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I'd like to request a completely untouched version of this ROM with the exception of root. (No debloating, no deodexing, no zipaligning, etc...)
I'm surprised this didn't come out first and I think many would appreciate it as well.
[ROM]RUU_Mecha_GINGERBREAD_S_VERIZON_WWE_2.10.605.1_Rad io_0.01.78.0802w_3_NV_8K_1.41
[ROM] ZIP format: RUU_Mecha_GINGERBREAD_S_VERIZON_WWE_2.10.605.1_Rad io_0.01.78.08...
2.10.605.1 Debloat|Deodex|Rooted|Busybox|Zipalign
[ROM] [FLASHABLE] 2.10.605.1 Debloat/BLoat Options
you don't need anyone to make one...
Instead, see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226156
and read/use the information and links it contains...
KidJoe said:
you don't need anyone to make one...
Instead, see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226156
and read/use the information and links it contains...
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I was aware of that but it would be nice if someone can uploaded a completed version of this to save quite a bit of time.
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I was aware of that but it would be nice if someone can uploaded a completed version of this to save quite a bit of time.
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Its a couple extra steps, and doesn't really take much longer than flashing a rooted rom file. Plus flashing the patched HBoot is safer, and for how "easy" this is.. I wouldn't expect any dev to take the time and make just a "rooted" version of the rom to flash.
Odd. I don't see anything in the forum rules that say people should ask for help. I don't blame the guy for asking. Why not? What's next--create your own ROM, why should others do it? Figure out your own root method instead of asking someone if they have?
For all the people who give the guy grief about asking, maybe someone else will say, "yeah, that's a good idea" and help the guy (and others) out.
Joel
I think it's more that this person is asking in multiple places for a few hours. Coulda had it done by now. Just rubs some people the wrong way.
Wow guys, well I think I can officially say XDA is no longer the same site I thought it was....
FYI, I had already done the posted method no problem. The only reason I made this thread was in an effort to request if a developer (of which I am not) could create a simple ROM that would help other newbies out and make it an easy one-flash task so they don't have to worry. But no, I guess it's a sin to be a newbie now huh? How dare anyone request something so simple from a developer (especially when a well known dev already spent more work creating another version of the same ROM). So this should be even harder for them to do right? And honestly, why anyone sees this thread as a forceful obligation for someone to fulfill the request is beyond me.
Very productive and helpful posts everyone. Great job at showing how supportive XDA has become...
You do realize pulling the rom.zip from an RUU takes about 2 minutes to accomplish, including the time it takes to google the "how-to". But you would rather bother a dev to do it for you, adding the trouble of having to wait the 20+ minutes to upload the 350MB file to waste precious personal server space for a single person's downloading convenience. A 2 minute job turned 30 minutes of someone else's time cus you didn't feel like it. The difference between a good noob and a bad noob: good noob asks how to get roms from RUUs, bad noob tells someone else to do it for them without hesitation.
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open1your1eyes0 said:
Wow guys, well I think I can officially say XDA is no longer the same site I thought it was....
FYI, I had already done the posted method no problem. The only reason I made this thread was in an effort to request if a developer (of which I am not) could create a simple ROM that would help other newbies out and make it an easy one-flash task so they don't have to worry. But no, I guess it's a sin to be a newbie now huh? How dare anyone request something so simple from a developer (especially when a well known dev already spent more work creating another version of the same ROM). So this should be even harder for them to do right? And honestly, why anyone sees this thread as a forceful obligation for someone to fulfill the request is beyond me.
Very productive and helpful posts everyone. Great job at showing how supportive XDA has become...
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Oh please, you are defending yourself ex post facto because you were attacked for being shown that if it matters that much to help the new commers you could make what you wanted pretty quickly by following a how-to. If you really want to help them, you could have probably finished the how-to and posted it in the time you took to complain.
It's great to do things for anyone new and I am all for it (which is why in the few months I have been an official member, I have 60+ "thanks," most of which came from answering questions or giving out useful information.
No one is attacking you for wanting to help noobs, but people will call you out when you claim to want to help and are shown, but ignore it anyways. It comes back to the quote:
"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
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If all someone said was to google it or do this yourself without telling you how it could be done with links or something then that would be messed up, but they did not. They gave you links in both this thread and the other (the other thread giving you EXACTLY what you requested in a link).
IMHO if you really want to help those you say you want to help, you could create a post in the developer's forum linking to the post that someone gave you in the other topic from rootzwiki. That way they can be pointed in the right direction.
I know I know...... Well I just rooted using Revolutionary and during the process I was following I noticed that it never let me say yes to clockwork recovery. I have root access I did check that. Now I downloaded the Rom manager and it says I need to flash the clockwork to flash a rom. Should I flash it there or unroot with Revolutionary and try rooting again?
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hello and welcome. i would engage you in a different language, but considering you typed in english, i will stick with english. moving a long... we are a very family oriented community and greatly enjoy helping new comers find their way around and answer questions they may have. you are more then welcome to ask a question whenever you like and even if it's something that may seem silly... don't worry, it is always our pleasure to help.
now, to get right to it. you asked about the installation of clockworkmod recovery. excellent! to answer your question, you can indeed install it through rom manager. you will find rom manager to be most helpful to you. a top choice application! so that being said, it is not necessary to repeat your previous steps.
I hope you found this response enlightening and of course, helpful as I like to say. feel free to ask a question again(soon!)
regards,
voxigenboy
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hello and welcome. i would engage you in a different language, but considering you typed in english, i will stick with english. moving a long... we are a very family oriented community and greatly enjoy helping new comers find their way around and answer questions they may have. you are more then welcome to ask a question whenever you like and even if it's something that may seem silly... don't worry, it is always our pleasure to help.
now, to get right to it. you asked about the installation of clockworkmod recovery. excellent! to answer your question, you can indeed install it through rom manager. you will find rom manager to be most helpful to you. a top choice application! so that being said, it is not necessary to repeat your previous steps.
I hope you found this response enlightening and of course, helpful as I like to say. feel free to ask a question again(soon!)
regards,
voxigenboy
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Your laying on the scarasm pretty thick, LOL. You can flash a custom CWM in hboot, Google is your friend it is also in development section. If you didn't do about a week of reading and research before you did this better catch on on reading now we like to answer harder questions not the same just rooted ones each day. Ones that can be searched for. I just rooted Droid inc and Droid inc 2 in last two days and both require different older methods with downgrades before root and s-off and I didnt ask for any help. Hell the ADB method for thunderbolt needed a downgrade and upgrade....Search, read, read, and read again before you do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179386
There is thread for CWM to flash in hboot.
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To put it simply... Yes just flash it through rom manager. It will ask for suoeruser access rights. Just hit allow and then let it do its thing.
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Your laying on the scarasm pretty thick, LOL. You can flash a custom CWM in hboot, Google is your friend it is also in development section. If you didn't do about a week of reading and research before you did this better catch on on reading now we like to answer harder questions not the same just rooted ones each day. Ones that can be searched for. I just rooted Droid inc and Droid inc 2 in last two days and both require different older methods with downgrades before root and s-off and I didnt ask for any help. Hell the ADB method for thunderbolt needed a downgrade and upgrade....Search, read, read, and read again before you do.
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In regards to this post - there are others of us here that actually do like helping out new people. I for one don't care how many time "the new guy" asks the same old question. The reason I feel that way is bc I also have questions that need answering.
So try not to be discouraged by the way some people respond to you. It can be disheartening - but there are some great and helpful people on XDA.
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In regards to this post - there are others of us here that actually do like helping out new people. I for one don't care how many time "the new guy" asks the same old question. The reason I feel that way is bc I also have questions that need answering.
So try not to be discouraged by the way some people respond to you. It can be disheartening - but there are some great and helpful people on XDA.
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Oh trust me I still run into my brick walls around here, but to answer the same I got this phone how do I root it, everyday would be like writing up a nice q&a for new people to follow. Wait there is one and no one follows it. I will leave those questions up to you, and i did help him by showing him how to flash recovery in hboot which is way more educational than using Rom manager. I was new here too not long ago less than a few months but you have to read, jump in, I read for a month about rooting, radios, flashing, what could happen before I rooted....people who just root and come expecting someone to show them how to do everything.....yea you can keep that.
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Thanks for all your information no matter how many times you guys have to answer them. I have read up on rooting long before I did root. I was one of those people that waited patiently for HTC or Big Red to improve these devices. To my misery and 3 phones latter I decided to root. Now for my next question if you guys don't mind..... Lol. Once I flash a rom from rom manager or from a downloaded, is it just that simple to flash another rom or are there certain steps? One more.... How do I go back to my original setup if I wanted to? Again thank you for all of your help.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220484
Read up there start from 1 and read till end that will answer all basic questions.
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The RULES state you search before posting a repetitive thread. It wastes space and makes searching for an answer more of a pain in the ass. That said, I'm going to point that out to every new guy and kindly ask laziness be checked at the sign-in.
Keep the simple questions coming
The thread police are out in full force again. Keeping asking questions. Keep posting new threads if you have to. These ball breaking jaggs are just as guilty but feel like they are of some significant importance here because in real life they are invisible to the world. It's pretty sad when you think about it.
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The thread police are out in full force again. Keeping asking questions. Keep posting new threads if you have to. These ball breaking jaggs are just as guilty but feel like they are of some significant importance here because in real life they are invisible to the world. It's pretty sad when you think about it.
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No its people like you that clutter the thread, I answered or pointed him in the right direction both of my post. You have nothing to offer in this thread stay off of it. Why not offer him some advice instead of just saying keep asking. You my fellow rooter my be just as invisible online as well as real life, so sad.
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Said the person who has to beg to be thanked to make himself feel important. LMAO
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Said the person who has to beg to be thanked to make himself feel important. LMAO
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I don't beg for anything, its part of my signiture, it a reminder that while people always say thanks for the help more than 50% of the time never hit the thank you button. Once again another person saying something in a forum having nothing at all to do with the subject, I guess that is how you feel important agreeing with another newbie.
Edit: nvm I just read some of your past post, now that made me laugh you never helped anyone. Your post are made up of one liners and "why did you".....followed by something not helpful to OP or thread. Thanks for the laugh.
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The thread police are out in full force again. Keeping asking questions. Keep posting new threads if you have to. These ball breaking jaggs are just as guilty but feel like they are of some significant importance here because in real life they are invisible to the world. It's pretty sad when you think about it.
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Do me a favor and read every one of my posts. It's not exactly a procession of mindless, impulsive questions that are repeats of something posted 25 times before. In fact, the posts that are repetitive are the posts that answer the SAME questions over and over again! I think we're all entitled to point out stupid and lazy when we see it, as well as the FACT searching the threads before posting is a RULE (not optional). When you're too stupid or too lazy or too self-important to follow rules, expect the rudeness you get. My thread is the PERFECT place for "stupid" questions and it's monitored by myself and a few others quite regularly. If you post a question there, it gets answered FAST and politely. I'm not doing this as a favor to myself. I'm doing it as a favor to the community. Maybe you should try contributing something more than encouragement of stupid.
However you feel justifying berating someone from the comfort and security behind your keyboard. The rules also say to respect other members of the community but you ignore the rules that you don't feel apply to you. Your hypocritical behavior is hilarious. You could easily answer (or not answer) a question that you feel is redundant without hammering the crap out of someone who is most likely new and not try and make them feel like an idiot for asking.
You can hammer away at me all you want because I know the source of the comments are from a person who is of no significance to me. But there are other new members of the forums who might feel slighted by your behavior and not feel comfortable interacting on the forums after they have been slammed by a self righteous jerk who has to build himself up in his alternative virtual world because the real world is too real for him.
I'm sure you will have an idiotic response to this because you can't go on without having the last word and can't just let it go. Regardless, after the response I'm sure you will have, I will not respond to show that a person can move on and not have to continue to respond to the idiotic rants of a self absorbed person living behind a keyboard just so they can have the last word.
I encourage all new persons to the forum to feel free to continue to ask questions and participate while ignoring those that feel they have to make you feel dumb.
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However you feel justifying berating someone from the comfort and security behind your keyboard. The rules also say to respect other members of the community but you ignore the rules that you don't feel apply to you. Your hypocritical behavior is hilarious. You could easily answer (or not answer) a question that you feel is redundant without hammering the crap out of someone who is most likely new and not try and make them feel like an idiot for asking.
You can hammer away at me all you want because I know the source of the comments are from a person who is of no significance to me. But there are other new members of the forums who might feel slighted by your behavior and not feel comfortable interacting on the forums after they have been slammed by a self righteous jerk who has to build himself up in his alternative virtual world because the real world is too real for him.
I'm sure you will have an idiotic response to this because you can't go on without having the last word and can't just let it go. Regardless, after the response I'm sure you will have, I will not respond to show that a person can move on and not have to continue to respond to the idiotic rants of a self absorbed person living behind a keyboard just so they can have the last word.
I encourage all new persons to the forum to feel free to continue to ask questions and participate while ignoring those that feel they have to make you feel dumb.
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What I don't understand is people like you encourage new people to break the rules, clutter the threads or start unnecessary ones while you yourself do not bother to try to help these people either. Look at my posts and tell me I don't try to help people with REAL problems I have not seen posted.....please point out I am being a jerk to every new person that comes on. Read up and you need to step up to help these new people questions don't leave it up to everyone else to answer if you are telling them to keep asking the same questions over and over.
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I help A LOT of people here on xda all day everyday some donate some don't. its very hard to help people on xda cus when helping them other people jump in and start either telling the person im helping don't do that do this or they just plain old spam. i have helped a very large amount of people on g talk and they have told me they like to be helped MORE on g talk than on xda because we have 100% full privacy to do what we need to do. please choose how you like to be helped Either xda or PM or g talk. at the end of the week ill count all of them up and from the results i will help people based on the results on this thanks very much.
To put the poll into better context I believe that you should also read this thread Although I've quoted the relevant posts below:
ben_pyett said:
Hello, Paul,
Firstly, thanks (again) for your input into the forum. I'm genuinely not intending to create conflict here or trying to play the role of a mod. Now, I know that you've had this sort of comment before, but, I agreed with it then and I'm afraid that I still do.
While at times the PM route can be useful to resolve issues, it shouldn't be the only or primary option. The whole principle of XDA is openness and sharing, so resolving an issue in thread permits that the next user(s) (and there is always another, who suffers from the exact same problem) from hopefully using the Search function and then following the resolution from the thread by themselves.
That way we're working towards creating a valuable resource rather than loosing useful input into hidden PMs.
PM's do have there place for 'user to user' communication, that would otherwise populate the forum unnecessarily but once a thread has been created I believe that it should be used to reolve the original issue.
If a new user needs that much hand holding then one wonders whether they should be risking their £200-£400 device in the first place! before reading up some more....
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me helping people over PM is better because its faster and more safer for the person im helping. if im trying to guide him then other people jump in and comment he isnt going to know who to listen to and he will get very confused. this has happend before. by helping over PM or my gmail is better for them, and me. and i ALWAYS ask them after to write a guide as to how i helped them and what they did. i at NO point mean to upset anyone. but you have got to understand that this is the only way that i can help these people as you may well know here on xda people have got there opinions and they like to jump in whenever they want. if i tell him to do somthing some1 might jump in and say no or do this and do that. i have had EVERYONE i have helped say thanks to me and its better this way. i have helped MANY people achieve proper s-off. i will no open a poll. and it will ask the people of xda if they would prefer to be helped via PM or Gtalk or on here. if more people prefer xda then i will start helping via xda
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As someone whom Paul has helped through gtalk, It was very beneficial to me as we were able to quickly and easily communicate, as any other method is rather slow and crude. I definitely do agree with your point on xda being a repository for information however, therefore communicating through gtalk or similar could withhold information from other users. However I have now written up a short guide of what I did to solve my problem on the original thread, and I believe that if people do this then everyone wins tbh, and it has the added advantage of the treads being shorter and more concise, therefore it is easier to find the relevant information.
As someone who has done all his stiff by reading through threads and others opinions, I will always advocate all discussions on XDA
Sent from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3. WAKE UP HTC!!!!
On the 16th the poll will close and whatever the winning method is thats the way i will help people from now on. i do wish ALL people will take something out of the way i help them. as me getting them properly s-off uses alot of things like commands running adb , fastboot and so on. by helping them do these things it then in turn helps them. as if i didnt help them and they needed to to adb or fastboot commands and they never knew howto that could result in a not needed thread being opened **How to use adb or fastboot** this is a good way for me to help these people. i think people should help people the way they do and let other people carry on with the ways they do things. ( no offence meant ben your opinion means alot to me your a good person ) but if it states in the rules ( only help people on xda ) then i will stop if it dont then i will carry on as im not doing anything wrong. and even so if you guys think your losing out on infomation. i will open up a guide covering absolutly EVERYTHING on the desire s from fastboot adb changing roms,splash,radio,hboot and covering everything on what the desire s is capable of doing. what limits it has and other things. this in a sense will be the desire s XDA user guide let me know if u think thats a good isea ben. and as i go along anything i help people out with thats not in the new guide ill just update it ????????????
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( no offence meant ben
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None taken
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do u think that the thread idea's a go ?
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do u think that the thread idea's a go ?
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I do but there are already several threads like this, so one must be careful not to pollute the forum with too many similar guides which would just lead to further confusion.
There is the Complete Tutorial for beginners and others, but I'm guessing yours would be a more technical and slightly more advanced version?
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There is the Complete Tutorial for beginners and others, but I'm guessing yours would be a more technical and slightly more advanced version?
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yes ur right mine would cover EVERYTHING that is possible with our device. from s-off to installing app's and even radio flashing fastboot adb the lot. EVERYTHING will be in sections. with sections about all developers themers contributors. what projects that are currently under development and it can also act like a news forum. like if you want to know whats happening in the most recent roms go to this thread and find your rom and you will be able to keep upto date with whats going on. this will be called DESIRE S ADVANCED USER THREAD. this will house everything for our device. from what roms are currently avalible and everything. im going to start this thread now i think this thread when its done will be the best thread about our device on xda
if u look the thread u linked above Last edited by nodeffect; 27th February 2012 at 03:00 PM. Reason: Updates . this is not regularly updated. mine will be updated EVERYDAY
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yes ur right mine would cover EVERYTHING that is possible with our device. from s-off to installing app's and even radio flashing fastboot adb the lot. EVERYTHING will be in sections. with sections about all developers themers contributors. what projects that are currently under development and it can also act like a news forum. like if you want to know whats happening in the most recent roms go to this thread and find your rom and you will be able to keep upto date with whats going on. this will be called DESIRE S ADVANCED USER THREAD. this will house everything for our device. from what roms are currently avalible and everything. im going to start this thread now i think this thread when its done will be the best thread about our device on xda
if u look the thread u linked above Last edited by nodeffect; 27th February 2012 at 03:00 PM. Reason: Updates . this is not regularly updated. mine will be updated EVERYDAY
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The one thing I would say though, is rather than re-invent not just the wheel but the car, I'd recommend that you source, link and reference as much of the existing documentation where ever possible.
paul.robo said:
yes ur right mine would cover EVERYTHING that is possible with our device. from s-off to installing app's and even radio flashing fastboot adb the lot. EVERYTHING will be in sections. with sections about all developers themers contributors. what projects that are currently under development and it can also act like a news forum. like if you want to know whats happening in the most recent roms go to this thread and find your rom and you will be able to keep upto date with whats going on. this will be called DESIRE S ADVANCED USER THREAD. this will house everything for our device. from what roms are currently avalible and everything. im going to start this thread now i think this thread when its done will be the best thread about our device on xda
if u look the thread u linked above Last edited by nodeffect; 27th February 2012 at 03:00 PM. Reason: Updates . this is not regularly updated. mine will be updated EVERYDAY
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Guides done i have posted it now and ill carry it on as i go along
hey guys, Would just like to add to this After searching throughout the forum day and night i got what information i needed to root and s-off my desire s. After following all the instructions letter by letter i was still have errors and problem after problem. paul.robo kindly asked me if i wanted his help and i accepted using Gtalk. I can not begin to express at how helpful he was and was there to guide me through each error. After a good few steps i finally got to where i wanted to be. In no way was i able to find out why i was having these errors if he weren't there to check them as it was happening. To go through this in forum style replys would take days and to much work. Gtalk is a brilliant and direct help for occasions like these and would recommend his help and wisdom to all. Thanks again mate Much appreciated
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hey guys, Would just like to add to this After searching throughout the forum day and night i got what information i needed to root and s-off my desire s. After following all the instructions letter by letter i was still have errors and problem after problem. paul.robo kindly asked me if i wanted his help and i accepted using Gtalk. I can not begin to express at how helpful he was and was there to guide me through each error. After a good few steps i finally got to where i wanted to be. In no way was i able to find out why i was having these errors if he weren't there to check them as it was happening. To go through this in forum style replys would take days and to much work. Gtalk is a brilliant and direct help for occasions like these and would recommend his help and wisdom to all. Thanks again mate Much appreciated
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No problem mate I'm here to help all who need me
Hi guys.. I have visited the site many many times and usually found all the answers I need. However, I only recently took the plunge and rooted my Desire S. And surprise surprise I think I've done it wrong! I'm stuck at the HTC logo and it never gets any further
The steps I have taken are:
-Unlocked with HTCdev
-Rooted with SuperOneClick (it was all good at this point. Used fine for a couple of days)
-Installed CWM recovery.
-Flashed VanillaIce ROM
And that's as far as I have gotten. The VanillaIce went through the installation process very smoothly, I selected the option 'reboot' and since then, it won't boot past the HTC logo. But I CAN get to the bootloader screen, and recovery mode.
I am on hboot 2.00.0002
S-ON
Radio 3822.10.08.04_M
I know, I'm a noob here, and please believe me when I say I have searched but I can't find an answer to this specific situation and I need your expert help!
ady863 said:
Hi guys.. I have visited the site many many times and usually found all the answers I need. However, I only recently took the plunge and rooted my Desire S. And surprise surprise I think I've done it wrong! I'm stuck at the HTC logo and it never gets any further
The steps I have taken are:
-Unlocked with HTCdev
-Rooted with SuperOneClick (it was all good at this point. Used fine for a couple of days)
-Installed CWM recovery.
-Flashed VanillaIce ROM
And that's as far as I have gotten. The VanillaIce went through the installation process very smoothly, I selected the option 'reboot' and since then, it won't boot past the HTC logo. But I CAN get to the bootloader screen, and recovery mode.
I am on hboot 2.00.0002
S-ON
Radio 3822.10.08.04_M
I know, I'm a noob here, and please believe me when I say I have searched but I can't find an answer to this specific situation and I need your expert help!
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You haven't searched. You haven't even thought about searching. If you had searched then you would have found out about HTCDev and boot.img - now go and search
ady863 said:
I know, I'm a noob here, and please believe me when I say I have searched but I can't find an answer to this specific situation and I need your expert help!
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with just 3 words from your title 'stuck, htc, logo' i was able to searched it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=80067477
Like I said, I have searched but I can't find an answer to this SPECIFIC situation. I can't seem to find the info in simple words anywhere.
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Like I said, I have searched but I can't find an answer to this SPECIFIC situation. I can't seem to find the info in simple words anywhere.
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If you bothered reading then you wouldn't need a fix for this "specific situation". HTCDev is the problem. Boot.img is the answer, as I have already posted.
Now look for those and when you realise what it is you can come back and use the thanks button for me and Rain.
If you can't find the answer yourself given the hints we've given you then put your phone in the bin and use a Nokia 3310 instead.
Oh ok, I will need to do this at home later as I'm on linux at work.
Thanks for the help, although the rudeness is quite unnecessary.
Trying to find clear explanations for this stuff is rather difficult, I know the info is out there but it's all scattered about, with threads linking all over the place.
Pls dun misunderstand us. We are not trying to be rude to shuu u away, people have be known to brick their device by not reading thoroughly. They bump into an issue in one thread and tried another solution in another, and in a state of nervousness they blindly and rushly do unnecessary stuff, such as pulling their battery and frying the emmc chip.
Also the solution u are looking for a in the 2nd and 3rd of the search result apart from ur post which is the 1st. And the answer is in the 2nd or 3rd reply.
Why do ppl stressed on reading 1st, because it is ur phone, ur responsiblity, and if it bricks, it is all on u. And to be responsible is to read.
And ur question is not the 1st in the past month, I think there are like 10 different people asking in 10 different thread with 10 different people answering the same 1 thing over and over and over again.
With this in mind, aren't u a bit ignorant in refusing to read the searches u made?
So when people asked u to search by giving u key words, it simply means the answers are there. :thumbup:
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I also really don't see the point of this attitude of SimonTs and others on xda... Why always react pissed off instead of giving your critique in a positive way...
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giel123 said:
I also really don't see the point of this attitude of SimonTs and others on xda... Why always react pissed off instead of giving your critique in a positive way...
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Maybe you should read about what XDA was actually created for? It is a Developers site, not a noobs site. I have no problem helping people - if you look you will see that I can actually be extremely helpful when the situation requires it - but when someone comes on here claiming to have searched or not bothering to put in the basic reading then I will ALWAYS point them to do that first.
Just spoon-feeding the answers helps nobody - firstly because the same questions always get asked and secondly because if the person then makes a mistake they haven't got a clue how to recover.
Bear in mind that when I bought my DS and S-Offed it, the only way to do it was with a hardware rig called an XTC-Clip. If you made a mistake with that method your phone was toast - so you can imagine how many hours I spent reading to understand EXACTLY what I was doing.
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I also really don't see the point of this attitude of SimonTs and others on xda... Why always react pissed off instead of giving your critique in a positive way...
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I do not intend to be rude but when you answer the same question for about hundreds of times and the fact that the search function lists all your hundreds of answers it gets really annoying by two reasons:
1) it feels like you have wasted a lot of time that no one appreciates
2) over time the Desire S section of XDA became quite a good knowledge base but the newcomers do not care to use it and find more easy to flood with new "already answered" pointless threads
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Why not just leave the stupid questions unanswered then, instead of spilling negative words every single time? You are the one who chooses to answer. I don't say I disagree. I also think that people should search better, but I don't get why you put all your energy in those negative reactions. Besides don't blame the noobs for being on xda. Of xda is not meant for everyone, don't make it accessible for everyone....
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No one was pissing of at anyone, If i would call my younger sister to read it out loud it wouldn't sound anything like how u imagine, some might even call it cute, but if i were to call my grumpy old grandad to read then i would say some one is piss off.
Matter of perception.
Like the title says hiw do i get vanilla ICS on my desire S. thats all i want. Plain old ICS. Is it possile?
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Like the title says hiw do i get vanilla ICS on my desire S. thats all i want. Plain old ICS. Is it possile?
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Is this a QUESTION? Would it, maybe, be better off in the Q&A forum?
Also do yourself a favour and read before asking questions that are simple to find the answer to please.
Thanks for the helpful reply.
If I understand you right, you'd like to remove Sense. To do this, you need to "root" your Phone and install an ICS-only-Rom. In this thread you can find many different ROMs, even Jelly Bean-ROMs and an instruction on how to root your Phone.
Hope I could help you
Written in very bad English on my PC
Sanguinus
Try CM9 or IceCreamSaga ROM.
Simon is always very "helpful"
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Simon is always very "helpful"
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Sarcasm - well done you prat. If the 'Thanks meter' is anything to go by, then I am helpful - but when people ask such stupid, pointless questions as the OP without bothering to do any reading or searching first then they deserve the reply I gave. ANd what is wrong with me telling the OP that he has posted in the wrong forum? If people actually bothered to read or follow the rules of XDA then it would be a much better, more civilised place.
Once again - people who don't bother to read run a much greater risk of screwing up their phone permanently because they don't understand what they are doing, why they are doing it or how to fix it if something goes wrong. XDA is not a support site for people to ask daft questions - it is a Developers site. I appreciate that it has become overly popular and now everybody feels they have a 'right' to root their phone with no issues and a full expectation to treat the people on here as free tech-support, but that is not the reality of the situation.
If you have a problem with me then take it to PM and we will deal with it there, otherwise wind your neck in before your head gets taken off.
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Sarcasm - well done you prat. If the 'Thanks meter' is anything to go by, then I am helpful - but when people ask such stupid, pointless questions as the OP without bothering to do any reading or searching first then they deserve the reply I gave. ANd what is wrong with me telling the OP that he has posted in the wrong forum? If people actually bothered to read or follow the rules of XDA then it would be a much better, more civilised place.
Once again - people who don't bother to read run a much greater risk of screwing up their phone permanently because they don't understand what they are doing, why they are doing it or how to fix it if something goes wrong. XDA is not a support site for people to ask daft questions - it is a Developers site. I appreciate that it has become overly popular and now everybody feels they have a 'right' to root their phone with no issues and a full expectation to treat the people on here as free tech-support, but that is not the reality of the situation.
If you have a problem with me then take it to PM and we will deal with it there, otherwise wind your neck in before your head gets taken off.
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I don't have any problem with you, I'm only trying to say that you sometimes are a little bit uncomprehending with people that don't know so much as you. Don't get me wrong, you are great to this community, but sometimes you overreacted. You can scold and give advice but can respond debts, are nonsensical or not.
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I don't have any problem with you, I'm only trying to say that you sometimes are a little bit uncomprehending with people that don't know so much as you. Don't get me wrong, you are great to this community, but sometimes you overreacted. You can scold and give advice but can respond debts, are nonsensical or not.
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It isn't a matter of whether people are new here or uncomprehending - it is a simple matter of following the rules of XDA. Search before asking questions is one of the first, if not the first rule - yet nobody seems to bother doing it anymore.
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It isn't a matter of whether people are new here or uncomprehending - it is a simple matter of following the rules of XDA. Search before asking questions is one of the first, if not the first rule - yet nobody seems to bother doing it anymore.
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You are right about that, but like steste01 did not like your answer the others also does not like. As I said, you can answer too.
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You are right about that, but like steste01 did not like your answer the others also does not like. As I said, you can answer too.
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You're quite right - he didn't like the answer because he doesn't like the rules. That doesn't mean that I am wrong to point it out to him.
Maybe we should apply the same attitude in society as a whole - I can just go out and break whatever laws I want, and if I get arrested I'll just tell the cops that I don't like the rules.
Simon is right here. Anyone wanting to root their phone, must at least take the pain to understand the process and the risks involved rather than jumping into flashing straightaway.
The problem is everyone is just too lazy to read and gather information and knowledge.
In fact everyone who has been on this forum for a while would have already spent quite some time reading about stuff before jumping into it.
As the warranty of Desire S has gotten over for a lot of people, we are seeing some super noobs around here.
Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
How i root my phone was, i htcdev unlock, didnt know after this i could root my phone, i went straight to s-off it, bump into error 155, pull my battery a few times, stucked not at htc logo, but a red exclamation mark. bump into more issue, slept late, in the end i manage to root.
thank God i didnt brick my phone in the process. it was less than 3 months when i did that, and now i am a bit regretting it, as i unlock using htcdev and voided my warranty.