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Hello,
Im choosing a phone from these 3 phones. I like samsung, but im confused because people still saying that desire is better than samsung. Samsung hardware is better. OS is the same. And samsung is getting 2,2froyo soon. HTC Sense UI is not important for me.
I think galaxy S is better, but i need gps and i heard that samsung galaxy S is bad with GPS. Samsung said that they fix this. Will they really fix? Its not the same when the apple tried to fix bad antenna with new iOS ?
Pleaser help to decide. What about ROMs for Galaxy S. quantity of them is smaller than desire, but maybe in the future they will increase ?
please people help to decide. i dont now much about them.
Please dont be so bad guys. Advice me. What phone to choose
Get the Galaxy S. You wont be sorry.
Galaxy S. Period
How about ROM's for galaxy S ? And i now that there's a OpenDesire for HTC Desire which makes desire super phone. Will be there something for samsung ? At least fixes or smthg?
Please answer me guys, i have a few hours to decide. I dont now much about androids
Galaxy S plus over Desire:
A bit larger Super Amoled screen
Storage
GPU
Cost
S/W Problems are getting fixed with new F/W updates
Battery life
Galaxy S negative points over desire:
Though the S/W problems are getting fixed with new f/w updates, they are being released too often, and often come with more problems.
The CPU "Hummingbird" has been called that it does 1,2x better on the same frequency as snapdragon. This is not truth anymore as latest builds are just as fast, for someone maybe a little more.
Somone said that the CPU might be overclockable to 1,6Ghz... NEVER. Well snapdragon is overclockable a bit higher then 1,4Ghz. But you need to overvolt it, NEVER use performance governor and basically... In short, the snapdragon CPU is H/W limited to a bit more then 1000 BogoMIPS. And it will cause problems. And so the hummingbird is. But because it's so optimized I can hardly think of any possibility why or how could it end-up with 1,6Ghz. It might go 1,4Ghz, but will have maybe even more problems then the snapdragon.
It looks iPhonish
It's support is... well come on it's still Samsung
H/W-wise it may be better, but just so in terms that you wanted a gaming phone, maybe movies phone. Everything else is the same.
It's bigger. Might be too wide for someone
The style isn't the right thing... Actually it's style I almost **** hate. 2cm on top and bottom, please kill me -.-' Though it may look good for someone, Desire looks better in terms of.. how do I call it... object placement?
The construction is good, but not as good as Desire's. (though some models shipped before summer had the the back side jarring/creaking. Unfortunately one of those is mine... but it stopped after I was pushing it/using it or what. Well it's okay now, in short. (Not a minus for desire)
It's pure plastic. Though really good plastic, clap clap for that. But it's plastic, so clap clap in Samsung's face.
Costs a liiitttleee more
Worser Custom roms.
Less accessories
A little worser community.. what am I talking about, it's just a bunch of whiney kids " GALAXY S IS BETTER YOU ***** MOTHERF*". Yeah about like that
And probably 1000 other reasons
Why Desire?
Better community, ROMs, speed, stabiliity, later battery life. Galaxy S maybe looks like less problems, but overall it's still the same thing, just a little bit enhanced. If you think you'll get more satisfaction with it, buy it. But if you don't specifically want a game phone, better get Desire...
Why NOT iPhone 4?
1.) Cost
2.) It's already very outdated
3.) Problems problems and problems
4.) iSheep
5.) The "awesome" Retina display is just the same decades old TFT display, it's so old, that's why they can make it higher DPI. But it's made by LG. In short LG = *************
6.) No changes from 3gs. And by changes I mean innovation. When I've heard about that there's new iPhone coming, I thought that it's gonna come with 2ghz-ish processor, 14mp cam... something for what it would be worth the money. And it's not. It's the same old CPU, just running 400Mhz faster frequency. iPhone 3gs 16MFlops, iPhone 4 19MFlops. (iPad 22-24Mflops)
7.) Loserphone
8.) Did I say loserphone?
9.) If even woman can use iPhone, what's the phone for men? Android TM
WAAAAAAAAAAAAIT A SECOND
What date is it??? OOOH DUDE!!! Get Desire HD or any of the new high-end HTC phone being announced 15th September. If it'll have Adreno 205 it'll be even faster then the galaxy s. Actually 1/3 times faster.
Desire HD with 4.3 . It will be very very big
I had a desire and now I'm using a I9000.
I must say that the Galaxy is lighter and faster. The screen looks amazing and the battery lasts much longer.
you won't regret buying either.
p.s. please stop spamming your thread
no spam no answers
Dany0 said:
Galaxy S plus over Desire:
A bit larger Super Amoled screen
Storage
GPU
Cost
S/W Problems are getting fixed with new F/W updates
Battery life
Galaxy S negative points over desire:
Though the S/W problems are getting fixed with new f/w updates, they are being released too often, and often come with more problems.
The CPU "Hummingbird" has been called that it does 1,2x better on the same frequency as snapdragon. This is not truth anymore as latest builds are just as fast, for someone maybe a little more.
Somone said that the CPU might be overclockable to 1,6Ghz... NEVER. Well snapdragon is overclockable a bit higher then 1,4Ghz. But you need to overvolt it, NEVER use performance governor and basically... In short, the snapdragon CPU is H/W limited to a bit more then 1000 BogoMIPS. And it will cause problems. And so the hummingbird is. But because it's so optimized I can hardly think of any possibility why or how could it end-up with 1,6Ghz. It might go 1,4Ghz, but will have maybe even more problems then the snapdragon.
It looks iPhonish
It's support is... well come on it's still Samsung
H/W-wise it may be better, but just so in terms that you wanted a gaming phone, maybe movies phone. Everything else is the same.
It's bigger. Might be too wide for someone
The style isn't the right thing... Actually it's style I almost **** hate. 2cm on top and bottom, please kill me -.-' Though it may look good for someone, Desire looks better in terms of.. how do I call it... object placement?
The construction is good, but not as good as Desire's. (though some models shipped before summer had the the back side jarring/creaking. Unfortunately one of those is mine... but it stopped after I was pushing it/using it or what. Well it's okay now, in short. (Not a minus for desire)
It's pure plastic. Though really good plastic, clap clap for that. But it's plastic, so clap clap in Samsung's face.
Costs a liiitttleee more
Worser Custom roms.
Less accessories
A little worser community.. what am I talking about, it's just a bunch of whiney kids " GALAXY S IS BETTER YOU ***** MOTHERF*". Yeah about like that
And probably 1000 other reasons
Why Desire?
Better community, ROMs, speed, stabiliity, later battery life. Galaxy S maybe looks like less problems, but overall it's still the same thing, just a little bit enhanced. If you think you'll get more satisfaction with it, buy it. But if you don't specifically want a game phone, better get Desire...
Why NOT iPhone 4?
1.) Cost
2.) It's already very outdated
3.) Problems problems and problems
4.) iSheep
5.) The "awesome" Retina display is just the same decades old TFT display, it's so old, that's why they can make it higher DPI. But it's made by LG. In short LG = *************
6.) No changes from 3gs. And by changes I mean innovation. When I've heard about that there's new iPhone coming, I thought that it's gonna come with 2ghz-ish processor, 14mp cam... something for what it would be worth the money. And it's not. It's the same old CPU, just running 400Mhz faster frequency. iPhone 3gs 16MFlops, iPhone 4 19MFlops. (iPad 22-24Mflops)
7.) Loserphone
8.) Did I say loserphone?
9.) If even woman can use iPhone, what's the phone for men? Android TM
WAAAAAAAAAAAAIT A SECOND
What date is it??? OOOH DUDE!!! Get Desire HD or any of the new high-end HTC phone being announced 15th September. If it'll have Adreno 205 it'll be even faster then the galaxy s. Actually 1/3 times faster.
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thank you very much ! Very helpfull post !
No problem, btw 4,3 is not big, my desire has 3,7' and I find it really small. (really)
And as far what I've seen, it will have really good construction.
Samsung galaxy S is a pretty solid phone it runs great it looks sleek its screen is what is known as gorilla glass which if you look up is pretty impressive kudos to samsung for choosing that as the screen had mine since the second day it was released and it barely has scratches on the screeen 2x kudos and i am very rough with my electronics, great resolution fast processor and highly modded it becomes a straight monster phone who cares if im running stock rom you would never beable to tell after all that i did to my phone the development section is small yes but there is so much you can do with it i cannot wait till more comes out for this phone
phone:samsung galaxy s*vibrant*
De-T-Mobiled, stock rom, launcher pro plus
euro boot screen,shutdown. lagfix *market*
Rock solid phone
cybertang said:
Samsung galaxy S is a pretty solid phone it runs great it looks sleek its screen is what is known as gorilla glass which if you look up is pretty impressive kudos to samsung for choosing that as the screen had mine since the second day it was released and it barely has scratches on the screeen 2x kudos and i am very rough with my electronics, great resolution fast processor and highly modded it becomes a straight monster phone who cares if im running stock rom you would never beable to tell after all that i did to my phone the development section is small yes but there is so much you can do with it i cannot wait till more comes out for this phone
phone:samsung galaxy s*vibrant*
De-T-Mobiled, stock rom, launcher pro plus
euro boot screen,shutdown. lagfix *market*
Rock solid phone
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See? that's exactly the type I was talking about...
MisterMonitor said:
Desire HD with 4.3 . It will be very very big
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Nope, the Desire HD will be about the same size as the Galaxy S. Look at the Evo, it's 2mm larger, 1 mm shorter than the Galaxy S, and 1 mm thicker (which is not really a sizable difference between the 2).
The Desire HD uses the whole space for the screen (where as the Galaxy S has 2 cm plastic at the top and 2 at the bottom).
I wanted to take the Galaxy S, but now I'm definitely waiting for the Desire HD.
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See? that's exactly the type I was talking about...
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But i heard that samsung have a buggy OS. And have no costum ROMs and etc. There's a lot of good roms for Desire, including the OpenDesire which makes your phone super
ravi84m said:
I had a desire and now I'm using a I9000.
I must say that the Galaxy is lighter and faster. The screen looks amazing and the battery lasts much longer.
you won't regret buying either.
p.s. please stop spamming your thread
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the galaxy s isnt faster lol everyone knows about the galaxy's poor memory management, even galaxy owners complain about lag when using messeges or dialer ect, the fact of the matter is, if you have an xbox and dont care about playing games on you phone, get the desire its by far the superior device, if you want it for games get the iphone lol
i were almost buying Galaxy S, but then i heard about super thing called OpenDesire. And heard that samsung OS is buggy, laggy. And no costum ROMs
Hi guys, I will be eligible for an upgrade on September 10th on T-Mobile, and I'm having a hard time trying to decide on which one I want to get.
The main two that I am looking at right now are the HTC Sensation 4G, and the Samsung Galaxy S2 (once it comes out for T-Mobile USA). The Samsung Galaxy S2 seems like the better choice, but I've heard that it won't come out until October 26th. Is this true? If its worth it I could wait that long, but I'd rather not. Also, I've heard that the screen on the T-Mobile version of the Galaxy S2 will be 4.5". That seems a little bit too big for me, since I have a MyTouch 3G right now. Is the size of the phone too big to be comfortable to use and carry around? Its hard to resist though because of the battery life, performance, and the awesome screen..
The HTC Sensation 4G sounds like a good phone too, but I've seen that on Quadrant the HTC Sensation 4G gets around 2000, and the Samsung Galaxy S2 gets around 3000. That's a pretty big difference.
Which phone do you guys think I should go for? Any phone would be better than the one I have right now. I've been waiting for a long time to finally upgrade.
P.S. Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, I didn't really know where to put this.
Qualcomm's S3, or 1st Gen dual core snapdragons are asynchronous, meaning most of the time only 1 core is active, for energy reasons. The phone is still fast, its just that the benchmarks don't push the CPU to activate both cores, making the score lower than normal. The SGSII on the other hand, has both cores on all the time, which is bad for battery, but processes get split b/t the 2 cores, making it really fast all the time too.
"Qualcomm’s implementation of asynchronous processing as key to the dual-core chips leading performance and lower power consumption as both cores do not need to be used for lower-powered tasks."
I know I say this all the time, well recently anyway, but you should get a native ICS device instead, they'll be worth it more. Normally I don't get things with the 1st series of its kind, I would wait till mobile dual cores get better, which they have since 1.5GHz+ duals, are coming later this year, Q4. And you might also want that 720P HD screen, and no buttons, and smaller bezel and all that stuff...
I would wait for the Galaxy S II. Simply because it's awesome.
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Qualcomm's S3, or 1st Gen dual core snapdragons are asynchronous, meaning most of the time only 1 core is active, for energy reasons. The phone is still fast, its just that the benchmarks don't push the CPU to activate both cores, making the score lower than normal. The SGSII on the other hand, has both cores on all the time, which is bad for battery, but processes get split b/t the 2 cores, making it really fast all the time too.
"Qualcomm’s implementation of asynchronous processing as key to the dual-core chips leading performance and lower power consumption as both cores do not need to be used for lower-powered tasks."
I know I say this all the time, well recently anyway, but you should get a native ICS device instead, they'll be worth it more. Normally I don't get things with the 1st series of its kind, I would wait till mobile dual cores get better, which they have since 1.5GHz+ duals, are coming later this year, Q4. And you might also want that 720P HD screen, and no buttons, and smaller bezel and all that stuff...
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That doesn't make much sense to me. I've seen from a couple people that the battery life on the HTC Sensation 4G isn't very good, but the battery life on the Samsung Galaxy S2 is pretty good.
And also, I haven't really kept up-to-date with all the new phones, and I have no idea when a phone with ICS will be out. I'd like to get a new phone as soon as possible, as I'm getting kind of tired of my MyTouch 3G. Its been a good phone, but it is just too outdated and slow now.
MattDrumz said:
That doesn't make much sense to me. I've seen from a couple people that the battery life on the HTC Sensation 4G isn't very good, but the battery life on the Samsung Galaxy S2 is pretty good.
And also, I haven't really kept up-to-date with all the new phones, and I have no idea when a phone with ICS will be out. I'd like to get a new phone as soon as possible, as I'm getting kind of tired of my MyTouch 3G. Its been a good phone, but it is just too outdated and slow now.
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The battery life is supposed to be better since it's asynchronous now, meaning both cores aren't used unless needed for the process or app. My point before was that the benchmark isn't making both cores activate, leading to only 1 being on-so the overall score would be lower than the Exynos in the SGSII.
Ace42 said:
The battery life is supposed to be better since it's asynchronous now, meaning both cores aren't used unless needed for the process or app. My point before was that the benchmark isn't making both cores activate, leading to only 1 being on-so the overall score would be lower than the Exynos in the SGSII.
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Oh, I get what you're saying now. I'm still leaning towards waiting for the SGSII.
MattDrumz said:
Oh, I get what you're saying now. I'm still leaning towards waiting for the SGSII.
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Both phones are great, but the Hercules, which if turns out to be the SGSII will be worth the wait...But if the N Prime comes out around the SGSII release, get that instead.
I'd go for the dell venue pro personally
With Tmobie, the Galaxy SII will be like.. 4.5" screen ... That's big .. Too big for a cell phone...
I'm on the same case and I'll be buying an Htc Sensation tomorrow, since I can't wait
I'm on TMobile.
Thanks
I would suggest you wait for SGSII. It will be worth it.
Also, keep an eye on the release dates of Prime. If both of their release dates coincides by a fair margin (I doubt this), then go with the latter phone.
Get the g2x
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From what people are saying, I think I will go with the SGSII, unless the Nexus Prime comes out at the same time.
Does anybody know if the release date for the SGSII is still supposed to be October 26th? I was hoping it would be released in September like it was rumored it would. Also, do you think it will be about $200 with an upgrade when it comes out?
Sorry for all the questions, I just want to make the right decision.
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I very much enjoy the versatility of the htc sensation 4g with the Android Revolution HD 3.6.11 rom.
I believe that we have a truly amazing device in our hands. If you love your oneS then the least you could do is to write a good review about somewhere like on amazon or something especially since now we have some saboteurs trying to ruin our devices name and drop its rating to zero. But in actuality if our device gets horrible reviews no new developers will come here to work with our phones. I don't believe that is fair and so I am starting my own campaign called goodreview-Aday where I will give positive feedback on our device and rate it high on several major websites that sell our phone such as amazon eBay etc. Everybody can join me to keep development alive for our phone! If everybody not experiencing the alleged issue wrote one good review on one site their evil little "campaign" will have no chance!
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Roundtableprez said:
I believe that we have a truly amazing device in our hands. If you love your oneS then the least you could do is to write a good review about somewhere like on amazon or something especially since now we have some saboteurs trying to ruin our devices name and drop its rating to zero. But in actuality if our device gets horrible reviews no new developers will come here to work with our phones. I don't believe that is fair and so I am starting my own campaign called goodreview-Aday where I will give positive feedback on our device and rate it high on several major websites that sell our phone such as amazon eBay etc. Everybody can join me to keep development alive for our phone! If everybody not experiencing the alleged issue wrote one good review on one site their evil little "campaign" will have no chance!
Sent from my HTC One S using xda app-developers app
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What's so amazing about this phone?
louis.b said:
What's so amazing about this phone?
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Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
Amazing build/perceived quality compared to any other android mobile
Great design/looks
Amazing audio, which is only matched by the GS 3 and perhaps the iphone 5
One of the best cameras
Great battery life out of the box, again best there is for android phones
Fastest android mobile currently
IMO sense V4
Regarding the first post, developers won't go by "user reviews" on shop sites, they will look into all the hardware detail and kernel source/drivers/software stuff etc. and if they like what they see then they will buy it.
Terminator19 said:
Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
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Not any more, HTC have reworked the One S to use the Snapdragon S3, and for most regions outside the US at least all newly manufactured units will be the revised spec.
Terminator19 said:
Amazing build/perceived quality compared to any other android mobile
Great design/looks
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Agreed, and now that they seem to have done something about the metal arc oxidation issues its build quality is great.
Terminator19 said:
Amazing audio, which is only matched by the GS 3 and perhaps the iphone 5
One of the best cameras
Great battery life out of the box, again best there is for android phones
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Yes, yes and yes, the Beats gimmick aside the regular audio output is of very good quality as GSMArena's measurements show. Camera is a delight to use, although the S3 version has a small buffer lag between shots. Battery life, surprisingly, seems to be very similar between the S3 and S4 models.
Terminator19 said:
Fastest android mobile currently
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The S4 version yes, the S3 version no.
IMO sense V4
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Yes, Sense 4 is really good, better than TouchWiz although I suspect most people on XDA prefer stock Android if it means faster updates
Personally, I think the One S was a really good phone when it launched, but the change to the S3 processor has changed my view of the model significantly; it is still a good phone for what it is but the price is too high for a phone using a 2010 chip.
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What's so amazing about this phone?
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Please don't be a ****. From your signature it looks like you don't even have this device. You are probably one of the trolls who wrote bad reviews.
I agree this device is amazing-but Htc needs to step up their game and provide S-Off and in general be more developer friendly -Htc Dev has done more harm then good it seems to me and recovery is a mess some use twrp others prefer cmw - If Htc would show better support It would be one the best phones to date Just my 2c
kenyw said:
Not any more, HTC have reworked the One S to use the Snapdragon S3, and for most regions outside the US at least all newly manufactured units will be the revised spec.
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And the UK still has quite a lot of S4's. Although S3's are being sold here as well, but not sure which places are selling only those versions. I think amazon are only supplying the S3 versions now. AFAIK the network shops still have supplies of the S4 version.
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but the price is too high for a phone using a 2010 chip.
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Completely agree about that with regards to the S3 version.
Regarding the battery and speed, I thought it was the other way round (in real world usage), battery much worse and performance isn't as good but for standard usage like games etc. there isn't a huge difference.
Doesn't help when no one has posted any info. on the battery of the S3 though i.e. screen shots and detailed info..........
jmcdonald58 said:
I agree this device is amazing-but Htc needs to step up their game and provide S-Off and in general be more developer friendly -Htc Dev has done more harm then good it seems to me and recovery is a mess some use twrp others prefer cmw - If Htc would show better support It would be one the best phones to date Just my 2c
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^Absolutely agree with this. Recovery really is a mess.
The rest of the device is overall good, but there are some cons to go with the pros.
+ Nice display, accurate colors. PenTile didn't bother me a bit. Great viewing angles and black is truly black, unlike on the Samsung devices where black appears blotchy. 4.3 for me seems the sweet spot for screen size and overall phone size.
+ Slimness of device is nearly unparalleled.
+ Speed (based on S4) is best-in-class
+ Battery life (on Sense ROMs) is excellent
+ Camera and Video capabilities are excellent
- Overall call quality on the latest two radios is awful. Crackling and full of static. This is subjective, and I'm in Los Angeles, which isn't known for amazing AT&T voice quality. This leads me to
- Inconsistent data speeds. Again subjective, but my Lumia 800 seems to pull down faster and more consistent speeds on the ATT HSPA network.
- SIM Cover starts to creak if you remove it more than the first time you install your SIM.
- Placement of the power button at top right for this tall a device is not ergonomic. AOSP/CM10-based ROMs enable wake via volume rocker, which is useful, but inconsistent.
- Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.
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^Absolutely agree with this. Recovery really is a mess.
The rest of the device is overall good, but there are some cons to go with the pros.
+ Nice display, accurate colors. PenTile didn't bother me a bit. Great viewing angles and black is truly black, unlike on the Samsung devices where black appears blotchy. 4.3 for me seems the sweet spot for screen size and overall phone size.
+ Slimness of device is nearly unparalleled.
+ Speed (based on S4) is best-in-class
+ Battery life (on Sense ROMs) is excellent
+ Camera and Video capabilities are excellent
- Overall call quality on the latest two radios is awful. Crackling and full of static. This is subjective, and I'm in Los Angeles, which isn't known for amazing AT&T voice quality. This leads me to
- Inconsistent data speeds. Again subjective, but my Lumia 800 seems to pull down faster and more consistent speeds on the ATT HSPA network.
- SIM Cover starts to creak if you remove it more than the first time you install your SIM.
- Placement of the power button at top right for this tall a device is not ergonomic. AOSP/CM10-based ROMs enable wake via volume rocker, which is useful, but inconsistent.
- Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.
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Recoveries come from our local friendly developers if your recovery is a mess contact them it is no way htcs fault. I love this phone despite no s-off. And that's okay for me lol we will steal it from the Onex one day lol.
For the new radios and your crackling problem, most unlocked android devices have this issue when you unlock them I have a sidekick 4g on att right now and this on tmob and there is a compareable difference
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I absolutely love this device. I had the choice between the one s and the s3 and chose this one and am really pleased. It fits my hands perfectly and outperforms most devices. The battery life is unparalleled. I average 4 to 6 hours on screen time while some friends with s3's only get 2 hours with power saving on. The lack of s off is little annoying but not that big of a deal for me since my hboot is so low. As for the people spreading negative reviews in hopes to "teach HTC a lessons" this is a horrible approach. Operation rolling thunder should be stopped!!
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And the UK still has quite a lot of S4's. Although S3's are being sold here as well, but not sure which places are selling only those versions. I think amazon are only supplying the S3 versions now. AFAIK the network shops still have supplies of the S4 version.
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Just wanted to mention that on Tuesday 11/09/2012 i received my nice new htc one s from talktalk.co.uk ( run on vodafone network) and it is a Z560e model (Ville C aka S3) version, personally i am not to bothered but figured worth mention for anyone who maybe intrested in UK
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Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
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? better ? u idiot.
Just because it's A15Krait u got 2 cores....that GUN Exynos 4412 have it A9 but 4 cores son.
Which is rapes your HTC one S.. I didn't talk about ****ty Adrenno 225....which is garbage.
So don't talk about better or not.
My One S
My S one is about 5 months old. After years as a Nokia fan-boy I finally gave in and reluctantly jumped ship. So I was presented with a problem: Which phone do I get. I won't be taking up a place in a queue for the new iPhone 5 with the iSheep - as a Ubuntu user getting an android was a no-brainer. I chose the One S because 1/ it wasn't Samsung (my personal prejudice) 2/ the One X was slightly too big for my taste.
I know Nokia missed a very big boat by sticking with Symbian for so long, but on a personal level I was happy because I know them inside out I can mod them easily and enjoyed playing about with them despite the limitations. In fact the limitations made it more of a challenge and more interesting.Eventually the lack of progress Symbian was making, combined with the fact that Nokia jumped in to bed with Micros*#t forced my hand. So to be honest, I waited for T-Mobile to deliver my One S with very little enthusiasm. That's changed. I love my One S.
So as it's my first Android I can't say its any better or worse than a Galaxy III, a WildFire or a Nexus. I do know that I am very happy with it. On the hardware side I am happy about the lovely big screen, the slim casing and the nice finish. I am very happy with the processor speed and flawless screen refresh. Battery life could be better, but I will never be happy with battery life. Software wise, I am happy that there are people out there making ROMs which while flawed are keeping me very busy and making me feel like I have a new phone every week or so. I am happy that I have a JB based ROM while HTC has yet to release the "official" JB for the One S.
Which is all a long winded way of saying I love it.
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? better ? u idiot.
Just because it's A15Krait u got 2 cores....that GUN Exynos 4412 have it A9 but 4 cores son.
Which is rapes your HTC one S.. I didn't talk about ****ty Adrenno 225....which is garbage.
So don't talk about better or not.
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Nice grammar, who is the idiot?
Obviously, you have no clue, "OMG has quad, must be better!"
Firstly lets have a look at performance, shall we?
Have a look at these benchmarks of the X (s4 version) compared to the GS 3:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p5.php
Notice how any test, which relies solely on the CPU is better on the S/X (S4)? Take it that isn't enough? Here have another benchmark comparison by another expert site:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/3
Once again, notice the CPU dependant tests?
Heck even the one S and XL holds it own very well in the other tests that are reliant on the GPU etc.
So much better performance per core (which is much better rather than having an extra 2 cores considering nearly every android app still doesn't fully utilise dual core let alone quad, therefore the much better performance for one core is better!).
However, that is just benchmarks, which only shows the potential power and doesn't really relate to real world usage. Have you actually used the mobiles yourself and compared tasks to see which is quicker?
I have (along with many others phones) and the S is the quickest/snappiest android device there is, quicker than the GS 3 especially in launching/loading apps, game levels, installing apps/games, loading thumbnails in the gallery etc.
Now onto battery life/power efficiency:
Lets take the XL for this test as it is more fair since it has the 720P res. and bigger screen, although it does have a much smaller battery compared to the GS 3, but have a look here anyway:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/2
Although I always take benchmarks for battery life with a pinch of salt as they aren't exactly a great representative when it comes to real world usage.
But reading through many posts, XL users are able to get up 6 hours on screen time (auto brightness) spread across 1-2 days, where as the best that GS 3 users seem to get is around 5 hours spread across 1-2 days, on average the XL users are getting 4-5 hours on screen time with 1-3 days usage and on average the GS 3 users are getting 3-4 hours on screen time spread across 1-2 days.
Can you read the graphs ok?
Also nothing wrong with the battery life on my stock S and same goes for many other people. Like to see GS 3 users get the same as me with my usage......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27665378#post27665378
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27010378#post27010378
Now onto the heat that the chips generate, well there simply is no contest in this area, here is a video comparing the S4 to the exynos dual core chip used in the GS 2 and some other CPU, which is used in one of Motorola's phones:
And the exynos quad won't run any cooler than the S4.
Oh and yup the adreno 225 combined with the S4 is real xxxxx, oh wait..........
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6121/glbenchmark-25-performance/2
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Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.
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I personally find the typing is very good even with the sense keyboard.
With swiftkey it is even better!
Terminator19 said:
Nice grammar, who is the idiot?
Obviously, you have no clue, "OMG has quad, must be better!"
Firstly lets have a look at performance, shall we?
Have a look at these benchmarks of the X (s4 version) compared to the GS 3:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p5.php
Notice how any test, which relies solely on the CPU is better on the S/X (S4)? Take it that isn't enough? Here have another benchmark comparison by another expert site:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/3
Once again, notice the CPU dependant tests?
Heck even the one S and XL holds it own very well in the other tests that are reliant on the GPU etc.
So much better performance per core (which is much better rather than having an extra 2 cores considering nearly every android app still doesn't fully utilise dual core let alone quad, therefore the much better performance for one core is better!).
However, that is just benchmarks, which only shows the potential power and doesn't really relate to real world usage. Have you actually used the mobiles yourself and compared tasks to see which is quicker?
I have (along with many others phones) and the S is the quickest/snappiest android device there is, quicker than the GS 3 especially in launching/loading apps, game levels, installing apps/games, loading thumbnails in the gallery etc.
Now onto battery life/power efficiency:
Lets take the XL for this test as it is more fair since it has the 720P res. and bigger screen, although it does have a much smaller battery compared to the GS 3, but have a look here anyway:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/2
Although I always take benchmarks for battery life with a pinch of salt as they aren't exactly a great representative when it comes to real world usage.
But reading through many posts, XL users are able to get up 6 hours on screen time (auto brightness) spread across 1-2 days, where as the best that GS 3 users seem to get is around 5 hours spread across 1-2 days, on average the XL users are getting 4-5 hours on screen time with 1-3 days usage and on average the GS 3 users are getting 3-4 hours on screen time spread across 1-2 days.
Can you read the graphs ok?
Also nothing wrong with the battery life on my stock S and same goes for many other people. Like to see GS 3 users get the same as me with my usage......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27665378#post27665378
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27010378#post27010378
Now onto the heat that the chips generate, well there simply is no contest in this area, here is a video comparing the S4 to the exynos dual core chip used in the GS 2 and some other CPU, which is used in one of Motorola's phones:
And the exynos quad won't run any cooler than the S4.
Oh and yup the adreno 225 combined with the S4 is real xxxxx, oh wait..........
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6121/glbenchmark-25-performance/2
I personally find the typing is very good even with the sense keyboard.
With swiftkey it is even better!
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Closed Source Project said:
Please don't be a ****. From your signature it looks like you don't even have this device. You are probably one of the trolls who wrote bad reviews.
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Just because I dont own it doesnt mean I havent used it. I work for a phone shop and my co-worker has this phone. I think it's "interesting" to see HTC uses the S3 in the version sold in all regions in Asian Pacific, and yet charges the same price as the S4 version. Not sure how amazing Sense 4.1 will be once it comes but from what I've seen out of the box it's laggy. But I guess it's gonna really a big injustice since no-one asks for it anyway. Everyone buys either Samsung or Apple or (rarely) One X.
I think I should shut my mouth because when people say the truth on here they are often mistaken for being trolls and get banned. Scary.
laggy? sense 4.0 on my one s is less laggy than my friends SGS3 and even iphone4.
you sir, are biased and doesnt know what you are talking about.
and about the phones people buy, that has to do nothing with the wellness of the phones, its absolutely marketing, which HTC lacks alot.
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laggy? sense 4.0 on my one s is less laggy than my friends SGS3 and even iphone4.
you sir, are biased and doesnt know what you are talking about.
and about the phones people buy, that has to do nothing with the wellness of the phones, its absolutely marketing, which HTC lacks alot.
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Biased? lol yeah right I dont even own those phones. And to say that sense 4.0 is smoother than Touchcrap 4.0 and iOS5 is just outright lying. Yes it's smoother than sense 3.0 but it's still laggy and I have been following the One X long enough to know that A LOT OF people complain about how laggy sense 4.0 was.
And FYI people dont ask about HTC not because HTC doesnt advertise enough. As a matter of fact a lot people know about them. They just dont buy them because HTC has the reputation of making buggy phones. And as a former owner of 2 HTC phones I cant say I disagree.
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Just because I dont own it doesnt mean I havent used it. I work for a phone shop and my co-worker has this phone. I think it's "interesting" to see HTC uses the S3 in the version sold in all regions in Asian Pacific, and yet charges the same price as the S4 version. Not sure how amazing Sense 4.1 will be once it comes but from what I've seen out of the box it's laggy. But I guess it's gonna really a big injustice since no-one asks for it anyway. Everyone buys either Samsung or Apple or (rarely) One X.
I think I should shut my mouth because when people say the truth on here they are often mistaken for being trolls and get banned. Scary.
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You got an S3, didn't you? I'm sorry about that and have been quite out-spoken about HTC's idiotic behavior regarding other countries, but the S4 One S is a great piece of machinery.
I have never had on hands experience with the S3 version so can't comment on it, however, when I have had my S4 one S side by side with the GS 3 (quad) and the 4s, the one S has been quicker/snappier/instant smartphone and the GS 3 appears smoother overall, although this is largely down to the animations and the animation scaling used, when JB arrives on both phones there should be no difference at all then really, in terms of smoothness.
I have found the 4s/4 to be laggy in quite a few places personally and not as silky smooth as what many people make it out to be.
Also, the one X hardware (tegra 3) was very poorly optimized with sense/ICS, when the mobile was first released, it was so laggy and nowhere as instant as the one S (S4), since the last update it has improved somewhat, however, still not as good as the S (S4) and GS 3, with JB it should be much better as the nexus 7 has the exact same hardware and it is smoother and faster than both the GS 3 and S, of course assuming HTC don't **** up with driver optimisation on sense Vxx whatever it will be with JB.
Regarding why people don't get HTC handsets, yes for some reason people seem to think they're an awful company with poor phones, I would have agreed with some of their phones (largely the desire HD, IMO their worst phone), however, most of their phones (especially the one series) are actually very good and out of the people I know who have a HTC android device have been very happy with theirs and not had any problems (a lot of people absolutely love sense, the homescreen and widgets impresses the "average joes" a lot). And it does largely come down to marketing/brand in the end, as in the UK here, the majority of ads that I see on TV, posters on bus stops etc. is for the GS 3, iphone, GS 2, galaxy ACE & Ace 2 (the Ace mobiles are bundled with very good network deals though, the ads aren't actually for the phones themselves) along with a few for the one X and virtually no ads at all for the one S (still have not seen a single ad on TV for the one S), people automatically recognise the GS 3 and iphones where as with the likes of HTC phones people aren't sure about them and automatically think they aren't good since they never heard of them.
It is a shame because HTC did start the "empire" of android with the hero, desire and nexus one, dread to think where android would be now if it weren't for them.
Ok so the galaxy s4 has finally been revealed. Its about the same amount of difference in the one and s4 as there was between the onex and s3 last year. The s4 has only marginally better features like a bigger removable battery, and an sd card, and a much more interactive ui. The htc one on the other hand is smaller and more compact which im sure many people will appreciate, and better build quality, and higher pixel density screen. I think the s4 and one are on pretty much level ground. Both are the top-of-the-line phones and have their strengths and weaknesses. Me being an htc guy all the way am just gonna stick with htc but anyone who choose the s4 has made a very solid choice and if you buy either one you definantly hadn't made a mistake. Last year the s3 was a little more expensive than the onex. If its the same way this year the s4 is gonna carry a hefty price tag. The one is already out of probably most people's budget on a phone at $649. Anyway, thats just my take on it. What's do yall think?
I think the S4's software its extremely bloated... i cant imagine how little that battery would last with everything on... and all the things they announced today are practically useless, the only thing i can imagine myself using is the S play feature, the other stuff is just for bragging your new phone. The One, on the other hand, is more like the iPhone, its different aspects combined to form an experience. It has the features you will probably use and if you need anything else, get it on the store.
Sorry but these threads never end well so if you want to ceate thread like this take to the general android section.
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I read through many of these threads and I was shocked to discover that most people are impressed with this new iteration of the galaxy line. Im not a hater of Samsung I love my s3 but this seems to be a minor upgrade. The new features like pictures with sound and the eye tracking seem gimmicky. Yes Ik there are more upgrades than the gimmicks but most were very expected things like the larger screen, battery, and upgraded camera. I feel this would serve better as a s3+ or something of that nature. Am I in the minority thinking this way?
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crashck said:
I read through many of these threads and I was shocked to discover that most people are impressed with this new iteration of the galaxy line. Im not a hater of Samsung I love my s3 but this seems to be a minor upgrade. The new features like pictures with sound and the eye tracking seem gimmicky. Yes Ik there are more upgrades than the gimmicks but most were very expected things like the larger screen, battery, and upgraded camera. I feel this would serve better as a s3+ or something of that nature. Am I in the minority thinking this way?
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LoL
you're obviously very young and don't know (yet) how the (human) world works...
it's all about gaining money, power, prestige, ...
Core Facts vs S3
1. It's thinner, smaller and thus lighter.
2. Yet it has a bigger/better screen, is much stronger and way faster.
3. It has a bigger/better battery, camera,...
1 => speaks for itself
2 => Full HD Super AMOLED (new diamiond Matrix), Polycarbonate and Gorilla glass 3, Qualcomm 600/Exynos 5 Octa, LPDDR3 RAM,...)
3 => speaks for itself
Don't be fooled by what you hear and see on the internet. Listen inside yourself and get enlightened :laugh:
Do you really believe you need this or any other device? LoL, enjoy life mate
-Sam-
Edit: yes, it's a S3+
Consider that Samsung along with every other company that becomes successful in market share and sales will one day slow up on progression. Computers in general have done that and it's the "touch screen" age that has brought an innovation to laptops and desktops. That being said, dual core to quad core is a big move, 8MP to 13MP also very big. HD Screen with 441 PPI?? Not your run of the mill screen. Saying that changes were expected and now that we know is blah is kinda ignorant honestly. There are a LOT of people like myself who want a quad core samsung phone without the size and weight of the Galaxy Note 2. Despite the small margin of size difference, it's enough for those that want true one handed operation. The reasons could go on and on, but I laugh at people saying "Really? This is it? Not very innovative...In a way, a very very small way, it makes me feel sorry for Apple all these years for the exact same reasons. I'll never budge on them sticking to the same OS for 4 years being stupid, but the other things that "aren't innovative enough to appreciate" makes me wonder honestly what people really expect out of phones? Make Smoothies for you? Cook for you? Do your laundry for you? Silly really, but what are we really saying here?
matt.wolfley said:
Consider that Samsung along with every other company that becomes successful in market share and sales will one day slow up on progression. Computers in general have done that and it's the "touch screen" age that has brought an innovation to laptops and desktops. That being said, dual core to quad core is a big move, 8MP to 13MP also very big. HD Screen with 441 PPI?? Not your run of the mill screen. Saying that changes were expected and now that we know is blah is kinda ignorant honestly. There are a LOT of people like myself who want a quad core samsung phone without the size and weight of the Galaxy Note 2. Despite the small margin of size difference, it's enough for those that want true one handed operation. The reasons could go on and on, but I laugh at people saying "Really? This is it? Not very innovative...In a way, a very very small way, it makes me feel sorry for Apple all these years for the exact same reasons. I'll never budge on them sticking to the same OS for 4 years being stupid, but the other things that "aren't innovative enough to appreciate" makes me wonder honestly what people really expect out of phones? Make Smoothies for you? Cook for you? Do your laundry for you? Silly really, but what are we really saying here?
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Maybe the problem isn't with the phone itself but with your unrealistic expectations. Setting aside the new software features, s4 has better camera, better design with less bezel (though it looks very similar), bigger battery, screen resolution, screen size, processor, and newer android version than its 1year old predecessor. That's an improvement in every department basically. Don't know what you were expecting really?
I don't know why so many people are dissatisfied. I thinks it's a nice phone. Why is everyone complaining about Samsung not changing the design very much? There is nothing wrong with it. If it isn't broke then don't fix it. Samsung found a solid phone design and rolled with it. I'm just glad they didn't remove the sd card slot, added some nice features (even if some call them gimmicky). I probably won't buy it though, since my upgrade isn't for a year. I'll be interested to see what the gs5 is like next year.
Disappointed as well I wanted at least a new look.. And I heard the SGS3 is getting most of the new features of the 4 through updates anyways.
So just a little bummed about this phone
As someone that's planning on upgrading a gs2 (wife) and move away from windows phone (me) I found the style of the gs4 to be something that both my wife and I like. Some of the features built into the phone, while seemingly gimmicky such as the health/exercise tracking, appeal to me.
So compared to the last couple of phones my family has used, it will be a huge improvement. The last android phone I used was an og droid.
People are *itching left and right about the hardware being nothing and software being crap. So what exactly did you expect the phone to come with?
Octo core CPU and people moan, Snapdragon S600 CPU and people moan. Camera gets bumped up by 5mp to 13mp and people moan. Ships with the latest OS (4.2.2) and people moan. 2gb of ram and people moan. Diamond matrix (better than pentile matrix) and people moan. Larger screen and people moan. Higher resolution and people moan. Smaller body with better internals and people moan. Still has removable battery and people moan. Still has micro sd card slot and people moan. Updated "gimmick" features and people moan. Users have the choice of not using said "gimmick" features......and of course these people are still moaning. Foolishness
MohJee said:
Maybe the problem isn't with the phone itself but with your unrealistic expectations. Setting aside the new software features, s4 has better camera, better design with less bezel (though it looks very similar), bigger battery, screen resolution, screen size, processor, and newer android version than its 1year old predecessor. That's an improvement in every department basically. Don't know what you were expecting really?
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I want ONE upgrade in the S4 vs. the S3 above all others in the S4 - a radio with reception that works well on Verizon's network. The S3 sucks as a phone but is a wonderful PDA otherwise. It's an insult to phones to call it a smartphone since the phone blows big moose. At least Apple eventually admitted there was a problem with reception on the iphone. I realize the reception issue may be local to Verizon as the Sasmung Galaxy Nexus also sucked on Verizon's network even though the HTC DNA and RAZR work great.
I say let the free market speak what it thinks of the new S4.
See my post on this pricing thread to see what Ebay prices are, already: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39194227&postcount=6
Summary, all for GT-I9500, 16 or 64 GB, which is rumored selling in China already: Buy it now from US, $844 w/ free shipping. From UK another vendor at $752.
First lot of 2 GT-I9500 for US $1375, 2nd lot of 2 for $1225. Biy 20 and the 64 GB is $500 each.
I was expecting first units being sold closer to $1k. Between these prices, and the disappointment some posters have expressed, I think the GS4 may have under-whelmed. It may be getting looked at as an incremental GS3 update, especially since many software features will appear on the GS3.
I think the GS4 seems fine so far, but I'd really like to know the audio chip, and the prospects for FM radio on all variants (see sig).
But the free market probably knows more than I, or most of us do, LOL. Will be interesting to see how it plays out; (grabs popcorn...)
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I want ONE upgrade in the S4 vs. the S3 above all others in the S4 - a radio with reception that works well on Verizon's network. The S3 sucks as a phone but is a wonderful PDA otherwise. It's an insult to phones to call it a smartphone since the phone blows big moose. At least Apple eventually admitted there was a problem with reception on the iphone. I realize the reception issue may be local to Verizon as the Sasmung Galaxy Nexus also sucked on Verizon's network even though the HTC DNA and RAZR work great.
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As long as Samsung continues to use the same radio set up that it has used on the charge, the nexus, and the S3, reception is going to continue to be weak on Verizon's network.
The S4 is a huge upgrade from the S3; on the inside. But for me I don't care one bit that the phone looks the same because I've used cases on all my phone since the Droid OG days. The HTC Touch Pro 2 was the last phone I went caseless and it really started to look bad after white glove use. After that every phone I bought got a medium to heavy duty case.
I actually would have been upset at Samsung if they used a metal design and in the process deleted the removable battery. You can't make everyone happy unless you release 2 models at the same time.
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I read through many of these threads and I was shocked to discover that most people are impressed with this new iteration of the galaxy line. Im not a hater of Samsung I love my s3 but this seems to be a minor upgrade. The new features like pictures with sound and the eye tracking seem gimmicky. Yes Ik there are more upgrades than the gimmicks but most were very expected things like the larger screen, battery, and upgraded camera. I feel this would serve better as a s3+ or something of that nature. Am I in the minority thinking this way?
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People were saying the exact same thing when the S3 came out. "It's ugly", "it's iterative", "it's gimmicky". But it got rave reviews. Why? Because it was the best smartphone you could buy at the time, and the S4 will fill the same role this time around. If you look at the comments (and even articles) on the S4 on tech sites, you'll see people foaming at the mouth, seemingly furious that Samsung dared release this product. It doesn't help that random internet users and articles alike are spreading misinformation (about the size of the device, about the processors used in both the international and U.S. versions, about how Samsung apparently forced the S3 on everyone through marketing, etc.).
Here's my take on the S4 and why I think it is the best phone available and will sell even more than the S3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39186031&postcount=13
I really don't know what people are expecting from the S4... If Samsung came up with a different design but lower specs, people would say it's not worth it to upgrade because the hardware is not good enough. And now they will not upgrade because of the shape. I personally see fitting a 5" screen on the device size is revolutionary already.
Moreover, what you get with Samsung, you don't get with HTC and Sony. These motion features, gestures, built-in apps, dual camera, and using the phone with gloves are what make the S4 the S4.
The HTC One is too thick (and probably heavy) for a smartphone, while the screen of the Xperia Z is not the best on market. Personally, I think the S4, especially the Exynos 5 version can never be made by a different comany.
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The HTC One is too thick (and probably heavy) for a smartphone, while the screen of the Xperia Z is not the best on market. Personally, I think the S4, especially the Exynos 5 version can never be made by a different comany.
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+ the S4 has both removable battery and micro sd-card slot...
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I'm hugely disappointing in it, especially in the cheap look and no doubt cheap feel it will have. Where as you look at the HTC One Sony XZ and no doubt any forth coming Motorola phones to see the massive improvement in build quality and considerably better premium feel to it.
I have the S3, love it, but the one downside is just how rubbish it feels in the hand. I don't want a light phone, I want a decently heavy phone that feels like the $1k I drop to buy it. The features they've included only further bloat the already gimmicky software.
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People are *itching left and right about the hardware being nothing and software being crap. So what exactly did you expect the phone to come with?
Octo core CPU and people moan, Snapdragon S600 CPU and people moan. Camera gets bumped up by 5mp to 13mp and people moan. Ships with the latest OS (4.2.2) and people moan. 2gb of ram and people moan. Diamond matrix (better than pentile matrix) and people moan. Larger screen and people moan. Higher resolution and people moan. Smaller body with better internals and people moan. Still has removable battery and people moan. Still has micro sd card slot and people moan. Updated "gimmick" features and people moan. Users have the choice of not using said "gimmick" features......and of course these people are still moaning. Foolishness
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sgs4 will ship with 4.2.1 and a month later samsung will put out an update to 4.2.2
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/08/galaxy-s-iv-to-have-floating-touch-and-green-pholed-material-amoled-display/
http://thequantummechanics.wordpress.com/tag/samsung-galaxy-s4/
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I have the S3, love it, but the one downside is just how rubbish it feels in the hand. I don't want a light phone, I want a decently heavy phone that feels like the $1k I drop to buy it. The features they've included only further bloat the already gimmicky software.
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100% subjective. I don't want a thicker, heavier device that I will feel in my pocket and will hit the ground harder when I drop it—and get even bulkier and heavier with a case. Thinner and lighter has been the trend for a while and people seem to like it. I also don't see how you can see all of Samsung's features as bloat and gimmicks when not only does Sense weigh down the interface more than TouchWiz, but you can't even turn off some of the added 'features' like you can with TouchWiz. Everyone I know with an S3 or Note 2 enjoys leaving on and using features like Smart Stay, Smart Rotation, Direct Call, One-Handed Operation Mode, Multi-Window, Swipe to Capture, etc. even if they don't use the more gimmicky stuff like the panning gestures. And while some of the S apps aren't as useful as others (S Voice and Samsung's hubs are probably the worst offenders), they're no worse than HTC's 'bloat' apps and hubs.
The reactions to the S4 are uncannily like the reactions to the S3 and the Note 2 last year. Then also the initial reaction was disappointment which vanished after the devices were actually released.
The idea that the S4 is like the S3 S is pretty ridiculous IMO. Here is a list of hardware improvements over the S3:
Octacore processor
Better GPU
1080P screen
2GB RAM
2600 mAh battery
Gorilla Glass 3
13 MP camera
infra red
thermometer sensor
humidity sensor
Which phone out there has improved more than this in a year? And the software improvements are decent too. As usual with Samsung it's hit and miss, but you only need a couple of hits for it to be worthwhile. I think the camera software in particular is impressive.