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[Q] Display response time / ghosting

Has anyone else noticed the large amount of ghosting the Xoom display has? Its very prevalent to me, especially when a red or black object moves across the screen (red angry bird (especially when zoomed in), red icon on homescreen while scrolling (pew pew), black bars between gallery images, etc).
Its bothering me to the point of returning it (and looks like I'll have to eat the 15%/$90 restocking fee at Amazon). I'm wondering if the Asus Eee Pad Transformer or Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9/10.1 will have a better response rate. I know they both should have a better viewing angle with their IPS displays.

I have an ISF certificate and don't see any ghosting...

Really? Could it be I have a defective unit. I just find it hard to believe I would be the only one to have/see this.

Listen enable flash, then open this site on your xoom try to go full screen and tell me your findings.
http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/testsoftware/ghosting.html
Btw I have ghosting as well, but never noticed it on before. Thanks for the heads up. Ill reply back when I get more info.
I have no ghosting at all on my nexus one, the screen size have a huge effect on ghosting btw, but just an fyi.

2 Days ago I've been playing DoodleJump on the Xoom, and noticed the game running faster (you can test this) ofcourse you'll have to be familiar with the usual pace of it on the phone version of the game.
I've suspected the frame rate per second to be higher on the Xoom than the Nexus one...which could also be factored in, in refresh rate and then added to the whole performance. Which could spark problems like the ghosting we are seeing.(if you ever tried emulating a PXS on a PC you'll know what I mean)
I know that the screen response time could be a major factor but I couldn't get any information regarding the specifics of this screen. (btw you could be holding two Xooms with different screens)
So my guess for now, is the problem is with the refresh rate on the screen or the way the JIT compiler emulates...which could be solved with an update or a software tweak. Take what I said about the software side of this with a grin of salt

wow horrendous ghosting!!!!! (Using the ghosting test above)

Bumping this thread. Just noticed this on my xoom! Is it normal?

Another test : try going to http://tinyurl.com/xoghost and watch the drumsets at the bottom of the page and the guy in the second last row of second page ghost when you scroll the pages up and down.

Sorry... just saw the responses to the thread. For some reason my email notifications were off.
I ended up returning my Xoom to Amazon while still in the 30 day window so I can't do any further testing. One of the primary reasons for returning was due to the screen ghosting (and overall screen quality). I've also got my eye on the Asus transformer with the IPS display, but it keeps getting delayed. I might just wait until fall reign the next wave of tablets come out... maybe something with a tegra 3
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I'm also seeing quite a bit of ghosting. Is this typical for xoom users?

Selbmig said:
I'm also seeing quite a bit of ghosting. Is this typical for xoom users?
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It would seem so, It's absloutely terrible using the ghosting test linked. I'm getting a ghost the length of the actual cube trailing on my screen, in full screen. =/

ASUS Transformer doesnt suffer that much with the links you posted.

There are two different panels for xooms, one being AU optronics brand (typically sited as the cheap/crappy display) and the Sharp brand display which is supposed to be better.
I have the AU Optronics display and going to the ghosting URL linked previously I get terrible ghosting.
Can anyone with the sharp display test this and see what they see?
You can determine the display type by typing dmesg into a term emulator.
Sharp panels say: 'lcd_manfid=SHP'
AU panels say: 'lcd_manfid=AUO'
Now since dmesg is the kernal ring buffer you might need to reboot before you see it in your dmesg output.
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I'm not surprised by the ghosting on these displays. Every mobile device I've owned has ghosted horribly. Even a lot of monitors around the office do it, but people don't seem to notice or care. I've always used 2ms displays at my home setup because of this. That being said, I paid about twice what other displays of similar size cost. People don't want to see the price of their precious electronics going up without seeing more nice specs on the list. A low response time display won't sell as well as a faster CPU or RAM... If you find a market that is looking at those 2 specs then make them great. Cheap out on the rest.

Actually this ghosting effect is due to the speed at which the pixels can change from one color to another. Some displays have issues with different color transitions.
This is something that doesn't happen on my nexus ones amoled display. And most of my monitors that I have also don't have this issue, at least to the degree of the xoom. It is disappointing to see how cheap the xoom display is.
I bet my droidx doesn't suffer from this either.
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Maybe I'm crazy, but I began to notice ghosting on the screen, especially on the desktop after I upgraded to 3.2 Honeycomb.
If anyone can test whether the effect exists in 3.0 and 3.2, I appreciate it.

UK Xoom Wi-Fi only and I get ghosting too!
lcd_manfid=SHP

smsmasters said:
UK Xoom Wi-Fi only and I get ghosting too!
lcd_manfid=SHP
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Yes, there's some ghosting, but so what? What does it actually affect? I haven't found any effect whatsoever.

Doesn't bother me. Just posting my findings.
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Doesn't bother me. Just posting my findings.
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I know...I wasn't shouting or anything ;^ )
I just think this ghosting thing is not a big deal.

So, who has -not- had problems with their Transformer?

I bought a Transformer yesterday, and I have some pretty severe backlight bleed. I'm either going to exchange or return it tonight.
I understand that people with problems with their device will be much more vocal than people who haven't run into any issues, but the number of posts I've seen talking about display or speaker issues is kind of worrying me, especially when I can go to the Thrive forum and see zero or near zero topics about hardware issues. Does anyone here have a Transformer with no problems? Or do they all have some issue and should I look at a different tablet?
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No issues whatsoever with mine, although I haven't actually went looking for light bleed. Certainly, I've not noticed it in normal use, which is the only place it would bother me.

raptir said:
I bought a Transformer yesterday, and I have some pretty severe backlight bleed. I'm either going to exchange or return it tonight.
I understand that people with problems with their device will be much more vocal than people who haven't run into any issues, but the number of posts I've seen talking about display or speaker issues is kind of worrying me, especially when I can go to the Thrive forum and see zero or near zero topics about hardware issues. Does anyone here have a Transformer with no problems? Or do they all have some issue and should I look at a different tablet?
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I have small light-bleed but it's only visible on a completely black screen with the brightness turned right up and the lights in the room switched off. That's not my normal use case so it doesn't bother me.

I have my Transformer since 2 months now. The hardware is perfect, there is no Lightbleed, no cracking, no dust under the screen and the speakers are o.k. One little problem is Honeycomb, it is not so good as it could be but its getting better with every update. Rooting was no problem and there are no issues when flashing other roms. Last week i bought the dock and there is also nothing wrong with it.
I am very happy with my new Transformer and dont whant to be without it anymore.
Asus Transformer: B5O
Dock: B6O
Sorry for my bad english i am from Austria
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i Have light bleed over the charging port..but that's insignificant ..but my volume rocker JUST got stuck like 20 min ago..already put my RMA with asus..out side of that..it's no issues

Haven't got any problems, though i haven't taken my transformer into a darkroom with a dark jpeg and turned the brightness up to test it!!!!!
A big believer in realism!
My wifi works perfectly
ADW EX works perfectly
Opera Browser works perfectly
But i also don't believe in new automatically equals better, so i haven't installed 3.2.
Wouldn't no about browser typing lag, as i'm the slowest freakin typist ever

I've had no issues with my tablet.
I have just RMAd the dock, as it was a B50 and had the power drain issue, but the tablet on it's own has been great.

very minimal light bleed, but nothing major.
Out of curiosity, hows the ROM dev over with the Thrive? Im wondering if there is more development over there than there is with the TF..
And if so, if having several Roms/mods to play with, keep user more content; So much so, that they overlook minor details..
Maybe were just bored over here in TF world

I have a b60 transformer and keyboard dock and I am very happy with all. I had a small spec of plastic in the screen, flicked screen with my finger and now it has gone and never returned.
Not seen any light bleed and have no problems with build quality.

I only had the creak before, until I learned to look for the light bleed in the dark. It's not that bad, but it feels horrible when you look for it,

Certainly not me ;-) After 5 weeks trying to find a tablet and dock to actually purchase, I bought the only one I could find - a 32 GB version. Why the heck I didn't just give up and wait for the next generation, I'll never know.
Significant light bleed but that doesn't really bother me. But then I discovered the dock battery draining issue with my turned off tablet and that really started to bother me. Then the volume up key on the tablet stopped working and that kind of annoyed me. Then the charger stopped charging both the dock and the tablet and that was end of my using it altogether ... except that somehow the charger started working again on the tablet (and not the dock) so I could use it again. But now it's stopped charging the tablet once again.
I know I have to RMA this ****. Still have to find the receipts and packaging. Maybe I can ship it along with my Asus P8P67 Deluxe motherboard which never worked right from day 1 and has caused me endless grief. Yeah, Asus is pretty much my least favourite company right now...

I love my transformer.
There was some light bleeding at the bottom by the buttons but for some reason the other day it vanished. I have installed the Asus case that has the tapered edge and flap. Maybe the pressure is fixing it.
That with Prime 1.6, the thing is a beast. I'm out of town for work over the next 2 weeks. No reboots or weirdness. I have my PC laptop and my LG G2x setup with wifi sharing so my TF is grabbing internet from one of those devices.
It just works so good I'm afraid to flash it to a 3.2 rom.
I found thumb keyboard better over SwiftKey X and I'm flying. The Office suite allows me to check all my work related documents on the go and has been a lifesaver.
Asus Transformer 3.1 pwnd
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Minor issues...
I have a little bit of light bleed, but it's only noticeable on black backgrounds, with dim ambient light, at certain angles. The speakers aren't as loud as I'd like, but I don't see how speakers that small could be louder. Overall I'm very pleased with mine, especially considering it's what, half as thick as the Thrive?

Not half as thick, but it does feel a lot thinner. It's because Asus designed the tablet to slant from thick (in the center) to thin (in the edge). It's so pretty .

I have problems with the tf, and not only with one unit, because now I am using the third unit (replaced the two previous).
The first was countinually rebooting when suspended (may be software, but used a nandroid of it with the second and no problem)
The second has light bleed and the upper part of the touch screen was bad.
With the third unit has sound balance problem, but I can live with it.
Conclusion
The quality control is bad, but I like this tablet.
Sorry for my english

No issues, I haven't really looked to see if I could find light bleed, but I love this thing

on my second tf
my first one quit charging after 4 days. No keyboard dock.
The one I have now has more light bleed than my first one. That one was a B60, current one is a B50.

No issues to report, although I have not checked on the battery drain issue with the dock (B5O). Still I really like this tablet and use it for work.

No problem here. Running Prime 1.7

Just checked for light leak. took a picture in a black room with brightness all the way up and on the left lower side i noticed it.
been mashing the power and volume buttons all day to see if i can break it(still within 30 days). No issues yet.
b60 purchased last week

[Q] Build Quality

I have been reading reviews on Best Buy and Amazon, and the biggest complaint seems to be the build quality of this tablet. I was wondering what everyone's experience with it is. Does the device feel as flimsy and plasticky as I've been hearing? Thanks for any responses!

Depends on if you get a good one or bad one. Most people with a flimsy-feeling device end up having problems.
As for my experience with build quality, I'm on my 3rd TF300. The first one had a dead pixel and some light bleed but was otherwise perfect, and the second one felt a little flimsy; it ended up having a bad touscreen. So far, number 3 is flawless after a week. *knocks on wood*

Mine seems fine.The plastic is sturdy and I have no complaints. there is a tiny bit of lightbleed in the lower left corner of mine but its so small that I never notice it.
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i get a little light bleed but i never notice its that small and mine feels really sturdy and for me the thickness is just right so it dont cut int your hands

See my earlier post on the subject.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26147164
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Took back my first one. Had the normal amount of light bleed, but one spot was exceedingly bright compared to the rest of the screen, very irritating. It also needed the case snapped back into place in a few places around the outside edges.
The second one had light bleed, but only visible in very dark rooms. No other problems.

EndlessDissent said:
Depends on if you get a good one or bad one. Most people with a flimsy-feeling device end up having problems.
As for my experience with build quality, I'm on my 3rd TF300. The first one had a dead pixel and some light bleed but was otherwise perfect, and the second one felt a little flimsy; it ended up having a bad touscreen. So far, number 3 is flawless after a week. *knocks on wood*
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Not sure if I have a bad touchscreen or not but in the browser when pressing links or selecting them it gets them wrong a lot? More so in Chrome so far.
The tablet is laggy and freezes in the browser at times as well? Anyone else had this?

mark.m.moran said:
Not sure if I have a bad touchscreen or not but in the browser when pressing links or selecting them it gets them wrong a lot? More so in Chrome so far.
The tablet is laggy and freezes in the browser at times as well? Anyone else had this?
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Try a restore? I want one of these, but the thing holding me back is the "hardend" glass. I wonder if it is actually strong and somewhat compares to gorrilla.

Thanks so much for your input guys! After reading your comments, I'm definitely going to get one! Now I can't wait until Wednesday when I get paid!

i honestly cant fault this tab mate and if you root and overclock it its mind numbingly fast all games worksoooo good and browsing is great aswell
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I have owned a dozen or more tablets and so far I am enjoying this one very much. Of course plastic is plastic and can't compare to the metal versions, but unless you are using it to play ping pong, it is just fine. The textured back gives it a different feel than most, hides the fingerprints and definately had character. As far as performance, it is very nice. It is the smoothest running tablet I have had next to my Galaxy Tab 10.1. The speed with the Quad Core is noticeable and I have attained Quadrant scores of 5400 compared to my overclocked Galaxy at 3800. Well worth the money.

Build quality question

Just a quick question for other TF700 owners. I originally bought a Prime and had the bad wifi issues, exchanged it for another with no improvement so I held out for the Infinity. I now have my Infinity and the screen is loose on the right hand side about 2/3 of the way down. If you press it you can feel the give and hear a popping sound. I'm just curious if this is an isolated incident or if a loose screen an issue with the Infinity. I love the tablet and honestly have no clue what I would get instead but, for $500 I expect better build quality.

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Just a quick question for other TF700 owners. I originally bought a Prime and had the bad wifi issues, exchanged it for another with no improvement so I held out for the Infinity. I now have my Infinity and the screen is loose on the right hand side about 2/3 of the way down. If you press it you can feel the give and hear a popping sound. I'm just curious if this is an isolated incident or if a loose screen an issue with the Infinity. I love the tablet and honestly have no clue what I would get instead but, for $500 I expect better build quality.
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I have this issue too. Both the right hand side and left hand side, and a few additional places (7 areas in total). When I closed pad on the dock station a crack formed between one of these two weak areas where screen is loose, and all points to glass cracking exactly because the strains were not supported by chassis. And I closed it the same way I closed it a few other times before (only owned it for about a month).
If you need more description in pictures, there's a thread about defects (it lists clicking/loose screen as one of defects by the way) in this same forum.
I hope that my crack is just an isolated case. This is only my personal opinion based on experience I had, but I would keep bothering the wherever you got your tablet until they give you one without loose screen.

orangeirwin said:
Just a quick question for other TF700 owners. I originally bought a Prime and had the bad wifi issues, exchanged it for another with no improvement so I held out for the Infinity. I now have my Infinity and the screen is loose on the right hand side about 2/3 of the way down. If you press it you can feel the give and hear a popping sound. I'm just curious if this is an isolated incident or if a loose screen an issue with the Infinity. I love the tablet and honestly have no clue what I would get instead but, for $500 I expect better build quality.
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Mines clicking in the exact same spot you described. Doesn't seem to be getting worse, and if it doesn't I don't think it will bother me that much. But still, for the money we're paying its inexcusable.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch.

Same clicking above the microSD slot and on the opposite side -> same location. But it does not really bother me.

Mine clicks a little right above the dock port on the bottom.
I'm not considering it a problem at this point.

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I have this issue too. Both the right hand side and left hand side, and a few additional places (7 areas in total). When I closed pad on the dock station a crack formed between one of these two weak areas where screen is loose, and all points to glass cracking exactly because the strains were not supported by chassis. And I closed it the same way I closed it a few other times before (only owned it for about a month).
If you need more description in pictures, there's a thread about defects (it lists clicking/loose screen as one of defects by the way) in this same forum.
I hope that my crack is just an isolated case. This is only my personal opinion based on experience I had, but I would keep bothering the wherever you got your tablet until they give you one without loose screen.
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In the Nexus 7 forum there were a number of complaints about the screen lifting, and most were found to be caused by screws that were over tightened below the areas of lift. The Nexus 7 back is easy to remove, and I wouldn't suggest doing this with the TF700, but they are both recent ASUS devices and there seems to be a possibility they could suffer from the same issue. By the way. it turns out that only a small % of Nexus 7 owners experienced screen lift, but some had multiple devices with this issue. Mine is flawless, as are the vast majority. I think that must be true for the TF700 as well. Mine is perfect, too.

Just checked. Mine has a VERY slight, not quite popping, but like a small"tic" when pressed by SD slot. Had to listen really close to hear it. My prime was nothing but problems, Wi-Fi weak, GPS totally worthless, and camera was unacceptably bad, grainy quality pics.
My Infinity is everything prime was not. Extremely pleased with it. Only problem I've noticed is I/O lag. And hopefully, that will be fixed with jelly bean.
One other thing, mine WOULD NOT OTA update. Had to d load to micro card.
Other than that, I LOVE MY INFINITY!

I don't see any issues with the building quality. I have not struggled to find flaws . my only complaint is lag and performance. Hopefully these are fixable sw issues that the jb update will fix or someone will create a good ROM to unleash this tablet.
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Build quality for mine is terrific. No complaints at all at this point.
Sitting in the airport lounge right now where my TF201 didn't get a WiFi signal. TF700 has -50dB at 54Mbps.
Build quality and performance are exactly what I would expect for a premium priced tablet.
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My first one was perfect physically, but I had to return it. My second one has the popping on the left and there's noticeable give on the bottom, right above the left keyboard dock slot (that is, you can push the screen into the casing). I'm guessing its not a big deal since there are others who have reported similar things.

I have the popping sound when applying pressure to the display on the right side, kind of where the speaker sits. I used to have a slight bulge / screen seperation above the microSD slot, but that completely went away after I left my Infinity lieing in the sun for a few hours (not on purpose, I just forgot about it and that thing got HOT).

I hope this is an isolated case (though my "popping" wasn't so severe, I didn't pay attention to it either!), but just so you know, this is what happened when I normally (no extra force) closed it with my dock station.
I initially ignored the problem too. So be careful when handling it around dock station (if I'm right, it's only bending which is created by dock station that can do this, simply holding it in hand or closing dock station by holding it in middle will not cause any cracks or damage).

Thanks God I Finally get a No Problem Tf700!

I returned a TF700 and replace a order again on Amazon
I just got my TF700 and the first things I do is press the screen down to see if there is a clicking sound or loosen screen problem.
Thank god it doesn't have such problems
Then I turn it on and check for light bleeding. Well, there is a light bleeding spot on the left corner, but not obvious and won't be notice under normal use.
The rest of the TF700 are fine.
Now I am waiting for the case and screen flim.
I am not going to use it until the case arrive, last time I drop it from around 5~8cm height and the corner just blend and the screen pop out. I cannot believe how weak the structure is (Absolutely much weaker than the ipad!)
Hope the case could give some protection.
Waiting for JB now

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I returned a TF700 and replace a order again on Amazon
I just got my TF700 and the first things I do is press the screen down to see if there is a clicking sound or loosen screen problem.
Thank god it doesn't have such problems
Then I turn it on and check for light bleeding. Well, there is a light bleeding spot on the left corner, but not obvious and won't be notice under normal use.
The rest of the TF700 are fine.
Now I am waiting for the case and screen flim.
I am not going to use it until the case arrive, last time I drop it from around 5~8cm height and the corner just blend and the screen pop out. I cannot believe how weak the structure is (Absolutely much weaker than the ipad!)
Hope the case could give some protection.
Waiting for JB now
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Yes, +1 on the case. It's really important to have some protective covering for this device. It's so beautiful and it would be such a shame to scratch and mar it up.

Without issues, Asus's tablets are the best:good:
Sound funny but it's true.

Do you have Bluetooth earphones to test it out with? I am happy with my tablet except for the Bluetooth audio lag.

What about lags and performance ?
Mine is perfect built with no hard ware issues, but I feel there are some software issues. I want to know is it common issues or only mine.
Some lags in main screen when first time going through them it looks like it needs time to load the pages and when downloading/updating apps from the market there are some freezes in screen and sometime while browsing using chrome the device become unresponsive and the screen freeze and I have to shut it down...
The device is great, but I'm wondering about the software issues and smoothness of this CPU
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Mr.Droid said:
What about lags and performance ?
Mine is perfect built with no hard ware issues, but I feel there are some software issues. I want to know is it common issues or only mine.
Some lags in main screen when first time going through them it looks like it needs time to load the pages and when downloading/updating apps from the market there are some freezes in screen and sometime while browsing using chrome the device become unresponsive and the screen freeze and I have to shut it down...
The device is great, but I'm wondering about the software issues and smoothness of this CPU
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same here but i think it's more noticeable because i have a nexus which is very smooth. hoping jb solves all the lagginess.

I just received my TF700T 64GB from Amazon yesterday and no issues with the screen clicking, actually it is very solid. It does have some light bleed out on the start up screen. But any other time it is not noticeable at all. As for the BT issue, that I am not sure of since I don't have a BT headset.
I did have a Freeze and Crash with loading Glowball. Once I turned it off and back on, it didn't seem to have any issues. The lags, in loading pages I have noticed this every once in awhile, which is strange. Wasn't sure if it was my Wifi network. However I have not had any lagging to the point that it locked up the page where I would need to shut down and reboot.
As for a case, that is not for me. You purchase a device like this due to performance and how thin it is. By putting a case over it, then it is thicker like some of the competition. Besides when dust particles get behind the case it will scratch the aluminum anyway if not careful. Not quite sure how one drops such a heavy device. If you have Accidental Damage insurance on it, no need to worry. File a claim and get a new one, issue fixed.

Traded my prime in at my local BestBuy for an Infinity. Clicking around the screen and the buttons were mushy. Second Infinity the buttons were still mushy and there was a poor mesh between the aluminum back and the plastic strip. THIRD Infinity SEEMS ok (cross your fingers) buttons click good, not really mushy, no clicking around the screen, all seems well!
The clicking could be because the glue they use stays tacky for a bit. I would assume that after a month or so it should cure and stop being tacky thus the clicking. Just an idea tho...

It's actually a shame that there are threads devoted to receiving a flawless prime. Not knocking the OP or anything, but it's crazy how we shell out 1/2 a G for a tablet and "hope" that it's a good one... I got fed up with the stutters, lock ups, questionable-hardware-so-lets-blame-it-on-the-software concerns... I had a tf201 and was lucky enough to be able to return it directly to Asus and get a full refund, then I turned around and got the tf700... Went through two of them. First one had mushy buttons and a clicky screen... It was a c7... Then got a replacement which was a c6. Turned out to be a better build than the c7, but the GPS didn't work independently like it should have. Then, I checked the c7 and that didn't work the way it should have either. Both needed google location services active for GPS to work! Between that and reading about the tf300 issues with JB and experiencing the sluggish response times, non responsive touch screen, icon-less home screens, app force closes, decreasing wifi reception and just about every problem under the sun (ala prime), I finally decided to return it to amazon for a refund. It seems like the infinity starts to get really slow as you use it more and more... It has potential, but I don't have the time or bank roll to wait and gamble...
I'm sure there are people who have perfectly working infinity's but I wasn't trying to hold my breath any longer just to hope that JB would correct all the issues... I'm actually eyeing the iPad, but will probably wait until October to see what apple has up its sleeve... I don't care for apple, but truthfully speaking... Their products have a LOT less issues and the developer devotion to some solid apps only available on the iPad have me steered in that direction. I mean, I can't get scrabble for the infinity or the prime (when i had it)... Really?!?!
Well, good luck to the infinity owners, I'll still follow the forums just to see how things turn out, but I think I'm done with Asus... It's really a shame, because they have so much potential...