Having never gotten the rom I was using 100% working I, stupidly, did not set up a full backup. Long story short, things went sour, I can't boot into my rom and I'm hoping I can get some backup help.
What I've done:
Tried everything I can think of to get the rom working
Copied the sd card to my pc
What I would like to do:
Somehow get my installed apps (and hopefully app settings) copied back onto a clean install of the same rom.
There is not enough room to do a nandroid backup 2g free. Is there anything else I can do/can I use the copied sd card as part of a restore?
Thanks.
You can do a nandroid of /data in recovery. But if the problem is in that partition, restoring it will just put you back where you are now.
Does a /data backup do everything I need? I assumed android_secure was required and that's a whole 3 GBs too big.
android_secure is where the apps are stored when you move them to your sdcard. But if you can't back that up, it's academic. /data might save some of your app settings and files.
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android_secure is where the apps are stored when you move them to your sdcard. But if you can't back that up, it's academic. /data might save some of your app settings and files.
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Just curious why there would be an android_secure if this phone has only internal storage?
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Just curious why there would be an android_secure if this phone has only internal storage?
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Because it partitions the storage (stupidly).
If I copy android secure, could I just put it back after a restore, or would that mess with things? Alternately, if there clear files I could delete to make room for the nandroid of android.secure I could do that. Nearly all of my apps are in there, meaning the data backup is a bandaid on a pretty huge cut.
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What is the best way for me to do a full backup, given that there is no sd card. Does that data stay after a wipe? this is pre root. Previously I would use astro, but I'm not sure of the no sd issue. Guess I can mount and backup to pc.
Any suggestions?
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There is an sd card...just that's its internal. The data stored in the sd card is safe after you flash new rom's after a wipe.
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The best way to back up your things are to connect it to your computer and simply move whatever you have in your internal SD to your desktop or wherever you'd like to save it to. That way if anything should go wrong you have it on your computer
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What is the best way for me to do a full backup, given that there is no sd card. Does that data stay after a wipe? this is pre root. Previously I would use astro, but I'm not sure of the no sd issue. Guess I can mount and backup to pc.
Any suggestions?
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You can back it up to the Cloud
if you have Titanium Backup PRO
you have the option to backup to Drop Box
you get a FREE 2GB, when you sign up
which is more than enough, since our internal memory is only 1 GB to backup
He's pre-root, so Tit Pro won't work, as it requires root.
Since he's PRE-ROOT, he will lose everything on the internal sd card if he tries to do the FASTBOOT OEM UNLOCK command to root.
Best thing you can do right now is plug up to USB on the computer, copy all contents to your computer and copy back after rooting/restoring.
The internal sd card is safe from a "factory reset" kind of wipe but NOT SAFE from a bootloader unlock.
AllGamer said:
You can back it up to the Cloud
if you have Titanium Backup PRO
you have the option to backup to Drop Box
you get a FREE 2GB, when you sign up
which is more than enough, since our internal memory is only 1 GB to backup
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yeap, that's the only Drag in the NS rooting method
back in the SGS it was so straight forward, just unroot, and you are done, you don't even need to reboot the phone
much less Format the whole thing, just to get root
Ok, good thing I waited. It's a ***** to export app settings too. Now to pick a good rom.
Thanks for the help.
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OK, copying internal SD contents is easy. But how to make a backup of things from internal storage?
haerwu said:
OK, copying internal SD contents is easy. But how to make a backup of things from internal storage?
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You can't. There's no way.
This is why many of us rooted ASAP, to avoid accumulating data (like Angry Birds progess, LOL) that we would lose once we rooted.
There are apps to backup SMS messages, and your contacts, calendars, etc, should backup to the cloud. All you're going to lose is apps data that isn't saved by the app to the sdcard.
I done a backup with CMW, and on the sd i see a couple of folders and dir, and in one of them there is something like nandroidsomethingelse.....
It's This?
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Files are:
.android_secure.img 2.06k
nandroid.md5 0,13k
cache.img
data.img
system.img
Yes. That is your nandroid backup
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Hi,
Tried to do the nandroid back-up but only the system, data, cache and md5 got generated.
Here is what is shown during the nandroid backup:
Backing up system...
Backing up data...
No /sdcard/.android_secure found. Skipping backup of applications on external storage.
Backing up cache...
No sd-ext found. Skipping backup of sd-ext.
Generating md5 sum...
Backup complete!
The thing is - there is a sd card. Tried several times, but still the same.
Any idea? I'm holding back trying out the different ROMs till I'm very sure that my nandroid backup is done correctly.
Appreciate any help that I can get. Thx!
/sdcard is not an sdcard on the TF. MicroSD cards and USB devices get mounted under /Removable. /mnt/sdcard and its symbolic link at /sdcard are just a way of accessing /data/media in the way that is expected by apps. The Galaxy Nexus does something similar about it.
So arguably if your /data has been backed up then your /sdcard is as well, with regards to the TF101 anyway. The other stuff AFAIK knows how to deal with e.g. the fuse mount on /mnt/sdcard.
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Guilin28 said:
Hi,
Tried to do the nandroid back-up but only the system, data, cache and md5 got generated.
Here is what is shown during the nandroid backup:
Backing up system...
Backing up data...
No /sdcard/.android_secure found. Skipping backup of applications on external storage.
Backing up cache...
No sd-ext found. Skipping backup of sd-ext.
Generating md5 sum...
Backup complete!
The thing is - there is a sd card. Tried several times, but still the same.
Any idea? I'm holding back trying out the different ROMs till I'm very sure that my nandroid backup is done correctly.
Appreciate any help that I can get. Thx!
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As Spidey01 said, /mnt/sdcard is the internal storage of the TF. If it is just a symlink to /data/media then it will be backed up with it in data.img. The script output looks OK. What are you missing? SD-ext is a partition on the physical SD card that is used e.g. by Apps2SD script (not sure if someone ever uses it for the TF) to store apps (allows more capacity for apps that do not enable transfer to SD card). If you're not using such a thing and did not format your sd card that way, the nandroid backup naturally won't back it up.
Thanks for the info. I didn't format anything special for my SD card.
OP has the following
.android_secure.img 2.06k
nandroid.md5 0,13k
cache.img
data.img
system.img
In my case, I do not have the ".android_secure.img 2.06k".
So, is my nandroid complete as well?
TIA.
Guilin28 said:
Thanks for the info. I didn't format anything special for my SD card.
OP has the following
.android_secure.img 2.06k
nandroid.md5 0,13k
cache.img
data.img
system.img
In my case, I do not have the ".android_secure.img".
So, is my nandroid complete as well?
TIA.
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Anybody?
After you do your back-up, do you have this file (without the quotes) - ".android_secure.img 2.06k"
Thx.
I don't know what it is and assume you already Googled it. I also don;t have a large enough MicroSD to back up everything yet.
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Guilin28 said:
Anybody?
After you do your back-up, do you have this file (without the quotes) - ".android_secure.img 2.06k"
Thx.
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My nandroid does not have the ".android_secure.img 2.06k".
It work just fine, I have done a few nandroid restore and never a problems.
baseballfanz said:
My nandroid does not have the ".android_secure.img 2.06k".
It work just fine, I have done a few nandroid restore and never a problems.
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Thank You. Very assuring - did several back-ups earlier and still the same. So why some have, and some don't have. Mystery.
Anyway, time to get dangerous - going for Revolver ROM first.
Thx Spidey01 - noticed you are on Prime ROM - so, you didn't do any backup? You're taking some risk there.
Eh, well that is kind of how I ended up with Prime. When I tried to root with nvflash my display went funky, so in search into how to unbrick my one day old, I ended up flashing Prime v1.4 and kept it, since it was close to stock+optimizztions and that's what I want. In the process of roach's Prime saving my bacon, I gained CWM for backing up; so I didn't have one back then. Can't say that I care much for the ICS style tweaks of later 2.x.y but the tiamat quick controls are good.
It is also very stable and reasonably well maintained (so far), so I'm happy.
When I can get around to getting like an 8gb or 16gb MicroSD, i'll probably do a monthly backup in CWM. I already do use Titanium Backup fwiw. Being my *main* computer, I consider it important, but all the important stuff resides in the cloud or in git repo's.
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Hmm, if I'm not mistaken (correct me if I'm wrong), the 'android_secure.img' is the backup of the area, where you can store applications on the sd card (the move-app-to-sd feature that was introduced in Froyo), so if you do not have any apps on sd this way, there would be no backup.
Actually I also do not do a backup with every ROM change or update, but I always have an earlier backup ready to revert to if needed. As Spidey01, I keep most important stuff in the cloud and mostly copy any new documents to my desktop within a few days after I create them. But it is nevertheless a good habit to backup, even more if you also flash using CWM - it's just a few clicks away.
When ever I change roms it deletes all backups, and even deletes clockwork mod recovery. I have no idea what is going on. This didn't happen on my gnex. I have a 2 gig memory card in it. How can I put all backups and recovery on the card? It deletes the rom folder I create to put all the roms in. I have to create the folder every time I change roms. This is anoying as hell. Please help. Thanks
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When ever I change roms it deletes all backups, and even deletes clockwork mod recovery. I have no idea what is going on. This didn't happen on my gnex. I have a 2 gig memory card in it. How can I put all backups and recovery on the card? It deletes the rom folder I create to put all the roms in. I have to create the folder every time I change roms. This is anoying as hell. Please help. Thanks
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I think your doing something wrong because it shouldn't do that, what ROM hase it done that in? And what at our steps to flashing? As to backups on your sd car when you go to backup there an option to back up to external so card.
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I was running jellywiz, and I flashed the executioner. I had to reinstall cwm. And I had to create the roms folder again, the folder where I keep my downloaded roms. As for flashing roms, I do a factory reset, wipe davlik, and cache. It's kind of annoying having to recreate everything. Thanks
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When ever I change roms it deletes all backups, and even deletes clockwork mod recovery. I have no idea what is going on. This didn't happen on my gnex. I have a 2 gig memory card in it. How can I put all backups and recovery on the card? It deletes the rom folder I create to put all the roms in. I have to create the folder every time I change roms. This is anoying as hell. Please help. Thanks
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Did you flash a 4.2 ROM??? It does that if you don't use an updated recovery.
You are definitely doing something wrong because that is not expected behavior.
A 2GB SD card is ridiculously undersized for backups. A single nandroid or TiBu would likely take all of that space if it even fit. Perhaps it's failing to backup to the external card and defaulting back to internal memory?
sd card size
bobloblaw1 said:
You are definitely doing something wrong because that is not expected behavior.
A 2GB SD card is ridiculously undersized for backups. A single nandroid or TiBu would likely take all of that space if it even fit. Perhaps it's failing to backup to the external card and defaulting back to internal memory?
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I would recommend at least a 16G sdcard. You need that much to stores backups, stock boot rom, custom rom, and you data files to restore. Things like contacts, calendar, etc should always be backed up before you install custom ROM.
CWM is a good boot loader to use as it provides many options and also use something like Titanium backup as your backup manager.
If you do a data reset from the updated recovery will it delete the directory on the internal SDCard where the backup of the stock ROM is?
EFighter said:
If you do a data reset from the updated recovery will it delete the directory on the internal SDCard where the backup of the stock ROM is?
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yes it does
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If you do a data reset from the updated recovery will it delete the directory on the internal SDCard where the backup of the stock ROM is?
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What recovery are you talking about? If it's cwm touch no it doesn't! I factory reset every time I flash a new ROM (and I'll flash a couple a day sometimes) the only way you'll delete those in recovery is if you manually delete a backup or if you go under the mounts and storage menu and format internal SD card.
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What recovery are you talking about? If it's cwm touch no it doesn't! I factory reset every time I flash a new ROM (and I'll flash a couple a day sometimes) the only way you'll delete those in recovery is if you manually delete a backup or if you go under the mounts and storage menu and format internal SD card.
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So I am talking about the clockworkmod stock rom backup. When I backup it puts the backup in the following location which I will call LocA:
/mnt/sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/
This is not my SD card tho. My external SDCard is located at which I will call LocB:
/mnt/extSdCard/
But I also have which I will call LocC:
/sdcard/
I when I go to look at the ‘Phone’ while connected to USB I can see LocA and see the backups, when I use the app SDCard Manager I can go to LocC and I can see that they mirror each other. Why is my stuff duplicated? It is wasting space?
Also when I boot into CWM recovery the menu that says load from SD card actually points to LocA. My fear is that since LocA is really internal memory that a factory reset will delete this and since CWM recovery cant see LocB that I will be locked out. In other words cant load the backup of the mod or the new downloaded CM10.
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So I am talking about the clockworkmod stock rom backup. When I backup it puts the backup in the following location which I will call LocA:
/mnt/sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/
This is not my SD card tho. My external SDCard is located at which I will call LocB:
/mnt/extSdCard/
But I also have which I will call LocC:
/sdcard/
I when I go to look at the ‘Phone’ while connected to USB I can see LocA and see the backups, when I use the app SDCard Manager I can go to LocC and I can see that they mirror each other. Why is my stuff duplicated? It is wasting space?
Also when I boot into CWM recovery the menu that says load from SD card actually points to LocA. My fear is that since LocA is really internal memory that a factory reset will delete this and since CWM recovery cant see LocB that I will be locked out. In other words cant load the backup of the mod or the new downloaded CM10.
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Okay gotcha, a factory reset does not delete your internal memory. What it deletes is your user apps, settings, etc. That is the same place mine is backed up to and like I said I factory reset every flash. However, if you're really worried about under the backup option in cwm select backup to external SD card.
As for the sd card 0 and SD card. I don't believe there are really two files of everything. I believe it's more just naming for the android system, but maybe someone else can confirm this for me
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Okay gotcha, a factory reset does not delete your internal memory. What it deletes is your user apps, settings, etc. That is the same place mine is backed up to and like I said I factory reset every flash. However, if you're really worried about under the backup option in cwm select backup to external SD card.
As for the sd card 0 and SD card. I don't believe there are really two files of everything. I believe it's more just naming for the android system, but maybe someone else can confirm this for me
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Thank you, Thank you, and Thank you for taking the time to answer that.
With that info im confident i wont get stuck in some limbo. During my lunch break ill try to flash CM10 again this time with a factory reset and see if i get further than the spinning logo.
I don't do the cwm touch. For some reason I can't find any roms that I've backed up, So I use the typical cwm. I don't know, maybe it's just me, I'm screwing up somewhere. But everytime I have to reinstall cwm. Thanks for the help
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I don't do the cwm touch. For some reason I can't find any roms that I've backed up, So I use the typical cwm. I don't know, maybe it's just me, I'm screwing up somewhere. But everytime I have to reinstall cwm. Thanks for the help
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I am FAR from being an expert, but i had to reflash cwm everytime i restarted the phone until i flashed it and from the menu selected prevent stock recovery.
I flashed a 4.2 ROM. PA 3.10 to be exact. And it did the thing with the 0 and legacy folders it needed to do for the multi-user feature. I didn't like it and I'm back on 4.1. My ROM is really confused because the folder structure is still on 4.2. Anyway to get the folder directory back to normal 4.1?
I thought I put this in Q&A, I do apologize. If a mod comes along could you move it?
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I recently went through the same thing. There may be a better way, but I formatted the Internal SD card through TWRP and then ran my backup app restore and everything is back to normal. Make sure you copy anything on your Internal SD that you want to save before doing the format...
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I recently went through the same thing. There may be a better way, but I formatted the Internal SD card through TWRP and then ran my backup app restore and everything is back to normal. Make sure you copy anything on your Internal SD that you want to save before doing the format...
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So format the internal? Do you need to reflash the ROM? Could I just restore from a back-up after the wipe?
Thanks for your reply.
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I got impatient and ran it through anyway. Went off without a hitch. Thanks for your help!
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No problem, glad it worked. I didn't have to change anything with the ROM I was on, I just needed to restore my apps since some of were on the Internal SD. I had also read that you could keep the Internal SD and delete the 0 folder, but I got an error every time I tried deleting it.
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I seem to be having the same problem as this except(android.stackexchange.com/questions/61531/removed-storage-emulated-0-file-and-lost-access-to-all-files) there was never a solution. I tried remaking the folders and restarting the phone but that didn't work.
Can anybody help me out?
Soooo you wiped internal storage? Pictures are gone... Best bet is to try Disk Digger or some similar app and see if it works. Also make a backup next time before you do whatever you tried to do as to avoid this situation in the future.
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Soooo you wiped internal storage? Pictures are gone... Best bet is to try Disk Digger or some similar app and see if it works.
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I was thinking that I only wiped the symlink to the files. I will try to see if it helps. Thanks for the tip.
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Also make a backup next time before you do whatever you tried to do as to avoid this situation in the future.
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I was going to, except to make a nandroid backup or backup in general using custom recovery I need to go have more than half of my sdcard be free space (since it back it up to the internal sdcard) and I only had like 500-600 MB free I know you can move nandroid backups to the computer to free up space, but I do not know if I could backup straight to computer since N5 has no space.
victorymobile said:
I was thinking that I only wiped the symlink to the files. I will try to see if it helps. Thanks for the tip.
I was going to, except to make a nandroid backup or backup in general using custom recovery I need to go have more than half of my sdcard be free space (since it back it up to the internal sdcard) and I only had like 500-600 MB free I know you can move nandroid backups to the computer to free up space, but I do not know if I could backup straight to computer since N5 has no space.
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A nandroid wouldn't have helped. It doesn't backup pictures,etc. Use drop box or something or back them up on your pc frequently.
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A nandroid wouldn't have helped. It doesn't backup pictures,etc. Use drop box or something or back them up on your pc frequently.
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From my understanding, a nandroid backs up everything on the selected partition. So /system would save your ROM and its settings, etc. Normally on a phone with a SD card it won't back that up, but the N5 only has internal memory. Backing up /data won't save pictures and videos you took?
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From my understanding, a nandroid backs up everything on the selected partition. So /system would save your ROM and its settings, etc. Normally on a phone with a SD card it won't back that up, but the N5 only has internal memory. Backing up /data won't save pictures and videos you took?
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nope. It just backs up the system partition; data, apps and settings; and boot, kernel
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That's odd. I could have sworn after I accidentally wiped my internal storage I had my pictures back after restoring a nandroid. Still have them all.
OP, any luck with disk digger? I just deleted a folder of useless memes I made with an app and used disk digger and restored them. This is the one I used
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.defianttech.diskdigger
RoyJ said:
OP, any luck with disk digger? I just deleted a folder of useless memes I made with an app and used disk digger and restored them. This is the one I used
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.defianttech.diskdigger
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Running it right now! It has found 6876 files and counting, and they seem to be full size! Thank you so much! That app is awesome.
And thanks guys, going to go back up my files after it's done
EDIT: Shame the file structure is not preserved
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EDIT: Shame the file structure is not preserved
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It's not possible..
You're scanning the drive for actual files on the drive that no longer exist in the filesystem. Think of the file system as a database that tells the OS where the files are. When you delete a file, it doesn't really get deleted. Just the database entry about it.
The files exist whether there is a database entry in the file system or not but if you think about it, unlike files , the folders don't really exist on the disk.. When you create a folder, it doesn't really create a folder on the disk. It just reflects the "location" in the database. Folders don't exist on the disk so they cannot be restored. Restoring the files just adds new entries to the file system. It cannot find the deleted entries and reconnect them with the actual files
Hope this clarifies what you're seeing
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