As we all know, there are 2 versions of Razr Hd (and hope soon MAXX as well) phone
XT925 that is made for Verison
XT926 that is made for all other world
The main difference is LTE :
925:
4G Network LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600
LTE 700 / 800 / 1700 / 1800 / 2600
926: 4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 13
The question is whether it is software block or those are 2 different hardware phones?
Do want to purchase one MAXX phone for Europe for Verison and want to know is there any chance that it would work with European LTE
Take a look @ this comparison via PDADB:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=3446&id2=3811
It provides you with all the CDMA information versus that of the GSM.
Megafon and Yota both appear to offer Band 7 @ 2600Mhz which appears to coincide with the GSM version. That leads me to believe that using an unlocked XT925 on either network would result in a LTE connection.
myshyak said:
As we all know, there are 2 versions of Razr Hd (and hope soon MAXX as well) phone
XT925 that is made for Verison
XT926 that is made for all other world
The main difference is LTE :
925:
4G Network LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600
LTE 700 / 800 / 1700 / 1800 / 2600
926: 4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 13
The question is whether it is software block or those are 2 different hardware phones?
Do want to purchase one MAXX phone for Europe for Verison and want to know is there any chance that it would work with European LTE
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XT925 is the international version
XT925 is International Version, Now selling here in Brazil...
Henrique. said:
XT925 is International Version, Now selling here in Brazil...
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Do you have it ? already unlocked the bootloader ?
epinter said:
Do you have it ? already unlocked the bootloader ?
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No, I'm intending to buy this month...but I have some friends working on the Latam team in Mot's office in Jaguariuna, they told me that locked bootloader is a request from Verizon, so, maybe the XT925 is unlocked, the XT926(US version) is locked...
Henrique. said:
No, I'm intending to buy this month...but I have some friends working on the Latam team in Mot's office in Jaguariuna, they told me that locked bootloader is a request from Verizon, so, maybe the XT925 is unlocked, the XT926(US version) is locked...
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The XT925 has a locked bootloader, but you can get an unlock code from Motorola.
size for cases
Hello,
On the link you posted the size dimensions are exactly the same, I'm looking to buy accessories(case, cover, tripod, charger, etc) but for some reason the xt926 accessories are much cheaper than the xt925. Will all accessories fit the same for both phones?
Xt925 and XT926 have different radio hardware. 926 has cdma and 1 lte band, 925 has more, but different lte bands.
Which version is the one that is offered by Rogers (Canada)? And, if I get that one, and unlock it to use it in Serbia, are there some 4.1 custom ROMs for it?
mironiko said:
Which version is the one that is offered by Rogers (Canada)? And, if I get that one, and unlock it to use it in Serbia, are there some 4.1 custom ROMs for it?
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Rogers version is GSM/UMTS - 850/900/1800/1900 and LTE : BAND 4 (700) and BAND 17 AWS (1700)
mironiko said:
Which version is the one that is offered by Rogers (Canada)? And, if I get that one, and unlock it to use it in Serbia, are there some 4.1 custom ROMs for it?
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Rogers Canada is XT925. It is the GSM model, you should be able to unlock it and use it all around the world, just be sure the GSM/UMTS/LTE frequencies are compatible.
Thanks. And, are there some 4.1 custom ROMs for it?
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Thanks. And, are there some 4.1 custom ROMs for it?
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Yes, but they are not yet stable...
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Stupid Question, I have the XT926 and I live in Florida. I am moving to germany in March, will this phone work over there?
Yes, it is unlocked.
Caveats:
You won't get LTE (only 4G/HSPA+)
Every time you boot up it will say "SIM is from an unknown source"
When you come back to the US, you'll have to use VZW. TMobile/ATT are blocked
So im confused...if i live in saskatchewan canada and my carrier is sasktel....using 4g hspa....which phone should get...the xt926 or the xt925.....just wondering cuz i want to buy this phone....thank you
Hey,
There must be multiple versions of the XT925 (international). All of them support the same 2G/3G bands, but differ in their LTE radio hardware:
Canadian version is definitely 700 / 1700 / 2100 (Source)
European version supports at least 800 and 2600 definitely (O2 Germany and SFR France) - possibly 1800 also
Australian version supports at least 1800 on Telstra - may be the same model as the European version?
South American version... no idea?! Same as Euro version perhaps (looks like 2600MHz LTE in Brazil)
Motorola should have given them separate model numbers to make it clearer
Su
Thanks for the info....i love motorola products...always have....but all the cdma,hspa,gsm talk started getting me confused....i know my carrier no longer sells cdma devices....but i was looking to buy this phone from ebay but wasnt sure on the att, verizon or what i needed to look for.....this site has helped me alot over the years with many things and am grateful for all the knowledge the ppl here have
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Hey,
There must be multiple versions of the XT925 (international). All of them support the same 2G/3G bands, but differ in their LTE radio hardware:
Canadian version is definitely 700 / 1700 / 2100 (Source)
European version supports at least 800 and 2600 definitely (O2 Germany and SFR France) - possibly 1800 also
Australian version supports at least 1800 on Telstra - may be the same model as the European version?
South American version... no idea?! Same as Euro version perhaps (looks like 2600MHz LTE in Brazil)
Motorola should have given them separate model numbers to make it clearer
Su
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Not exactly true. The XT925 firmware is what determines which radios are active. Having 700/800/1700/1800/2100/2600 all active at the same time would drain the battery like woah. Currently you can merge the radio you need into the rom you want to use, and make it work that way. I just hope whatever next "standard" of wireless data communication is more standard and less all over the f-ing place.
For the Motorola Defy, there was a list of radio settings compiled into a apk that would allow you to switch your baseband... Hopefully an enterprising dev will be able to work similar magic for the Razr HD.
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Since this model isn't out yet, I suppose this is not yet considered a n00b question. I am, and I'm sure many of you are also, wondering if the international One XL and the US version One X on AT&T would be able to interchange radios via RUU updates. If radios are interchangeable by themselves, is it simply a matter of S-OFF?
Why am I asking this?
I'm on T-Mobile right now, planning to use AT&T model with TMo's HSPA+, but then I am moving to Europe in a few months - in Germany, they're using LTE on 2600 MHz whilst UK is rumoured to be using LTE on 1800 MHz (though LTE there is now up in the air again).
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Since this model isn't out yet, I suppose this is not yet considered a n00b question. I am, and I'm sure many of you are also, wondering if the international One XL and the US version One X on AT&T would be able to interchange radios via RUU updates. If radios are interchangeable by themselves, is it simply a matter of S-OFF?
Why am I asking this?
I'm on T-Mobile right now, planning to use AT&T model with TMo's HSPA+, but then I am moving to Europe in a few months - in Germany, they're using LTE on 2600 MHz whilst UK is rumoured to be using LTE on 1800 MHz (though LTE there is now up in the air again).
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ATT bands:
LTE CAT3 - DL 100 /UL 50
LTE: 700/AWS
WCDMA: 2100/1900/AWS/850
EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900
International bands:
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1900//2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
ATT lite band is 700/AWS. That will not work in England or Germany if you have stated the bands correctly. Both versions will work on 3G & 2G in either market.
Band compatibility is set in hardware, and cannot be changed by flashing a new radio, if that is what you are suggesting. So if you need a particular LTE band, the phone you buy needs to be compatible with that band when you buy it.
Thanks for quick responses, everyone.
If I buy the AT&T one but I'm on T-Mobile's (bulls*** fake 4G) HSPA+ which runs on AWS 1700/2100, I imagine that would work still? Or when it mentions 1700/2100 that is segregated for downlink and uplink? If that is so, then dammit, I will have to re-evalute my life!
redpoint73 said:
Band compatibility is set in hardware, and cannot be changed by flashing a new radio, if that is what you are suggesting. So if you need a particular LTE band, the phone you buy needs to be compatible with that band when you buy it.
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I see. I brought up the question about radios because, as you probably already know - since it was on XDA headlines and that, TMo's SGS2 and ATT's Skyrocket + Galaxy Note were able to switch radios. Specifically, the Skyrocket was able to flash SGS2 HSPA+ radio and fully utilise its speeds.
References:
SGS2 & Skyrocket: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4129&idPhone2=4303
SGS2 & GNote: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4129&idPhone2=4374
The comparison of the Intl XL and X AT&T is making me assume that HSPA+ will work on T-Mo at least, since it supports both AWS 1700 and 1200. I guess the Intl XL only supports 2100, which continues to leave me a little confused (when comparing it to Skyrocket + TMo's HSPA+).
Ref:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4614&idPhone2=4572
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You can probably flash XL and X ATT radios, but they will operate on the same bands as always.
I have a very strong feeling that the X ATT radios will be better if you are on AT&T though.
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If I buy the AT&T one but I'm on T-Mobile's (bulls*** fake 4G) HSPA+ which runs on AWS 1700/2100, I imagine that would work still? Or when it mentions 1700/2100 that is segregated for downlink and uplink? If that is so, then dammit, I will have to re-evalute my life!
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Its impossible to be 100% positive on the compatibility, since the phone is not even released yet.
But yes, the band T-Mobile uses (1700/2100) one is used for upload, and the other for download, also known as Band IV.
The 2100 band normally included on AT&T phones (for 3G international use) is Band I. So the One XL will probably not work on T-Mobs 3G network.
They have no reason to include T-Mobs band on an AT&T phone. But they do have motivation for including Band I for its international traveling customers, since this band is widely used in Europe, Asia, and other places.
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Its impossible to be 100% positive on the compatibility, since the phone is not even released yet.
But yes, the band T-Mobile uses (1700/2100) one is used for upload, and the other for download, also known as Band IV.
The 2100 band normally included on AT&T phones (for 3G international use) is Band I. So the One XL will probably not work on T-Mobs 3G network.
They have no reason to include T-Mobs band on an AT&T phone. But they do have motivation for including Band I for its international traveling customers, since this band is widely used in Europe, Asia, and other places.
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Since there is no release yet, we're all speculating - which is okay.
I've been researching mobile frequencies and bands, and it seems that since there is WCDMA support listed on the specifications for frequencies: 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100, they fall into bands:
1 (2.1 @ DL 2110-2170, UL 1920-1980)
2 (PCS 1900 @ DL 1930-1990, UL 1850-1910)
4 (AWS @ DL 2110-2155, UL 1710-1755) could be band 10 (Extended AWS)
5 (850 MHz @ DL 869-894, UL 824-849)
The sole LTE band is:
17 (LTE700 @ DL 734-746, UL 704-716)
whilst 1700 and 2100 are also used for LTE.
DL = downlink range
UL = uplink range
Referenced from:
http://niviuk.free.fr/lte_band.php
The only thing that could prevent cross-compatibility (which, as mentioned, would favour AT&T) is having the LTE chipset separate from the HSDPA chipset. Though the case may not at all be for HTC, Samsung's Skyrocket (MSM8260) and Galaxy Note (MSM8660) have a single chipset that hosts LTE and HSDPA bands - thus their radios are interchangeable.
Do any of you know the specific radio chipset that is used in the One X for AT&T?
I'm assuming it's the radio on the listed SoC Qualcomm MSM8960 - which is also on the international One XL that is specified to simply host the 1800 / 2600 bands.
Referenced from:
Wikipedia entry on the Snapdragons (take this with a grain of salt!)
Snapdragon S4 product brief
As I said, as this is all speculation, a development hack on the modem or straight compatibility, or non-compatibility, could be the case. I'm just going to keep my fingers crossed!
Thanks so far for all of your replies!
To contradict my previous post, HTC's website doesn't even list support for 1700 MHz for the AT&T version of the One XL.
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one-xl/#specs
I don't think it's possible. The chipsets between the XL and X are VASTLY different Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 vs. Nvidia Tegra 3.
The Skyrocket, AT&T LTE Note and T-Mo SGSII on the other hand all use the same Snapdragon S3 Qualcomm chipset.
Taknarosh said:
I don't think it's possible. The chipsets between the XL and X are VASTLY different Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 vs. Nvidia Tegra 3.
The Skyrocket, AT&T LTE Note and T-Mo SGSII on the other hand all use the same Snapdragon S3 Qualcomm chipset.
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Simply in pertinence to my usage of "X" has always been about the AT&T derivative of the original One XL. Sorry for the wording, I'm at my uni's library - scholar mode on!
They may not be interchangeable between one x and one xl but you might be able to do that between one x and one s
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@ senkulpa
Lets hope for them to compatible. Are you contemplating switching to AT&T if they are not?
I'm stuck on contract until November with Terrible-Mobile.
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I'm on T-Mobile right now, planning to use AT&T model with TMo's HSPA+, but then I am moving to Europe in a few months - in Germany, they're using LTE on 2600 MHz whilst UK is rumoured to be using LTE on 1800 MHz (though LTE there is now up in the air again).
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I kind of have the inverse problem to this...
I'm in the UK currently, and hoping that EE's 1800MHz LTE network is given the green light for Q3/Q4 - I want a One X, but it won't be future-proof (i.e. LTE compatible), so a One XL would be great! Also I might be in the states quite a lot over the next couple of years, so it would be nice to have an AT&T LTE-ready phone.
Considering importing the One XL and using it over here - also have the benfit of S4 vs. Tegra 3...
Cheers,
Su
Sumanji said:
I kind of have the inverse problem to this...
I'm in the UK currently, and hoping that EE's 1800MHz LTE network is given the green light for Q3/Q4 - I want a One X, but it won't be future-proof (i.e. LTE compatible), so a One XL would be great! Also I might be in the states quite a lot over the next couple of years, so it would be nice to have an AT&T LTE-ready phone.
Considering importing the One XL and using it over here - also have the benfit of S4 vs. Tegra 3...
Cheers,
Su
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Wouldn't be surprised to see a carrier out their own One XL variant.
I have a feeling that the One XL is international, but will require region/carrier specific versions based upon radio bands. While you can roam on HSPA+, you're going to probably be tied down to specific carriers/countries for LTE service.
Of course, development-wise this only matters for radio firmware and RILs, so development efforts won't be carrier-specific if we get S-OFF.
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Since this model isn't out yet, I suppose this is not yet considered a n00b question. I am, and I'm sure many of you are also, wondering if the international One XL and the US version One X on AT&T would be able to interchange radios via RUU updates. If radios are interchangeable by themselves, is it simply a matter of S-OFF?
Why am I asking this?
I'm on T-Mobile right now, planning to use AT&T model with TMo's HSPA+, but then I am moving to Europe in a few months - in Germany, they're using LTE on 2600 MHz whilst UK is rumoured to be using LTE on 1800 MHz (though LTE there is now up in the air again).
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They're the same radio and software, but physical antennas cannot be changed. Either it has it, or it doesn't.
Hey guys just wondering if anybody has unlocked a One S (bought from a Canadian Carrier) and tested it out on Wind or Mobilicity.
I emailed HTC asking them about the bands supported by the phones and this is the reply I got.
Fido: HSPA 42 Mbps
Bell: HSPA 42 Mbps 2100/1900/AWS GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Sasktel: HSPA 42 Mbps
Telus: HSPA 42 Mbps
Virgin: HSPA 42 Mbps
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Asked them if the other phones had the same bands
I do apologise for the misunderstanding, but the bands would be the same for the One S on each network.
That being said, I will suggest to contact Wind Mobile to verify if a unlocked phone will work to its fullest potential or not. The reason I mention this, is that some providers put a limit on the connection, on an unlocked phone.
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So I was just wondering if anybody has tested this out and knows if it works on Wind or Mobilicity by just unlocking it or if the AWS bands are "locked" just like the Galaxy Note.
Wrong. Canadian One S are not AWS.
If we would have AWS onboard we would have the T-Mobile US phone
NienorGT said:
Wrong. Canadian One S are not AWS.
If we would have AWS onboard we would have the T-Mobile US phone
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:s ugh I was hoping that we did. How sure are you that the AWS bands aren't "hidden" like on the galaxy note though?
Found the unlocked pentaband phones in Canada
http://canadagsm.ca/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
http://sntradersonline.com/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
motionUS said:
Found the unlocked pentaband phones in Canada
http://canadagsm.ca/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
http://sntradersonline.com/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
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Are you sure Penta Band ONE S exist in Canada/USA ? read post #3
As for the official HTC site says. HSPA/WCDMA:Europe/Asia: 850/900/2100 MHz
BUT Your links would make sense according to the note Network bands in regions other than Europe and Asia Pacific may be different, depending on the mobile operator and your location.
I too, am trying to find out too what bands does the Canadian version support
Fido , Bell, Virgin all listed HSPA 850 1900 2100 but Telus only listed 850 1900 , so that leads me to believe 1700 is not supported.
However at the same time, the international version isn't penta band, nor the T mobile version... Where are theretailers getting their penta band One S in black?
Maybe the device is penta band from the fatory but carriered modified ?
My Telus One S arrives next week and I will unlock it but ufortunately Wind doesn't
operate in SK so I won't be able to test it.
I tried to look at the demo phone and I couldnt find the menu option to select networks.
huy397 said:
I too, am trying to find out too what bands does the Canadian version support
Fido , Bell, Virgin all listed HSPA 850 1900 2100 but Telus only listed 850 1900 , so that leads me to believe 1700 is not supported.
However at the same time, the international version isn't penta band, nor the T mobile version... Where are theretailers getting their penta band One S in black?
Maybe the device is penta band from the fatory but carriered modified ?
My Telus One S arrives next week and I will unlock it but ufortunately Wind doesn't
operate in SK so I won't be able to test it.
I tried to look at the demo phone and I couldnt find the menu option to select networks.
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The black unlocked international One S is for sure not pentaband as far as I know and supports less bands than the blue version. I am assuming the blue versions are all the same and just branded differently. My suspicion is Fido/Bell/Virgin/Telus aren't listing the 1700 band so that people do not buy and unlock them to use with Wind/Mobilicity.
That's too bad there has to be someone out there that has attempted to try it on Wind/Mobilicity. It's such a pain how every site/company is showing different specs.
The European version will not work with AWS. Currently the only *confirmed" AWS version is the T-Mobile US version. However if S-Off is ever achieved then flashing a T-Mobile US radio could "unlock" the bands in the European version and other versions a la the Snapdragon Galaxy Note.
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vintr said:
The black unlocked international One S is for sure not pentaband as far as I know and supports less bands than the blue version. I am assuming the blue versions are all the same and just branded differently. My suspicion is Fido/Bell/Virgin/Telus aren't listing the 1700 band so that people do not buy and unlock them to use with Wind/Mobilicity.
That's too bad there has to be someone out there that has attempted to try it on Wind/Mobilicity. It's such a pain how every site/company is showing different specs.
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If you are from Toronto. Pacific Mall can sell them for ~$550 - $600 unlocked. but i dont know rather if its dual,tri or quad band.
got my sexy Sensation z710a from there
joshnichols189 said:
The European version will not work with AWS. Currently the only *confirmed" AWS version is the T-Mobile US version. However if S-Off is ever achieved then flashing a T-Mobile US radio could "unlock" the bands in the European version and other versions a la the Snapdragon Galaxy Note.
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I am aware the the European one does not have AWS. However I am not asking about the black European model. In Canada we have the blue model just like the one with T-Mobile in the States which leads me to believe that the Canadian version=the American version; I just need some confirmation.
vintr said:
I am aware the the European one does not have AWS. However I am not asking about the black European model. In Canada we have the blue model just like the one with T-Mobile in the States which leads me to believe that the Canadian version=the American version; I just need some confirmation.
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You know in Europe they have the blue one that doesn't have AWS bands right? It isn't as cut and dry as black is no AWS and blue is AWS.
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joshnichols189 said:
You know in Europe they have the blue one that doesn't have AWS bands right? It isn't as cut and dry as black is no AWS and blue is AWS.
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Sorry didn't know that, went to the HTC UK site and found all the major carriers that had the One S and they were all black. Why does it have to be so difficult for companies to get their specs straight...
Got some useful info courtesy of 'HC - NO "i"' on HowardForums
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...us-supports-2100-band?p=14822292#post14822292
Does anybody mind looking under the cover for the model / FCC ID / Industry Canada certification numbers and reporting back with the carrier they got the phone from and the FCC ID. They should be printed on the label near the headphones / headset jack.
These are the variants available in Canada.
PJ40100: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40110: UMTS Band II (1900)/IV (AWS)/V (850)
PJ40200: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40210: UMTS Band II (1900)/V (850)
I went to Telus and Bell today ( the Fido and Sasktel stores didn't have working demo models ), I checked the FCC tags and both of them showed "PJ40110". on the top line.
I didn't look at the FCC ID or IC.
huy397 said:
I went to Telus and Bell today ( the Fido and Sasktel stores didn't have working demo models ), I checked the FCC tags and both of them showed "PJ40110". on the top line.
I didn't look at the FCC ID or IC.
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So it should support AWS then. Hopefully someone can confirm for me that the Canadian version will work on Wind/Mobilicity with a simple unlock without going through the same trouble as the galaxy note
vintr said:
PJ40110: UMTS Band II (1900)/IV (AWS)/V (850)
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That's very interesting...
vintr said:
So it should support AWS then. Hopefully someone can confirm for me that the Canadian version will work on Wind/Mobilicity with a simple unlock without going through the same trouble as the galaxy note
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Well, if nobody confirm it before that I cut my Vidéotron SIM (Québec's AWS carrier) to a MicroSIM and unlock my phone, I'll tell ya.
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With the hack @ascot17 found, I was able to unlock my phone and it works on AWS! (well, I can't test data as this account don't have data, but without AWS it shouldn't write Vidéotron but "Partner" since they don't have a GSM network).
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NienorGT said:
With the hack @ascot17 found, I was able to unlock my phone and it works on AWS! (well, I can't test data as this account don't have data, but without AWS it shouldn't write Vidéotron but "Partner" since they don't have a GSM network).
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Awesome! Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it. Now I can safely go out and buy this with no worries
Please be aware that you will buy an unsupported phone, unlock the bootloader to root the phone, most probably voiding your warranty in the process (there's talk that the root-only (and not requiring unlocked bootloader) method for the NA One X works on the One S) then Sim-unlock the phone (by a paid code or the new hack), find the APNs for your carrier...
... And hope that all works...
I don't want to scare you but make sure you fully understand all risks. Specially if you buy the phone outright and don't have an account on that carrier...
Despite the fact that I can't test data (as it should be locked in my account) here is a shot telling that I'm on 3G UTMS (which can't be done with this SIM on a non-AWS phone like my iPhone).
I got one from Virginmobile had it unlocked it and am now using it on Mobilicity.
The Rep at the store assured me it wont work but i tried it and it did.
Reason for buying from there was because it was on sale.
I was wondering if the Droid Razr Maxx HD for Verizon will work in Canada or do we have to wait for them to release a GSM/International model?
Pretty sure it won't on the HSPA/LTE networks. Only AT&T phones have the bands to support the Bell/Telus/Rogers HSPA/LTE networks.
I just need to figure out where I can buy a canadian one from now to use on AT&T...
EDIT:
@rajeshr
With VZWs newest spectrum deals, I thought they had to leave their LTE phones unlocked now? Even so, if it was unlocked with its global GSM capabilities turned on, I think it would only get HSPA+/UTMS/EDGE on AT&T...
overlord727 said:
I just need to figure out where I can buy a canadian one from now to use on AT&T...
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@rajeshr
With VZWs newest spectrum deals, I thought they had to leave their LTE phones unlocked now? Even so, if it was unlocked with its global GSM capabilities turned on, I think it would only get HSPA+/UTMS/EDGE on AT&T...
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You could find a Canadian to pick up one for you and have it shipped over. It would put you back about $700 for a brand new one shipped to you ($600 + $72(tax in BC) + $25 (shipping) + $7(unlock)).
I'm not sure of VZW's LTE phone unlock status, but I think you'd only be able to get GSM network (EDGE) on this phone on AT&T.
rajeshr said:
Pretty sure it won't on the HSPA/LTE networks. Only AT&T phones have the bands to support the Bell/Telus/Rogers HSPA/LTE networks.
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The Razr HD is quad band for 3G (HSDPA), which means it supports pretty much every network. Only LTE won't work.
pfak said:
The Razr HD is quad band for 3G (HSDPA), which means it supports pretty much every network. Only LTE won't work.
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My mistake! You are absolutely correct. I should read a bit more before I respond!
Here are the supported bands:
Droid Razr HD
CDMA 800 1900, LTE B13, WCDMA 850 900 1900 2100, GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 EVDO Rev. A, HSDPA 21.1 Mbps (Cat 14), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
Rogers Razr HD LTE
LTE B4 B17, WCDMA 850 900 1900 2100, GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900, HSDPA 21.1 Mbps (Cat 14), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
does this phone could get unlocked to work in mexico? right now mexico dont support LTE/4g but at the same time Telcel, Movistar and Iusacell got the Galaxy S3, and this one supports 4g/lte, but i dont know if i can get one hd from verizon to get it work here on mexico, as far as i know, mexico works with gsm phones right? and this one is cdma
Pretty expensive! I think I might just wait to see if someone with a VZW one can prove if it works on a GSM carrier... Or wait for the next nexus...
Where are you guys purchasing your MAXX HD in Canada? The usual online suspects don't have it yet.
So would the Razr Maxx HD (verizon model) work in Canada (telus) on 4G or would it only be 3G/Edge service?
mcsingh said:
So would the Razr Maxx HD (verizon model) work in Canada (telus) on 4G or would it only be 3G/Edge service?
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Based on the charts:
LTE = No
HSPA = Yes
GSM = Yes
The 4G moniker is misleading. It should be used for LTE, but the providers in Canada have called their 3G+ networks (HSPA) 4G and confusing all their customers.
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pfak said:
Where are you guys purchasing your MAXX HD in Canada? The usual online suspects don't have it yet.
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My bad. I was talking about the Razr HD LTE, not the MAXX HD. I don't know of anyone in Canada selling the MAXX HD.
rajeshr said:
Based on the charts:
LTE = No
HSPA = Yes
GSM = Yes
The 4G moniker is misleading. It should be used for LTE, but the providers in Canada have called their 3G+ networks (HSPA) 4G and confusing all their customers.
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My bad. I was talking about the Razr HD LTE, not the MAXX HD. I don't know of anyone in Canada selling the MAXX HD.
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Based on your reply, you are telling us that this devices should work out of the box, with no additional software modification on international carriers, right?
One thing that wasn't clear to me is, does the Verizon devices (or at least any Razr HD) are sold with unlocked GSM radios?
@OP wait a month.I expect either Telus of Bell to pick up the MAXX version for the holidays. I couldn't wait nor wanted the MAXX, but my bet is on Bell picking up the MAXX.
hex_hack said:
Based on your reply, you are telling us that this devices should work out of the box, with no additional software modification on international carriers, right?
One thing that wasn't clear to me is, does the Verizon devices (or at least any Razr HD) are sold with unlocked GSM radios?
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No, that's not exactly what I said.
Sorry to be pedantic, but what I said was the Verizon Razr HD has the radios required to be compatible with the Bell\Rogers\Telus HSPA & the Rogers GSM network in Canada. I am not saying that this device would work out of the box without any modification as I do not know whether the Verizon Razr HD (or Razr HD MAXX) is unlocked for these carriers. If it is unlocked, it should work without any other modifications. However, if not, I assume you can get an unlock code to allow other networks to be used.
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No, that's not exactly what I said.
Sorry to be pedantic, but what I said was the Verizon Razr HD has the radios required to be compatible with the Bell\Rogers\Telus HSPA & the Rogers GSM network in Canada. I am not saying that this device would work out of the box without any modification as I do not know whether the Verizon Razr HD (or Razr HD MAXX) is unlocked for these carriers. If it is unlocked, it should work without any other modifications. However, if not, I assume you can get an unlock code to allow other networks to be used.
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Thanks for your answer, now it would be good if someone could confirm the lock status of the GSM radio of these devices.
Motorola razr droid maxx hd
I want to buy a phone and use Verizone in another country is not USA, how to get the unlock code and when it might occur? It makes sense to buy the phone and wait? The phone will work with GSM without code unlock????
hex_hack said:
Thanks for your answer, now it would be good if someone could confirm the lock status of the GSM radio of these devices.
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For what its worth, I emailed Verizon and the dude that replied told me that it was GSM unlocked for carriers outside USA.
"Thank you for your inquiry regarding the Droid Razr Maxx HD. My name is Michael, and I am happy to confirm that this device is unlocked as well. You would simply need to power off the device, insert the sim card that you would use overseas, and then power it back on to use it."
koala72 said:
For what its worth, I emailed Verizon and the dude that replied told me that it was GSM unlocked for carriers outside USA.
"Thank you for your inquiry regarding the Droid Razr Maxx HD. My name is Michael, and I am happy to confirm that this device is unlocked as well. You would simply need to power off the device, insert the sim card that you would use overseas, and then power it back on to use it."
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It would be unlocking it with a subsidy code or something like cellunlocking.net right? Im thinking to buy the razr maxx hd with verizon and use it here in mexico but first i need to be sure that it would work
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Verizon informed me that their 'world phones' (e.g. their razr series) are sim-unlocked for international use from the manufacturer.
However some people have reported that for AT&T and TMobile (national GSM carrier) that they have blocked their SIM usage.
Therefore I would assume that all bands would be available to use if you had any international SIM in there, Canada and Mexico etc, the only compatibility would be the LTE bands - if another country used the same LTE bands as the USA Razr, then I would think you would be able to utilise the 4g.
versd said:
Verizon informed me that their 'world phones' (e.g. their razr series) are sim-unlocked for international use from the manufacturer.
However some people have reported that for AT&T and TMobile (national GSM carrier) that they have blocked their SIM usage.
Therefore I would assume that all bands would be available to use if you had any international SIM in there, Canada and Mexico etc, the only compatibility would be the LTE bands - if another country used the same LTE bands as the USA Razr, then I would think you would be able to utilise the 4g.
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If theres not compability with 4g it would be on 3g/H?
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Hello,
I recently picked up the GSM version (Rogers) and am having issues with unlocking.
I've tried two online services without luck.
As you can see, I am trying to avoid paying the $50 fee that is being requested from the carrier.
Can anyone recommend a reputable vendor?
A_H_E said:
Hello,
I recently picked up the GSM version (Rogers) and am having issues with unlocking.
I've tried two online services without luck.
As you can see, I am trying to avoid paying the $50 fee that is being requested from the carrier.
Can anyone recommend a reputable vendor?
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Whom have you tried unlocking it with? Have you tried cellunlocker.net? They claim to have an unlock code for the RAZR HD.
rajeshr said:
Have you tried cellunlocker.net?
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Confirmed. Successfully unlocked 2 RAZR HDs both locked to Orange (France).
Thank you both for the suggestions.
I tried theunlockshack.com but they could not locate an unlock code (but they graciously refunded my money).
Additionally, I tried a reseller on eBay but they were also unable to locate a code.
Ultimately, I utilized a local shop and had it unlocked in a matter of minutes. Not my first choice because of the cost but I am up and running.
All the best!
I found this website too if someone need
http://cellphoneunlock.net/products/unlock-motorola-razr-hd/?carrier
A_H_E said:
Thank you both for the suggestions.
I tried theunlockshack.com but they could not locate an unlock code (but they graciously refunded my money).
Additionally, I tried a reseller on eBay but they were also unable to locate a code.
Ultimately, I utilized a local shop and had it unlocked in a matter of minutes. Not my first choice because of the cost but I am up and running.
All the best!
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do you know if by any chance if this phone could work in mexico? i think it would cost me cheaper to buy it on the united states that here in mexico when they release it, but i dont pretty much about unlocking and all that stuff to make it work, and it works at its 100% or have issues or something
android69800 said:
I found this website too if someone need
http://cellphoneunlock.net/products/unlock-motorola-razr-hd/?carrier
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If i buy a verizon razr hd maxx and also buy one of this codes would i be able to use it in my country (mexico) without a problem?
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I used cellunlocker.net. You must specify a "Droid Razr HD".
vietnam
rubennd said:
If i buy a verizon razr hd maxx and also buy one of this codes would i be able to use it in my country (mexico) without a problem?
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do is use vietnam?
To address the questions concerning different countries, consider the following:
You can purchase the Verizon model (Droid Razr Maxx HD - XT926) or the GSM variant (Razr HD - XT925).
Both models take a SIM meaning they can be unlocked to work on networks other than the ones they were originally intended for.
You must be certain that the bands are compatible with your carrier (e.g. Viettel Mobile, MobiFone etc etc for Vietnam OR Movistar, TelCel etc etc for Mexico).
The bands for the Droid Razr Maxx HD are:
2G Network - CDMA 800 / 1900
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network - CDMA2000 1xEV-DO
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network - LTE 700 MHz Class 13
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The bands for the Razr HD are:
2G Network - GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network - HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network - LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600
LTE 700 / 800 / 1700 / 1800 / 2600
Call the Carrier you plan to use and ask if the bands are compatible.
unlocking it..
If anyone finds a way to unlock this phone, please post it here.
Closed at OP request.
Hello,
I want to purchase Motorola RAZR HD locked to Verizon.
I live in Israel and I don't know if I will can to unlock it to use it in Israel.
I read the threads in the forum but I didn't found answers.
Please help me so I know whether to buy, I do not want to buy and get stuck with a device that will don't work for me in Israel.
Israel frequencies are:
GSM: 900MHz, 1800MHz
UMTS, HSDPA, WCDMA: 850, 900, 2100
If it's help to know.
I use SIM card.
Thank you very much and hope I'll can!
Roei.
Why not select this one - "DROID RAZR HD BY MOTOROLA w/o plan "?
roimos said:
Hello,
I want to purchase Motorola RAZR HD locked to Verizon.
I live in Israel and I don't know if I will can to unlock it to use it in Israel.
I read the threads in the forum but I didn't found answers.
Please help me so I know whether to buy, I do not want to buy and get stuck with a device that will don't work for me in Israel.
Israel frequencies are:
GSM: 900MHz, 1800MHz
UMTS, HSDPA, WCDMA: 850, 900, 2100
If it's help to know.
I use SIM card.
Thank you very much and hope I'll can!
Roei.
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Because I don't want to buy a new one, it is expensive to me....
I want to purchase a used one (new condition) from eBay.
There are countless threads on this. The phone is unlocked, but you probably wont be able to pick up LTE because it doesn't have many LTE signal bands -- the ones that it has are pretty specific to VZW.
Cpudan80 said:
There are countless threads on this. The phone is unlocked, but you probably wont be able to pick up LTE because it doesn't have many LTE signal bands -- the ones that it has are pretty specific to VZW.
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But Israel is not at all supported by LTE, it does not exist here (3.5G max here).
Then I can use it in Israel?
I need a definitive answer.
Thank you!
roimos said:
But Israel is not at all supported by LTE, it does not exist here (3.5G max here).
Then I can use it in Israel?
I need a definitive answer.
Thank you!
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Shalom!
You should try to get the Rogers or Fido versions of the XT925 (a lot are listed on eBay). You might also be able to find the European versions. These are all gsm. If I remember correctly, most Israeli cell companies are no longer offering CDMA.
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The Verizon version works on both CDMA and GSM and will work globally. The XT925 is the same as the 926 excluding the LTE signal bands which are different.
danifunker said:
Shalom!
You should try to get the Rogers or Fido versions of the XT925 (a lot are listed on eBay). You might also be able to find the European versions. These are all gsm. If I remember correctly, most Israeli cell companies are no longer offering CDMA.
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I found: Unlocked Motorola RAZR HD XT925 16GB Black LTE Brand new - Fido GSM - BNIB
This is good for me?
roimos said:
I found: Unlocked Motorola RAZR HD XT925 16GB Black LTE Brand new - Fido GSM - BNIB
This is good for me?
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That should be great!
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