developers of MR3 in this thread. Liquid, Jester, etc.
I'm a long time lurker of this forum since I got my Thunderbolt. I'm VERY VERY appreciative of the developers for creating a very functional ICS rom for the Thunderbolt. Shame on HTC and Verizon for sandbagging so long with what should be a very simple upgrade for them. I was running Thundershed for awhile but grew tired of the Gingerbread look and feel of Android. My friends all mostly have newer phones with ICS, and I couldn't believe that it was supposed to be out in August and it's now mid-October and it's still not out.
To my surprise, I log on to here and see that an ICS ROM had been released.
My only issues with this ROM are random restarts and the white screen error in Facebook/Gmail/etc. I don't really use the video camera much in general; could you use an aftermarket app, or is it broken period?
Otherwise, I absolutely LOVE this and will never go back to Verizon's bloated software. Even when an OTA is released with ICS I won't go back. My phone is running much faster and much better than with Sense and Gingerbread. With data off I had a 10% decrease in battery in 7 hours; with data on and normal use I'll get maybe 5 hours out of a charge on this ROM. About normal for this phone and it's absolutely terrible battery life with the stock battery.
I have it overclocked to 1.5ghz running interactiveX as my governor. It runs beautifully, other than those two minor issues I pointed out above. I haven't experienced any data drops or anything out of the sort like that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I second this thread.
A major thanks goes out to all of you who develop, in any way, for the Thunderbolt community. This even includes testers.
To answer your questions...
The video and front camera are broken even with an aftermarket app and will remain broken, most likely, until Verizon releases the OTA. From the OTA, our awesome developers will then be able to fix camera issues and many other issues that will make their ROM's 100% stable.
Also, if you get random reboots, you may want to flash to a different radio.
If you are currently running the OTA radios from the 2.11.605.19 software and still get these reboots, try flashing the combo radio and hopefully the reboots will vanish or, at least, happen less often.
If you go to your settings, about phone, software information, more, and look at the baseband version...
If the numbers you see are:
1.49.00.0406w_1, 0.01.79.0331w_1
Then you are on the OTA 2.11.605.19 radios, which is my recommendation for the radios to use with this ROM. If these are the radio numbers you see, try the combo radio. If the numbers you see under your phones baseband version is not:
1.49.00.0406w_1, 0.01.79.0331w_1
Then it may be:
1.48.00.0930w_3, 0.01.78.0916w_3
If it is:
1.48.00.0930w_3, 0.01.78.0916w_3
Try flashing the 2.11.605.19 OTA radios found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605557
If you have the 2.11.605.19 radios, though, try flashing the combo radio found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1864157
If you aren't sure how to flash a radio, here's a video tutorial for you to follow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu-KLjHGGhc&sns=em
Sent from my ADR6400L using xda premium
Definitely want to ditto this thread. Thanks for continuing to support the Thunderbolt. I was on the verge of retiring the Thunderbolt. ICS has brought new the Tbolt new life though!
thanks for the links. I'm going to try upgrading tonight and see if that helps. I notice you flash the radio in hboot. If I do a nandroid backup, does it also backup the radio (so I can restore it)? Or if I **** up, will it be permanently bricked?
Ditto to all that has been said. Thank You to all who made this happen, including HTC and Verizon. Their inaction drove me to decide to root and find alternatives. I've been incredibly pleased with MR3.
Thanks all!
Sent from the Great Beyond using XDA App
vashts80 said:
thanks for the links. I'm going to try upgrading tonight and see if that helps. I notice you flash the radio in hboot. If I do a nandroid backup, does it also backup the radio (so I can restore it)? Or if I **** up, will it be permanently bricked?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you backup that ROM after flashing the radio, it will back up the ROM. Hboot is a whole different thing than the recovery. That radio is downloaded to the phone and will automatically run on any ROM after its downloaded, even if you start from scratch. But flashing any of those two radios will not brick you on any ROM. Worst case being you won't have signal or data until you flash different radios again.
Say if you upgraded to the newer radios, and then you flash a ROM based on an older software version, you won't brick. In fact, you may not ever experience any issues. Maybe just signal changes or random signal drops.
But no, it won't brick you. It's almost impossible to brick a Thunderbolt.
I recommend after flashing the new radios, immediately go and either change the name from PG05IMG to something custom, move into a different folder that's off of the root of the SD card, or just delete it once flashed.
This is for in a such case where you need to get back into recovery from hboot, it won't prompt you to install the radio again. Because if you had to get into recovery from hboot, it wouldn't allow you to since it runs a check for the PG05IMG files first... and with that being said... I was always told to never flash the same radio twice without changing to a new one first.
Sent from my ADR6400L using xda premium
i dont' see why these ROMs get so much acclaim... when i tried LiquidSmooth it wouldn't stay connected to the Internet. tried to toggle wifi and 3G/4G. nothing works and i have to reboot the phone every time i want to use the Internet.
Liquid MR3: the setup crashed and now the ROM won't even come all the way up...
unless my phone's broken or something (going to Verizon tomorrow to reflash and check it), i say they're both absolute garbage. i've had much better luck with ROMs on other phones.
moonlightcheese said:
i dont' see why these ROMs get so much acclaim... when i tried LiquidSmooth it wouldn't stay connected to the Internet. tried to toggle wifi and 3G/4G. nothing works and i have to reboot the phone every time i want to use the Internet.
Liquid MR3: the setup crashed and now the ROM won't even come all the way up...
unless my phone's broken or something (going to Verizon tomorrow to reflash and check it), i say they're both absolute garbage. i've had much better luck with ROMs on other phones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you try a different radio and redownload? The first shot isnt always the right one....
trter10 said:
Did you try a different radio and redownload? The first shot isnt always the right one....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
whelp... as you can see from my post number, i'm not exactly the most well-versed member around. idk what that means. any reading you can point me to or explanation?
moonlightcheese said:
whelp... as you can see from my post number, i'm not exactly the most well-versed member around. idk what that means. any reading you can point me to or explanation?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Back up 9 posts and you'll see a link to a video tutorial on how to flash a different radio. You'll even see 2 links to 2 different radios to flash and try.
Sent from my ADR6400L using xda premium
RBarnett09 said:
Back up 9 posts and you'll see a link to a video tutorial on how to flash a different radio. You'll even see 2 links to 2 different radios to flash and try.
Sent from my ADR6400L using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well i reflashed Liquid this morning and it didn't crash this time, connected fine via wifi and setup completed properly.
all of my radio issues were on the old version (not sure if there's a difference in radios or whatnot), but if it acts up again i will try your recommendations. thanks a lot.
---------- Post added at 11:08 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:52 AM ----------
moonlightcheese said:
well i reflashed Liquid this morning and it didn't crash this time, connected fine via wifi and setup completed properly.
all of my radio issues were on the old version (not sure if there's a difference in radios or whatnot), but if it acts up again i will try your recommendations. thanks a lot.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ah i see what happened now.
the first time i flashed it, i cleared /data after the flash before i brought the OS up, but you've included the launcher as a user app and not a system app. was this intentional? a user could easily screw up by uninstalling the launcher and have no way to interact with the OS. shouldn't there be a default launcher embedded in the system programs?
i'm an Android dev, but my understanding of system development is limited, but if i'm not mistaken, any Android ROM should come with a default launcher that is not uninstallable and has no icon as a backup launcher just in case.
He did install it that way so if the user wants to install their own launcher and remove the default. Its simple to make the new one a system app. All that has to be done is move the apk to /system and it is uninstallable.
Sent from my Thunderbolt using Tapatalk 2
Hello
i went down the path of removing my sense based ROM, and went for the Carbon ROM (jellybean 4.2.2), have tried with other ROMS (AOKP, LiquidRom) and they all seem to have the same issue.
Battery is shocking, i read here (cant post link here), that a lot of these cm10 based ROMS (i.e.non sense) have battery drain issues, i am seeing 30-40% drain overnight in standby, and the battery seems to be leaking even with normal use.
i have flashed the rohan kernel, didnt really make any difference, and have flashed the appropriate radio (Telstra)
was just wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience, i see some postings that suggest that other people are not really experiencing the same issues.
i dont have anything major synching (no different from when i had the sense based rom, just facebook, gmail, work email (exchange) etc), and have turned off location services (i was seeing a lot of partial wakelocks with the networklocation service (several thousand wakelocks overnight). this didnt really have any positive impact
i dont really want to go back to sense (one day i might get off of htc phones), but the battery drain is a bit of a joke.. it doesnt seem right.
I was just thinking about this. I usually lose about a percent every 5 minutes on standby and a percent a minute when using an emulator or Pandora. Tried greenify but that didn't work.
Sent from my One X using xda premium
Arrow44 said:
I was just thinking about this. I usually lose about a percent every 5 minutes on standby and a percent a minute when using an emulator or Pandora. Tried greenify but that didn't work.
Sent from my One X using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I usually keep mine plugged in at night becuase I am at 15% and need it for my alarm. However, it was a time, when I noticed it went from 80 to 60 perfect overnight. I just didn't understand. I also have greenify, but Maps keeps finding it way to me. I do notice the wakelocks are explosive as well. I have BetterBatteryStats, and still trying to figure out how to understand. I have a concept, but not enough to really see what is draining my battery. I know syncing will probably drain it. I will turn off Wifi and see what that does.
I had issues with anything based on cm10 getting some pretty bad drainage but I'm currently using slim bean on 2.14 hboot with downgraded touch fw obviously, stock kernel and I get just as good battery as I did on sense. I tend to keep wifi and data disabled when I'm not using them but I don't really seem to need to with this current set up.
Sent from my One X using xda app-developers app
exad said:
I had issues with anything based on cm10 getting some pretty bad drainage but I'm currently using slim bean on 2.14 hboot with downgraded touch fw obviously, stock kernel and I get just as good battery as I did on sense. I tend to keep wifi and data disabled when I'm not using them but I don't really seem to need to with this current set up.
Sent from my One X using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmm, I was interested in using that. But love the fact this rom, uses less memory. Anyways, I been searching for touch firmware, and can't seem to what it acutally means. Maybe I am over looking.
As far as battery, I always keep 4G off. I used to have to keep on to get MMS and VVM. But some reason, I still get MMS without it on. And with Google Voice, I can get voicemail on wifi, or just get the email when I am on my PC
There's a sticky in this section about downgrading touchscreen firmware.
Sent from my One X using xda app-developers app
exad said:
There's a sticky in this section about downgrading touchscreen firmware.
Sent from my One X using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
does another hboot actually make any difference? i thought that was just to load the bootloader?
Herc08 said:
Hmm, I was interested in using that. But love the fact this rom, uses less memory. Anyways, I been searching for touch firmware, and can't seem to what it acutally means. Maybe I am over looking.
As far as battery, I always keep 4G off. I used to have to keep on to get MMS and VVM. But some reason, I still get MMS without it on. And with Google Voice, I can get voicemail on wifi, or just get the email when I am on my PC
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
where can i get the slim bean rom from? ping me a private message if you cant post a link
thanks
gw
Hboot does a lot more than that my friend. Perhaps some research is in order.
Slimbean is on the first page of the original android development section but whatever..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2230754
There are multiple sections on this forum.. Android development includes mostly sense based roms and original android development includes aosp roms. And it's really not like there's so many that it's hard to find a particular rom.
Sent from my One X using xda app-developers app
So I turned odd my WiFi and on lost one percent in a matter of 45 mins. No screen time though. Will try to have a full charge by the end of the night and will turn WiFi off and report back.
Sent from my Carbon-ize Evita using xda-developers app
I was having some screen strobing on slimbean but that seems to be resolved after flashing vz-oc-linaro v4 kernel.
Pft, this ROM is by far my fave 4.2 rom
exad said:
Hboot does a lot more than that my friend. Perhaps some research is in order.
Slimbean is on the first page of the original android development section but whatever..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2230754
There are multiple sections on this forum.. Android development includes mostly sense based roms and original android development includes aosp roms. And it's really not like there's so many that it's hard to find a particular rom.
Sent from my One X using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hello, can you point me toward info that can help upgrade my hboot (currently 1.09 on my phone)?
You just need to run the 3.18 ruu.
If you're not s-off you'll want to do that first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155071
Having s-off will ensure you don't brick during the ruu process.
After you s-off, just download the appropriate ruu for tour carrier:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37227608
Then run the ruu exe file while your phone is plugged in. Don't relock your bootloader.
Then fastboot flash TWRP 2.3.x.x
Then downgrade your touchscreen firmware:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2159863
Then you can flash whatever rom you like.
Sent from my One X using xda app-developers app
Well here to report back. At 11pm I had 60%. At 730am I wake up to 54% with WiFi off. So. It goes to say that a reason for overnight draining is WiFi.
Sent from my Carbon-ize Evita using xda-developers app
am i going to get any value out of this?
i am already s-off?
i read somewhere that with an hboot >1.14 there might be issues flashing roms.
i have struggled to find a list of 'fixes' that an hboot upgrade would bring.
gjw00 said:
am i going to get any value out of this?
i am already s-off?
i read somewhere that with an hboot >1.14 there might be issues flashing roms.
i have struggled to find a list of 'fixes' that an hboot upgrade would bring.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
are you s-off? look into your bootloader, and and at the top in the green text, it would say "S-ON" or "S-OFF." and yes you get great value in it. it helps you make flashing easier and quicker. also, you can do a lot of things, that others may not be able to do, and cause a break. for example, lets say tomorrow google came out with 4.3, and att was quick enough to release an ota. well, you could grab the ota, and install it without bricking your device. basically you are turning off the secruity checks of the device (not like taking down a firewall or something)
my above example was just an example, and 99.999999999% that it will not happen
and to answer your other question, the reason for hboot 1.14 and higher is because you have to flash the boot.img as well. not a big deal, but can be annoying, because you need a pc to do it. so if you are like me, and love wireless tech, then it was annoying. so going s-off, and be able to download straight to my phone is awesome
sorry, not sure why i included a question mark there, but i am already s-off, hboot at 1.09
my question was more related to the value that upgrading the hboot would bring to my phone on a daily basis, will it make any difference to the phones operation?
downgrading touchscreen firmware seems a bit excessive
i am unlikely to go back to the carrier build (i am with telstra in australia), they take ages to release anything, its normally filled with bloat (and its sense based)
gjw00 said:
sorry, not sure why i included a question mark there, but i am already s-off, hboot at 1.09
my question was more related to the value that upgrading the hboot would bring to my phone on a daily basis, will it make any difference to the phones operation?
downgrading touchscreen firmware seems a bit excessive
i am unlikely to go back to the carrier build (i am with telstra in australia), they take ages to release anything, its normally filled with bloat (and its sense based)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
oh, in your case, just stay where you are at...1.09 and s-off is a good combo...
i have those OTA updates downloaded, in the zip files, there is a firmware.zip, i take it the kernel for sense based roms (which these carrier OTAs are) is not compatible with a non-sense rom i.e. Slimbean?
gjw00 said:
sorry, not sure why i included a question mark there, but i am already s-off, hboot at 1.09
my question was more related to the value that upgrading the hboot would bring to my phone on a daily basis, will it make any difference to the phones operation?
downgrading touchscreen firmware seems a bit excessive
i am unlikely to go back to the carrier build (i am with telstra in australia), they take ages to release anything, its normally filled with bloat (and its sense based)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are many reports of people just not being able to boot some ROMs without being on 2.14 hboot. I also found, personally that I had less general bugginess. Force closes, etc. on 2.14 hboot using AOSP 4.2 ROMs as well as current sense ROMs based on 3.17 and 3.18
You certainly don't have to upgrade your hboot, you can try flashing whatever ROMs you like, but if you notice some weird issues, updating the hboot to 2.14 has fixed a lot of that for many people, including myself.
As for downgrading the touchscreen firmware, it's a really simple process and it's only needing to be done because the source code has not yet been released for it and consequently, AOSP rom's cannot utilize the newer touchscreen firmware, leaving the touchscreen inoperable.
Do with this info what you will, it's certainly useful to know :good:
I have been trying to flash ARHD 9.1 and 8.1 on my M8, but 9.1 hangs at the htc one splash screen (presumably because its for devices with more updated firmware) and 8.1 simply fails to load at all within twrp. Has anyone gotten it working? I am s-off, unlocked, and rooted, and running the newest updates.
anyone have any ideas? Or perhaps an alternative ROM that is also worth flashing on an M8?
I asked the ARHD developer (or rather, the thread in general) if they knew it worked on our M8s... Nobody knew. I err on the side of caution and assume it doesn't.
I'm still learning HTC but on my Galaxy S3 flashing other carriers' stuff was asking for a brick. I never attempted it. Flashing kernels was especially dangerous. There was a little bit of crossover, like with Verizon/US Cellular and some US Cellular/T-Mobile but I tried to steer clear of that, until the whole "Unified" thing came about. I hope it comes to us. Basically the installer has a trick where it figures out what variation your device is and applies the right files, and all ROMs become universal to all M8s... Not sure what the status on that is. My understanding was that Cyanogen was behind it, at least for the Samsungs.
Now, you want ARHD because you want Sense loaded with features, am I right? I use CleanROM because I want a light Sense ROM. I haven't tried it, but you might give Viper a shot. A lot of people like it. I'm tempted to try it myself just to see what the fuss is about... but honestly I like CleanROM.
Dark Reality said:
I asked the ARHD developer (or rather, the thread in general) if they knew it worked on our M8s... Nobody knew. I err on the side of caution and assume it doesn't.
I'm still learning HTC but on my Galaxy S3 flashing other carriers' stuff was asking for a brick. I never attempted it. Flashing kernels was especially dangerous. There was a little bit of crossover, like with Verizon/US Cellular and some US Cellular/T-Mobile but I tried to steer clear of that, until the whole "Unified" thing came about. I hope it comes to us. Basically the installer has a trick where it figures out what variation your device is and applies the right files, and all ROMs become universal to all M8s... Not sure what the status on that is. My understanding was that Cyanogen was behind it, at least for the Samsungs.
Now, you want ARHD because you want Sense loaded with features, am I right? I use CleanROM because I want a light Sense ROM. I haven't tried it, but you might give Viper a shot. A lot of people like it. I'm tempted to try it myself just to see what the fuss is about... but honestly I like CleanROM.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the response! That's really strange that it doesn't work, considering the ROM DOES ask you which carrier you're on, and Verizon is selectable, but I tried it and it doesn't work, for whatever reason, so I suppose it doesn't.
CleanROM sounds pretty nice, as I do want a very light ROM myself, however, I think I'll try viper first to see how it runs. I am looking for a ROM more for performance increase than customizability, however, I'm having fun testing everything out
Well they never responded so I don't know for sure it doesn't work... but I figure if they're not sure, I don't wanna be flashing it. Some who speak are not sure... wiser still are those who are not sure and don't speak.
For performance you may just want a third-party kernel. Those usually come with the kernel tuning app. So you can over or under clock, whatever you want. I don't mess with any of that stuff.
I ran 8.1 on my Verizon M8 for a bit...I had issues with group messaging and keeping a lock on GPS though. I think they've mentioned the version of twrp could cause issues.
I was running it for a day but battery drain and GPS issues had me back to clean. I did read through their thread and saw some people having issues with using a specific version of twrp.. honestly don't remember which one I didn't have an issue using 2.7.1.0 on my device.
i m on 8.1 no issues.
I m s off, super cid , twerp.
The 8.1 works , the 9 and up can't get WiFi ,
Because the frameware is not compatible.
Until an ota from Verizon gets out .
faaunus said:
Thanks for the response! That's really strange that it doesn't work, considering the ROM DOES ask you which carrier you're on, and Verizon is selectable, but I tried it and it doesn't work, for whatever reason, so I suppose it doesn't.
CleanROM sounds pretty nice, as I do want a very light ROM myself, however, I think I'll try viper first to see how it runs. I am looking for a ROM more for performance increase than customizability, however, I'm having fun testing everything out
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would recommend you take a look at this gpe ROM if you looking for a slim, fast ROM without all the customization... http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...om-sinlessrom-gpe-v3-4-3-google-play-t2818550
This looks pretty cool, but I flashed cleanROM already and I'm pretty happy with it. I might check it out when I get bored though!
Sent from my HTC6525LVW using XDA Free mobile app
It's running perfectly for me, with the exception of GPS. However I do get 7 hours screen time often.