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[Q] Why Root?

I rooted mine and my wife's Captivate and the only advantage I saw was getting rid of ATT programs. I was going to send my phone back (becasue I could not OTA update) But since used Kies to do so. My wifes remains rooted . I am back to stock JH7.
I read you can tell the phone where to install programs when rooted but I did not find a way to do that. What are the other advantages of rooting the phone.
We have one Captivate rooted and the other stock.
Came over from unbranded n97 running Symbian. This is all new to me and I hated the 2 weeks with an iPhone. So far I like this Andriod OS but I have a lot to learn. I have read it is virtually impossible to brick this phone with the propoer tools and knowledge that is readily available........true?

Apparently it is not as unbrickable as people think. Some people were seeing stock phones bricking by trying to update the recent OTA. I myself was rooted and had no troubles.
Rooting allows you to play God on your phone. But be careful and backup everything if you do decide to. Best advice, as I was new to Android as well, is to read as much as you can before trying anything.
Most people here are good about answering questions, if you post in the right forum.
Good luck and welcome!

I guess it really depends on what you want to do with your phone. The only reason I rooted was to remove bloatware. Thats pretty much where the benefit ends unless you are interested in loading different ROMs and kernels.
Also, a word of caution: Be careful what apps you load on a rooted device. Root access gives you, and applications read/write/execute access to everything on your phone.

I also have a question on this topic. Since the original poster said, he can't do OTA updates after rooting is this correct?
Can you root the phone, take the bloatware off, then unroot the phone? Will the OTA now update?
Or do you have to update the original stock rom with OTA, then root the phone?
Can you root the phone, remove bloatware, then unroot the phone?
Thanks

Ihad no problem updating with my rooted phone. All I've done is root and lagfix.
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dynastyice said:
I also have a question on this topic. Since the original poster said, he can't do OTA updates after rooting is this correct?
Can you root the phone, take the bloatware off, then unroot the phone? Will the OTA now update?
Or do you have to update the original stock rom with OTA, then root the phone?
Can you root the phone, remove bloatware, then unroot the phone?
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I rooted my phone......removed all bloat tirf to do the update and failed...Odin back to stock.....failed even after speaking with Samsung and ATT. Of course Samsung said it was not a hardware issue (as if that is all they should be concerned with.)
the Odin process could only be doe ONE way for me and I cut and pasted the method that worked and keep it and a lot of other tips in a Samsung folder on my Notebook. Seems everything but rooting was a hassle until you get GOOD information. That is the hardest think to glean. One has to read ENTIRE threads before they find the solution and not go jumping into the experiments....LOL
A few OPs do update their initial posts with the correct "process revisions"
I likely will root after the maybe someday Froyo 2.2 update. I want to get my wife's phone stock again..........
I finally after ATT decided to replace the phone......download Kies and installed the update that was and all went well. Kies is hit and miss with this phone though, Sometimes it sees it, others it does not.
Funny thing now on my USB selections it doesn't say "Samsung Kies" It says "Samsung Kies (firmware update)" Strange.
Anyway I am a complete noob but I like to learn about the OS as I did Symbian and mess with things now and then. I Am not the type that worries about scratches though. My phones look like war toys. But I usually don't resell them after a a couple generations. I give the previous phones away and keep the current phones as back up for the NEXT phones. The N95s will be given away if we keep these past Oct 20 drop day....

The biggest advantage you gain after rooting your phone is being able to use Titanium to back up all your apps, and Clockwork ROM manager to do an entire backup your phone.
These are nice tools to have, but both require rooting and super user privileges.

if you ask that question, then you probably shouldn't. rooting is for those who constantly not satisfied with status quo of their phones, for those who like different looks and improve on system and have no patience for OTA.
Example:
I bought MyTouch 3G as 1.5 Cupcake.
Upgraded to CM 1.6
Changed back and forth between Sense 1.5 and Donut 1.6.
Upgraded to CM 1.6 with bits of 2.0
Upgraded to CM 2.0
Upgraded to CM 2.1
Upgraded to CM 2.2
My Captivate will eventually get CM 6.0 I hope soon. Who knows, perhaps Sense 2.X will be ported too.
Oh, and lag-fix, overclocking and future color fix are other pluses.

Yeah you,re right. I switched both caps back to stock. I may want something more after Iget to know Android more and find areal need rather than.
do something just because it can be done
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Should I root and unlock

I just got this phone and debating if I should root and unlock this phone. I'm a big fan of CM. I traded a friend for this phone. I used to have a gs5 and touchwiz was driving me crazy and that it could not be unlocked. This phone is way better. I have been rooting and unlocking since the days of the htc eris. I'll never buy another Samsung phone again. Sorry for the dumb post.

So do you have a question? Or what's the point behind the post

Yes, you should root and unlock. I have flashed more than a few roms on this pbone, but I have been on stock rooted for a couple months now. Mostly because it has the least amount of issues and most consistent performance. I got it all tweaked up though. IMO HTC did a great job on the stock ROM but to each there own.
And another big plus is that you can easily unroot and relock your phone back to 100% stock state (thankfully we have all the most recent stock ROM ruu's). So really as long as you know what your doing which it sounds like you do, you can only gain by rooting/s-off

No, wait a few weeks first so you know the phone works. You don't want to be those guys that spam issues in rom threads only to find out it's your phone and not the rom.
A rule of thumb I always follow is make sure it runs properly before you start modding. (Cars, phones, computers, etc.)

the real question is why wouldn't you unlock an S-OFF - full control over YOUR device for only $25 AND you can always go back to S-ON. :good:

I tried to unlock the boot loader through HTC Dev with no luck. My boot loader says ***software status*** Modified
***Locked**
He was running the phone on T-Mobile. I was wondering if he had it flashed to T-Mobile to work. Any Ideas!!

Never mind I just used sunshine apk and worked. Thank god

Bootloader still says modified. Only getting temp root, but s off

Droid0351 said:
Bootloader still says modified. Only getting temp root, but s off
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To get permanent root you will need to install a custom recovery and flash the supersu.zip and that will get you full root. You can then get rid of the temp root by uninstalling the apk

I figured it out. Its been awhile since I rooted and s-off. I already fixed the bootloader saying modified. Had to connect it to htcsync and do a repair. Thanks guys. I'm enjoying cm again.

Just got a new Z3 and want to root

So I just got my new Sony Xperia Z3 but unfortunately it's D6603 model so no 32GB goodness which means I probably need Link2SD as I'll end up with probably about 10GB user available storage after all the updated which means I need to root.
I haven't even turned the phone on yet, it's still sitting there charging, but let's assume for a moment that it's not yet on Lollipop and still running KitKat which should mean I have various easy rooting methods at my disposal, right?
So what I'm asking is what would be the easiest (and most universal/in other words covering the most versions) root I could use.
I don't care about custom this or whatever, I want to keep my phone as stock as possible, I just want to be able to use Link2SD and maybe Titanium Backup, so if possible I'd prefer not to add a custom recovery or mess with anything beyond getting root access for those 2 apps.
I know I will have to check the bootloader first (I assume it's already unlocked though given the phone it's an international version that isn't carrier locked but that's a different problem anyways). But after that is there a recommended one-click root to use that alters as little as possible and covers as many android versions as possible? Or something almost as easy?
I don't want easy because my technical knowledge is lacking by the way, I want easy because the fewer steps there are the less I can screw up and I'm terrified of bricking the phone....so terrified I've resisted rooting my previous two android phones even after getting replacement phones, but I really need Link2SD now.

Should I use Kingroot and then replace the king Super User app with normal SuperuserSU?
Can I still keep root by doing a PC update instead of an OTA one?

SCHUMI_4EVER said:
Should I use Kingroot and then replace the king Super User app with normal SuperuserSU?
Can I still keep root by doing a PC update instead of an OTA one?
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Search forums. You can have Z3 rooted on both locked and unlocked bootloaders or or install custom fw.
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use kingroot with chainfire's supersu

ondrejvaroscak said:
Search forums. You can have Z3 rooted on both locked and unlocked bootloaders or or install custom fw.
Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk
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I know there are many options, I was hoping to be pointed to what someone considers the ideal easy way. My very problem was that I was inundated by potential rooting options but many either modified more than I would have liked or some seemed suspect/too good to be true (no way there are 30 accepted one-click root programs for this phone) so I'd been hoping someone would help me find the right tree in the forest of options I was looking at.
Anyways today I finally turned the phone on and to my great dismay found that it was already fully up to date (well our local network OTA updates may be a revision or 2 behind international updates) and running Lollipop 5.02 and I gave up all hope then there but Kingroot looked so easy that I decided to try it anyways and to my great surprise and tremendous delight it worked perfectly. Downloaded rootchecker and I'm fully rooted. Tried Link2SD and I'm extremely pleased to say that I have all of Asphalt 8 - Airborne's massive bulk as well as Spiderman Unlimited taking up space on my SD card and most of my user available internal storage remains unused.
I think I'm going to stay with KingRoot's app though and not switch to SuperSU, I don't want there to be any chance of losing this root access (I know it shouldn't happen but I desperately need Link2SD to stay happy so I don't want to rock the boat in any way).
So I guess this thread can be closed now.

Black Plague said:
use kingroot with chainfire's supersu
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Thanks. I ended up using Kingroot before this already because when I turned the phone on for the first time I saw that it was already on 5.02 which I thought made it unrootable (without a custom rom, but I may have missread something somewhere) so I decided give it a Hail Mary try and it worked!!
I think I'm going to stick with KingRoot's app though and not replace it with SuperSU, I just don't want to rock the boat and lose that root access (I know it can be done without losing it, but I'm super paranoid).

SCHUMI_4EVER said:
Thanks. I ended up using Kingroot before this already because when I turned the phone on for the first time I saw that it was already on 5.02 which I thought made it unrootable (without a custom rom, but I may have missread something somewhere) so I decided give it a Hail Mary try and it worked!!
I think I'm going to stick with KingRoot's app though and not replace it with SuperSU, I just don't want to rock the boat and lose that root access (I know it can be done without losing it, but I'm super paranoid).
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I would be more paranoid about using quite unknown app instead of rock solid and proven SuperSU..
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ondrejvaroscak said:
I would be more paranoid about using quite unknown app instead of rock solid and proven SuperSU..
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I don't have anything sensitive on my phone, I'd prefer they didn't spy on me of course but as far as I'm concerned they can have every shred of info they want. All I need is root access for Link2SD, I don't need the rock-solid and proven SuperSU for that and I don't want any more features incase that offers more.
Since KingRoot has given my phone a chance at a decent life I'm willing to trust them until being shown info to the contrary (and I mean more than just them knowing my IMEI number).

SCHUMI_4EVER said:
Thanks. I ended up using Kingroot before this already because when I turned the phone on for the first time I saw that it was already on 5.02 which I thought made it unrootable (without a custom rom, but I may have missread something somewhere) so I decided give it a Hail Mary try and it worked!!
I think I'm going to stick with KingRoot's app though and not replace it with SuperSU, I just don't want to rock the boat and lose that root access (I know it can be done without losing it, but I'm super paranoid).
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Easy bro, relax la, do you want to stick with kingroot super user ? its ok but if u flash chainfire's super su, u can uninstall that kinguser

Black Plague said:
Easy bro, relax la, do you want to stick with kingroot super user ? its ok but if u flash chainfire's super su, u can uninstall that kinguser
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Besides having the more trusted app what would I gain from SuperSU? Does it to do more? Besides the engrish the Super User app from Kingroot seems fine.
Can SuperSU also unroot my phone again (should I need to warranty claim) and also try to keep the root permanent even when updates happen (which Kingroot apparently tries to do even if it likely won't work)?
Oh by the way one more question with regards to rooting. Back when I had my Xperia neo apparently OTA updates would make you lose root but doing an update via the Sony PC companion program could maintain the root...is that still the case? Or do I lose root no matter what now?

Pc companion is a worthless pos. Believe me. Look for alts, anything that works with android to your liking. You'll be much happier. Kingroot is not needed AT ALL. Plus I don't like the fact it calls home. Reminds me of the latest lenovo fiasco where programs within the bios are calling home-wtf! Use the tested working giefroot, flashtool, xzdr stuff. My 2cents

Bootloader Unlock and 6.0 Flashing Progress.

Iv started this thread to get talking about unlocking the bootloader and a proven flashing method for 6.0. @LGMONO and @ZVNexus are working on root for a 6.0 tot, if it its authenticated. But, we still need a method for unlocking the bootloader, aswell as a stable way to flash the tot so we can back up and gain root. So for these cases, anyone have a clue where we are at with them?
UPDATE: 3-27-17
So no way for root has been found yet, but its not over. Android 7.0 Nougat has been confirmed for the LGV10 and we are supposed to have it by the end of this month so realistically, I say sometime next month. Now hopefully they will ease up on the restrictions in 7.0. But i have found something interesting with 6.0 on the v10. I tried to install Stump.apk (a root-kit app) and android warned me that the app contains code that tried to alter android or something like that. Anyways, so my guess that a new way might be possible to gain root access. If you can force an app to change its code after being installed, that might work... If it can even work like that. They have over hauled the security on the v10, so atleast your stuff is relatively safe if you do your part.
For now, im gonna start talking to people to see if maybe lg or at&t would consider removing their block once a phone has gone out of warranty. Im on lease for mine so I can kinda understand why they dont want it modified, but if i pay it off or out right, i should have the right to do as i wish for it, so im gonna try to talk with them about that.

UPDATE:
After looking around, some people found success of downgrading to 5.0 or 5.1 with LGUP on the g4. Now it didnt say it was carrier specific, but, if its not, then im beginning to wonder where the problem of just flashing a tot really is on the v10.

Shadow Assassin said:
Iv started this thread to get talking about unlocking the bootloader and a proven flashing method for 6.0. @LGMONO and @ZVNexus are working on root for a 6.0 tot, if it its authenticated. But, we still need a method for unlocking the bootloader, aswell as a stable way to flash the tot so we can back up and gain root. So for these cases, anyone have a clue where we are at with them?
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We are pretty close. This is pretty weird though, when I open boot.img on the Marshmallow TOT, it refuses to open the archive, and fails. The boot.img on the 5.1.1 TOT does not have this problem however and opens just fine. This is strange and it is risky to flash not knowing if it might work. If only I had extra phones to test this lol

ZVNexus said:
We are pretty close. This is pretty weird though, when I open boot.img on the Marshmallow TOT, it refuses to open the archive, and fails. The boot.img on the 5.1.1 TOT does not have this problem however and opens just fine. This is strange and it is risky to flash not knowing if it might work. If only I had extra phones to test this lol
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It might be as simple as just a broken boot.img. im not 100%, but i dont think there is any signitures of authenticity in the boot.img, so you might could use a different one. I have a copy of the 6.0 TOT. Later ill go try to unpack the boot.img and see what i can find.

Shadow Assassin said:
It might be as simple as just a broken boot.img. im not 100%, but i dont think there is any signitures of authenticity in the boot.img, so you might could use a different one. I have a copy of the 6.0 TOT. Later ill go try to unpack the boot.img and see what i can find.
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We would have to use the boot.img from a 6.0 AT&T LG V10 Though, because of Anti-TOT Rollback. Changing the boot.img with one from 5.1..1 would screw that up I think.

I'll pay for mm root, please keep the effort alive. This is the best phone with a removable battery - so best phone I can own - and since I'm stuck with it... I'll pay to improve it, as we all should.
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shepcontracting said:
I'll pay for mm root, please keep the effort alive. This is the best phone with a removable battery - so best phone I can own - and since I'm stuck with it... I'll pay to improve it, as we all should.
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A petition has been started for universal unlocking on the v10.
As far as donations, talk to @LGMONO and @ZVNexus
Petition: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v10/general/petition-bootloader-unlock-rights-lg-v10-t3412069

This may be a dumb question but is it possible to use quadrooter to gain root access on 6.0 and then use the exploit to install super su?

lol i gave up on this phone and got myself a nexus 6, ita hopeless with stingy at&t

shadowcreeper_1 said:
lol i gave up on this phone and got myself a nexus 6, ita hopeless with stingy at&t
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[SIGH].....
This phone is dead. Time to start saving for a "Pixel".

P05TMAN said:
[SIGH].....
This phone is dead. Time to start saving for a "Pixel".
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Its not that the phone is dead, its just that the majority of the people who bought this phone did not buy it to root or anything. They bought it because of the camera. Anyone else would have bought a LG G4, G5, or a Samsung Note. All of those are VERY good options if you want to root.

ZVNexus said:
Its not that the phone is dead, its just that the majority of the people who bought this phone did not buy it to root or anything. They bought it because of the camera. Anyone else would have bought a LG G4, G5, or a Samsung Note. All of those are VERY good options if you want to root.
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I got it because of the removable battery and micro SD support... and yeah the camera too, but at the time it had root, so I wasn't really too worried about it. Guess I'm SOL now.

P05TMAN said:
I got it because of the removable battery and micro SD support... and yeah the camera too, but at the time it had root, so I wasn't really too worried about it. Guess I'm SOL now.
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I mean, its not that bad. Right now without root you can still customize your phone to a extent. You can use a program to disable (NOT REMOVE) any programs you want, so all AT&T bloat doesn't show on my app drawer anymore, same with any LG apps. A nice wallpaper, Nova, a icon pack, and it looks pretty fine and dandy! Right now I have about 4 months left and then I can get a new phone. Not too bad. Was thinking about the new Nexus lineup.

ZVNexus said:
I mean, its not that bad. Right now without root you can still customize your phone to a extent. You can use a program to disable (NOT REMOVE) any programs you want, so all AT&T bloat doesn't show on my app drawer anymore, same with any LG apps. A nice wallpaper, Nova, a icon pack, and it looks pretty fine and dandy! Right now I have about 4 months left and then I can get a new phone. Not too bad. Was thinking about the new Nexus lineup.
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Yeah I still have some time, but I'm going to just save to pay for the new "Nexus" out-right (I think you have to anyways). This is really too bad. I've never owned a phone that was so locked down that we can't unlock the bootloader, root or anything. It's maddening. I should have done better research; if I had, I would have found that the "root" we had for 5.1.1 was only temporary and there was no unlocked bootloader.

Hey all! Good news! A 9-year-old bug called the "Dirty Cow" exploit still exists in the Linux/Android kernel can easily grant root on any Android phone!!! See the video below.
http://www.xda-developers.com/9-year...on-of-android/
So there's another bug to exploit for root and even possibly unlocking the bootloader! The bug has been fixed recently in Linux but hasn't been rolled into Android yet. If anyone can get this working on my AT&T LG V10 (running Marshmallow) I'll give a reward of $50! Plus you'll be my hero! Now get crackin!

Finally LG has released a new software update (Build H90021w) for the AT&T LG V10 H900 phone.
Maybe root is nearby
http://www.mylgphones.com/att-lg-v10...-download.html
http://lg-phone-firmware.com/index.php?id_mod=459

ronallica said:
Finally LG has released a new software update (Build H90021w) for the AT&T LG V10 H900 phone.
Maybe root is nearby
http://www.mylgphones.com/att-lg-v10...-download.html
http://lg-phone-firmware.com/index.php?id_mod=459
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Its possible. The kdz they released could give us a custom TOT. The we just have to figure out how to flash it.

Update
You can view the update in the original post.

I like this phone but need root. This phone on At&T seems dead for development after a year. Just bought an OnePlus 3t 128g with delivery today. That phone has development. ROOT! Goodbye V10.

Explanation: LG V10: Reasons why I vanished:

Some time ago, in the middle of the night I woke up to see my V10 bootlooping, and it was next to almost stock. and I never mess with my v10 cause my htc10 is my daily Driver....
after talking to T-Mobile and and then LG, I got LG to pay for everything including shipping. because my device was babied to death, it was like mint condition, so instead of making me wait for a new board
and so on, They sent me a whole new V10, that was manufactured only a few months prior, which came with updated everything.. So to make a long story short. I have no ROOT.. and no way to get ROOT..
I have Android N on my device...........
Now if I ever figure out how to get root again, I will then pick up where I left off on this device.................
I am one of the owners of the new Project that I personally started some time ago, called PureFusionOS..... we are on 5 devices. officially on HTC10 and OP3 and OP5................
and some how a mediatek device which I still cant figure out how he did that........
anyhow.. With my new found knowledge of ROMs and so on, I am sure of I ever get this device rooted again, I can get a custom rom working on this device with Camera working.........
my knowlege with camera has increased much do to the fact of the issues I went through on the HTC10 to get 4k recording working.........
But will any of this truely happen, as I said, it all depends on if I get ROOT again on this device........... I am running 100% stock Android N ....................
But I wanted to let you know what happen to me.. and why I havent been able to do anything.........................
I do have some ideas on getting root, but I highly doubt they will work.. What I prob need is a rooted TOT file with latest ROM.........

What are the options of downgrading? Acquiring root and then updating?

z.coniglietti said:
What are the options of downgrading? Acquiring root and then updating?
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It is bnot possible to downgrade from Nougat to MM on rhe H901, i've tried and it does'nt work. The bootloader can be unlocked but that is as far as it goes at the moment. As stated by Eliminator there is no root yet for this phone.
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Hi i'm new to the V10 h901 game, i have been reading a lot lately this forum ,can you explain more the situation? what Eliminator is saying means no twrp of the ones posted here will work for the H901 in nougat?, mine came with Mashmallow but i flashed Nougat with lg bridge before reading, i guess im stuck now? i unlocked the bootloader today hoping to flash one of those recoveries but "fastboot boot twrp.img" didnt work so i didnt flashed it hoping to get more information on the subject here.

So I was on a rooted MM Rom, maybe even yours, and used this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3638750 to update to N and kept root. Are there any files I could pull from mine that would help?
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bobbylx said:
So I was on a rooted MM Rom, maybe even yours, and used this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3638750 to update to N and kept root. Are there any files I could pull from mine that would help?
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Not a single thing.. Problem is my device came back with N already on it.. so there is no way to ROOT it at this time.. and its not really high on my list to worry about it.
if I dont root it, no big deal......

No root for N so far. I soft bricked my device, and the only way to get it back was with LG Bridge, and now I'm stuck with stock N firmware. So, we need to hope and wait for someone clever than us to find a way to root V10 with stock N.

If it helps, we can trade devices. Mine is on the latest, rooted and I am going to sell mine. Not much extra value in selling a rooted device. So pm me and we can cross ship. Your device for mine. I'll sell yours on swappa....and you have a rooted device to Dev for the community moving forward. It would be awesome if you could put your new OS on the V10

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If it helps, we can trade devices. Mine is on the latest, rooted and I am going to sell mine. Not much extra value in selling a rooted device. So pm me and we can cross ship. Your device for mine. I'll sell yours on swappa....and you have a rooted device to Dev for the community moving forward. It would be awesome if you could put your new OS on the V10
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I would be down for a swap. Yes, please!
I got the terrible Green Screen Of Death. My replacement came Nougat out of the box. Sadness.
What do you recommend? Should I make a post here? In General thread? At Swappa? Ebay?

Well this seemed really promising and then ironically the person I suspected would drop either a LineageOS build (which I would love, just plain old LineageOS with no major changes or frills for the V10, second screen I don't even give a damn about really, a kernel with a lot of governor support/options would be great too, and here's a Nougat from the factory device he can't even work with, great.
And with nobody really giving a damn about the V10 overall we are probably just going to be stuck at this point from now on, sadly.
Maybe we'll get a small miracle at some point, I'll keep my fingers crossed. Thank you, Eliminater74, for at least letting the community know you're still around and might still be able to provide some magic if things work out.

Try modified LG up as a path to downgrade.... I'm on nougat flashed with TWRP so I never went through the steps to modify LG up. I really think it can work to get back down to 6.0 use dirtycow get TWRP then install the nougat update zip..... I know another person interested in the root of the 7.0 locked firmware going back to 6 had pointed in this direction.....