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Why hasn't the international xl been released? The AT&T variant passed FCC like a month ago and is supposedly being released May 7th. The international phones are supposed to come out long before major carriers in the US -- taking forever!

maybe a shortage of kraits? there was that...
maybe because there is already an int one x...

I've heard that the international One XL does not work well with AT&T because it is not "optimized". Does anyone know:
1) what "optimized for AT&T means
2) is this something that could be fixed through a custom ROM or by flashing the AT&T radio?

paulsalem said:
I've heard that the international One XL does not work well with AT&T because it is not "optimized". Does anyone know:
1) what "optimized for AT&T means
2) is this something that could be fixed through a custom ROM or by flashing the AT&T radio?
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Optimized meaning the band frequencies are not compatible for at&t's frequencies. Which doesn't really make sense considering the international version would be a gsm phone as well and would most likely be using the same 3 bands as at&t does. It can't be fixed by flashing a radio because it's hardwired into the phone. I was going to buy the unlocked international xl to use on Simple Mobile's network here in the US. Now I'm finding nothing on the international xl other than just it saying at&t's xl is being released in late april-early may.

UnlockedNand said:
Optimized meaning the band frequencies are not compatible for at&t's frequencies. Which doesn't really make sense considering the international version would be a gsm phone as well and would most likely be using the same 3 bands as at&t does.
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That doesn't seem correct. Notice below the 3G works, but it's spotty.
HTC sent us the international version of the One X. Though it functions on AT&T's 3G network, it has not been optimized for AT&T's network (or any U.S. network at the moment). In my time with the device, I saw erratic network performance. It found AT&T's network everywhere I took it, but dropped the connection often. Browsing performance was inconsistent, as was the ability to place phone calls. This is likely a direct result of international version's lack of optimization for AT&T. Phone Scoop will also review the AT&T version of this device, so don't place much importance on our assessment of this internationally-banded device.
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http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=10166&p=4925

paulsalem said:
That doesn't seem correct. Notice below the 3G works, but it's spotty.
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=10166&p=4925
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Thanks for posting. That's good to know, as I was (slightly) considering the international version, and using it on AT&T. Primarily due to the increased storage, and also on the notion that LTE sucks for battery life (but still waffling on this point, and will likely go for an LTE device);.
Article sounds like it was written by somebody that actually does not know much about cell phones; as the terminology "not optimized" is conveniently vague.
I'm certainly no expert either. But if its got the right band compatibility, I don't see what could be the problem. The AT&T version will likely have an AT&T specific radio, but I don't see this making all that much a difference. I've tried various radios on my Desire Z (usually based on recommendation for a particular custom ROM) none of which are not AT&T specific, and they all worked well.
My Desire Z is the Canada Bell version, and it works perfectly on AT&T's network. But the Canada Bell and AT&T networks seem similar in various ways, maybe there are some hardware level optimizations (beyond the basic fact of band compatibility)?

T-mobile One S converting to International model?

Hi guys, it's time to upgrade from my old Desire, and One S seems to be really the best replacement.
Unfortunately in my country there are just Z560e models, Z520e models are trading on much higher price
So I'm wondering can I get a T-mobile US version, flash an international RUU and use it with Europe 3G networks?
Here we use primary 900/2100 for 3G.
Sorry if this question is already asked, I searched a lot for the last couple of hours with no satisfying answer coming up.
Thanks

stavel said:
Hi guys, it's time to upgrade from my old Desire, and One S seems to be really the best replacement.
Unfortunately in my country there are just Z560e models, Z520e models are trading on much higher price
So I'm wondering can I get a T-mobile US version, flash an international RUU and use it with Europe 3G networks?
Here we use primary 900/2100 for 3G.
Sorry if this question is already asked, I searched a lot for the last couple of hours with no satisfying answer coming up.
Thanks
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Are all T-Mobile one s using the snapdragon s4? Or do some use snapdragon s3?
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chrikenn said:
Are all T-Mobile one s using the snapdragon s4? Or do some use snapdragon s3?
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All T-Mobile US One S phones come with s4 processor. s3 One S phones are made for Asian markets.
With T-Mobile branded version you have to super CID it in order to flash different region RUUs.
Sent from my HTC One S

how I can perform this procedure if I have a htc 3g band 900/2100 and I have the 1900 as I do I have an s4
Enviado desde mi HTC One S usando XDA Premium HD app

The One S is an awesome upgrade from teh Desire, trust me
Here is a table and some frequency info, but you should probably doublecheck with your carrier if you manage to find someone there who understands what you talk about;.)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/7
From the review:
What’s awesome about the T-Mobile HTC One S is that it supports 2100 MHz UMTS Band I and AWS alongside Cellular 850 MHz and PCS 1900 MHz. The result is that if you either can find one unlocked, or unlock your T-Mobile One S, you get a quad-band phone which supports DC-HSPA+. I managed to get T-Mobile to unlock my One S, and had no issue using it on AT&T. If anything, I wish AT&T would carry a device like this, since I find the smaller form factor very appealing.
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I checked already and my carrier is migrating from 2100 to 900 for the 3G.
T-Mobile doesn't support 3G on 900 Mhz, anyway GSM (voice) is quad-band and can work worldwide.
Hm.. I don't see working S-off or I'm wrong?

No S-off yet

I see s-off is not needed for SuperCID and people are changing their CIDs to flash the latest OTA update.
So everything about de-branding US T-Mobile version boils down to the question "is the hardware compatible with the international RUU and will it have working 3G in Europe?"
I still can not find a trusted answer of this question....

stavel said:
So everything about de-branding US T-Mobile version boils down to the question "is the hardware compatible with the international RUU and will it have working 3G in Europe?"
I still can not find a trusted answer of this question....
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Then you should PM torxx. As he did TrickDroid for TMO US and the international version as well, he could be able to answer this question reliable.
You may find answers as well in these Threads:
[ROM][FINISHED][S4/S3][11 AUG] TrickDroid v7.1.0
[ROM][T-MOBILE-US][S4][FINISHED] TrickDroid v6.2.0
Also searching there is a bit harsh...

HTC One XL Vodafone Germany

How does the Vodafone Germany HTC One XL differ from other carrier / location specific variants of the Qualcomm based phones like the Australian Telstra One XL or the Northern American AT&T HTC One X ?
Some specs from the website:
Code:
Qualcomm MSM 8960 Dual-Core 1,5 GHz
Internal storage 32GB
130g
LTE (Frequencies not specified)
If this has been answered previously I'm sorry and would like to ask a moderator to close the thread. It would be nice to create a table comparing all available variants.

Ok I just compared the Qualcomm One X Linux Kernel sources from htc developers evita-ics-crc-3.0.8-271616b.zip (AT&T USA) and evita-ics-crc-3.0.8-a6dad.zip (Vodafone
Germany).
29 files differ, the majority is non platform specific networking stuff. The platform specific changes are of cosmetic nature and I doubt they are a result of different board revisions, indicative for a match of AT&T USA One X and Vodafone Germany One XL hardware.

It looks you have 32Gb internal storage like international one and Dual-Core 1.5 GHz MSM8960 Qualcomm Snapdragon processor like xl variant. 32GB is big plus!!

dcordes said:
Ok I just compared the Qualcomm One X Linux Kernel sources from htc developers evita-ics-crc-3.0.8-271616b.zip (AT&T USA) and evita-ics-crc-3.0.8-a6dad.zip (Vodafone
Germany).
29 files differ, the majority is non platform specific networking stuff. The platform specific changes are of cosmetic nature and I doubt they are a result of different board revisions, indicative for a match of AT&T USA One X and Vodafone Germany One XL hardware.
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does that mean i could flash a AT&T One X with a german One XL stock rom? and the LTE band/frequencies would be changed too? ie. utilizing 4G/LTE network in Germany? sorry, my questions maybe silly, i am noob.

WuBoBee said:
does that mean i could flash a AT&T One X with a german One XL stock rom? and the LTE band/frequencies would be changed too? ie. utilizing 4G/LTE network in Germany? sorry, my questions maybe silly, i am noob.
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You can flash the rom and everything will work, but you still won't get LTE in Germany. The radio frequencies are set in hardware, and they aren't the same as the North American HOX variant. Everything else should work though, and you'll still get HSPA+ / DC-HSPA+ depending on your carrier.

I have an One XL from Vodafone Germany, too. At the moment I am using King Cobra 1.5 ROM and everything is working fine on T-Mobile Germany network. Can't tell if LTE is working coz i don't have the high speed internet option in my contract but edge, 3g and hsdpa/hsupa is working without any problem.
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda premium

rbrugman said:
You can flash the rom and everything will work, but you still won't get LTE in Germany. The radio frequencies are set in hardware, and they aren't the same as the North American HOX variant. Everything else should work though, and you'll still get HSPA+ / DC-HSPA+ depending on your carrier.
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What do you mean the radio frequencies are set in hardware (like radio rom?) and how do you know?
Does anybody know how to check which LTE frequencies are available on a device?

dcordes said:
What do you mean the radio frequencies are set in hardware (like radio rom?) and how do you know?
Does anybody know how to check which LTE frequencies are available on a device?
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I am not 100% sure how much anyone has actually tested, I think most is based on assumptions.
There is many LTE bands and most just expect the amps in the One XL wont suit all frequencies.
Likely type A: 800, 900, 1800, 2600 MHz
This would suit Europe, Australia and Asia.
Likely type B: 700, 800, 1700, 1900 MHz
This would suit North America.

[Q]Difference beetween XT925 and XT926

As we all know, there are 2 versions of Razr Hd (and hope soon MAXX as well) phone
XT925 that is made for Verison
XT926 that is made for all other world
The main difference is LTE :
925:
4G Network LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600
LTE 700 / 800 / 1700 / 1800 / 2600
926: 4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 13
The question is whether it is software block or those are 2 different hardware phones?
Do want to purchase one MAXX phone for Europe for Verison and want to know is there any chance that it would work with European LTE

Take a look @ this comparison via PDADB:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=3446&id2=3811
It provides you with all the CDMA information versus that of the GSM.
Megafon and Yota both appear to offer Band 7 @ 2600Mhz which appears to coincide with the GSM version. That leads me to believe that using an unlocked XT925 on either network would result in a LTE connection.

myshyak said:
As we all know, there are 2 versions of Razr Hd (and hope soon MAXX as well) phone
XT925 that is made for Verison
XT926 that is made for all other world
The main difference is LTE :
925:
4G Network LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600
LTE 700 / 800 / 1700 / 1800 / 2600
926: 4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 13
The question is whether it is software block or those are 2 different hardware phones?
Do want to purchase one MAXX phone for Europe for Verison and want to know is there any chance that it would work with European LTE
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XT925 is the international version

XT925 is International Version, Now selling here in Brazil...

Henrique. said:
XT925 is International Version, Now selling here in Brazil...
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Do you have it ? already unlocked the bootloader ?

epinter said:
Do you have it ? already unlocked the bootloader ?
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No, I'm intending to buy this month...but I have some friends working on the Latam team in Mot's office in Jaguariuna, they told me that locked bootloader is a request from Verizon, so, maybe the XT925 is unlocked, the XT926(US version) is locked...

Henrique. said:
No, I'm intending to buy this month...but I have some friends working on the Latam team in Mot's office in Jaguariuna, they told me that locked bootloader is a request from Verizon, so, maybe the XT925 is unlocked, the XT926(US version) is locked...
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The XT925 has a locked bootloader, but you can get an unlock code from Motorola.

size for cases
Hello,
On the link you posted the size dimensions are exactly the same, I'm looking to buy accessories(case, cover, tripod, charger, etc) but for some reason the xt926 accessories are much cheaper than the xt925. Will all accessories fit the same for both phones?

Xt925 and XT926 have different radio hardware. 926 has cdma and 1 lte band, 925 has more, but different lte bands.

Which version is the one that is offered by Rogers (Canada)? And, if I get that one, and unlock it to use it in Serbia, are there some 4.1 custom ROMs for it?

mironiko said:
Which version is the one that is offered by Rogers (Canada)? And, if I get that one, and unlock it to use it in Serbia, are there some 4.1 custom ROMs for it?
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Rogers version is GSM/UMTS - 850/900/1800/1900 and LTE : BAND 4 (700) and BAND 17 AWS (1700)

mironiko said:
Which version is the one that is offered by Rogers (Canada)? And, if I get that one, and unlock it to use it in Serbia, are there some 4.1 custom ROMs for it?
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Rogers Canada is XT925. It is the GSM model, you should be able to unlock it and use it all around the world, just be sure the GSM/UMTS/LTE frequencies are compatible.

Thanks. And, are there some 4.1 custom ROMs for it?

mironiko said:
Thanks. And, are there some 4.1 custom ROMs for it?
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Yes, but they are not yet stable...
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

Stupid Question, I have the XT926 and I live in Florida. I am moving to germany in March, will this phone work over there?

Yes, it is unlocked.
Caveats:
You won't get LTE (only 4G/HSPA+)
Every time you boot up it will say "SIM is from an unknown source"
When you come back to the US, you'll have to use VZW. TMobile/ATT are blocked

So im confused...if i live in saskatchewan canada and my carrier is sasktel....using 4g hspa....which phone should get...the xt926 or the xt925.....just wondering cuz i want to buy this phone....thank you

Hey,
There must be multiple versions of the XT925 (international). All of them support the same 2G/3G bands, but differ in their LTE radio hardware:
Canadian version is definitely 700 / 1700 / 2100 (Source)
European version supports at least 800 and 2600 definitely (O2 Germany and SFR France) - possibly 1800 also
Australian version supports at least 1800 on Telstra - may be the same model as the European version?
South American version... no idea?! Same as Euro version perhaps (looks like 2600MHz LTE in Brazil)
Motorola should have given them separate model numbers to make it clearer
Su

Thanks for the info....i love motorola products...always have....but all the cdma,hspa,gsm talk started getting me confused....i know my carrier no longer sells cdma devices....but i was looking to buy this phone from ebay but wasnt sure on the att, verizon or what i needed to look for.....this site has helped me alot over the years with many things and am grateful for all the knowledge the ppl here have

Sumanji said:
Hey,
There must be multiple versions of the XT925 (international). All of them support the same 2G/3G bands, but differ in their LTE radio hardware:
Canadian version is definitely 700 / 1700 / 2100 (Source)
European version supports at least 800 and 2600 definitely (O2 Germany and SFR France) - possibly 1800 also
Australian version supports at least 1800 on Telstra - may be the same model as the European version?
South American version... no idea?! Same as Euro version perhaps (looks like 2600MHz LTE in Brazil)
Motorola should have given them separate model numbers to make it clearer
Su
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Not exactly true. The XT925 firmware is what determines which radios are active. Having 700/800/1700/1800/2100/2600 all active at the same time would drain the battery like woah. Currently you can merge the radio you need into the rom you want to use, and make it work that way. I just hope whatever next "standard" of wireless data communication is more standard and less all over the f-ing place.
For the Motorola Defy, there was a list of radio settings compiled into a apk that would allow you to switch your baseband... Hopefully an enterprising dev will be able to work similar magic for the Razr HD.

Hi wondering if the european version will work in us need some advice

hi wonder if the european version of this phone will work good in us?
when looking on network specs on the uk and us page it seems they support same bands and so but the us version is a single sim and the uk one is a dual sim hope somone can give a good answer thanks in advance.
here is the links to the us and uk sites.
https://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-u12-plus/buy/
https://www.htc.com/uk/smartphones/htc-u12-plus-spec/

LennartL said:
hi wonder if the european version of this phone will work good in us?
when looking on network specs on the uk and us page it seems they support same bands and so but the us version is a single sim and the uk one is a dual sim hope somone can give a good answer thanks in advance.
here is the links to the us and uk sites.
https://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-u12-plus/buy/
https://www.htc.com/uk/smartphones/htc-u12-plus-spec/
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the u12+ is fully unlocked and supports all bands afaik, doesn't matter if dual or single sim. unlocked even supports the carriers and you get the same phone, just different software version. but should work fine

ok are u sure about that ? .Was talking with htc on their chat. but they didn't to make any promises if it will work in us or not. From what i have understood the uk (european) version and the us one has same network capabilities. So in theory the europé version should work on same network as the us one or do i misunderstand ?

LennartL said:
ok are u sure about that ? .Was talking with htc on their chat. but they didn't to make any promises if it will work in us or not. From what i have understood the uk (european) version and the us one has same network capabilities. So in theory the europé version should work on same network as the us one or do i misunderstand ?
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If the bands are complete the same, since it's unlocked anyways and both variants share the same bands for GSM/WCDMA etc, it should be fine. You can always buy the phone and test it and otherwise send it back
Sent from my HTC U12+ using XDA Labs

So since I am in the US and have a US u12+, if I RUU using the Exodus firmware, I should be safe, correct?

I go back and forth between Europe and the US, the U11 works there, the U12+ has more bands available. You won't get band 71, unless someone works out an activation hack and somehow the hardware can still use it, even if not the specific band 71 hardware.
You'll get 4G on ATT, you'll get band 12 4G on T-Mobile. If the carriers lock anything out on non-native devices, I don't know. Also the local municipalities may not have certain bands available, either. Too many variables.
A lot of the confusion comes from Samsung and other companies that uselessly institute the same practices as them- they cripple their phones so they can't be used properly on another continent. I would buy an S10, but will be stuck with Exynos and bands not fully compatible with the US, while the US gets Snapdragon, bands specific for North America, but due to the Snapdragon, has a better chance of having the missing Europe frequencies activated.
The idiots pretty much locked out the frequencies for the other continent that would give one 4G, leaving most all others the same.