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[Q] Smartbench gpu scores higher on stock than cm7?

Am i the only one that has noticed my score is about 500 points lower for gaming when i'm on CM RC1 compared to Stock 2.3.2?
RC1 gives me a score of about 2600 while stock gives 3k+ while using Smartbench.
I wonder if this is due to the video drivers not being fully up to date or optimized on the CM builds?
I have also noticed that quadrant scores do not seam to be affected whether on CM or Stock. My experience with the N1 was CM helped with performance a lot.
What do you guys think about this? Have you experienced the same?

TheRiceKing said:
Am i the only one that has noticed my score is about 500 points lower for gaming when i'm on CM RC1 compared to Stock 2.3.2?
RC1 gives me a score of about 2600 while stock gives 3k+ while using Smartbench.
I wonder if this is due to the video drivers not being fully up to date or optimized on the CM builds?
I have also noticed that quadrant scores do not seam to be affected whether on CM or Stock. My experience with the N1 was CM helped with performance a lot.
What do you guys think about this? Have you experienced the same?
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I normally run at 1.4GHz and get about 3.3-3.4k on the games index. (Just got 3232). I don't really ever run on stock so its hard to say but I can say that I've hit 1800/3700 at 1.6GHz before.

Highest Quadrant Score on MT4G?

i know there is a thread for people to post their benchmarks but it seems to be measuring scores between stock and rooted. I was wondering what the highest quadrant, smartbench, linpack scores are for this phone. How do those high scores compare to other phones? I haven't seem any scores higher than this one that i got yesterday, but i'm sure there are higher scores out there. This is running CM7 on Nightly #7 with faux123 Kernel OC'd at 1804 performace. I also have the honeybread theme applied.

Holy balls! That's the best quadrant I've seen! You just made me want to try Faux's kernel!
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ROM: CyanogenMod 7 Nightly Build #2-8 (2011-02-27)
Kernel: Faux's CM7v1.3LV (Performance M/N:1804MHz)
EDIT: Hmmm anyone else having problem with Quadrant with Faux's CM7v1.3 on CM7NB#8? I remember it use to hit 3.1-3.2k without any problem scaling at 1843mhz with CM7v1.0-1.1 kernel. As I see he updated his kernel and balanced it between power consumption and performance but it seems to not play nice with Quadrant as it goes blank(black screen) or FC.

Dude..... How the french is your quad that high? I have that kernel installed and only get around 2300. FML.
¿Eye kan haz moar Jinjerbred? Kthxbai

To be fair, cheating at Quadrant is ridiculously easy. The CM team got it over 9000 before. Also, they still haven't updated it for Gingerbread.
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http://db.tt/HoBuZgB here's mine, faux,cm7 38 (I think) mixer theme, oc 1843 ondemand
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HD2 TMOUSA-HTC Glacier
rom : TyphoonCyanogenMod 7
radio: 2.15.50.14
LINTEAM LEADER(gpu dev)

why is your 2D that high?

electronicrice said:
why is your 2D that high?
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I don't think thats even MT4G could be on Leo. You get higher score on Android RAM build than you would on normal NAND build which use to happened before with Android running from SDCard via dual boot with WM.

Oh okay yeah I see that his ROM info shows HD2 running the Glacier ROM. So that doesn't count. Cool.

electronicrice said:
Oh okay yeah I see that his ROM info shows HD2 running the Glacier ROM. So that doesn't count. Cool.
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I just didn't want to bash him you know let him have his 15min of fame. But I sure miss my HD2... some prick stole it as it was heavily modded.
HTC HD2: TMoUS Leo1024 Unlocked
Rom: 121310 NRG-SE29005
Radio: Leo 2.15.50.14
Battery: Mugen Power 1300 mAh
MicroSDHC: Kingston 32GB Class 4
Shell: HD2 Clear Body Glove
Protector: Vikuiti DQC-160
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No.. its HD2Tmousa and Glacier implementation for adreno 200 and 205.. now i am developing it to increase performance and improve texture on driver 205 and 200 ..me and my team has to work on 2D first and 3D next..since developing progress om 60% from 18 nov 2010.. i had finish yet... due i havent enough time coz of final test on apr... hope we succesfuly build new driver for 200 and 205 graphical manufactured by adreno
.. thx
BlackSHELF said:
I don't think thats even MT4G could be on Leo. You get higher score on Android RAM build than you would on normal NAND build which use to happened before with Android running from SDCard via dual boot with WM.
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HD2 TMOUSA
rom : TyphoonCyanogenMod 7
radio: 2.15.50.14
LINTEAM LEADER(gpu dev)

bududroid said:
No.. its HD2Tmousa and Glacier implementation for adreno 200 and 205.. now i am developing it to increase performance and improve texture on driver 205 and 200 ..me and my team has to work on 2D first and 3D next..since developing progress om 60% from 18 nov 2010.. i had finish yet... due i havent enough time coz of final test on apr... hope we succesfuly build new driver for 200 and 205 graphical manufactured by adreno
.. thx
HD2 TMOUSA
rom : TyphoonCyanogenMod 7
radio: 2.15.50.14
LINTEAM LEADER(gpu dev)
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Cool, long as you stick and update our MT4G driver for AMD Z460 we will all be thankful for you and your team's hard work if CMTeam can incorporate it to AOSO2.3.2 for Glacier.

impressive scores

Wow thats super high man!
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ROM: CyanogenMod 7 Nightly Build #2-11 (2011-03-02)
Kernel: dumfuq SmartCM7 (Performance M/N:1804MHz)

very fast...impressive

I have no screenshot but mine did about 2800...running it on same rom as my g2 (see sig) and at 1:5ghz. All stock cm7 nightly rom.
From my permarooted 1209mhz G2 with CM7 nightly 6

26xx at 1.5ghz running stock cm7 nightlies #11.
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ROM: CyanogenMod 7 Nightly Build #2-12 (2011-03-03)
Kernel: dumfuq SmartCM7 (Performance M/N:1804MHz)
Here is another SS taken after NB12 was rolled out on my MT4G

Quadrant scores?

I know that quandrant is not a good benchmark because the results depends on the hardware installed (CPU qualcomm or samsung or TI OMAP), but my question is:
Desire S in quadrant advanced reach a score of 3000 in the CPU section; the xperia arc, with the same CPU reach a score of 5500 in the cpu section. They are both on gingerbread....so why this difference?
Also the desire HD with froyo and the same Qualcomm CPU reach a 5500 score...
I can't uderstaind!
sorry 4 my english

My wife just got her Des S, and Mega jump is lagging
Quadrant score is 1000-1200
how can it happen with an Adreno 205 inside?
it has 1.28.401.1 ROM on it. do you experience it with other ROMs too?

liljom said:
My wife just got her Des S, and Mega jump is lagging
Quadrant score is 1000-1200
how can it happen with an Adreno 205 inside?
it has 1.28.401.1 ROM on it. do you experience it with other ROMs too?
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i've got no lag at all....

ilbulgaro89 said:
i've got no lag at all....
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no lag on Mega jump? not even when you pick up a rocket?

liljom said:
no lag on Mega jump? not even when you pick up a rocket?
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no lag at all in this game

ilbulgaro89 said:
no lag at all in this game
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and what is your Quadrant score?

liljom said:
and what is your Quadrant score?
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around 1240

ilbulgaro89 said:
around 1240
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yeah, that is the max I can get too
the funny thing is, that my Desire HD with a Desire S port performs better; same CPU, GPU and screen resolution; and no lag in megajump :/

liljom said:
yeah, that is the max I can get too
the funny thing is, that my Desire HD with a Desire S port performs better; same CPU, GPU and screen resolution; and no lag in megajump :/
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yeah, I also do not explain the differences in benchmark scores with this 2 devices

i gave my opinion of why the lower scores in this thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036668
basically there has been a general trend on most phones that gingerbread performs lower than froyo on benchmark tests and performance. this is certainly been my experience. and since the desire s is running gingerbread, while the desire HD is running froyo (i think, right?), that is your answer right there...

Since the Desire S is the "first" device from HTC dressed in Gingerbread...can we safely say that it wasn't an optimized Gingy version that HTC brought up?
If all the Desire family get their Gingerbread update (Classic, HD, Z) and did perform well in benchmarking, that would leave Desire S...????

RogerPodacter said:
i gave my opinion of why the lower scores in this thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036668
basically there has been a general trend on most phones that gingerbread performs lower than froyo on benchmark tests and performance. this is certainly been my experience. and since the desire s is running gingerbread, while the desire HD is running froyo (i think, right?), that is your answer right there...
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you are right
I run Gingerbread on my DHD, and the Quadrant is lower
I thought it's because we don't have the gingerbread sources for DHD, and we don't have the right drivers
but still, DHD has 1500-1600 in Quadrant (compare to 1200) with DS 1.28 port :/ and that's a big difference with the same CPU, GPU

liljom said:
you are right
I run Gingerbread on my DHD, and the Quadrant is lower
I thought it's because we don't have the gingerbread sources for DHD, and we don't have the right drivers
but still, DHD has 1500-1600 in Quadrant (compare to 1200) with DS 1.28 port :/ and that's a big difference with the same CPU, GPU
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i ask it in this thread for this reason: dhd has an higher results with desire s gingebread porting......a my friend has in test a developer version of incredible s with gingerbread 2.3.3 and his quadrant score is 1450 (higher than desire s...but with same hardware)

ilbulgaro89 said:
i ask it in this thread for this reason: dhd has an higher results with desire s gingebread porting......a my friend has in test a developer version of incredible s with gingerbread 2.3.3 and his quadrant score is 1450 (higher than desire s...but with same hardware)
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2 things can save us:
-we find the way to root DS
-we get a good update from HTC

DS is relatively still a "baby"
we'll get there eventually

ilbulgaro89 said:
i ask it in this thread for this reason: dhd has an higher results with desire s gingebread porting......a my friend has in test a developer version of incredible s with gingerbread 2.3.3 and his quadrant score is 1450 (higher than desire s...but with same hardware)
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well maybe your friend's incredible s is overclocked, or he has some other type of customization that you are not aware of. because what i am trying to say is that, stock 2.2 vs stock 2.3, there is a performance and quadrant drop, significantly. stock 2.3 may get around 1250 quadrant, and stock froyo may get around 1650 quadrant. i get 1200 on 2.3, but i can over clock to maximum and get 1400. but somethign still isnt right, because i could over clock on 2.2 and get 1700.
also, people say quadrant scores are meaningless. but this has gotten mis interpreted on the web. quadrant scores are meaningless BETWEEN DIFFERENT PHONE MODELS. but quadrant definitely has meanign within the same device. so if your device runs 1600 on 2.2, then 1200 on 2.3, that is a meaningful piece of data. benchmark shows the ability of your phone to do various tasks like scroll a list, load some html or javascript, or parse a bunch of data. so it annoys me when others (not in this thread) say quadrant is meaningless. what the original statement meant was that lower device A could be optimized very well to be smooth, while higher device B could be better hardware, but optimized poorly to not be smooth, and a benchmark would not tell this story. i agree wtih that. but not within the same device i dont
i also see slower choppy scrolling in 2.3, for example tapatalk threads and lists were smooth in 2.2, but choppy and chunky in 2.3, etc. and the benchmark seems to agree with that.

RogerPodacter said:
well maybe your friend's incredible s is overclocked, or he has some other type of customization that you are not aware of. because what i am trying to say is that, stock 2.2 vs stock 2.3, there is a performance and quadrant drop, significantly. stock 2.3 may get around 1250 quadrant, and stock froyo may get around 1650 quadrant. i get 1200 on 2.3, but i can over clock to maximum and get 1400. but somethign still isnt right, because i could over clock on 2.2 and get 1700.
also, people say quadrant scores are meaningless. but this has gotten mis interpreted on the web. quadrant scores are meaningless BETWEEN DIFFERENT PHONE MODELS. but quadrant definitely has meanign within the same device. so if your device runs 1600 on 2.2, then 1200 on 2.3, that is a meaningful piece of data. benchmark shows the ability of your phone to do various tasks like scroll a list, load some html or javascript, or parse a bunch of data. so it annoys me when others (not in this thread) say quadrant is meaningless. what the original statement meant was that lower device A could be optimized very well to be smooth, while higher device B could be better hardware, but optimized poorly to not be smooth, and a benchmark would not tell this story. i agree wtih that. but not within the same device i dont
i also see slower choppy scrolling in 2.3, for example tapatalk threads and lists were smooth in 2.2, but choppy and chunky in 2.3, etc. and the benchmark seems to agree with that.
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my friend's incredible s is a stock phone updated to Gingerbread via OTA today...without any type of hack...incredible s is not rooted!

My understanding was that Gingerbread is quite a bit slower than Froyo in Quadrant tests.
In real use though, it seems fine.
I suppose we'll have more idea when 2.3.3 upgrades become available for devices currently running 2.2.x.

njd said:
My understanding was that Gingerbread is quite a bit slower than Froyo in Quadrant tests.
In real use though, it seems fine.
I suppose we'll have more idea when 2.3.3 upgrades become available for devices currently running 2.2.x.
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Desire HD came out with 2.2, and now it runs 2.3, and yes, the Quadrant went down

njd said:
I suppose we'll have more idea when 2.3.3 upgrades become available for devices currently running 2.2.x.
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On htc-hero score was equal on 2.2 and 2.3 (both overclocked CM-ROMs)
On my NexuS with 2.3 I have scores about 2500 @ 1GHz (and crazy >3000 @ 1,4GHz)
On the DesireS I only get 1200 @ 1Ghz (equal performance gov or ondemand)
Wired is the totaly different fps: desireS has 50fps at the "planet3D" where Nexus has only 20fps; in the "doom3D" it is vice versa
But in everyday use there is no big difference - I tend to sell the NexuS, but really not sure wich phone I should keep..

Jelly Bean vs. Gingerbread

I just wan´t to collect some Opinions which one you like more.
sorry for my bad english

Is this serious surly JB is more and more better then GB.

GB is more stable than JB. If you are a gamer, i advice you to stay on GB
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For now, GB is noticeably faster than JB when it comes to games/navigating around menus.
On JB navigating through the system settings is pretty horrible, takes 1-1,5 seconds to get from one tab to another.
JB is more modern though, looks nicer, has a better notification bar, supports more apps.
I'd wait for an official, unbranded JB release before switching over.

No! GB is not beter than JB. When you have right settings on it , it runs few times better than GB. Definitely recommend to flash on JB
Ps. Best for now - MC8 + Italian Job + Supercharger V6 + removed bloatwares + DISABLE AUTO ADJUST SCREEN TONE ( in settings - display, this fix is for lag in games used on leaked versions and some new users don't know about it)

for me
gingerbread is alot better for gaming
but tooo ugly
the jellybean is opposite
weak in gaming and very nice

buhaha GB better in gaming...yeah go for it! Instal GB and come play with me in Shadowgun Deadzone or run Vice Ciy on full...GB have better ram management (now...) but gpu and cpu on GB is 50% slower.
No? Instal RD 3D benchmark. On GB ALLWAYS ON ALL ROMS you get 30fps overal score.
On JB you get 42-45 fps overal score and lern use fps.meter.
I have check some games in that same place/situation and ALLWAYS on JB is more fps. You can feel only droops because ram is not good now on JB but properly settings solved that problems for me.

michal89chz said:
buhaha GB better in gaming...yeah go for it! Instal GB and come play with me in Shadowgun Deadzone or run Vice Ciy on full...GB have better ram management (now...) but gpu and cpu on GB is 50% slower.
No? Instal RD 3D benchmark. On GB ALLWAYS ON ALL ROMS you get 30fps overal score.
On JB you get 42-45 fps overal score and lern use fps.meter.
I have check some games in that same place/situation and ALLWAYS on JB is more fps. You can feel only droops because ram is not good now on JB but properly settings solved that problems for me.
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Are we have different devices? I am always getting lags on ui also ram hunger games.
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Ram in games...sometimes are problems if you have less free ram but fps/s is a LOT better on JB
Try on GB with fps meter: Dead Triger on max, Vice city on max and Most Wanted and than on Italian Job 1.0.0 (with fps meter) You will see big deferences on JB+)

Praying for better fitted JB. ZTE blade gets 7k on antutu benchmark but we can't. ZTE is 600 mhz single core. Ace 2 800 mhz dual core. It makes me insane !!
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michal89chz said:
buhaha GB better in gaming...yeah go for it! Instal GB and come play with me in Shadowgun Deadzone or run Vice Ciy on full...GB have better ram management (now...) but gpu and cpu on GB is 50% slower.
No? Instal RD 3D benchmark. On GB ALLWAYS ON ALL ROMS you get 30fps overal score.
On JB you get 42-45 fps overal score and lern use fps.meter.
I have check some games in that same place/situation and ALLWAYS on JB is more fps. You can feel only droops because ram is not good now on JB but properly settings solved that problems for me.
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what are the properly settings that can solve ram problems?
please tell us

...because zte blade run another one test hehehehe armv6 have not that sam test like armv7(b) Our device can get 20k on that test...why you compare so slow phone to ours in so bad benchmarks like quadrant/antutu. We have only one good benchmark (Rd3d) because that benchmark allways show that same framerate! Our one core is ~2 times faster than Zte blade. I had that phone before and I know what he can do after OC to 720/760 and CM7 and ...that phone have only good TFT(800/480) If you want you can get on zte blade 5k in quadrant after JIT becaus then quadrant generate bugs in graphics (all is white) DONT USE THAT BENCHMARKS to compare devices. Simply- stock S2 have in Quadrant 3k. Our phone have now on JB 2900+ so my device is fast like S2? NO.

Oh i dont know that point.
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S2 have similar score without OC .And what? My Ace 2 Is fast like S2? (...) No! Is ~2 times slower on GPU and ~1-1,5 times slower on CPU…

And we have better score than nexus
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If you have lags on JB in games try this:
1. Instal Kyrillosv7b (for MB4) or Italian Job v1 (for MC8)
2. Disable Auto adjust screen tone (Settings-screen)
3. Instal Supercharger for better ram management
4. Delete all bloadware apps (there is list somewhere)

michal89chz said:
S2 have similar score without OC .And what? My Ace 2 Is fast like S2? (...) No! Is ~2 times slower on GPU and ~1-1,5 times slower on CPU…
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i try quadrant i get 2433
its very different from yours
im running jb ij 1.0.0
any solution?

samer menla said:
i try quadrant i get 2433
its very different from yours
im running jb ij 1.0.0
any solution?
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Stock firmware?
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abdulkadiro said:
Stock firmware?
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mc8 with italian job running nexus theme
thats all
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This is ok. That old Nexus is litle bit slower than Ace 2 on GPU because have higher res. and older ,slower one I/O
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samer menla said:
i try quadrant i get 2433
its very different from yours
im running jb ij 1.0.0
any solution?
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TMN sh.ts OUT, GPU 2d rendering ON, good launcher, auto brightnes adjust off, sounds off , no wigets, no animated wallpaper,, and 100x more solution. I dont have time for this...ask someone other or do a thread wheare people can write settings and chose one from them.
Edit: I am on IJ 1.0.0 also so you see right now differences. Settings vs settings.

Nexus 5 - how to take the best performance?!

Hello everyone.
I hope there aren't a similar post here.
I wood like to make a "monster" Nexus 5, concerning performance.
So, can somebody tell me about the fastest ROM, the best version of the rom, the best compatible kernel, etc.
I want to see the highest benchmark, and of course the best performance.
I don't care about the version of the ROM (KitKat, Lollipop, etc)
I'm waiting for responses.
Thank you!

Get Marshmallow (Stock or the Xtreme ROM)
Get Elemental X kernel
Switch to F2FS filesystem in recovery (make backups as this wipes)
Overclock
Profit.
For reference:
3D Mark IS Unlimited score: 18672 (stock was in the 15k)
Geekbench (single core): 1040 (stock 800s)
Geekbench (multicore): 2987
AnTuTu: 42k
This is running at 2.8Ghz.
EDIT: I can benchmark all the way up to 2.9Ghz but it becomes unstable in day-to-day use at that point. So keeping it at 2.7 - 2.8Ghz for stability.

vkarof said:
Hello everyone.
I hope there aren't a similar post here.
I wood like to make a "monster" Nexus 5, concerning performance.
So, can somebody tell me about the fastest ROM, the best version of the rom, the best compatible kernel, etc.
I want to see the highest benchmark, and of course the best performance.
I don't care about the version of the ROM (KitKat, Lollipop, etc)
I'm waiting for responses.
Thank you!
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Get Racer Kernel
Any Rom will do as long as it is not a DeoDexed Rom
get performance cpu governor, OC to 2.9 GhZ
make I/O scheduler either Sio or Vtripndroid
make read ahead 3072kb
Set cpu governor tunable of up_threshold to 10
Watch your phone have the greatest benchmark scores.. While getting hotter than sexy girls while screen On haha