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i am planning on buying either the htc one x or the xl (both international variants). i am more interested in buying the xl chiefly because of the newer processor....but i cant figure out how to root or unlock bootloader or find a rom here for the xl. most of the things i see regarding the one xl are mostly about the telstra or rogers xl....i dont know whether they are the same as the international variants of the xl.....could some help me with answering whether bootloader unlocking can be done on this or not? can this be rooted? if so then how? & can i install any custom roms or mods in it etc etc?
if your phone is an XL (code name Evita) this is the right forum.
Only the US variant on AT&T can't be bootloader unlocked via HTC Dev.
I wasn't aware the XL was available "carrier unlocked international" because it's LTE and implementation of LTe is country/carrier specific.
gunnyman said:
I wasn't aware the XL was available "carrier unlocked international" because it's LTE and implementation of LTe is country/carrier specific.
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The Hong Kong XL appears carrier independent. I also believe most of Europe, Asia and Australia use the same LTE standards and the phones can be shared between those regions.
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The Hong Kong XL appears carrier independent. I also believe most of Europe, Asia and Australia use the same LTE standards and the phones can be shared between those regions.
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Pretty sure Europe uses completely different LTE bands than North America
Citing Wikipedia:
The LTE standard can be used with many different frequency bands. In North America, 700/ 800 and 1,700/ 1,900 MHz are planned to be used; 800, 1,800, 2,600 MHz in Europe; 1,800 and 2,600 MHz in Asia; and 1,800 MHz in Australia. As a result, phones from one country may not work in other countries. Users will need a multi-band capable phone for roaming internationally.
I excluded north America from my list. North America and Japan are often on non common tech compared to everyone else. For Europe, Asia and Australia it is likely lte will work by just changing apn's
twistedddx said:
I excluded north America from my list. North America and Japan are often on non common tech compared to everyone else. For Europe, Asia and Australia it is likely lte will work by just changing apn's
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Did you edit your original comment? Lol.
Not to remove north America. It was never listed.
Get the the One XL.
Snapdragon has better memory write speed making it slight faster in some usage.
Dont worry Bout not being able to play tegra games, Chainfire 3D will fix that.
as for root/bootlade, its no problem. Unless you have att version you cant overlock but still have custom roms.
i was hoping someone could provide me with links to guides for rooting, & maybe some roms
jhnsok said:
Get the the One XL.
Snapdragon has better memory write speed making it slight faster in some usage.
Dont worry Bout not being able to play tegra games, Chainfire 3D will fix that.
as for root/bootlade, its no problem. Unless you have att version you cant overlock but still have custom roms.
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I have an at&t hox and my boot loader is unlocked u can absolutely unlock the boot loader and I did it with HTC dev...mind u an extra step is required but its simple and it works
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linx1287 said:
i was hoping someone could provide me with links to guides for rooting, & maybe some roms
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Still not clear what version you are looking at buying. If its the dual core Snapdragon S4 version, everything you need is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
If as expected, the US variant of the s7 comes with the snapdragon, and the European version with Exynos, will it be possible to use the unlocked us version in europe with a uk sim card?
I only ask because I'm thinking of getting one, however I'm not really interested in the exynos due to the inability to create AOSP roms for it
Thanks.
I really hoped it would work.
Depends on the source. It'll have to be GSM to be used in Europe. So you'll have to buy either the international, AT&T, or T Mobile variants I would guess
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prophet42 said:
Depends on the source. It'll have to be GSM to be used in Europe. So you'll have to buy either the international, AT&T, or T Mobile variants I would guess
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Actually Verizon could be an option too. We have to see complete specs of each variant but many times Verizon phones have most LTE bands. On the other side Tmobile phones usually come with unlocked bootloader.
Yeah. Too soon to know fully at this stage. Ah the waiting game.
To be fair, a lot of times in the past they've release the snapdragon variant in the UK as well, but you could still always get the Exynos versions imported by shops on eBay for the same price pretty much.
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Anyone got any updates for this? Confirmed that only the US gets snapdragon and that's the one I want.
If it helps, o2 in the uk uses:
900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1,800 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
900 MHz UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+/DC-HSPA+ 3G
2,100 MHz UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+/DC-HSPA+ 3G
800 MHz LTE 4G
Also, does it matter if the verizon one comes with a locked bootloader? Can't it just be unlocked?
any news on the Snapdragon variant? I really hope it's not US Exclusive as i am not a fan of Exynos.
Check your info. UK is getting Snapdragons
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stierney said:
Check your info. UK is getting Snapdragons
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Incorrect. I saw an unboxing video of a UK model and the box said Octa Core on it. Definitely Exynos in the UK.
USA and China only territories to get S820.
UK is getting Exynoss, this has been verified. Early reports said it would get SD820 but those were corrected by Samsung and retail partners.
So, if we aren't able to get root for US variants, what would be the downfall of getting an unlocked (and root) Canadian variant and using it in the US?
How do you know the Canadian version is unlocked
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How do you know the Canadian version is unlocked
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Because I Google it. Seriously. All versions are unlocked except US variants.
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Interesting. And a Canadian gsm device could potentially be made to work on tmo. Might take some creativity and a mixture of hybrid software and patches but it sounds feasible; I'm so glad I waited to get one! Makes me wonder if the bootloader being locked is what's taking so long to bring us variants up to 6.0.1, could they be looking to release mm by ota and locking our bl's in the process?
Edit: cuz i sure don't want to end up updating to mm only to find my T variant now has a locked MM BL!
Rx8Driver said:
Interesting. And a Canadian gsm device could potentially be made to work on tmo. Might take some creativity and a mixture of hybrid software and patches but it sounds feasible; I'm so glad I waited to get one! Makes me wonder if the bootloader being locked is what's taking so long to bring us variants up to 6.0.1, could they be looking to release mm by ota and locking our bl's in the process?
Edit: cuz i sure don't want to end up updating to mm only to find my T variant now has a locked MM BL!
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I mean, the Tmo Canadian variant has 4GLTE. WOuldn't even need to be unlocked, simply get your hands on a Canadian variant.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-...l-twrp-hero2lte-3-0-0-0-t3334084/post65844493
The Canadian one is Exynos but it's the international version. Someone would have to check if that version even supported US bands.
Does wifi calling and VoLTE work on TMOBILE with the Canadian version could someone confirm
duvalbmarley said:
Does wifi calling and VoLTE work on TMOBILE with the Canadian version could someone confirm
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It does not.
If volte and WiFi calling are important stick with the T model
The specs show that the Canadian model supports all the T-Mobile and AT&T LTE: Bands (2/4/5/12/13/17/25/30/41) as well as the 4g HSPA frequencies (850/900/1700/1900/2100)
If you live near Vancouver, Edmonton of Toronto, you can get an unbranded one from a Samsung Experience store and it comes with factory unlock codes
Of course no T-Mobile VOLTE or wifi calling. But everything else, including fully rootable
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The whole reason we want the T-Mobile one unlocked is because AOSP does not support Exynos. There is much more potential for ROM development on the SD820 than on the Exynos. At this point though the Exynos does seem better than the locked Snapdragon. It is also possible that the Chinese version might be the best of both worlds (Unlocked BL+SD820) but I have not heard much on if it supports the important 4G bands for ATT/T-Mobile.
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The specs show that the Canadian model supports all the T-Mobile and AT&T LTE: Bands (2/4/5/12/13/17/25/30/41) as well as the 4g HSPA frequencies (850/900/1700/1900/2100)
If you live near Vancouver, Edmonton of Toronto, you can get an unbranded one from a Samsung Experience store and it comes with factory unlock codes
Of course no T-Mobile VOLTE or wifi calling. But everything else, including fully rootable
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I think in gonna take a look at that now. I personally don't use wifi calling at all, alright i have to admit volte would be a loss for me, well with the loss of the ims service for advanced messaging and i believe native video calling, but an unlocked bootloader and faster exynos (i haven't flashed an aosp rom in forever) chip is almost a flat trade in my book. I might consider it if development for the s7 exynos starts looking promising. I wouldn't be against a fly unlocked exynos s7 edge, that'd be pretty sweet if there were a few roms and some kernel love from a couple devs, but that requires source code so.........time will tell i guess.
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The whole reason we want the T-Mobile one unlocked is because AOSP does not support Exynos. There is much more potential for ROM development on the SD820 than on the Exynos. At this point though the Exynos does seem better than the locked Snapdragon. It is also possible that the Chinese version might be the best of both worlds (Unlocked BL+SD820) but I have not heard much on if it supports the important 4G bands for ATT/T-Mobile.
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Hi everyone, I heard a rumor that the Galaxy S7 has identical internal hardware across all carrier models in the US, and that the antenna bands are simply switched on and off in the firmware. Thus, if I were to buy the AT&T Galaxy S7 (930A), could I flash the firmware to T-Mobile (930T) and have full 2G, 3G, and 4G LTE support with all of the necessary carrier bands? Or would I still be missing a few?
I'm assuming that I would be flashing the firmware from Samobile with Odin and that I need to carrier unlock the phone and the bootloader first.
For those wondering why I want to do this, there's a huge sale on the AT&T model on Samsung's store.
shanez1215 said:
Hi everyone, I heard a rumor that the Galaxy S7 has identical internal hardware across all carrier models in the US, and that the antenna bands are simply switched on and off in the firmware. Thus, if I were to buy the AT&T Galaxy S7 (930A), could I flash the firmware to T-Mobile (930T) and have full 2G, 3G, and 4G LTE support with all of the necessary carrier bands? Or would I still be missing a few?
I'm assuming that I would be flashing the firmware from Samobile with Odin and that I need to carrier unlock the phone and the bootloader first.
For those wondering why I want to do this, there's a huge sale on the AT&T model on Samsung's store.
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I think the only difference in terms of hardware is the processor. The international version seems to be better on battery too.
The big difference overall is that you probably can't root the US version since the bootloader is blocked.
Check these links out for the processor/battery comparison:
http://beebom.com/snapdragon-820-vs-exynos-8890/
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I think the only difference in terms of hardware is the processor. The international version seems to be better on battery too.
The big difference overall is that you probably can't root the US version since the bootloader is blocked.
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I meant between the versions in the US (T-Mobile, AT&T, Verizon, etc.). If there's no differences, then all I have to do is change the software.
I didn't know that the US S7 can't be rooted. Can you unlock the bootloader?
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I meant between the versions in the US (T-Mobile, AT&T, Verizon, etc.). If there's no differences, then all I have to do is change the software.
I didn't know that the US S7 can't be rooted. Can you unlock the bootloader?
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I have a us Cellular s7 edge, currently running the 935u firmware. The s7 carrier models in the united States are basically all the same. There is a root available just check out the other carriers forums. The bootloader cannot be unlocked at the moment.
thescorpion420 said:
I have a us Cellular s7 edge, currently running the 935u firmware. The s7 carrier models in the united States are basically all the same. There is a root available just check out the other carriers forums. The bootloader cannot be unlocked at the moment.
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That's interesting (and kind of scummy for samsung to do especially since they have carrier exclusive sales).
Is the hardware the same for the s6 too?
First unfortunately it's not just one version for all the carriers as some had suggested. The GSM providers phones do not support CDMA. The T-Mobile version is the only one with the new band 66 LTE. The AT&T version is the only one that supports band 30 (the fastest band in my area)
SEE FULL SPECS by following the links
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/galaxy-s8-sprint
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/galaxy-s-8-at-t
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/galaxy-s8-t-mobile
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/galaxy-s8-verizon
So the Verizon model is missing at&t frequencies?
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So the Verizon model is missing at&t frequencies?
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Seems it had them all. I'm curious as to why the att version is. Band 17 if att themselves use the 17 in many places. It's actually one of the main bands of att and they don't have it showing
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osmosizzz said:
Seems it had them all. I'm curious as to why the att version is. Band 17 if att themselves use the 17 in many places. It's actually one of the main bands of att and they don't have it showing
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Band 12 includes band 17. If the phone truly doesn't support band 17, then I suspect that AT&T advertises the band as 12 and 17 to support it.
Guys check this eBay listing, there's something funny about it, 232298704354
Selling cheaper, one unit, faster than official shipping.
The seller feed back is off from picture to details of feedback and also the items sold are entirely different than phones.
Think it's a hacked account?
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So what it seems like to me (im not including sprint nor did I even pay attention to it) is that the Verizon model should work great with both AT&T and Tmobile if one wanted to switch. Looks like the verizon model would be the closes to the factory unlocked model, even more so if they really dont have any Verizon branding on them. But, what is 3G TD-SCDMA that is on the GSM models?
It appears that Samsung's website is showing the same unlocked model for all carriers (G950U*), although I'm not sure why the LTE bands supported are listed (slightly) differently for each carrier. Confusingly, this is a different model than the phones being sold directly by each carrier (G950P for Sprint, G950A for AT&T, G950V for Verizon, G950T for T-Mobile). You can see that that LTE bands supported by those models are different that the G950U as well (the carrier-specific versions seem to have a subset of the LTE bands supported by the unlocked version). I was not able to locate a spec sheet for the G950P.
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It appears that Samsung's website is showing the same unlocked model for all carriers (G950U*), although I'm not sure why the LTE bands supported are listed differently for each carrier. Confusingly, this is a different model than the phones being sold directly by each carrier (G950P for Sprint, G950A for AT&T, G950V for Verizon, G950T for T-Mobile). You can see that that LTE bands supported by those models are different that the G950U as well. I was not able to locate a spec sheet for the G950P.
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What was wrong with the links to each carrier i provided plus the pictures i uploaded?
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What was wrong with the links to each carrier i provided plus the pictures i uploaded?
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The links you provided are all to the Samsung website. The Samsung website does not have the same models that the carriers themselves are selling, as I tried to explain above.
dustbuster said:
The links you provided are all to the Samsung website. The Samsung website does not have the same models that the carriers themselves are selling, as I tried to explain above.
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So you want me to believe the 4 carrier versions Samsungs selling are not the same phones that the 4 carriers themselves are selling?
The phones I ordered from samsung are not the same as I would have gotten from the carriers directly? I'm sorry but i think it's you that is confused.
954wrecker said:
So you want me to believe the 4 carrier versions Samsungs selling are not the same phones that the 4 carriers themselves are selling?
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The evidence indicates that they are likely different... but you can believe whatever you want.
dustbuster said:
The evidence indicates that they are likely different... but you can believe whatever you want.
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Thanks but the links you provided prove absolutely nothing that you said
dustbuster said:
It appears that Samsung's website is showing the same unlocked model for all carriers (G950U*), although I'm not sure why the LTE bands supported are listed (slightly) differently for each carrier. Confusingly, this is a different model than the phones being sold directly by each carrier (G950P for Sprint, G950A for AT&T, G950V for Verizon, G950T for T-Mobile). You can see that that LTE bands supported by those models are different that the G950U as well (the carrier-specific versions seem to have a subset of the LTE bands supported by the unlocked version). I was not able to locate a spec sheet for the G950P.
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I don't see where the carriers list their model numbers anywhere...
Actually, here's other preorders from carriers:
AT&T (Says U)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/galaxy-s8-s8-waiting-t3581697/post71861643
Sprint (Also says U)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/galaxy-s8-s8-waiting-t3581697/post71876304
It's the same model phone but with different FW. It is possible that specific carrier models only support their own network bands thru FW. In the past, the Samsung would actually have different radio and antenna hardware in the phones.
Given the proper FW I believe the s8 series will function identically no matter which carrier model is used provided the SIM is unlocked.
My 2 cents
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equake said:
It's the same model phone but with different FW. It is possible that specific carrier models only support their own network bands thru FW. In the past, the Samsung would actually have different radio and antenna hardware in the phones.
Given the proper FW I believe the s8 series will function identically no matter which carrier model is used provided the SIM is unlocked.
My 2 cents
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That's exactly how the US S7 variants were, only difference was the firmware installed. I'm hoping for the same.