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Help with Nandroid

Hey all,
I've been searching everywhere in google as well as in XDA with no success. I am trying to do a full Nandroid backup (just like people are advising you to do when changing roms).
I currently have Clockwork 3.0.0 and am Rooted on stock. When I go into recovery, the only thing I have in regards to backup is just "backup" and no "Nandroid Backup" like people are saying all over the forums. Do I have to install something specific? I am puzzled! Is nandroid a method of backing up or the name of a program?
Also, when I backed up using Clockword >> Backup I found its only around 300mb so I assume it doesnt backup your SD content (i.e. pictures and videos + programs) as well? Is there a way to do a FULL image with literally everything?
Any help will be appreciated!

Hi...well backup sounds about right. Don't worry about whether it says nandroid or not. Mind doesn't. Just go ahead and do the backup.
And as for the SD card...well no need to worry there either because the SD contents do not get wiped out anyway, so there's no need for it to be backed up in the sameway.
Hope that helps.
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When I'm looking at the development section, it says that it will "WIPE ALL YOUR DATA". Doesn't this suggest I should also backup my pictures + videos?
Thanks for the help!

The only thing that wipes all your data and sdcard is a fastboot oem unlock, and it sounds like you're already past there. Flashing new roms and choosing "wipe data" in clockwork recovery does not touch your sdcard at all.

It's always a good idea to backup your photos and videos just in case. It only takes a few minutes and better to waste a few minutes than lose a precious irreplaceable video of the kid's first steps.
Nothing should wipe your sdcard other than the fastboot oem unlock, but that doesn't mean it can't be wiped by mistake. I just responded in another thread where the guy accidentally formatted his sdcard. Everything gone.
Better safe than sorry, in my opinion.

haha i agree, will Titanium Pro backup my photos/videos aswell (as you've commented on the other thread) or it just backs up apps ?

co0kie said:
haha i agree, will Titanium Pro backup my photos/videos aswell (as you've commented on the other thread) or it just backs up apps ?
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It will only backup apps/data on the internal rom space, not on the sdcard; so no, it won't take care of your photos/videos.
Mount the phone via USB, select mount USB storage, then drag and drop the folders with your photos/videos to your computer harddrive.
Camera photos and vids are kept in the /dcim folder if you use stock. Some 3rd party camera apps may put them someplace else.
I usually just make a full copy of the sdcard at one point, then use rsync periodically to keep it current.

distortedloop said:
It will only backup apps/data on the internal rom space, not on the sdcard; so no, it won't take care of your photos/videos.
Mount the phone via USB, select mount USB storage, then drag and drop the folders with your photos/videos to your computer harddrive.
Camera photos and vids are kept in the /dcim folder if you use stock. Some 3rd party camera apps may put them someplace else.
I usually just make a full copy of the sdcard at one point, then use rsync periodically to keep it current.
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So I guess this is one adv. of keeping apps on internal rom space.
Making a copy of the sdcard and resyncing it periodically sounds like a good idea IMO, what programe do you use to resync the sdcard?
thanks,

co0kie said:
So I guess this is one adv. of keeping apps on internal rom space.
Making a copy of the sdcard and resyncing it periodically sounds like a good idea IMO, what programe do you use to resync the sdcard?
thanks,
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Titanium will backup apps and data that are on the sdcard if you put them there with the apps2sd feature. It's smart that way. I'm talking about the apps that store settings and stuff (like Titanium itself, Launcher Pro, ADW, the gym log apps I've used, lots of games, etc) that put user data on the sdcard outside of the protected or apps2sd storage area on the sdcard.
I don't use an app for rsync, I just use the rsync command from the terminal on my Mac.
There's a couple of rsync apps on the Market. Someone mentioned using an app to rsync in one of the threads on here not too long ago. Here's an appbrain link to a search on the term rsync, it only shows two apps.

What if I move the app using Gingerbread feature to "move to sd", will it still know to back them up?
/is that what u meant in the beginning by feature of apps2sd? not sure cause there is an actuall program that does this

co0kie said:
What if I move the app using Gingerbread feature to "move to sd", will it still know to back them up?
/is that what u meant in the beginning by feature of apps2sd? not sure cause there is an actuall program that does this
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Yes, that's what I meant. It also covers just about all of the various apps to the sdcard hacks that various rom makers have implemented over the last year or two; certainly the popular ones like cyanogen and darktremor's versions.
If you get Titanium Pro, pay for the license. It will enable batch restore where all your apps can be restored at once without user intervention, otherwise I believe you have to okay each one individually.

I just bought it and performed a batch back up thank you!
Now, assuming i have already perfomed a backup and now if i move the app2sd, will it know to update it next time?
Then, when i jump to the next ROM, all i have to do is batch restore?

co0kie said:
I just bought it and performed a batch back up thank you!
Now, assuming i have already perfomed a backup and now if i move the app2sd, will it know to update it next time?
Then, when i jump to the next ROM, all i have to do is batch restore?
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If you move the app to the sd, the restore will put the app back in its location where it was during the backup. Just run a batch backup of all changed applications after moving anything around.
After you flash a new rom, just run a batch restore: apps and data only, usually not a good idea to restore system settings across different roms.

[Q] Internal storage FULL? (from roms, how do I fix?)

Hello, I have been installing a great deal of roms on my phone and every time I do I see less and less internal storage left. Now I am left with just around 1 GB. I would go in and delete everything on the phone from the computer but I think that would be a very bad idea, can you help me increase my storage?
(I do not have any pictures/videos/music on the phone and clockworks is installed on the internal storage with 2-3 backups)

pclever1 said:
Hello, I have been installing a great deal of roms on my phone and every time I do I see less and less internal storage left. Now I am left with just around 1 GB. I would go in and delete everything on the phone from the computer but I think that would be a very bad idea, can you help me increase my storage?
(I do not have any pictures/videos/music on the phone and clockworks is installed on the internal storage with 2-3 backups)
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You probably have the zip files of the ROMs themselves. Delete those off the phone and just store them on a computer unless you need them.

Sccrluk9 said:
You probably have the zip files of the ROMs themselves. Delete those off the phone and just store them on a computer unless you need them.
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I have a few but that isnt the problem (~1.5gb)

The play store has a useful app called DiskUsage
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.diskusage
which will give you a graphical representation of what's using space.

Clockworks
x-y-no said:
The play store has a useful app called DiskUsage
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.diskusage
which will give you a graphical representation of what's using space.
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THank you very much, this app is great. It shows that CW has 7gbs on my phone. Can i SAFELY delete the blobs folder(and keep backups)?

pclever1 said:
THank you very much, this app is great. It shows that CW has 7gbs on my phone. Can i SAFELY delete the blobs folder(and keep backups)?
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No. The blobs folder holds all data for the backups. Delete backups not needed and blobs folder should decrease at the same time. Blobs was to save space. A normal backup is 2-2.5 GB. Most backup to external sd card to avoid this problem.

^ what he said, just use CWM Recovery to do the deleting of the backups(or ROM manager if that's what you're using) That way corresponding blobs get deleted too.

One question I have about deleting the backups is once I delete the backups I had on my phone, before I formatted my SD to FAT32, the blobs folder never disappears even though I have deleted all of my backups off on my phones internal storage. Is that normal? The blobs folder also stayed the same size even after the backups had been deleted.
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shangrila500 said:
One question I have about deleting the backups is once I delete the backups I had on my phone, before I formatted my SD to FAT32, the blobs folder never disappears even though I have deleted all of my backups off on my phones internal storage. Is that normal? The blobs folder also stayed the same size even after the backups had been deleted.
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Did you delete them thru recovery or a file manager? If thru a file manager then that's why.

Brian Gove said:
Did you delete them thru recovery or a file manager? If thru a file manager then that's why.
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Glad you got that one. I haven't used CWM/Rom Manager since the Tbolt. TWRP rocks. :laugh:

I may have deleted a few backups through a file manager when I first started flashing the many ROMs I have gone through.is there a way to tell if there are still blobs saved that I don't need. My last few deletes have been through CWM would that of got rid of the unnecessary blobs. Also how do I get the backups to save to ext.SD and not the internal SD.

mikeman45 said:
I may have deleted a few backups through a file manager when I first started flashing the many ROMs I have gone through.is there a way to tell if there are still blobs saved that I don't need. My last few deletes have been through CWM would that of got rid of the unnecessary blobs. Also how do I get the backups to save to ext.SD and not the internal SD.
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Not 100% sure if the recent deletes thru cwm would've made all the necessary deletes of the unused blobs.
In CWM there's an option to save backups to the extsd.... you have to do it manually thru recovery. I believe all apps like ROM manager and Goo only let you select the internal.

pclever1 said:
Hello, I have been installing a great deal of roms on my phone and every time I do I see less and less internal storage left. Now I am left with just around 1 GB. I would go in and delete everything on the phone from the computer but I think that would be a very bad idea, can you help me increase my storage?
(I do not have any pictures/videos/music on the phone and clockworks is installed on the internal storage with 2-3 backups)
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^ happened to me - was Picasa sync grabbing my 50GB of photos even though as you said "I do not have any pictures on the phone..."

pclever1 said:
Hello, I have been installing a great deal of roms on my phone and every time I do I see less and less internal storage left. Now I am left with just around 1 GB. I would go in and delete everything on the phone from the computer but I think that would be a very bad idea, can you help me increase my storage?
(I do not have any pictures/videos/music on the phone and clockworks is installed on the internal storage with 2-3 backups)
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I've been having the same problem. I started deleting old backups using a file manager first, then found this post and deleted the rest of my backups directly from CWM.
I found that the "Free unused backup data" option under the backup and restore menu helped get rid of the blob files that were left over from the first deletes i made using a file manager. (freed up around 6gb of space total)

[Q] Late stage backup

Having never gotten the rom I was using 100% working I, stupidly, did not set up a full backup. Long story short, things went sour, I can't boot into my rom and I'm hoping I can get some backup help.
What I've done:
Tried everything I can think of to get the rom working
Copied the sd card to my pc
What I would like to do:
Somehow get my installed apps (and hopefully app settings) copied back onto a clean install of the same rom.
There is not enough room to do a nandroid backup 2g free. Is there anything else I can do/can I use the copied sd card as part of a restore?
Thanks.

You can do a nandroid of /data in recovery. But if the problem is in that partition, restoring it will just put you back where you are now.

Does a /data backup do everything I need? I assumed android_secure was required and that's a whole 3 GBs too big.

android_secure is where the apps are stored when you move them to your sdcard. But if you can't back that up, it's academic. /data might save some of your app settings and files.

iElvis said:
android_secure is where the apps are stored when you move them to your sdcard. But if you can't back that up, it's academic. /data might save some of your app settings and files.
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Just curious why there would be an android_secure if this phone has only internal storage?
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bkmo said:
Just curious why there would be an android_secure if this phone has only internal storage?
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Because it partitions the storage (stupidly).
If I copy android secure, could I just put it back after a restore, or would that mess with things? Alternately, if there clear files I could delete to make room for the nandroid of android.secure I could do that. Nearly all of my apps are in there, meaning the data backup is a bandaid on a pretty huge cut.

[Q] when trying to backup through TWRP my data size is 4.5G !!!! how could it be

hello
I move from Nexus S to Nexus 5
I am familier with TWRP and backing up my device
but i have never had to clear almost half of my storage for backing up my device
and i used to fill it with lots of app some of them with additional files over 1G (Asphalt 7 for example)
i can guess it maybe because of file system or something like this,
as in the Nexus S you connect your system to the computer in a different way and could move apps to SDcard and now everything is in the same place so the "data" get very large
so what one should do? should i uninstall large apps ? should i move titanium backup files ?
it all sound ridiculous to me cause it misses the point of the backup
please Help

what do you expect with so much data? enable compression in twrp recovery, maybe itll be a smaller of a backup? my backups are about 2gb in size.

i expected the backup not to backup unimportant files the same as it does not backup photos and videos.
games files and other large file should not be backed up as they have no meaning the game will download them again after restore if it needs
is there a way to install game sto the SDcard?

Zivonche said:
i expected the backup not to backup unimportant files the same as it does not backup photos and videos.
games files and other large file should not be backed up as they have no meaning the game will download them again after restore if it needs
is there a way to install game sto the SDcard?
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games are installed to your "sd".
apps2sd hasnt been done on a nexus since the nexus s days. thats because they only gave a limited amount a space that you can install apps to. nowadays youre only limited to the amount of total storage space the phone comes with. and every time i restore a backup, my game data gets restored as well, so i dont have to redownload it.

Twrp backs up /system and /data ignoring the sdcard 'section'
Moving your Titanium Backups will do nothing to save your space from your backup because the backup is saved on your sdcard section
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if its better for you, clear the data for those large games then make a backup. then redownload the data.

ok thanks
i cleared the play music cash save myself a :1.5G
but still data is 2.9G
i am looking for the other large files right now
keep on with the ideas please

Zivonche said:
ok thanks
i cleared the play music cash save myself a :1.5G
but still data is 2.9G
i am looking for the other large files right now
keep on with the ideas please
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That's about average for my backups
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Pirateghost said:
That's about average for my backups
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on that you need to add the /system which is 1G itself so it is still close to 4 giga total

Pirateghost said:
Twrp backs up /system and /data ignoring the sdcard 'section'
Moving your Titanium Backups will do nothing to save your space from your backup because the backup is saved on your sdcard section
Sent from my Nexus 5
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it seems that you are not correct
i cheack my /data folder size using root explorer and its 8.45G that means WTRP backing up only some folders inside /data
anyone knows what are those folders?

Zivonche said:
on that you need to add the /system which is 1G itself so it is still close to 4 giga total
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You must have a ton of apps, games and data. My nandroids are about 2.4 g total
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My CWM backups are just south of 1 gig. Granted I don't have a lot of large apps like games on there. With CWM I just mount OTG via recovery(actually it self mounts) and backup to my Meenova card reader. Its got a 64GB micro sdcard in it so space isn't a concern. It might be an option for you. You can also just use a cheap USB to Micro USB cable and a spare memory stick that most people have laying around these days.

You can do fine grained backups via Titanium backup if you don't want backups of the whole system. Otherwise just plugin an external USB stick and save your backup there. You just have to mount it. I've got enough space on my external sd in my galaxy note 2 so I never tried but I just had a look in TWRP and I saw that I just have to select the destination for the backup on the otg device so I think it would solve your problems and you should just try it. Hope this can help you. best regards Martin
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Zivonche said:
it seems that you are not correct
i cheack my /data folder size using root explorer and its 8.45G that means WTRP backing up only some folders inside /data
anyone knows what are those folders?
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Please tell me you haven't been dumb enough to check the properties of /data
/data/media/0 is a mount point of the SD card partition 8.45GB is what everything on your phone is minus /system
And no sdcard by default doesn't get backed up in twrp when you back up /data that mount point will be empty.
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Internal storage space

OK I don't think this is ROM related, but I am running CM11 M11 (I think) but I have had the issue for a while now. My internal SD card only shows about 600mb available. I have literally gone through every file on there and there is no way it is actually being used. Is there any way to format the interval SD card without wiping the entire system? Some how I think the way the system is reading the space is wrong. Because when I go to the storage tab in settings or will show like 10 goods available for about 3 seconds then it shows full. So it really sounds like there is something Hunny somewhere.
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Here is a screen shot of what I am seeing
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Have you tried using SDmaid by Dark3n? It has a find largest files function. For me this problem was produced by either dropbox or box (can't remember which) saving an additional copy of everything I uploaded to my internal storage.
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I had this issue. I had to "format data" in TWRP. Be careful, you will lose everything! Make sure you back up all of your data, photos, music etc to PC. I made a fresh backup to external SD, and was able to restore that after, then restore photos, etc from PC.
Good luck.
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joeclark said:
Here is a screen shot of what I am seeing
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If your recovery is CWM, did you make any backups?

I tried sdmaid and that did not work or find anything.
Ended up having to format my system and that did fix it. I just really did not want to.
As far as backups, no I have not. As my brother in law states I like living on the edge. That and I don't flash add much add I used to, and only 'stable' releases.
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