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Hi all.
I know this is an HTC One S forum, but I want to ask a more general question regarding the decision to buy a new phone.
Up until a few weeks ago, I was set to buy the Galaxy S2. It felt like an adequate replacement for my S1 in term of CPU power and daily needs. Then I saw the One S and sort of fell in love with its design and theoretically strong build. Needless to say the latest reports on the MAO issue have made rethink of buying this phone.
I went through a lot of comparisons between the HTC One S and other phones (Xperia S, SGS2 to name a few), and then I stopped and thought to myself - after the initial enthusiasm, what will I benefit from having HOS instead of say the SGS2?
So, what do you think? What made you choose HOS over SGS2 (or other phones for that matter)?
Thanks,
Boaz.
Get the grey one
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both phones are very good...In terms of spec there isnt a lot separating them.
i doubt you will be disappointed with either device, but for me the One S is superior.. The build quality is awesome, Samsung tend to produce 'plasticky' phones that are very brittle..
If you do get the One S, get they grey version, It doesnt suffer MAO issues. and just looks totally cool, especially with the blue camera, Thats a nice addition
The reason I went for the HOS was... *drumroll*... HTC...
HTC made the Hero.
HTC made the Desire.
Enough reasons right there.
Yeah... I am an HTC lover.
But!!!
I won't ever deny that Samsung makes good hardware (atleast on the inside). But as I don't like plastic things that acts like fingerprint magnets the choice was easy to make.
i have the grey version which seems to be less prone to the chipping condition . Two weeks in and mine is still OK.
I had the S2 and I can tell you that I like the S because
1) The battery time is excellent
2) Screen is great
3) Build is far better than the S2 . Not so plastic
4) It's fast and I mean fast
The only thing I would have liked was the expansion of memory but 16gb is holding up well for me .
Well I know that in the past there were similar questions and threads but they were general discussions. Anyway I need some opinions and here is my question. I'm a proud owner of HOS S4 and I m really content with it. But our firm gives us SGS3 (International). In the end, I'll pick one of these phones and will give the other to my wife
Because of build quality, general performance, size etc. I would prefer HOS. Because it was also my choice over SGS3 when I first bought it. But there is two things thingles in my mind
First: I intend to use the phone for 2-3 years. When you look from hardware perspective, which one of these phone, do you think, will technologicaly endure more, after, lets say, 2 years?
Second: I never used although tempted by ability to use two apps in split screen on SGS3. But I don't have experience about what it is like in real world. Is it a dealbreaker? Do you think it can be a reason to choose SGS3 over HOS?
Thanks for your opinions.
maluus said:
Well I know that in the past there were similar questions and threads but they were general discussions. Anyway I need some opinions and here is my question. I'm a proud owner of HOS S4 and I m really content with it. But our firm gives us SGS3 (International). In the end, I'll pick one of these phones and will give the other to my wife
Because of build quality, general performance, size etc. I would prefer HOS. Because it was also my choice over SGS3 when I first bought it. But there is two things thingles in my mind
First: I intend to use the phone for 2-3 years. When you look from hardware perspective, which one of these phone, do you think, will technologicaly endure more, after, lets say, 2 years?
Second: I never used although tempted by ability to use two apps in split screen on SGS3. But I don't have experience about what it is like in real world. Is it a dealbreaker? Do you think it can be a reason to choose SGS3 over HOS?
Thanks for your opinions.
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As far as build quality... I've never owned an S3 but I had an S2 that cracked RIGHT OPEN because it's made of plastic... I believe the S3 is as well, right? The HTC One S has the clear advantage when it comes to the physical shell. Metal beats plastic any day for me... The S3 is better hardware wise, the international is quad-core tegra if I'm not mistaken but I'd still pick the HOS S4 myself.
1. When the one S struggles, the GS 3 will struggle, there is nothing that either phone will struggle with in 2 years time apart from some more demanding games probably.
Just look at the GS 2 and GN, both still perform very well (granted the one S and GS 3 feel quicker in general stuff but the difference isn't as vast, thanks to jellybean) yet their hardware is inferior to both and they are what? 2 years old now? And I can see both doing well for another year.
2. Up to you really, I think it is a cool feature, however, when I think about it, I would very rarely use it, now on a note II, then things would be different due to the screen size. Besides you can get apps on the market, which allows you to multi-task in a similar way such as over skreen:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...vbS5teWJveWZyaWVuZGlzYWdlZWsuYWlyYnJvd3NlciJd
The main thing that I would look at though is software updates, which will be supported for longer and how quick will the updates be delivered? Unfortunately too hard to say, although Samsung are very slow when it comes to their phones which are no longer number 1....
Saying that, no company has commented on 4.2 yet and the next android version (KLP) is due in May and if it is as big as what ICS was, then chances are you are going to be waiting 9+ months anyway regardless of what phone you stick with.
And no, the international is not tegra, but exynos, S4 chipset is still better overall.
Also, phones might be plastic, however, that doesn't necessarily mean that they will have poor durability. Aluminium phones are usually more likely to damage due to them not "absorbing" the shock as well. The GS 2 is one of the most durable smartphones, GS 3 isn't, because the glass extends right to the edge so the one S would be more durable than the GS 3. At the end of the day, it comes down to luck and where/how the phone lands.
maluus said:
Well I know that in the past there were similar questions and threads but they were general discussions. Anyway I need some opinions and here is my question. I'm a proud owner of HOS S4 and I m really content with it. But our firm gives us SGS3 (International). In the end, I'll pick one of these phones and will give the other to my wife
Because of build quality, general performance, size etc. I would prefer HOS. Because it was also my choice over SGS3 when I first bought it. But there is two things thingles in my mind
First: I intend to use the phone for 2-3 years. When you look from hardware perspective, which one of these phone, do you think, will technologicaly endure more, after, lets say, 2 years?
Second: I never used although tempted by ability to use two apps in split screen on SGS3. But I don't have experience about what it is like in real world. Is it a dealbreaker? Do you think it can be a reason to choose SGS3 over HOS?
Thanks for your opinions.
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I'm a proud owner of a HOS S4, rooted and all! Problems I HAD with my phone were before I rooted it. One major issue with the HOS is that my connectivity was really BAD, barely 1G indoors! This was, however, the only problem.
As far as I know the s3 does not have such problems (maybe other kinds, I don't know). It has superior hardware and capabillities though.
So my opinion: if you're not rooting the HOS go for the s3. If you ARE rooting, stick to the HOS, best device for customization
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The HOS is an excellent device. Plain and simple.
For the 2nd question... I dont think its a dealbreaker... I think the screens on a phone is too small to fully enjoy such a feature.
Had it been a tablet in question here, then I would probably be quite interested in that feature myself.
The S have plenty of power, so switching apps isnt really such a big issue as it can be on slower devices.
Thanks for all your opinions. You helped to strengthen my heartily decision. I ll keep my dear HOS.
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I read through many of these threads and I was shocked to discover that most people are impressed with this new iteration of the galaxy line. Im not a hater of Samsung I love my s3 but this seems to be a minor upgrade. The new features like pictures with sound and the eye tracking seem gimmicky. Yes Ik there are more upgrades than the gimmicks but most were very expected things like the larger screen, battery, and upgraded camera. I feel this would serve better as a s3+ or something of that nature. Am I in the minority thinking this way?
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I read through many of these threads and I was shocked to discover that most people are impressed with this new iteration of the galaxy line. Im not a hater of Samsung I love my s3 but this seems to be a minor upgrade. The new features like pictures with sound and the eye tracking seem gimmicky. Yes Ik there are more upgrades than the gimmicks but most were very expected things like the larger screen, battery, and upgraded camera. I feel this would serve better as a s3+ or something of that nature. Am I in the minority thinking this way?
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LoL
you're obviously very young and don't know (yet) how the (human) world works...
it's all about gaining money, power, prestige, ...
Core Facts vs S3
1. It's thinner, smaller and thus lighter.
2. Yet it has a bigger/better screen, is much stronger and way faster.
3. It has a bigger/better battery, camera,...
1 => speaks for itself
2 => Full HD Super AMOLED (new diamiond Matrix), Polycarbonate and Gorilla glass 3, Qualcomm 600/Exynos 5 Octa, LPDDR3 RAM,...)
3 => speaks for itself
Don't be fooled by what you hear and see on the internet. Listen inside yourself and get enlightened :laugh:
Do you really believe you need this or any other device? LoL, enjoy life mate
-Sam-
Edit: yes, it's a S3+
Consider that Samsung along with every other company that becomes successful in market share and sales will one day slow up on progression. Computers in general have done that and it's the "touch screen" age that has brought an innovation to laptops and desktops. That being said, dual core to quad core is a big move, 8MP to 13MP also very big. HD Screen with 441 PPI?? Not your run of the mill screen. Saying that changes were expected and now that we know is blah is kinda ignorant honestly. There are a LOT of people like myself who want a quad core samsung phone without the size and weight of the Galaxy Note 2. Despite the small margin of size difference, it's enough for those that want true one handed operation. The reasons could go on and on, but I laugh at people saying "Really? This is it? Not very innovative...In a way, a very very small way, it makes me feel sorry for Apple all these years for the exact same reasons. I'll never budge on them sticking to the same OS for 4 years being stupid, but the other things that "aren't innovative enough to appreciate" makes me wonder honestly what people really expect out of phones? Make Smoothies for you? Cook for you? Do your laundry for you? Silly really, but what are we really saying here?
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Consider that Samsung along with every other company that becomes successful in market share and sales will one day slow up on progression. Computers in general have done that and it's the "touch screen" age that has brought an innovation to laptops and desktops. That being said, dual core to quad core is a big move, 8MP to 13MP also very big. HD Screen with 441 PPI?? Not your run of the mill screen. Saying that changes were expected and now that we know is blah is kinda ignorant honestly. There are a LOT of people like myself who want a quad core samsung phone without the size and weight of the Galaxy Note 2. Despite the small margin of size difference, it's enough for those that want true one handed operation. The reasons could go on and on, but I laugh at people saying "Really? This is it? Not very innovative...In a way, a very very small way, it makes me feel sorry for Apple all these years for the exact same reasons. I'll never budge on them sticking to the same OS for 4 years being stupid, but the other things that "aren't innovative enough to appreciate" makes me wonder honestly what people really expect out of phones? Make Smoothies for you? Cook for you? Do your laundry for you? Silly really, but what are we really saying here?
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Maybe the problem isn't with the phone itself but with your unrealistic expectations. Setting aside the new software features, s4 has better camera, better design with less bezel (though it looks very similar), bigger battery, screen resolution, screen size, processor, and newer android version than its 1year old predecessor. That's an improvement in every department basically. Don't know what you were expecting really?
I don't know why so many people are dissatisfied. I thinks it's a nice phone. Why is everyone complaining about Samsung not changing the design very much? There is nothing wrong with it. If it isn't broke then don't fix it. Samsung found a solid phone design and rolled with it. I'm just glad they didn't remove the sd card slot, added some nice features (even if some call them gimmicky). I probably won't buy it though, since my upgrade isn't for a year. I'll be interested to see what the gs5 is like next year.
Disappointed as well I wanted at least a new look.. And I heard the SGS3 is getting most of the new features of the 4 through updates anyways.
So just a little bummed about this phone
As someone that's planning on upgrading a gs2 (wife) and move away from windows phone (me) I found the style of the gs4 to be something that both my wife and I like. Some of the features built into the phone, while seemingly gimmicky such as the health/exercise tracking, appeal to me.
So compared to the last couple of phones my family has used, it will be a huge improvement. The last android phone I used was an og droid.
People are *itching left and right about the hardware being nothing and software being crap. So what exactly did you expect the phone to come with?
Octo core CPU and people moan, Snapdragon S600 CPU and people moan. Camera gets bumped up by 5mp to 13mp and people moan. Ships with the latest OS (4.2.2) and people moan. 2gb of ram and people moan. Diamond matrix (better than pentile matrix) and people moan. Larger screen and people moan. Higher resolution and people moan. Smaller body with better internals and people moan. Still has removable battery and people moan. Still has micro sd card slot and people moan. Updated "gimmick" features and people moan. Users have the choice of not using said "gimmick" features......and of course these people are still moaning. Foolishness
MohJee said:
Maybe the problem isn't with the phone itself but with your unrealistic expectations. Setting aside the new software features, s4 has better camera, better design with less bezel (though it looks very similar), bigger battery, screen resolution, screen size, processor, and newer android version than its 1year old predecessor. That's an improvement in every department basically. Don't know what you were expecting really?
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I want ONE upgrade in the S4 vs. the S3 above all others in the S4 - a radio with reception that works well on Verizon's network. The S3 sucks as a phone but is a wonderful PDA otherwise. It's an insult to phones to call it a smartphone since the phone blows big moose. At least Apple eventually admitted there was a problem with reception on the iphone. I realize the reception issue may be local to Verizon as the Sasmung Galaxy Nexus also sucked on Verizon's network even though the HTC DNA and RAZR work great.
I say let the free market speak what it thinks of the new S4.
See my post on this pricing thread to see what Ebay prices are, already: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39194227&postcount=6
Summary, all for GT-I9500, 16 or 64 GB, which is rumored selling in China already: Buy it now from US, $844 w/ free shipping. From UK another vendor at $752.
First lot of 2 GT-I9500 for US $1375, 2nd lot of 2 for $1225. Biy 20 and the 64 GB is $500 each.
I was expecting first units being sold closer to $1k. Between these prices, and the disappointment some posters have expressed, I think the GS4 may have under-whelmed. It may be getting looked at as an incremental GS3 update, especially since many software features will appear on the GS3.
I think the GS4 seems fine so far, but I'd really like to know the audio chip, and the prospects for FM radio on all variants (see sig).
But the free market probably knows more than I, or most of us do, LOL. Will be interesting to see how it plays out; (grabs popcorn...)
boe said:
I want ONE upgrade in the S4 vs. the S3 above all others in the S4 - a radio with reception that works well on Verizon's network. The S3 sucks as a phone but is a wonderful PDA otherwise. It's an insult to phones to call it a smartphone since the phone blows big moose. At least Apple eventually admitted there was a problem with reception on the iphone. I realize the reception issue may be local to Verizon as the Sasmung Galaxy Nexus also sucked on Verizon's network even though the HTC DNA and RAZR work great.
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As long as Samsung continues to use the same radio set up that it has used on the charge, the nexus, and the S3, reception is going to continue to be weak on Verizon's network.
The S4 is a huge upgrade from the S3; on the inside. But for me I don't care one bit that the phone looks the same because I've used cases on all my phone since the Droid OG days. The HTC Touch Pro 2 was the last phone I went caseless and it really started to look bad after white glove use. After that every phone I bought got a medium to heavy duty case.
I actually would have been upset at Samsung if they used a metal design and in the process deleted the removable battery. You can't make everyone happy unless you release 2 models at the same time.
crashck said:
I read through many of these threads and I was shocked to discover that most people are impressed with this new iteration of the galaxy line. Im not a hater of Samsung I love my s3 but this seems to be a minor upgrade. The new features like pictures with sound and the eye tracking seem gimmicky. Yes Ik there are more upgrades than the gimmicks but most were very expected things like the larger screen, battery, and upgraded camera. I feel this would serve better as a s3+ or something of that nature. Am I in the minority thinking this way?
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People were saying the exact same thing when the S3 came out. "It's ugly", "it's iterative", "it's gimmicky". But it got rave reviews. Why? Because it was the best smartphone you could buy at the time, and the S4 will fill the same role this time around. If you look at the comments (and even articles) on the S4 on tech sites, you'll see people foaming at the mouth, seemingly furious that Samsung dared release this product. It doesn't help that random internet users and articles alike are spreading misinformation (about the size of the device, about the processors used in both the international and U.S. versions, about how Samsung apparently forced the S3 on everyone through marketing, etc.).
Here's my take on the S4 and why I think it is the best phone available and will sell even more than the S3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39186031&postcount=13
I really don't know what people are expecting from the S4... If Samsung came up with a different design but lower specs, people would say it's not worth it to upgrade because the hardware is not good enough. And now they will not upgrade because of the shape. I personally see fitting a 5" screen on the device size is revolutionary already.
Moreover, what you get with Samsung, you don't get with HTC and Sony. These motion features, gestures, built-in apps, dual camera, and using the phone with gloves are what make the S4 the S4.
The HTC One is too thick (and probably heavy) for a smartphone, while the screen of the Xperia Z is not the best on market. Personally, I think the S4, especially the Exynos 5 version can never be made by a different comany.
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The HTC One is too thick (and probably heavy) for a smartphone, while the screen of the Xperia Z is not the best on market. Personally, I think the S4, especially the Exynos 5 version can never be made by a different comany.
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+ the S4 has both removable battery and micro sd-card slot...
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I'm hugely disappointing in it, especially in the cheap look and no doubt cheap feel it will have. Where as you look at the HTC One Sony XZ and no doubt any forth coming Motorola phones to see the massive improvement in build quality and considerably better premium feel to it.
I have the S3, love it, but the one downside is just how rubbish it feels in the hand. I don't want a light phone, I want a decently heavy phone that feels like the $1k I drop to buy it. The features they've included only further bloat the already gimmicky software.
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People are *itching left and right about the hardware being nothing and software being crap. So what exactly did you expect the phone to come with?
Octo core CPU and people moan, Snapdragon S600 CPU and people moan. Camera gets bumped up by 5mp to 13mp and people moan. Ships with the latest OS (4.2.2) and people moan. 2gb of ram and people moan. Diamond matrix (better than pentile matrix) and people moan. Larger screen and people moan. Higher resolution and people moan. Smaller body with better internals and people moan. Still has removable battery and people moan. Still has micro sd card slot and people moan. Updated "gimmick" features and people moan. Users have the choice of not using said "gimmick" features......and of course these people are still moaning. Foolishness
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sgs4 will ship with 4.2.1 and a month later samsung will put out an update to 4.2.2
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/08/galaxy-s-iv-to-have-floating-touch-and-green-pholed-material-amoled-display/
http://thequantummechanics.wordpress.com/tag/samsung-galaxy-s4/
kopkiwi said:
I have the S3, love it, but the one downside is just how rubbish it feels in the hand. I don't want a light phone, I want a decently heavy phone that feels like the $1k I drop to buy it. The features they've included only further bloat the already gimmicky software.
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100% subjective. I don't want a thicker, heavier device that I will feel in my pocket and will hit the ground harder when I drop it—and get even bulkier and heavier with a case. Thinner and lighter has been the trend for a while and people seem to like it. I also don't see how you can see all of Samsung's features as bloat and gimmicks when not only does Sense weigh down the interface more than TouchWiz, but you can't even turn off some of the added 'features' like you can with TouchWiz. Everyone I know with an S3 or Note 2 enjoys leaving on and using features like Smart Stay, Smart Rotation, Direct Call, One-Handed Operation Mode, Multi-Window, Swipe to Capture, etc. even if they don't use the more gimmicky stuff like the panning gestures. And while some of the S apps aren't as useful as others (S Voice and Samsung's hubs are probably the worst offenders), they're no worse than HTC's 'bloat' apps and hubs.
The reactions to the S4 are uncannily like the reactions to the S3 and the Note 2 last year. Then also the initial reaction was disappointment which vanished after the devices were actually released.
The idea that the S4 is like the S3 S is pretty ridiculous IMO. Here is a list of hardware improvements over the S3:
Octacore processor
Better GPU
1080P screen
2GB RAM
2600 mAh battery
Gorilla Glass 3
13 MP camera
infra red
thermometer sensor
humidity sensor
Which phone out there has improved more than this in a year? And the software improvements are decent too. As usual with Samsung it's hit and miss, but you only need a couple of hits for it to be worthwhile. I think the camera software in particular is impressive.
I currently have the S3, i have previously owned the S2 and S1 and was hoping for a simply upgrade process again, Sammy bring out a storming phone, I buy it and nobody else gets a look in.
However tsamsung have overcomplicated what should have been an easy decision to the point when I am now considering a HTC one, crazy I Know. The HTC one is a beauitiful looking phone and it is pretty much as powerful as the snap S4 600 so why shouldnt I buy it?, this is where sammy has failed to me, they let HTC get in on the high end.
However, the Ones's screen for me isnt even as good as my s3's, the colours are much richer and the blacks blacker, no contest for me (personal Taste).
So with the one out of the window do I wait for the Octa or get the 600 version, I just cant decide, will I really me missing something if I get the 600 version?
Since you posted in S4 forum I think you unconsciously already made a decision. The most answers here will be biased towards S4 (mine included). If you really wanted HTC One you'd posting there.
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Since you posted in S4 forum I think you unconsciously already made a decision. The most answers here will be biased towards S4 (mine included). If you really wanted HTC One you'd posting there.
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I your read I have already kind of ruled out the One, i just cant decide whether I should go 600 or wait for the OCta.
Both are good phones and at this point I think the choice is even more (compared to other comparisons where the race was not this close) about personal preference than which phone is better.
If you are talking about samsung offering different processors which complicates things, maybe my thoughts help:
- Unless you make the effort of importing a foreign phone at increased cost you typically do not have the choice between the I9505 and the I9500. You get the one samsung chose for the region (the i9505 for the US and central Europe), at least for the next few months (for me it's just speculation if/when the Exynos gets available genarally).
- Both pocessors are decent and I think for most users it makes no real difference. They would likely not notice the difference. The Exynos seemes to have an edge in speed and possibly battery life, but also consider that the snapdragon is more open and developers are more willing and able to develop/optimize for it. And since the snapdagon will be more wide-spread you'll also find more roms for it (assuming the rom's will only work on the model they are built for).
- It is not that Samsung created the 'choice' of processors willingly, they are forced to it since they cannot produce enough Exynos processors to meet the demands. If they could, Samsung would only use it's own Exynos.
If you meant other aspects that make the choice for difficult for you, please go ahead and mention them
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I your read I have already kind of ruled out the One, i just cant decide whether I should go 600 or wait for the OCta.
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If you don't have LTE in your country or is just too damn expensive (like in my country) and you don't care to much about custom development then go for the Exynos because it will be probably cheaper and possibly better in performance/battery. Otherwise go for the Snapdragon.
Im a bit investigating similar topic so maybe I will help you somehow. Basically it looks like this:
- htc one is a great looking phone with top-notch lcd display and it will be probably the area you will love
- performance wise - htc looks average, s4 lte seems to have better ram and is overclocked, octa is expected to be benchmark king. octa is full a15 architecture but a bit old overclocked GPU
- if you like sense - new sense looks different. well sense 5 looks interesting but it seems it eats standby time and for me is a first feature to be disabled. I use nova + my set of widgets/apps so basically I dont give a f*** if its a sense or TW based firmware
- htc seems to be fragile and difficult to repair. top and bottom panels drops off quite often, aluminium body is not so hard and can be broken/dented
- screen in htc is smaller but as I said its a top lcd screen for now (there is a topic that htc use different screen suplier with quite different brighness/color setup) - some screens look poor
- if you like amoled or you are used to amoled - you will notice poor black in htc and probably also notice better brightness in s4 (around 25%-30% more than s3)
- qualcomm SOC seems to be prefered platform for now so if you are CM lover, it looks like the only choice. Exynos is the worst enemy of entropy512 so dont expect much of teamhacksung
- exycon is supposed to have wolfson DAC, but s600 is getting great sound reviews too. Htc one seems to be really well configured in audio department
- battery wise - htc one has smaller battery, smaller lcd screen which means better browsing time. s4 has bigger batter, bigger amoled screen but suprisingly similar browsing time and great stand by time
- base on s3/hox experience - htc looks pretty bad in soft update area but it doesnt mean htc one will have to wait years for 4.2. if htc one+ will apear in following 3 months - expect crap soft updates
- button layouts - if you are galaxy user, expect frustration in two-buttons HTC setup. Only back on the left and home on the right with useless giant htc label in the middle
- htc - no sd card and no battery. I basically watch movies/tv series and play games in free time beside usual stuff so no sd card is a no go. Big screen + sd card is a must have
- octa seems to be a lot more interesting, bit.LITTLE can be tweaked to operate on 8 cores, can be separately overclocked on a7/a15 cores - sounds like a lot of fun
these are just some subjects that I noticed and I may be totally wrong
Dont get me wrong its going to be an S4, my friend sat next to me at work has a ONE and the screen is nice but isnt as nice as my Galaxy S3 in my humble opinion.
If I knew how long I'd have to wait to get my hands on the OCTa, lte or not in the UK then I might be able to make a decision, hence why i feel Sammy has dropped the ball her for high end users.
I wonder which will get more development. The international version or the US version. I know there are some ROMs that are only available for the international version of the S3.
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da.trute said:
I currently have the S3, i have previously owned the S2 and S1 and was hoping for a simply upgrade process again, Sammy bring out a storming phone, I buy it and nobody else gets a look in.
However tsamsung have overcomplicated what should have been an easy decision to the point when I am now considering a HTC one, crazy I Know. The HTC one is a beauitiful looking phone and it is pretty much as powerful as the snap S4 600 so why shouldnt I buy it?, this is where sammy has failed to me, they let HTC get in on the high end.
However, the Ones's screen for me isnt even as good as my s3's, the colours are much richer and the blacks blacker, no contest for me (personal Taste).
So with the one out of the window do I wait for the Octa or get the 600 version, I just cant decide, will I really me missing something if I get the 600 version?
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I would stick with the S600 variant S4. More development and the enhanced Adreno 320 is proving to be a beast. If I decided to get an S4 it would be hands down the S600 for me.
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I wonder which will get more development. The international version or the US version. I know there are some ROMs that are only available for the international version of the S3.
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it has been suggested that there will be more Dev on the 600 version as there will be more of them which makes sense, however I always use tweaked sammy based ROMS rather new DEV stuff like cyanogen than so there will be more than enough Dev on the OCTA for me.
Unfortunately i have to understand S4 S600 LTE version is more complete than Exynos without LTE.
At moment here we pay in any plane more €10\month to have 4G with extra 3Gb, but I think sooner or later 4G will be free.
Between have a slightly higher value in bench's i'd rather buy a phone that will not let me down on LTE question.
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With LTE i have a much faster phone than a higher bench without LTE ... looool
Now with this in mind in can buy a S4 S600 in peace with Sam.
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it has been suggested that there will be more Dev on the 600 version as there will be more of them which makes sense, however I always use tweaked sammy based ROMS rather new DEV stuff like cyanogen than so there will be more than enough Dev on the OCTA for me.
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The main issue for me will be when Sammy stops updating the S4 maybe 1.5-2 years down the line. The S4 has great hardware and should run well into 3 years of use, and the only thing that will keep it updated is dev support and aosp/aosp-derivative ROMs. I'll wait till i decide which variant to buy depending on how open each variant turns out to be for dev-work.
Was wondering if starting a petition this time might help. Before, petitions were started after people bought the phones so sammy already made the sale. This time, it could mean a loss of customers for sammy if they don't release complete and updated code and documentation.
Its all the same, nevertheless. I find nexus 6P more elegant and unique, thus the reason buying it because theres so many people with samsung devices, even low class people which just filters out its uniqueness and its price tag making it look worthless outside. What are your opinions? If your on Samsung S6/Edge/+, would you have the need to upgrade to an device such as Samsung S7?
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I've posted an explanation as to what low class in this instance means. forgive me if it had you in any way, i was never trying to make any of you owners sad, its just that for so many, they have this phone and it just gets rid of its status 'elegant'. Elegant is ment to be beautiful, stylish. But when everyone has this 'elegant' phone, where does the definition exist of being stylish?
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I love the samsung edge because its invention of curve screen. I've even had friends give them to me to try for an hour or so. The thing is that, i don't like people having the same phone as me. I was about to get the nexus 5x but one of my friends got it, so i went ahead with nexus 6p. But that doesnt mean that i would get another new phone if someone else has the same phone as me because that would be regarded as wasting money.
I agree I'm in a bond my Samsung smartphone if I should get the new one must have something waw and cool and interesting
I got my Galaxy S phone to be different from everybody else.
Then I got my Galaxy S4/S5 because they were simply the best.
Samsung is neither unique or the best anymore so...
Nexus6p stands strong in Android market . I hope Samsung won't compete to beat n6P with bloatware and bla bla. Hail nexus6p
After living with the LG G4 for a couple weeks, I'll be sticking with Samsung, if for no other reason that I FAR prefer the Home/capacative buttons that Samsung offers compared to the on screen buttons that all the other major makers use. Plus, I like Samsung's screens the best, & they are always at or near the top in camera, performance, etc. Custom ROMs take care of the bloat. Now, Samsung isn't perfect, & I am very disappointed by their removal of SD & replaceable battery, which is why I'm still hanging in there with my S4, which I had planned to replace with the S6. It looks like the SD is coming back, which will be probably be enough for me to go with the S7. If the S7 had replaceable battery, it would be a slam dunk for me. Despite the G4 having those features, it's size & button arrangement (including the power & volume) made it an overall less preferable unit to me than my aging S4.
I agree with the OP, my next device will be a Nexus one.
Not going to upgrade/downgrade from the note 4. But it will interesting to see if Samsung has learned something and if they will put the removable battery and a micro sd card back into their phones.
But yeah real buttons will always beat out in screen ones
So no one have an issue with this person stating even "low class" people have a Samsung?...Obviously not.
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If you can afford it buy Galaxy S7 or just buy some chinese Android phone.
But I definitely like to have microSD card back on Galaxy S7
You sound pretentious and terrible. Just because a company sells their product successfully does not make them worse. They're still using top of the line, listening to consumers by reinstating the microSD slot. You're not special because you have money to buy better products. If you wanna be so "different" go buy an iPhone. You have the same mindset as an apple fanboy.
Like most phones, upgrading every year isn't very appealing because there's only so much that can be improved. I wouldn't upgrade from a Galaxy S6. But I certainly will from my S5 Sport!
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Really, low class? Well you are the Messiah so I guess everyone is low class to you.
I agree with some of you, I don't seen the point of upgrading every year, there isn't a big enough difference between each years models. I don't mind iPhone once they are jailbroken, I have an iPhone 4 that has been through hell and back with me and still kicking. I have been through a kyocera slide I got stuck in boot loop and bricked a HTC desire. Now have an LG G3 that I love and haven't had any problems. If your going from a device that that is a couple models older and is going obsolete then upgrade, but most of us don't have the money laying around to to by a new phone every year.
Have they even set a release date for the Galaxy D7 yet?
By low class, you have to understand that i am not defining those who have samsung as lower class. its your choice to have it or not. but the thing is that wherever i go, everywhere! people have got either samsung or apple in their hands and to me it feels like its just too many. it just destroys its elegancy and its price tag. i don't know how to explain but I hope i cleared some misconceptions
Not usually one to post, but you're not helping yourself any with your explanation. You still come off as elitist, shallow, and rather petty to be honest.
Who cares how many people have a phone? Are you going to tell me an iPhone isn't nice because millions of people have one? Or that the Galaxy series is suddenly not one of the best phones, simply because more people have it?
I dunno if this is going to be breaking news to you, but with contract subsidies and pricing offers and various discounts, even the most expensive of smartphones are a relatively cheap luxury item. With the modern reliance on cellphones, and mobile data, of course having a good phone is going to be something most people will spend a few extra dollars on. Is it really a newsflash that people want the best? Or did you not consider that most people are flocking to the Galaxy series, and the iPhone lineup, because they have a longstanding legacy of being two of the best, powerhouse smartphones available.
Furthermore.. elegance? Really? They're phones, not watches. They're consumption devices that have increasingly more and more uses.. not just little gadgets people get, to show off how rich or awesome they are. Only the geekiest of the geeks have a nerdgasm about how much more elegant their phone is than the average person. The rest of us standard model geeks would rather just enjoy our phones as the tools that they are, and try to find the one that works best for us.
Well done, ThePheonixChameleon. I totally agree, although what do I know, I'm an inelegant, low-class owner of a Galaxy S4, no less.
There is no need to get a Samsung devuce, because there is OnePlus out there...
I was a great fan of Samsung devices, and I'm still are. But now I have two OnePlus devices and I'm very satisfied with them. So I won't get any other device for now and the near future. :beer:
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Well done, ThePheonixChameleon. I totally agree, although what do I know, I'm an inelegant, low-class owner of a Galaxy S4, no less.
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Ehh, I just picked up my fourth rooted Galaxy S3 off Swappa. Still clinging to that antique, cliche phone.. with it's plastic case and inelegant awesomeness that made it the only phone anyone wanted of it's generation.
I currently own a Galaxy S5 Sport. Great phone, but the first thing I did was flash CM12.1, waiting for CM13. Touchwiz is a piece of ****. Samsung phones are so much better than one would think if you get rid of the garbage stock ROM. I'm not just speaking aesthetically, the performance is atrocious. It's so smooth and never hangs up now, also doesn't force close when trying to do something intensive and the RAM management is much better!
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'm not just speaking aesthetically, the performance is atrocious. It's so smooth and never hangs up now, also doesn't force close when trying to do something intensive and the RAM management is much better!
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Totally agree. I also had a SGS5 before I exchanged it with the OnePlus Two. I tried a lot of different Rom's. The very best I flashed on it was AICP. I was very satisfied with that Rom. Maybe you will try it out. :thumbup: