I see that we can now unlock this phone. However, it came with 4.1.1 and I was not able to get root, and with a locked bootloader, there seemed little point in it. I took the OTA to 4.1.2 a few weeks ago when it came out.
So am I screwed? Can I roll the phone back to an earlier version, like I used to do with RSD Lite and my Droid X? Or am I completely hosed here?
I hate that by the time this can be rooted as is, the phone will be obsolete... Any suggestions? Apart from not buying Moto phones in the future? hehe
going to have to wait for root. it might not be tomorrow but i bet its not long. i went to root 4.1.2 but then decided to SBF cause it made it run so much better but now regret it.
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I rooted mine and my wife's Captivate and the only advantage I saw was getting rid of ATT programs. I was going to send my phone back (becasue I could not OTA update) But since used Kies to do so. My wifes remains rooted . I am back to stock JH7.
I read you can tell the phone where to install programs when rooted but I did not find a way to do that. What are the other advantages of rooting the phone.
We have one Captivate rooted and the other stock.
Came over from unbranded n97 running Symbian. This is all new to me and I hated the 2 weeks with an iPhone. So far I like this Andriod OS but I have a lot to learn. I have read it is virtually impossible to brick this phone with the propoer tools and knowledge that is readily available........true?
Apparently it is not as unbrickable as people think. Some people were seeing stock phones bricking by trying to update the recent OTA. I myself was rooted and had no troubles.
Rooting allows you to play God on your phone. But be careful and backup everything if you do decide to. Best advice, as I was new to Android as well, is to read as much as you can before trying anything.
Most people here are good about answering questions, if you post in the right forum.
Good luck and welcome!
I guess it really depends on what you want to do with your phone. The only reason I rooted was to remove bloatware. Thats pretty much where the benefit ends unless you are interested in loading different ROMs and kernels.
Also, a word of caution: Be careful what apps you load on a rooted device. Root access gives you, and applications read/write/execute access to everything on your phone.
I also have a question on this topic. Since the original poster said, he can't do OTA updates after rooting is this correct?
Can you root the phone, take the bloatware off, then unroot the phone? Will the OTA now update?
Or do you have to update the original stock rom with OTA, then root the phone?
Can you root the phone, remove bloatware, then unroot the phone?
Thanks
Ihad no problem updating with my rooted phone. All I've done is root and lagfix.
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dynastyice said:
I also have a question on this topic. Since the original poster said, he can't do OTA updates after rooting is this correct?
Can you root the phone, take the bloatware off, then unroot the phone? Will the OTA now update?
Or do you have to update the original stock rom with OTA, then root the phone?
Can you root the phone, remove bloatware, then unroot the phone?
Thanks
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I rooted my phone......removed all bloat tirf to do the update and failed...Odin back to stock.....failed even after speaking with Samsung and ATT. Of course Samsung said it was not a hardware issue (as if that is all they should be concerned with.)
the Odin process could only be doe ONE way for me and I cut and pasted the method that worked and keep it and a lot of other tips in a Samsung folder on my Notebook. Seems everything but rooting was a hassle until you get GOOD information. That is the hardest think to glean. One has to read ENTIRE threads before they find the solution and not go jumping into the experiments....LOL
A few OPs do update their initial posts with the correct "process revisions"
I likely will root after the maybe someday Froyo 2.2 update. I want to get my wife's phone stock again..........
I finally after ATT decided to replace the phone......download Kies and installed the update that was and all went well. Kies is hit and miss with this phone though, Sometimes it sees it, others it does not.
Funny thing now on my USB selections it doesn't say "Samsung Kies" It says "Samsung Kies (firmware update)" Strange.
Anyway I am a complete noob but I like to learn about the OS as I did Symbian and mess with things now and then. I Am not the type that worries about scratches though. My phones look like war toys. But I usually don't resell them after a a couple generations. I give the previous phones away and keep the current phones as back up for the NEXT phones. The N95s will be given away if we keep these past Oct 20 drop day....
The biggest advantage you gain after rooting your phone is being able to use Titanium to back up all your apps, and Clockwork ROM manager to do an entire backup your phone.
These are nice tools to have, but both require rooting and super user privileges.
if you ask that question, then you probably shouldn't. rooting is for those who constantly not satisfied with status quo of their phones, for those who like different looks and improve on system and have no patience for OTA.
Example:
I bought MyTouch 3G as 1.5 Cupcake.
Upgraded to CM 1.6
Changed back and forth between Sense 1.5 and Donut 1.6.
Upgraded to CM 1.6 with bits of 2.0
Upgraded to CM 2.0
Upgraded to CM 2.1
Upgraded to CM 2.2
My Captivate will eventually get CM 6.0 I hope soon. Who knows, perhaps Sense 2.X will be ported too.
Oh, and lag-fix, overclocking and future color fix are other pluses.
Yeah you,re right. I switched both caps back to stock. I may want something more after Iget to know Android more and find areal need rather than.
do something just because it can be done
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A while ago i rooted my Droid X just to delete the bloatware and use some of the rooted apps. Well now the Gingerbread update is available and I would like to apply it to my phone. If I do the update what will happen? I could care less about loosing the root. I just don't want anything to happen to my phone and end up with a paperweight. Any help would be greatly appreciated
From what I have read, you will at the very least have to reinstall the apps that you removed in order to update. You might also have to unroot. Probably the easiest thing for you to do is SBF back to stock and then upgrade.
I have a question about my phone. I'm running a custom ROM and the update for Gingerbread is out. Now since my phone was in my pocket I didn't realize the message popped up to update it and now it's downloading the new update. Can I stop it? If so how. Or should I let it download? Or will that brick my phone? Thanks for the help. Using a Droid X by the way.
So I had an xt926 rooted and unlocked with a 4.2.2 version of PAC, I have a backup of the phone in this state. My phone broke and i got a new one but it came with 9.18 on it, and I rolled back to 9.16 hoping to reopen the hole for motopocalypse, but i guess it doesn't work that way. So my question is, should i just let my phone update, and hope for a new way to unlock to come along, or should i keep 9.16 on it and again hope for a new way to come along? I would really like to get my old phone setup back, anyways thanks for any input or help.
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So I had an xt926 rooted and unlocked with a 4.2.2 version of PAC, I have a backup of the phone in this state. My phone broke and i got a new one but it came with 9.18 on it, and I rolled back to 9.16 hoping to reopen the hole for motopocalypse, but i guess it doesn't work that way. So my question is, should i just let my phone update, and hope for a new way to unlock to come along, or should i keep 9.16 on it and again hope for a new way to come along? I would really like to get my old phone setup back, anyways thanks for any input or help.
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Since your phone already had the update, you might as well go back to it, and re-root with Motochopper 1.1. If you hold your breath for an unlock to come out, you might pass out.
Need to upgrade and am just about ready to pull the trigger on the M8. I understand the root/s-off issues with 4.4.4, and know 4.4.4 is the latest OTA, but if anyone out there has purchased/received their M8 in the last few weeks, can you let us know what OS version came on the phone (prior to the OTA taking hold which I know it will try and do almost right away after turning it on)?
Would love to know they are still coming with earlier versions and then plan to get s-off prior to taking any OTA so I'll be good to root and have fun with this thing.
Thanks!
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Need to upgrade and am just about ready to pull the trigger on the M8. I understand the root/s-off issues with 4.4.4, and know 4.4.4 is the latest OTA, but if anyone out there has purchased/received their M8 in the last few weeks, can you let us know what OS version came on the phone (prior to the OTA taking hold which I know it will try and do almost right away after turning it on)?
Would love to know they are still coming with earlier versions and then plan to get s-off prior to taking any OTA so I'll be good to root and have fun with this thing.
Thanks!
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I cant tell you about the retailers or carriers, but I received a new insurance replacement through asuron last friday and it came with 4.4.2 because I tried firewater at least a dozen times and it would not work. I even tried all the tips listed on xda and nothing worked so I had no choice but to use sunshine. I have seen a lot of posts on xda where people couldn't get firewater to work so I have no clue on that.
Just picked up a M8 yesterday. It came with 4.4.2. After a bit, it prompted upgrade to 4.4.3 which I took. Then it prompted for 4.4.4, which I denied. Confirmed WeakSauce 1.01 failed as has JCase stated. SunShine worked though and now I'm up and running with CM11 again
Got mine delivered from BB today. I'm guessing it had 4.4.2 since it immediately started downloading 4.4.3. I installed it after finding out FoxFi works with that update. Right after the update it asked to download 4.4.4. Without really thinking about it I started the download. I will have to keep declining the install until I make sure FoxFi works with the update. Any idea where to find that out? No contact link on the FoxFi website.
still 4.4.2
I ended up getting mine today and it also had 4.4.2. I was able to unlock and get root and twrp installed prior to any OTA's being installed. 1 OTA was downloaded, but didn't install it.
Anyone know where I can find that OTA download file so I can delete it? It is a large file so would be nice to remove it.....
Since Lollipop was finally released for Verizon Moto G prepaid. I am wondering if it is now more possible to root and unlock the bootloader without paying anything. Lots of people got the phone black Friday last year and wants to root it since it was a cheap phone to get. So lots of people are hoping for a new method for it. Please reply if there is any new info, methods, or anything. Thx
I'm holding off on upgrading in case I get a way to get root on 444, but the nag screen for updating is getting on my nerves so bad I may take it just to make it stop...
I have some very specific reasons for wanting to keep this phone, if only I could get root, then sunshine it, then get a custom 5.1 rom... Ah the dream
I updated my phone to 5.1 on Tuesday (when it came out) and I was wondering the same thing too. I hope someone can find a way to do it
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I'm holding off on upgrading in case I get a way to get root on 444, but the nag screen for updating is getting on my nerves so bad I may take it just to make it stop...
I have some very specific reasons for wanting to keep this phone, if only I could get root, then sunshine it, then get a custom 5.1 rom... Ah the dream
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Did you try temp root with Kingoroot? Supposedly it works on 4.4.4 and apparently not on 5.1... once you have temp root then onto Sunshine and once your bootloader is unlocked you can even take the 5.1 OTA or for that matter any ROM
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Did you try temp root with Kingoroot? Supposedly it works on 4.4.4 and apparently not on 5.1... once you have temp root then onto Sunshine and once your bootloader is unlocked you can even take the 5.1 OTA or for that matter any ROM
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Kingroot has varying degree's of success for me, but the one constant for me is that my temp root has never once lasted long enough for sunshine's purposes. The tests simply take too long, and my root is gone before it reaches a conclusive point.
About all its good for in my case is to backup some files, or tweak a few other quick settings that can be done in less then a minute
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Kingroot has varying degree's of success for me, but the one constant for me is that my temp root has never once lasted long enough for sunshine's purposes. The tests simply take too long, and my root is gone before it reaches a conclusive point.
About all its good for in my case is to backup some files, or tweak a few other quick settings that can be done in less then a minute
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I hear you... so if there is currently no root for 4.4.4 and we don't know of anyone working on a root I am not sure what there is to wait for...
Because if I do upgrade, I can't downgrade. And knowing my luck as soon as I get 5.1 a 444 root will come out. Another issue is I'm worried about storage consumption when it moves from dalvik to art runtime. It's my experience that using 5.1s ART system will increase all file sizes across the board, I'm already strapped for space.
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DaxxTrias said:
I'm holding off on upgrading in case I get a way to get root on 444, but the nag screen for updating is getting on my nerves so bad I may take it just to make it stop...
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Don't make the rookie mistake !!! It's really trivial to block the nagging upgrade screens. You'll have to use adb from your PC and run something like Debloater ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294 ). Then find a program named com.motorola.ccc.ota on XT1028, and block it.
I am still hoping that one day we'll get full RW root with 4.4.4 (for free ).
Good point, didn't think to try this. Also I'm holding out hope for that chrome for Android exploit that was revealed in Tokyo last week at PacSec. When last I checked no details yet, but no patch by Google yet either.
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I am still waiting to see if there is a way to unlock/root Verizon Moto G Lollipop (XT1028). Any luck?
tired of this phone
I'm sorry to say it but I think that it's a lost cause and its a shame its a great phone and it was a learning experience for me. I'll never buy a prepaid phone from Verizon again I'm moving on to the newest moto g. From what I've been hearing MOTOs are going to be phased out eventually by lenovo so I think it's best to upgrade before its too late. Its just my opinion but I think it's a foolish move on their part cause the moto series is one of the best out there for the price I've had Samsung, HTC,and a few other brands that aren't even worth mentioning (zte/kyocera/BlackBerry/I phone) and Motorola is the best value by far the only downside is the locked bootloaders it's a shame no one is working on the xt 1028 it was a great little phone
Kingroot 4.8 works. But only temporary root. and sometimes later everything crashes
System cant be writable, still
I still have my xt1028 and keep hoping people will report root. I've intentionally avoided upgrading it to 5.1 hoping I can get root 1 way or the other
My phone I bought to replace this one (VS880, LG G Vista for Verizon) was able to be rooted, its a crying shame this one still cant be rooted.
I was about to root it after installing busy box (no root) and then running the king-root app a few times after that i was able to root it but only a temp root, however having the temp root i was about to uninstall some of the unnecessary system apps but i would like to have a full root on this phone and a custom ROM i know it is possible because i have been searching the internet for years looking for a way to root it and i have found custom roms and recoverys for it so its possible to root we just need to find how because how and why would custom roms and recoverys be made for this phone if you can't flash then so there has to be something out there that can help.
I'm so sad of hearing this, I just got this phone ( xt1028 ) as a gift two days ago and I was quick to figured out it needs to be rooted because it don't have SD slot so all the verizon crapp can be removed, this news just upset me.
New update??
I upgraded to 5.1 and notice there is an update pending. Anyone know what they are patching? I doubt they would push out another update for this phone unless something is vulnerable.
I guess if obtaining root was possible, someone would have done it by now. I would've liked to install a Marshmallow ROM, but 5.1 works great, so that's something.
Why
I'm always do what ever you said but I didn't find anything I have search