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Holy cow, Inspire got thunderstruck.

How about that thunderbolt? Anybody thinking about switching?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/18/htc-thunderbolt-review/
16 mb/s dowload and 45 mb/s upload
My Inspire gets 1.9 mb/s down and 320 kb/s up. \
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AT&T is full of crap!!!

Wait till more than one phone is connected to the lte network and see what happens. I priced out moving my 4 lines over to verizon a few months ago, and it would have cost me $100 more per month.
I see 2.5-3.5 down and usually around 1.3 up. I'm more than happy about that. Most I've ever seen down is about 5, best upload was over 3.

I understand your point, but at least you can see that Verizon is not capping the upload speeds of TB and giving preference to iCrap users.

How can this be true? The picture clearly shows the Inspire 4G in Edge but the captions for the photo say the phone was in HSPA+?
I'm not saying that any 4G phone on AT&T can reach those LTE speeds, but the phone can pull better speeds with HSDPA, not Edge.

the makers of that app have reported problems in reporting the correct upload speed for the thunderbolt too, so the 45 mbps is innaccurate.
besides the main reason its this fast is because of the lack of competing lte signals for the phone as it is new, and att being behind in the lte game

I think the low signal has something to do with it too. I notice sometimes when I have 1 bar, even when connected to H+ I get intolerably slow speeds. But that pic is funny, good point with the Edge and the comment haha.

dacket84 said:
I think the low signal has something to do with it too. I notice sometimes when I have 1 bar, even when connected to H+ I get intolerably slow speeds. But that pic is funny, good point with the Edge and the comment haha.
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With 5 bars and H+ connected I get about 2 - 2.5 mb/s down and 320 kb/s up. Still, that's lousy compared to Verizon's 4g.

Inspire is not running on 4G yet
Go to settings, about phone, networks and it does not show hsdpa or hspa+ is shows UMTS which is also known as 3G....

ballinbashir said:
Go to settings, about phone, networks and it does not show hsdpa or hspa+ is shows UMTS which is also known as 3G....
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I'm running LeeDroids ROM and mine shows hsdpa..... never looked at it while it was stock, though.

Speed
Hi, here in Puerto Rico My best speed was 4.6 Down 1.8 Up...
Thats good for me!!!
I love Inspire

Go into the Thunderbolt threads. The speedtest app can't measure correctly for LTE. When they go to speakeasy in the web browser they're pulling about the same speeds as us.
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I had a chance to play with a buddy's phone for a few hours and the phone itself seemed slower whenever I pulled up a list, such as apps or pictures. Of course, his phone hasn't been rooted yet, so there may be some untapped potential.

Nice thing about the Inspire is the huge dev community due to Desire HD ROMs being compatible. Thunderbolt is different enough that they will most likely be starting from scratch.

ATT 4G is only HSPA+ not lte so it cant get speeds comparable

Update from the article:
"We've been told by Ookla that the Thunderbolt's massive send buffer is responsible for the erroneously high uplink speeds -- they've got a fix in the works and it'll be available as an update to the Speedtest.net app soon."
I personally don't want to pay $150 for a front-facing camera. I'll stick with my $99 Inspire.

kirk123 said:
How can this be true? The picture clearly shows the Inspire 4G in Edge but the captions for the photo say the phone was in HSPA+?
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i was thinking the exact same thing.
churro! said:
ATT 4G is only HSPA+ not lte so it cant get speeds comparable
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ATT will get LTE...............eventually. Also no one i have seen has HSPA+ yet.

When u compare h+ vs LTE ...atleast make sure u got the right settings on the phone before trying to troll the inspire.
calin75 said:
I understand your point, but at least you can see that Verizon is not capping the upload speeds of TB and giving preference to iCrap users.
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[Q]AT&T deploys LTE next week! Can the Infuse hop on?

With AT&T announcing they are stating to turn on their LTE network on the 18th this month http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/15/atandt-to-officially-deploy-its-lte-network-september-18th/, will our Infuses benefit from the higher speed?
I've read through a couple other threads on the topic, but didn't see any definitive Yes or No's. Mainly just comments on battery life issues that LTE might cause.
So, is there any new info? Are our Infuses real 4G phones or just the same 3.5G/HSPA+ as the other 'mis-labeled' 4G phones from AT&T?

I'm not holding my breath. my "4G" state doesn't include my HOUSE oddly enough. The coverage map is bull**** at it's finest.

We don't have an LTE chip. We wont benefit from LTE.
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Terrigno said:
We don't have an LTE chip. We wont benefit from LTE.
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LOL...This question is popping up all over and it just cracks me up...
There are not even any LTE phones on the market for ATT...
The article does confuse me though...they already have LTE active in a few cities, and it has been a city by city rollout....so are they going to turn on the remaining cities on the list on the 18th?
*Dallas, Houston, Chicago, Atlanta, and San Antonio..which were already scheduled...
They literally have two hotspot devices that will take advantage of this... that is all that I am aware of.
They advertise the Atrix as having LTE on their website...but does it?
I do think we will see 3 or 4 LTE devices by the end of October though.

The Infuse only has HSPA+. AT&T's website says LTE for the Jetstream and their modems and such.
There's no reason they wouldn't shout it loud and proud if it did. It doesn't have LTE.

Atrix and Inspire = category 7 device with only 16QAM = 14.4mbps capable.
Infuse = category 10 device with support for 64QAM = 21mbps.
The network has to have 64QAM turned on to achieve HSPA+ speeds over 14.4mbps.
AT&T's network doesn't have it on for some idiotic reason. It's sadly 16QAM only which downgrades peak rates on Infuse from 21mbps to 14.4mbps.
Here are some videos to prove 16QAM limit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73zZtMF95SU
And to prove 14.4mbps cap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYkeSJH5uSM
AT&T doesn't have LTE phones. Only one tablet, one air card, and one WiFi hotspot.

Those LTEless having basterds!
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As I can tell, no. This is because the hardware just can not support it. Unless If they release a special version of the phone with LTE, then it will not happen (probably).

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As I can tell, no. This is because the hardware just can not support it. Unless If they release a special version of the phone with LTE, then it will not happen (probably).
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You can not just get on the LTE network if your phone doesn't have proper radio, not 700Mhz capable, etc. It's not like an old school AM radio so you can miraculously "tune in" to AT&T's LTE lol...

There is the overly expensive apple-like-priced HTC JetStream which is LTE but it is a tablet.

No. Just no. Everything about this thread. The answer is NO and its just NO in general. NO!!

I wonder what phones they will release for the 4G LTE network. There exists NONE currently and their leaked road-map does not show any. You would think something would come out along with the network this weekend.

Terrigno said:
No. Just no. Everything about this thread. The answer is NO and its just NO in general. NO!!
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YES!
and as regards to the phones, Nexus Prime?? lol

Ok I get it now. Thanks for all the replies to clarify this for me.

If anything, the HTC holiday is going to be a lte phone, the Atrix refresh might be....
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If anything, the HTC holiday is going to be a lte phone, the Atrix refresh might be....
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Exactly. Those and the Samsung Celox (which is in a testers hands now BTW)
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milan03 said:
You can not just get on the LTE network if your phone doesn't have proper radio, not 700Mhz capable, etc. It's not like an old school AM radio so you can miraculously "tune in" to AT&T's LTE lol...
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LOL. ****ing love that image.
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For those people who would like a layman's discussion on what AT&T is supposed to be doing with LTE and will it work on your cell phone, there's a helpful article over on CNET which explains it. I'll post the link here:
http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-20107452-85/at-ts-lte-boot-up-what-it-means-to-you-q-a/
Hope this adds some clarity for those who aren't familiar with cellular technology.

I think I might cut the grass today.
Oh and the answer still is no.

I doubt AT&T LTE is this fast!

Yes, this does have to do with my Inspire, since I compared to it.
I stopped by a bunch of stores today to check out some LTE phones, their speeds, and the devices, to see how much they stand up to the hype.
On my stop at an AT&T LTE store, I came across the Samsung Galaxy SII Skyrocket. I did a speed test on the device, and came up with these crazy numbers!
I made absolutely sure wifi was off so that the numbers would not be skewed. Also, there was an LG Nitro HD right next to it, in which I ran the same speedtest, and only got about 2Mb/1Mb. Of course I repeated the test numerous times just to make sure, and each time they came out about the same. I whipped out my Inspire 4G, and got about 4Mb/2Mb.
What's going on here? The only thing I could guess was that they were provisioning all the local bandwidth to the Skyrocket in hopes of trying to sell it quicker.
What do you guys think?

Well, Let's see. The skyrocket has LTE, the Inspire does not, hence the speed difference. You do the math.

It's legit.

Joshp406 said:
Well, Let's see. The skyrocket has LTE, the Inspire does not, hence the speed difference. You do the math.
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It think it's fairly obvious that LTE is going to have a huge speed difference, but not THIS huge. I went to a Verizon store today also, and it got nowhere near those speeds. Also, why didn't the HTC Vivid and LG Nitro HDs that were on display get even close to those speeds, even though they were running on 4G LTE?

I think the real meat of this story is the fact that the OP's inspire received better Speed Test results than the new LG Nitro did. I find that interesting.
I'm with the OP in wondering if maybe they're provisioning the bandwidth for certain phones in certain markets.

I believe it's all a conspiracy. I got decent speeds on my Inspire every now and then, but I just wish the speeds were more consistent. I have a Skyrocket now and the speeds can be exceptionally nice in certain areas.
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According to the specs I looked up, on the HSPA+ networks, it should pull 21 mbps down. On LTE I can see that as possible.

Here is a link from the vivid forum for Los Angeles
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1378353
Orlando, FL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389766
New York City
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377373
Some LTE speeds on the skyrocket
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1406887
And some more speeds
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1397251
So if you search and read you would see that ATT LTE is that fast and faster.

mrhaley30705 said:
According to the specs I looked up, on the HSPA+ networks, it should pull 21 mbps down. On LTE I can see that as possible.
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If can't do at least that, I would consider it poor. I consistently average 5-6mbps on my Inspire with peaks of 8-9mbps at times.
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When I briefly had my vivid, I could constantly pull down 30mbps at my house.
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In the Chicago area I was pulling in 20-50mbs for my download and for my upload it was always above 10mbs.
I ran the test on the Skyrocket running the Melvin ROM.

I'm getting on average about 8mb down and 1 MB up using Eva miui.us dark
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I am getting 6mb down in bay area. AT&T just lit up LTE in SFO and San Jose.

Anfeldt24 said:
In the Chicago area I was pulling in 20-50mbs for my download and for my upload it was always above 10mbs.
I ran the test on the Skyrocket running the Melvin ROM.
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I get about the same. When by millennium park i average about 30-40mbs for download.

All depends on location, my inspire rarely does better than 200ms ping, 1.5mb down, 800kb up
Current location is just west of Baltimore, MD.
At my previous job in VA, I was getting consistently better speeds.

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Not trying to pass off a wifi result as a true cellular data result are you?

don't mean to be off topic(i apologize), i understand theese speeds are lightning freakn fast, but what is one to do with theese speeds, at the current rate anybody running on a 2gig plan can expect to run that out quickly, right? check in on threads about phones running lte, and there will be a thread called throttled (for unlimited data users), 22mbs is great but two weeks later some are running 100kbs, sounds tough. so what exactly is the point of the large bandwith? faster cpu, dual core n such i get, but speeds like that are meant for home entertainement/pc, gaming console/pc, work etc.

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Not trying to pass off a wifi result as a true cellular data result are you?
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No wifi symbol in status bar

I've seen up around 60mbps. I'm interested to see how it performs once traffic picks up though.

*sigh*

That moment when you have a lte phone and AT&T has no lte service in my area, but verizon does..
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Just think of all the data you will be saving...

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Just think of all the data you will be saving...
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How does it exactly save data? besides higher speeds if the usage is the same wouldnt that also be the same?
Where im at Im not sure if its 4g or hspa+ but i did a speed test and i get about 3.8mbs and only use about 500mb/month xD

Juicy555 said:
How does it exactly save data? besides higher speeds if the usage is the same wouldnt that also be the same?
Where im at Im not sure if its 4g or hspa+ but i did a speed test and i get about 3.8mbs and only use about 500mb/month xD
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3.8mbps to 20mbps or higher will get you alot more data in a shorter period of time. Of course, if your not using anything that requires speeds higher than 3.8mbps you shouldn't miss LTE anyway? Maybe you wouldn't use more data if you had higher speeds. I have LTE (part of the time) and have never gone over 1.5 Gigs in a month. But if your into streaming movies, tv, music, etc. you might find yourself eating up data a lot quicker...some do anyway.

Why would you buy this phone if you aren't in an LTE area?
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Why would you buy this phone if you aren't in an LTE area?
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Coming from a iphone 4, a lot more customization to android, way bigger screen, 2x the ram @ a faster dual core processor , and it has all the apps i used to have on my old iphone
Still 4g is better then 3g, i used to get like 1mbs on my iphone and 3.8mbs is a lot better...
The note was just too big for me..

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Why would you buy this phone if you aren't in an LTE area?
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In case of future coverage. But if in your case you live in whogivesanass, Montana, than maybe I would settle for a i777 due to the exynos processor
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I know the feeling
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M0D1441 said:
In case of future coverage. But if in your case you live in whogivesanass, Montana, than maybe I would settle for a i777 due to the exynos processor
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I live in a city with around a population of around 80k, not NYC but not whogivesanass lol. Enough for verizon to put in LTE, but not ,AT&T
I think by the time LTE hits our area from ATT I'll already have a new phone and will make new thread about not getting that new coverage with 100mbs speeds ;P

I can say from personal experience, having access to LTE at work and home, I went from using about 1-1.5 gb a month, to getting close to 5gb each month xD I find myself doing more and more on my phone as it is easy and faster than my home connection.
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Youre not missing much... LTE is a huge pipe to the carrier but most of the time it does not affect real world browsing/downloading unless the site/download resides directly on the carriers network. Even then their upload is probably capped to ensure QOS for any other users

What is LTE??? Northwest Florida/ Lower Alabama.
Wouldn't you think AT&T would have more money and resources than Verizon and could update their equipment faster and better?

xda1zero said:
Youre not missing much... LTE is a huge pipe to the carrier but most of the time it does not affect real world browsing/downloading unless the site/download resides directly on the carriers network. Even then their upload is probably capped to ensure QOS for any other users
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This is wrong. LTE is equivalent
to having broadband on your phone. Custom roms since 2.3.5 have had: uncapped upload
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What is LTE??? Northwest Florida/ Lower Alabama.
Wouldn't you think AT&T would have more money and resources than Verizon and could update their equipment faster and better?
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u can't be serious. I know you are a new user, but the search feature and Google will help u alot

icenight89 said:
This is wrong. LTE is equivalent
to having broadband on your phone. Custom roms since 2.3.5 have had: uncapped upload
u can't be serious. I know you are a new user, but the search feature and Google will help u alot
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Can't be serious? I was being sarcastic nite. Hence why I put my location. I get .5 mbps - 5 mbps depending where I'm at.
No lte here, and no plan anytime soon according to 611.
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No lte here in south Jersey. I also bought the phone for the bigger screen and faster processor.

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No lte here in south Jersey. I also bought the phone for the bigger screen and faster processor.
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SJ FTW! Lol
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My area doesn't have LTE, but that's not why I got this phone. I got it because it's fast, and I like the screen. HSPA is plenty fast IMO.
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warning if you plan on leaving tmobile

Going to sprint I's the worst move i ever made ,but TMobile forced me to. TMobile 2g is atleast three times faster than sprint 3g speeds. I sold my sensation and miss it dearly as well as the fast internet i took for granted. Just wanted to share my experience with you all if you had thoughts of going to sprint. Its unlimited plan is the only one for a reason. I been throttled by TMobile and its faster than sprint 3g . Here's some speed test i did i called customer service factory reset phone .I did this test several times before i factory reset it still the same slowness. Htc evo 4g lte is the phone i have.
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Maybe the area ur on is bad service?
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How far is your local Sprint store? If you can test out the phones there and see how fast the phones are there and then test the speed on your phone while in the store and compare if you get the same connection. If not, you can tell at that point that it's the phone and not the service. However, if the phone connects at the same speeds, then its the service.

his area is probably not covered
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I agree sprint does suck, and I made the same mistake a while back before buying my sensation. I had the Epic 4g on sprint when it first came out, their 4g and 3g was wicked fast compared to T-Mobile(at least to me in my location.) I quickly started getting tired of their service and over billing shenanigans. Long story I came back crawling to T-Mobile! and I suggest you do too. Now a word of advise. Look up the user qbking77 on these forums, he has tons of videos that might help you out(he's a sprint guy also.) Good guy btw.

Aaron from PhoneDog actually has the same issues and he's in Charlotte. He's also said that he's spoken with people in other cities all across the nation and many suffer the same issue.

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How far is your local Sprint store? If you can test out the phones there and see how fast the phones are there and then test the speed on your phone while in the store and compare if you get the same connection. If not, you can tell at that point that it's the phone and not the service. However, if the phone connects at the same speeds, then its the service.
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FYI if you are going to take this advice ake sure to turn the WiFi off on the in store device. The working display models are usually using WiFi for data. It is yet another one of those sort of underhanded sales tactics. I mean most people just see the device pulling up websitse and videos on youtube fast and say"look how fast the internet is" with out ever noticing that the WiFi is on. Especially first time smartphone costumers.

Afaik, sprint use a wimax technology and tmobile use hspa... I read somewhere that hspa is better than wimax... This is the heirarchy looks like from what i read: first is lte, second is hspa, and last is wimax... I might be wrong though... I can try to google it...
Edit: or it might just be the coverage... Ever wonder why sprint dont advertise base on their coverage ... They simply rely on their unlimited campaign ads...
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Those suck. Here are my sprint speeds on my evo 3d. These are a mix of 4g WiMAX and 3g. When lte gets rolled out here it will even out. I'm in Austin,tx and san Antonio is seeing 17-20 MPs download on lte
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I live in Rockford illinois no wimax or lte just 3g i checked my friend epic 4g my girlfriend epic touch , another friend evo shift and we all get slow speeds. Maybe it's my area but when i had TMobile i made fun of all my friend sprint network speeds so i guess this is karma. The sprint store is in the strip mall behind my house and there's a tower by my house i get full bars but its just slow. Factory resetted my phone . Played with all settings from cdma only to cdma hdr to cdma / lte same speeds i wouldn't complain but i got friends that got prepaid phones from cricket that run faster on 3g im talking about low end Android phones smh . I just wanna watch one minute YouTube videos without having to wait 10 minutes. Download games like angry birds in less than 15 minutes im not always around wifi. Don't leave TMobile if i can work something out with them i will return and get another sensation. I love the evo 4g lte alot but what's the point of having a Corvette with no engine i can go no where.
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