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tmobile htc one s vs unlocked international htc one s

Well now that the Tmobile Htc one s has been released, comes the question:
besides the HSPA speed of the tmobile version, which one would be better for a tmobile customer to get ? the unlocked international version or the tmobile version?
in other words, are there any disadvantages of getting the tmobile version vs the international one ( in terms of being able to root it, S-OFF tool, unlocking, gps locked?, bloating,,,etc)

Well they're really the same beside the hspa+ which you already know. i think you should check out the t-mobile version cause in my opinion it wont have as much defects as the international version.

what defects are you talking about in the international version??

alaasagar said:
what defects are you talking about in the international version??
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I believe he's talking about the chipping that the MAO version is experiencing. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589364
This only happens on the black version so if you order the gray/blue version you won't experience this issue.

The international version does not have tmobile AWS bands sso the decision is prretty much made for you already if youre a tmobile customer.

other than the radio will roms be interchangeable?

TMobile HTC One S will support 42mbps "4G"
International HTC One S won't but it doesn't come with bloatware too.

how about roms?
will the same rom be working on both versions?

International one has no 4G but the T-Mobile Variant does.

Roms should be interchangeable.
They are the exact same phone minus some frequency bands.

If I was looking to pick up an unlocked ONE S to use for my international travels, am I better off going for the INT version? Will the Tmobile version be worse on my battery due to its 4g capabilities? What about Mobile hotspot for tethering. Will I have an easier time with that purchasing an unlocked international phone rather than unlocking a tmobile (with my unlocked Verizon phones I can not use hotspot, even when I am on GSM out of the country with foreign SIM).
I just figured when they come to Tmobile it will be fairly easy picking up an unlocked ONE S from ebay or somthing....

mbd4524 said:
If I was looking to pick up an unlocked ONE S to use for my international travels, am I better off going for the INT version? Will the Tmobile version be worse on my battery due to its 4g capabilities? What about Mobile hotspot for tethering. Will I have an easier time with that purchasing an unlocked international phone rather than unlocking a tmobile (with my unlocked Verizon phones I can not use hotspot, even when I am on GSM out of the country with foreign SIM).
I just figured when they come to Tmobile it will be fairly easy picking up an unlocked ONE S from ebay or somthing....
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same question here

mbd4524 said:
If I was looking to pick up an unlocked ONE S to use for my international travels, am I better off going for the INT version? Will the Tmobile version be worse on my battery due to its 4g capabilities? What about Mobile hotspot for tethering. Will I have an easier time with that purchasing an unlocked international phone rather than unlocking a tmobile (with my unlocked Verizon phones I can not use hotspot, even when I am on GSM out of the country with foreign SIM).
I just figured when they come to Tmobile it will be fairly easy picking up an unlocked ONE S from ebay or somthing....
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The T-Mobile version doesn't have "4G", it is really "advanced" 3G. It has no more drain on the battery than their actual 3G does since it is in fact, 3G.
T-Mobile doesn't even have "4G".

joshnichols189 said:
The T-Mobile version doesn't have "4G", it is really "advanced" 3G. It has no more drain on the battery than their actual 3G does since it is in fact, 3G.
T-Mobile doesn't even have "4G".
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In other words, it should no make a difference for me if I buy the international version or unlocked tmobile version. What about tethering. Does anybody have experience with that?

joshnichols189 said:
Roms should be interchangeable.
They are the exact same phone minus some frequency bands.
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This is what I thought. Would it be possible to flash the One S so that it can be used abroad?

Tethering is excellent on the UK three mobile networkl

mbd4524 said:
In other words, it should no make a difference for me if I buy the international version or unlocked tmobile version. What about tethering. Does anybody have experience with that?
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Well if you are on T-Mobile US, you want the T-Mobile version because the international version will only get 2G on T-Mobile US.
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Does the International version support Wi-Fi calling and VolTE on T-Mobile?

I'm on T-Mobile, but I would rather buy the International version of the S7 to eliminate bloatware and to have the Exynos processor, not to mention the unlocked S7 is cheaper. However, I would like to use VolTE and Wi-Fi calling too. Will I have these features if I buy the international unlocked version?

Cloudrift said:
I'm on T-Mobile, but I would rather buy the International version of the S7 to eliminate bloatware and to have the Exynos processor, not to mention the unlocked S7 is cheaper. However, I would like to use VolTE and Wi-Fi calling too. Will I have these features if I buy the international unlocked version?
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I've never had any of my unlocked phones support WiFi calling or VoLTE, only T-Mobile branded phones did.

you will probably have to flash the t-mobile roms from your country (I guess states?!). If you get a exynos S7 and some t-mobile usa branded roms for that VoLTE and WiFiCalling shouldn't be a problem. Getting those roms for the SM-G930F might be your biggest problem.
-Acid

How readily will the roms be available? I remember doing it for my HTC One M7 a few times and it wasn't too bad.
I also thought some phones like the Nexus 6P supported VoLTE and Wi-Fi Calling on T-Mobile?

The intl version does not have band 12, wifi calling on TMO, or VoLTE support on TMO.
Don't do it.

Thanks.

Sfkn2 said:
The intl version does not have band 12,
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wow really, man i really thought it had band 12...you sure it doesnt have band 12????? :good:
i couldve sworn i saw band 12 listed for the g930f and g935f

el7145 said:
wow really, man i really thought it had band 12...you sure it doesnt have band 12????? :good:
i couldve sworn i saw band 12 listed for the g930f and g935f
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Technology GSM / HSPA / LTE
Frequency Bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (optional) ; HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 ; LTE
Speed 4G
GPRS Yes, Class 12
EDGE Yes
http://www.knowreviewtip.com/specs-price/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-sm-g935f/

https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/Ak5yr/samsung-sm-g935f-galaxy-s7-edge-lte-a-samsung-hero-2
EDIT: you can also check on ebay, the major sellers of the g935f and g930f all list band 12
oh yeah, and finally, heres the actual samsung product page
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/galaxy-s/SM-G935FZDABTU
so, there it is...the g935 has band 12...unless samsung is wrong?

Man, those sites provide confusing answers because there's one g935f owner on this forum who has T-Mobile who said it doesn't support VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling.

scottjb said:
I've never had any of my unlocked phones support WiFi calling or VoLTE, only T-Mobile branded phones did.
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That's because t mobile used to add their specific code to their phones' firmware. But now they're built into android so they may work.

aptalca said:
That's because t mobile used to add their specific code to their phones' firmware. But now they're built into android so they may work.
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When you state now they're built in, do you mean in Marshmallow?

I remember reading that's how the Nexus 6p gained the ability to use band 12 LTE support.
http://www.tmonews.com/2015/12/some...nd-12-lte-support-after-android-6-0-1-update/

Unbranded versions of the firmware do not support VOLTE for some inexplicable reason (the feature is there, just hidden), while some carriers do, they even use the same firmware with only a CSC change (like unbranded the XEF French unbranded firmware vs French Bouygues BOG firmware)
There is no T-mobile USA firmware for the Exynos/international variant but there are plenty of European carrier that handle VOLTE and have no branding, just flash the respective firmwares or CSC using ODIN (does not trip knox) which will enable the feature (you may need to perform a factory init to apply the CSC change)

I'm using the latest XEF firmware in my s6 intl 920F. Where do you get the csc to flash to enable these features?

scottjb said:
When you state now they're built in, do you mean in Marshmallow?
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That's right. Not sure about volte, but the wifi calling was added to marshmallow: http://www.phone-probe.com/android-m-features-native-wifi-calling/

aptalca said:
That's right. Not sure about volte, but the wifi calling was added to marshmallow: http://www.phone-probe.com/android-m-features-native-wifi-calling/
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That's for nexus devices, Samsung only enables WiFi calling on carrier branded ROM's.
If you buy the unlocked international version, you will not get VOLTE or WiFi calling. You will get band 12.
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clubtech said:
That's for nexus devices, Samsung only enables WiFi calling on carrier branded ROM's.
If you buy the unlocked international version, you will not get VOLTE or WiFi calling. You will get band 12.
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Isn't this the first Samsung phone that comes with marshmallow?
Before marshmallow, wifi calling had to be added by the carrier to their rom like t-mobile did on moto and samsung phones.
I don't know for sure, just speculating

Can anyone actually confirm who had the Intl version that volte doesn't work

aptalca said:
Isn't this the first Samsung phone that comes with marshmallow?
Before marshmallow, wifi calling had to be added by the carrier to their rom like t-mobile did on moto and samsung phones.
I don't know for sure, just speculating
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I don't have the s7, but I did have the international note 5. When i received the marshmallow ota, a volte icon appeared in the quick toggles bar. When i tried to click it to turn volte on an error message popped saying that carrier is not supported. I tried both with a T-Mobile and at&t sim.
The s7 may be different, but I highly doubt it.
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Galaxy S7 US Internal Hardware Differences?

Hi everyone, I heard a rumor that the Galaxy S7 has identical internal hardware across all carrier models in the US, and that the antenna bands are simply switched on and off in the firmware. Thus, if I were to buy the AT&T Galaxy S7 (930A), could I flash the firmware to T-Mobile (930T) and have full 2G, 3G, and 4G LTE support with all of the necessary carrier bands? Or would I still be missing a few?
I'm assuming that I would be flashing the firmware from Samobile with Odin and that I need to carrier unlock the phone and the bootloader first.
For those wondering why I want to do this, there's a huge sale on the AT&T model on Samsung's store.

shanez1215 said:
Hi everyone, I heard a rumor that the Galaxy S7 has identical internal hardware across all carrier models in the US, and that the antenna bands are simply switched on and off in the firmware. Thus, if I were to buy the AT&T Galaxy S7 (930A), could I flash the firmware to T-Mobile (930T) and have full 2G, 3G, and 4G LTE support with all of the necessary carrier bands? Or would I still be missing a few?
I'm assuming that I would be flashing the firmware from Samobile with Odin and that I need to carrier unlock the phone and the bootloader first.
For those wondering why I want to do this, there's a huge sale on the AT&T model on Samsung's store.
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I think the only difference in terms of hardware is the processor. The international version seems to be better on battery too.
The big difference overall is that you probably can't root the US version since the bootloader is blocked.
Check these links out for the processor/battery comparison:
http://beebom.com/snapdragon-820-vs-exynos-8890/

charliebigpot said:
I think the only difference in terms of hardware is the processor. The international version seems to be better on battery too.
The big difference overall is that you probably can't root the US version since the bootloader is blocked.
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I meant between the versions in the US (T-Mobile, AT&T, Verizon, etc.). If there's no differences, then all I have to do is change the software.
I didn't know that the US S7 can't be rooted. Can you unlock the bootloader?

shanez1215 said:
I meant between the versions in the US (T-Mobile, AT&T, Verizon, etc.). If there's no differences, then all I have to do is change the software.
I didn't know that the US S7 can't be rooted. Can you unlock the bootloader?
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I have a us Cellular s7 edge, currently running the 935u firmware. The s7 carrier models in the united States are basically all the same. There is a root available just check out the other carriers forums. The bootloader cannot be unlocked at the moment.

thescorpion420 said:
I have a us Cellular s7 edge, currently running the 935u firmware. The s7 carrier models in the united States are basically all the same. There is a root available just check out the other carriers forums. The bootloader cannot be unlocked at the moment.
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That's interesting (and kind of scummy for samsung to do especially since they have carrier exclusive sales).
Is the hardware the same for the s6 too?

Does Sprint version of HTC U11 works with AT&T or T-Mobile after unlocked?

Can anyone confirm that will the unlocked Sprint version of HTC U11 work with AT&T or T-Mobile? I chatted with both HTC and Sprint agents but not getting a sure answer. HTC agent said that even it's unlocked it will only work with CDMA carriers. The Sprint agent said it depends on the other carriers to be compatible with the device. Thus has anyone tested and confirmed it will or will not work on AT&T or T-Mobile? Thanks.

If Sprint unlocks it, it has the radios according to HTC's own specs page. There is no band 30 support for at&t on any model and there is no band 66 for T-Mobile on the Sprint model but the main bands are there.
The question is if Sprint will unlock it for domestic usage though. They have an inconsistent track record with that.

Sprints domestic unlock policy
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unlock it yourself I have confirmed this method works
the US Unlocked & Sprint models have the same hardware, just different ROMs. I have only tested w/ a Verizon sim, but I am confident ATT & TMO will work fine.
if we had s-off, it would be even better, then you could flash the US Unlocked RUU

The hardware is the same on all models so it will work fine once you get it unlocked.
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OMJ said:
Sprints domestic unlock policy
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unlock it yourself I have confirmed this method works
the US Unlocked & Sprint models have the same hardware, just different ROMs. I have only tested w/ a Verizon sim, but I am confident ATT & TMO will work fine.
if we had s-off, it would be even better, then you could flash the US Unlocked RUU
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themuffinman said:
The hardware is the same on all models so it will work fine once you get it unlocked.
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The hardware is not the same across all models. The Sprint model has a CDMA radio and does not support all bands the US unlocked version does but it will work fine on AT&T and T-Mobile.

EtherealRemnant said:
The hardware is not the same across all models. The Sprint model has a CDMA radio and does not support all bands the US unlocked version does but it will work fine on AT&T and T-Mobile.
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I know for a fact the Sprint & us unlocked have the same hardware... No idea about overseas models
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@OMJ @EtherealRemnant Please don't argue in another members thread with what is essentially nonsense, You both provided answers to the OP and let's just leave it at that. I've cleaned this thread up and hopefully it stays clean. Thank you.

Hi wondering if the european version will work in us need some advice

hi wonder if the european version of this phone will work good in us?
when looking on network specs on the uk and us page it seems they support same bands and so but the us version is a single sim and the uk one is a dual sim hope somone can give a good answer thanks in advance.
here is the links to the us and uk sites.
https://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-u12-plus/buy/
https://www.htc.com/uk/smartphones/htc-u12-plus-spec/

LennartL said:
hi wonder if the european version of this phone will work good in us?
when looking on network specs on the uk and us page it seems they support same bands and so but the us version is a single sim and the uk one is a dual sim hope somone can give a good answer thanks in advance.
here is the links to the us and uk sites.
https://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-u12-plus/buy/
https://www.htc.com/uk/smartphones/htc-u12-plus-spec/
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the u12+ is fully unlocked and supports all bands afaik, doesn't matter if dual or single sim. unlocked even supports the carriers and you get the same phone, just different software version. but should work fine

ok are u sure about that ? .Was talking with htc on their chat. but they didn't to make any promises if it will work in us or not. From what i have understood the uk (european) version and the us one has same network capabilities. So in theory the europé version should work on same network as the us one or do i misunderstand ?

LennartL said:
ok are u sure about that ? .Was talking with htc on their chat. but they didn't to make any promises if it will work in us or not. From what i have understood the uk (european) version and the us one has same network capabilities. So in theory the europé version should work on same network as the us one or do i misunderstand ?
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If the bands are complete the same, since it's unlocked anyways and both variants share the same bands for GSM/WCDMA etc, it should be fine. You can always buy the phone and test it and otherwise send it back
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So since I am in the US and have a US u12+, if I RUU using the Exodus firmware, I should be safe, correct?

I go back and forth between Europe and the US, the U11 works there, the U12+ has more bands available. You won't get band 71, unless someone works out an activation hack and somehow the hardware can still use it, even if not the specific band 71 hardware.
You'll get 4G on ATT, you'll get band 12 4G on T-Mobile. If the carriers lock anything out on non-native devices, I don't know. Also the local municipalities may not have certain bands available, either. Too many variables.
A lot of the confusion comes from Samsung and other companies that uselessly institute the same practices as them- they cripple their phones so they can't be used properly on another continent. I would buy an S10, but will be stuck with Exynos and bands not fully compatible with the US, while the US gets Snapdragon, bands specific for North America, but due to the Snapdragon, has a better chance of having the missing Europe frequencies activated.
The idiots pretty much locked out the frequencies for the other continent that would give one 4G, leaving most all others the same.