OK guys, so long story short, my X8 broke down and I am looking forward into bying the inspire or the desire hd for easter. As I have seen on the forums the HD has more development and has custom kernels ( I haven't found any for the inspire, correct me if I'm wrong). So I was wondering wich phone should I buy. First of all please state the differences (if any). Then about the kernels and rom stuff, can I treat an Inspire as a Desire HD? I mean, can I load Desire HD kernels and Roms on the Inspire? And finally if not which phone should I buy? If you are familiar with any phones similar to the inspire please state the in a line under your answers! Thank you! Looking forward into joining the community and contributing to it!
They're essentially the same phone. They can use each others' ROMs and kernels.
Thank you I have got my answer from both phone's forums. Moderators may lock the post if they wish.
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With source dropping for the dhd and how easy interoperability between our phones is do we need 2 different forums? Seems it would be easier on you guys if things merged.
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I agree. Now that the source is out it would make sense.
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it would be much easier for the DEVS which is more important. they wouldnt have to maintain 2 different threads for the same ROM, Theme or Kernel as well..
Very good point.
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so how do we initiate this or would the Mods even entertain this idea at this point since both forums have been established..
I suggest we work with the mods on this. I'll report my own thread to get some eyes on it.
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sounds like a plan..
yes please merge us!
I agree with this. There's a lot of threads I've seen today that are directing you to the DHD forum for further information/troubleshooting - why not make them the same rather than having to post everything twice, or making devs/users have to jump back and forth?
I have to disagree. I prefer the forums seperate.
I could care less what the people in Europe are doing with their Desire HDs. The Inspire is a US phone on AT&T. It has a seperate identity.
Keep in mind even though they are pretty much the same phone, they run on different networks, have different radio software, and are supported by different cell providers. People's experiences will be different than their European counterparts.
Please keep them seperate.
you do realize that almost everything in our forums are from the europe DHD forums right??? so why have 2?
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you do realize that almost everything in our forums are from the europe DHD forums right??? so why have 2?
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I think 2 just to keep it simpler. so that the threads arent filled with issues from the inspire in the desire thread and desire in an inspire thread.
if the dev part is merged to make it better for them is one thing, but you still need att specific sub forum for all the posts that are att specific.
The Dev secton right now is NOT the biggest part of this device forum, all the att specific issues are...
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if the dev part is merged to make it better for them is one thing, but you still need att specific sub forum for all the posts that are att specific.
The Dev secton right now is NOT the biggest part of this device forum, all the att specific issues are...
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A European ROM flashed with the kernel just released by apache14 works out of the box with no further user tweaking.
I have a feeling that all the rom chefs of Europe will be building their own kernels based on the source that dropped yesterday which is universal, and includes the variations to the American and Canadian DHDs.
I agree that a sub forum may be needed in General but not Dev.
yeah I'm not seeing anything that makes this device any different from the DHD device. The DHD forum isn't limited to 1 single carrier so i'm still not seeing your point of keeping it separate...
worst case scenario look at how the Motorola Milestone and Verizon Drioid forum is laid out.. maybe something similar
and besides the DEV section will start becoming the biggest part of our forums now that ROMS and Kernels are out
Also keep in mind that there are a lot of people who like me have no intention of rooting or modding their phone. So the DEV section is useless to people like me.
I used to jailbreak my iPhone for years, but got bored doing it. The only reason I flashed a custom ROM on my Captivate was cause you had to, being that the stock 2.1 was terrible.
Currently outside of the fact that the back speaker is terrible on the Inspire, I am completely happy the way the phone is. I don't feel I need to flash custom ROMs to get a phone to work the way it should. The Inspire currently works just dandy.
So don't assume everyone is into modding.
there is always the search function. That always helps. Besides where as I know that not ALL people root and load custom roms there are a good portion that do and since that is what the majority do on XDA (D=Developers) then I don't know how relevant your argument is on that one.
did you look at the motorola forum I previously mentioned to you?
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Also keep in mind that there are a lot of people who like me have no intention of rooting or modding their phone. So the DEV section is useless to people like me.
I used to jailbreak my iPhone for years, but got bored doing it. The only reason I flashed a custom ROM on my Captivate was cause you had to, being that the stock 2.1 was terrible.
Currently outside of the fact that the back speaker is terrible on the Inspire, I am completely happy the way the phone is. I don't feel I need to flash custom ROMs to get a phone to work the way it should. The Inspire currently works just dandy.
So don't assume everyone is into modding.
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Why are you using this forum then? No offense but if I wasn't in to modding my device I would use another less development oriented one like androidforum or something. Most people on xda DEVELOPERS are into development. But I am with you on keeping the dhd and inspire forums separate or at least the dev sections and my only logic on that is because of the sound issues but if the source being released fixes this than I guess there's no point. As far as general I could care less.......
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Why are you using this forum then? No offense but if I wasn't in to modding my device I would use another less development oriented one like androidforum or something. Most people on xda DEVELOPERS are into development. But I am with you on keeping the dhd and inspire forums separate or at least the dev sections and my only logic on that is because of the sound issues but if the source being released fixes this than I guess there's no point. As far as general I could care less.......
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Although I am not really into custom ROMs, I still think this is a great forum to hang out. Plus I think you get a more mature crowd on here who are a bit more techie oriented.
I also read on Androidforums.com and like how they have a separate section for every phone. I think it works, but then again on there I don't think you get the same kind of conversations as you get on here.
As far as what Gunny said, I don't really see a lot of DesireHD stuff in the general section of the Inspire forum. I am sure you do in the DEV section, but so far almost all the threads I see in here are all about the Inspire.
i would be curious to add a poll to this thread.. so far I am only seeing 1 maybe 2 people that may not agree. I'd love to see what general consensus states...
Hello everyone,
I couldnt find any specific thread addressing this question.
I used to have Inspire 4g but now I'm on a Desire HD, since the 3G hz is 2100.
So I'd like to know if I can use the same rooting methods of Inspire 4G on the Desire HD.
More specific, could I use the methods described in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
On my Desire HD?
I ask because the desire methods seem a little more hard a time consuming.
Thank you, this forum has been so helpful I can thank enough!
Dear devs,
alquez needs a helping hand and/or a pair of eyes that can help him.
He already more or less knows where the fault lays but he can't get rid of it atm, but the problem is that he can't get help at his section, cause he is the only one who tries to port cyanogen for the wildfire s and all others no nothing about aosp roms.
It's a small device, but it also deserves it to get such a nice ROM and alquez is a good developer, but it's hard to do the whole stuff alone, so pls guys take a look at his current beta and give him a hint or maybe speak to him yourself, any help would be much appreciated
Pls help this small but nice device to get what it deserves
Thx in advance!
Here is the link to his ROM (the link to his source is in his sig)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226765&page=13
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Here is what's left to be done:
alquez said:
I need someone to help me with issues, because I don't have time right now, and I don't want the project to be abandoned. Most of them are kernel related.
Few notes:
- The kernel that works with most functions uses the test branch from Drowningchild's fork
- You need to find better wifi drivers (pure android bcm4329 works, but its unstable)
- Camera flash bug, it's really annoing. Someone should try to mess around with unified cm kernel
- the AOSP code i kanged into board-marvel.c is _not-the-best-one_ and it should be cleaned up/changed
- You won't get video playback to work using official htc kernel sources, sou basically, we are forced to use cm7 based kernels, because of aosp style drivers
- files to look at - ls /arch/arm/mach-msm/board-marvel* - someone should correct marvelc andf marvelct too (for ther variants of phone)
I'll resume work ASAP.
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I know your trying to get the attention of the developers in this section, I know you've stated this isn't for the Desire S, I know your intentions are right.
But mate seriously. This is not a development thread for the HTC Desire S. This should be in the general section. Lastly you could have even PM'd one of the developers to consider having a look.
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I know your trying to get the attention of the developers in this section, I know you've stated this isn't for the Desire S, I know your intentions are right.
But mate seriously. This is not a development thread for the HTC Desire S. This should be in the general section. Lastly you could have even PM'd one of the developers to consider having a look.
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I know your right and I already knew it before I opened this thread, but I hope you can forgive me my fault, it wasn't meant bad at all and I also don't wanted to cause any problems with it, I would also understand if the thread would be moved or deleted, I wouldn't be happy about it, but I would understand it^^
If you're really strict the general section also would be the wrong place, cause it's also related to the wrong device, but even if I post there the chance to find someone that maybe wants to help is much less then here, that's why I tried it this way. And I didn't pm any dev, cause atm they got enough to do with ics and I don't wanted that one of them does it cause he/she thinks he/she has to, I was hoping someone who really wants to join can see that there is the need for it.
Also for sure not all devs are that present here every time, with such a thread the chance is higher to reach more of them.
And last but not least our devs are some of the nicest on xda as much as I know, that's also a reason why I made it here and not anywhere else.
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Feel your pain. The desire s was like that months ago. However, the desire s still doesn't have many developers, especially kernel devs. You may find help here and kudos if you do but you may get better luck asking devs in the desire HD forums.
Sorry I couldn't help
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Feel your pain. The desire s was like that months ago. However, the desire s still doesn't have many developers, especially kernel devs. You may find help here and kudos if you do but you may get better luck asking devs in the desire HD forums.
Sorry I couldn't help
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First off all thx for the hint
I know that, I've seen it myself, unfortunately you used the app to answer, otherwise you would have seen my sig^^
But the big plus the desire s got is the better hardware, the wildfire s is somehow as old as the desire s, but cause of the weaker cpu, the smaller ram & rom size there are much less developers.
I know we haven't as much as others, but we got great devs like superkid, nexx, cayniarb, just to name a few and i'm sure there are many more 'at the underground'^^
At desire HD forum are as much as i know great developers, but not really nice guys, that's what i meant that our devs (the desire s devs) are some of the nicest on xda. And cause of this i was hoping it maybe would be easier to find someone here.
But anyway i will also try it at the desire hd forum, maybe i even can keep my head there^^
Try to contact Nexx, Caynarib or SuperKid.
I have been looking all over forums to find a ROM dedicated to getting the maximum power and FPS out of our device but no luck. I have seen dedicated ROMs for other similar phones but none for ours. If there is one please let me know or if there is any developer who'd be happy porting one to our device, I'd be happy to test!
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