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AT&T 3G VS T-Mobile 3G (Funny/True story)!

I was at the mall earlier with my buddy and he wanted to go to the T-Mobile store and ask a few questions.... I ended up talking to the store owner about random Android/Cell phone bs.
He pulled out a Nexus S (Unrooted/No ROM) and was explaining how T-Mobile 3G was so amazing. So he showed me his SpeedTest app results and they were around 1.44 down and he had one test that hit 2.15 I think.
So I downloaded the Speedtest app on my AT&T Samsung Captivate (Rooted/Serendipity 2.0) and tested. I got 2.23 and my upload annihilated his (don't remember number but it was high.)
He was speechless. Lol!

Yeah.....as long as you live in one of the locations deemed worthy of 3g by at&t. Sadly their promise of 3g here by the end of the year was yet another empty one.

newter55 said:
Yeah.....as long as you live in one of the locations deemed worthy of 3g by at&t. Sadly their promise of 3g here by the end of the year was yet another empty one.
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At least you get EDGE... live in a suburb and get no signal unless I walk outside...
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I also destryoed a few peoples download speeds around here.
Most I got was a 4.4mbps and 2up

my best ever was 5.1 down but i didn't have a screen capture program installed at the time, so you know... pics or it didn't happen
anyhoo, here's the best on my current setup

fatttire said:
At least you get EDGE... live in a suburb and get no signal unless I walk outside...
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You try hitting them up for a microcell? I have heard if some getting them to give them one due to poor service.

I'm actually sick of people complaining about att speeds since everyone is talking about 4G this 4G that. I know topic says 3G but still lol...
ATT gets 4.2-5Mbps down in my area and 1.7Mbps up. No other carrier I've seen here has been close sprint vzw etc get 100KBps... tops no higher.
Look at sprint's 4G its as fast as ATT's 3G. Vzw laptops only atm. TMo who has even heard of them in my area... they r big in Texas I know but nation wide??? I give props to tmo for using gsm like att so I know their speeds got to be up to par but I look at coverage maps and say really??
But anyway that's just my 2cents I pay for 10Mbps cable and my phone beats my computers speed tests... its sad that att wireless speeds are faster then our cable provider in my area...
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maxjivi05 said:
I'm actually sick of people complaining about att speeds since everyone is talking about 4G this 4G that. I know topic says 3G but still lol...
ATT gets 4.2-5Mbps down in my area and 1.7Mbps up. No other carrier I've seen here has been close sprint vzw etc get 100KBps... tops no higher.
Look at sprint's 4G its as fast as ATT's 3G. Vzw laptops only atm. TMo who has even heard of them in my area... they r big in Texas I know but nation wide??? I give props to tmo for using gsm like att so I know their speeds got to be up to par but I look at coverage maps and say really??
But anyway that's just my 2cents I pay for 10Mbps cable and my phone beats my computers speed tests... its sad that att wireless speeds are faster then our cable provider in my area...
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Yea its funny like the evo 4g 4mbs to 6mbs typicly and max 10mbs.....when i ran perception v4 i was gettin 5Mbs to 7mbs everytime in topeka ks where i live....i work for sprint call center...and laugh when they call in and are like omfg my phones so fassst.....hahah
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dirtbagg said:
Yea its funny like the evo 4g 4mbs to 6mbs typicly and max 10mbs.....when i ran perception v4 i was gettin 5Mbs to 7mbs everytime in topeka ks where i live....i work for sprint call center...and laugh when they call in and are like omfg my phones so fassst.....hahah
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I have a sprint tab and att phone I'm going to return my tab because I only use it when tether to my att phone for internet... my friend was getting kicks with his evo going what's this 4G what's that mean... even though 4G is not in this area I go loadup speedtest.net and let it speak for itsself.. lol oh well maybe by end of this year everyone will have decent speeds
Oh yeah I work for att call center and when ppl go Verizon is getting the iPhone. Since I can't say the iPhone is crap I go well if you want to surf the internet 4-5x slower then everyone else go for it. Lol its funny crap
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sublimaze said:
my best ever was 5.1 down but i didn't have a screen capture program installed at the time, so you know... pics or it didn't happen
anyhoo, here's the best on my current setup
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what app do u use for screen capture?

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what app do u use for screen capture?
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Look for shootme in the market. It's free and pretty good. Think it requires root. Yeah around my parts, AT&T 3g reigns king in speed. In fact, the only people who don't have 3g are the tmob customers...which is funny because the tmobile employees all around here wear "america's largest 4g" shirts. HA!

alex4lex said:
Look for shootme in the market. It's free and pretty good. Think it requires root. Yeah around my parts, AT&T 3g reigns king in speed. In fact, the only people who don't have 3g are the tmob customers...which is funny because the tmobile employees all around here wear "america's largest 4g" shirts. HA!
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What a fail! LOL

1.4 - 2.8 is my norm for AT&T in NJ, that wouldn't impress me at all either

Well my speeds are not as fast as Sublimaze's but here is mine: This is with Perception 10.1
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In Saint Louis area, 3G indicated on phone, I' getting 1100K to 2300 K and 300-500K. On ATT. No whete near numbers you are reporting
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dmnall said:
Well my speeds are not as fast as Sublimaze's but here is mine: This is with Perception 10.1
Cheers,
Charlie
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Nice!!! Must be happy, haha

Is there a specific AT&T group where I can request a femtocell? I tried at the local store and with the marketing dept, and they both said no. I have 6 AT&T phones -- 4 on a family plan and 2 more on corporate contracts. There is no signal at my house -- in a low area with only 1 tower in town. I can get 3G if I drive about 1.5 miles, but cannot keep a call connected at home. Seems like I would be a perfect customer for a femtocell, but I must not be talking to the right people. Without a signal solution, I am definitely going to try another carrier.

[Q]AT&T deploys LTE next week! Can the Infuse hop on?

With AT&T announcing they are stating to turn on their LTE network on the 18th this month http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/15/atandt-to-officially-deploy-its-lte-network-september-18th/, will our Infuses benefit from the higher speed?
I've read through a couple other threads on the topic, but didn't see any definitive Yes or No's. Mainly just comments on battery life issues that LTE might cause.
So, is there any new info? Are our Infuses real 4G phones or just the same 3.5G/HSPA+ as the other 'mis-labeled' 4G phones from AT&T?

I'm not holding my breath. my "4G" state doesn't include my HOUSE oddly enough. The coverage map is bull**** at it's finest.

We don't have an LTE chip. We wont benefit from LTE.
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Terrigno said:
We don't have an LTE chip. We wont benefit from LTE.
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LOL...This question is popping up all over and it just cracks me up...
There are not even any LTE phones on the market for ATT...
The article does confuse me though...they already have LTE active in a few cities, and it has been a city by city rollout....so are they going to turn on the remaining cities on the list on the 18th?
*Dallas, Houston, Chicago, Atlanta, and San Antonio..which were already scheduled...
They literally have two hotspot devices that will take advantage of this... that is all that I am aware of.
They advertise the Atrix as having LTE on their website...but does it?
I do think we will see 3 or 4 LTE devices by the end of October though.

The Infuse only has HSPA+. AT&T's website says LTE for the Jetstream and their modems and such.
There's no reason they wouldn't shout it loud and proud if it did. It doesn't have LTE.

Atrix and Inspire = category 7 device with only 16QAM = 14.4mbps capable.
Infuse = category 10 device with support for 64QAM = 21mbps.
The network has to have 64QAM turned on to achieve HSPA+ speeds over 14.4mbps.
AT&T's network doesn't have it on for some idiotic reason. It's sadly 16QAM only which downgrades peak rates on Infuse from 21mbps to 14.4mbps.
Here are some videos to prove 16QAM limit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73zZtMF95SU
And to prove 14.4mbps cap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYkeSJH5uSM
AT&T doesn't have LTE phones. Only one tablet, one air card, and one WiFi hotspot.

Those LTEless having basterds!
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As I can tell, no. This is because the hardware just can not support it. Unless If they release a special version of the phone with LTE, then it will not happen (probably).

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As I can tell, no. This is because the hardware just can not support it. Unless If they release a special version of the phone with LTE, then it will not happen (probably).
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You can not just get on the LTE network if your phone doesn't have proper radio, not 700Mhz capable, etc. It's not like an old school AM radio so you can miraculously "tune in" to AT&T's LTE lol...

There is the overly expensive apple-like-priced HTC JetStream which is LTE but it is a tablet.

No. Just no. Everything about this thread. The answer is NO and its just NO in general. NO!!

I wonder what phones they will release for the 4G LTE network. There exists NONE currently and their leaked road-map does not show any. You would think something would come out along with the network this weekend.

Terrigno said:
No. Just no. Everything about this thread. The answer is NO and its just NO in general. NO!!
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YES!
and as regards to the phones, Nexus Prime?? lol

Ok I get it now. Thanks for all the replies to clarify this for me.

If anything, the HTC holiday is going to be a lte phone, the Atrix refresh might be....
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Artimus009 said:
If anything, the HTC holiday is going to be a lte phone, the Atrix refresh might be....
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Exactly. Those and the Samsung Celox (which is in a testers hands now BTW)
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You can not just get on the LTE network if your phone doesn't have proper radio, not 700Mhz capable, etc. It's not like an old school AM radio so you can miraculously "tune in" to AT&T's LTE lol...
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LOL. ****ing love that image.
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For those people who would like a layman's discussion on what AT&T is supposed to be doing with LTE and will it work on your cell phone, there's a helpful article over on CNET which explains it. I'll post the link here:
http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-20107452-85/at-ts-lte-boot-up-what-it-means-to-you-q-a/
Hope this adds some clarity for those who aren't familiar with cellular technology.

I think I might cut the grass today.
Oh and the answer still is no.

I doubt AT&T LTE is this fast!

Yes, this does have to do with my Inspire, since I compared to it.
I stopped by a bunch of stores today to check out some LTE phones, their speeds, and the devices, to see how much they stand up to the hype.
On my stop at an AT&T LTE store, I came across the Samsung Galaxy SII Skyrocket. I did a speed test on the device, and came up with these crazy numbers!
I made absolutely sure wifi was off so that the numbers would not be skewed. Also, there was an LG Nitro HD right next to it, in which I ran the same speedtest, and only got about 2Mb/1Mb. Of course I repeated the test numerous times just to make sure, and each time they came out about the same. I whipped out my Inspire 4G, and got about 4Mb/2Mb.
What's going on here? The only thing I could guess was that they were provisioning all the local bandwidth to the Skyrocket in hopes of trying to sell it quicker.
What do you guys think?

Well, Let's see. The skyrocket has LTE, the Inspire does not, hence the speed difference. You do the math.

It's legit.

Joshp406 said:
Well, Let's see. The skyrocket has LTE, the Inspire does not, hence the speed difference. You do the math.
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It think it's fairly obvious that LTE is going to have a huge speed difference, but not THIS huge. I went to a Verizon store today also, and it got nowhere near those speeds. Also, why didn't the HTC Vivid and LG Nitro HDs that were on display get even close to those speeds, even though they were running on 4G LTE?

I think the real meat of this story is the fact that the OP's inspire received better Speed Test results than the new LG Nitro did. I find that interesting.
I'm with the OP in wondering if maybe they're provisioning the bandwidth for certain phones in certain markets.

I believe it's all a conspiracy. I got decent speeds on my Inspire every now and then, but I just wish the speeds were more consistent. I have a Skyrocket now and the speeds can be exceptionally nice in certain areas.
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According to the specs I looked up, on the HSPA+ networks, it should pull 21 mbps down. On LTE I can see that as possible.

Here is a link from the vivid forum for Los Angeles
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1378353
Orlando, FL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389766
New York City
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377373
Some LTE speeds on the skyrocket
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1406887
And some more speeds
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1397251
So if you search and read you would see that ATT LTE is that fast and faster.

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According to the specs I looked up, on the HSPA+ networks, it should pull 21 mbps down. On LTE I can see that as possible.
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If can't do at least that, I would consider it poor. I consistently average 5-6mbps on my Inspire with peaks of 8-9mbps at times.
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When I briefly had my vivid, I could constantly pull down 30mbps at my house.
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In the Chicago area I was pulling in 20-50mbs for my download and for my upload it was always above 10mbs.
I ran the test on the Skyrocket running the Melvin ROM.

I'm getting on average about 8mb down and 1 MB up using Eva miui.us dark
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I am getting 6mb down in bay area. AT&T just lit up LTE in SFO and San Jose.

Anfeldt24 said:
In the Chicago area I was pulling in 20-50mbs for my download and for my upload it was always above 10mbs.
I ran the test on the Skyrocket running the Melvin ROM.
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I get about the same. When by millennium park i average about 30-40mbs for download.

All depends on location, my inspire rarely does better than 200ms ping, 1.5mb down, 800kb up
Current location is just west of Baltimore, MD.
At my previous job in VA, I was getting consistently better speeds.

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Not trying to pass off a wifi result as a true cellular data result are you?

don't mean to be off topic(i apologize), i understand theese speeds are lightning freakn fast, but what is one to do with theese speeds, at the current rate anybody running on a 2gig plan can expect to run that out quickly, right? check in on threads about phones running lte, and there will be a thread called throttled (for unlimited data users), 22mbs is great but two weeks later some are running 100kbs, sounds tough. so what exactly is the point of the large bandwith? faster cpu, dual core n such i get, but speeds like that are meant for home entertainement/pc, gaming console/pc, work etc.

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Not trying to pass off a wifi result as a true cellular data result are you?
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No wifi symbol in status bar

I've seen up around 60mbps. I'm interested to see how it performs once traffic picks up though.

4g

I'm with T-Mobile, the phone I have is obvious, my question is my phone bounces from 3g to H. From my understanding H stands for HSDPA which is the equivilant to 4g. The plan I'm currently on normally says I have like 2gigs of 4g then I'm back to 3g. So when the I get the H by my phone signal does it mean I'm actually on 4g? The reason I'm asking is because I wanted to get the unlimited 4g plan but it wouldn't make since if my phone already sometimes get it. Oh yea and I'm cm10 4.1.2 with whatever modem comes with it. Also does flashing diff modems give a better signal of whatever you get or could it upgrade your 3g to 4g?

Reception varies from areas and each modem is better in one area than in another, you can try them all and get a speed test and see which one is better. Also you can't measure signal. The CM based ROM or ones like it change to 3G to save battery or something, but when you use data it changes to 4G if available but this phone is mostly on 2G or Edge and 4G or H.
Hope that helps.Sorry for my bad English.

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Reception varies from areas and each modem is better in one area than in another, you can try them all and get a speed test and see which one is better. Also you can't measure signal. The CM based ROM or ones like it change to 3G to save battery or something, but when you use data it changes to 4G if available but this phone is mostly on 2G or Edge and 4G or H.
Hope that helps.Sorry for my bad English.
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So should I keep my current unlimited 3g plan which seems to get 4g anyway or should I switch to unlimited 4g? And for the speed test is it an app or website?

There is a speed test app on the play store.
I think in ICS and later, the phone idles at 3G and goes to 4G when ou need the speed.

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There is a speed test app on the play store.
I think in ICS and later, the phone idles at 3G and goes to 4G when ou need the speed.
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So in your opinion get unlimited 4g would be a waste of money?

You need to realize that T-Mobile and Att don't have real 4G. It is really just a beefed up 3G, and they called it 4G for marketing purposes. The real deal here is the new LTE, which T-Mobile will be rolling out this week. Even with LTE technology, it is not even up to the speed of true 4G.
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This good or bad?

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You need to realize that T-Mobile and Att don't have real 4G. It is really just a beefed up 3G, and they called it 4G for marketing purposes. The real deal here is the new LTE, which T-Mobile will be rolling out next year.
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Lol, the more questions get answered the more questions I have....... I pay 50 a month for 3g right and was thinking bout switching to "4g" for 70 dollars which isn't even 4g. So the modems that the devs put out on this website could potentially do what this so called "4g" does?

I wouldn't worry too much with 3G. Most of the time it would be on HSPA+. So really when you buy 4G on T-Mobile network, it is really running on hspa+, which now comes as standard. Like I said, it is a marketing scheme to take advantage of the common people.
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I wouldn't worry too much with 3G. Most of the time it would be on HSPA+. So really when you buy 4G on T-Mobile network, it is really running on hspa+, which now comes as standard. Like I said, it is a marketing scheme to take advantage of the common people.
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OK. Thanks for your help

Ignore the 3G/4G naming convention on the Ads, they mean nothing! Your phone will auto switch depending on area. For TMO, data is data & the rest is marketing gimick
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Post your 4G LTE speed tests on your S4!

Post a screen shot of your LTE speedtest and location!!! Let's see AT&T's blazing fast LTE. Will post mine one I get my S4.
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Crappy LTE speeds today... I usually get about 21Mbps +
City: Houston - Texas

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Crappy LTE speeds today... I usually get about 21Mbps +
City: Houston - Texas
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I once pulled 60mbps down on the iphone 5 and then turned LTE off and got 10mbps on H+. Very impressed with AT&T, yet I crave T-Mobile lol.

MattMJB0188 said:
I once pulled 60mbps down on the iphone 5 and then turned LTE off and got 10mbps on H+. Very impressed with AT&T, yet I crave T-Mobile lol.
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Lucky you. My country wouldn't get that kind of speed in 100 years
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MattMJB0188 said:
I once pulled 60mbps down on the iphone 5 and then turned LTE off and got 10mbps on H+. Very impressed with AT&T, yet I crave T-Mobile lol.
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Yeah, I just get chills when I get a big spike like that... I wonder if messing around with APN's will change anything?

I had crappy wifi today...but amazing lte...my wifi is usually around 10-15 anyways...heres mine
Edit: wifi is on bottom and lte is on top...still getting used to this keyboard
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a part of me wishes i had lte in my area instead of only hspa+ for those speeds. then another part of me is glad i dont because at&t's lte is known to eat more battery than hspa+.

31220 area in 478
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York, PA checking in. This is about 30% faster than my HTC One X.
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Woo Whoo!!! Best day ever! Not really but I get a new phone one day and the next day I finally get LTE in my city (Ocala, FL)
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1. Home WiFi via Comcast cable.
2-5. LTE at home (wow!)
6-7. LTE at work.

1 Home wifi with comcast.
2 AT&T Lte
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4g lte (so glad i dropped sprint).

Faluzure said:
4g lte (so glad i dropped sprint).
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Yeah Sprint is a joke. What's nice about AT&T is when you step outside an LTE area you have H+ to fall back on. I can easily pull 7-10 mbps down on HSPA+.
I'm also very fortunate to still have unlimited data on AT&T. With these blazing LTE results, I am sure some will go through their data in a day or two.
Can I ask which data plan you are on?

MattMJB0188 said:
Yeah Sprint is a joke. What's nice about AT&T is when you step outside an LTE area you have H+ to fall back on. I can easily pull 7-10 mbps down on HSPA+.
I'm also very fortunate to still have unlimited data on AT&T. With these blazing LTE results, I am sure some will go through their data in a day or two.
Can I ask which data plan you are on?
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That's hilarious. Coming from a WiMax phone, 7-10 Mbps was my max on WiMax. I know their 4G LTE will be better, but damn... they released their press release for my market back last October and there's still no movement on it 7 months later. I got tired of waiting (because they don't sell WiMax phones anymore), so I'd have to drop to their terrible 1Mbps 3G.
Well, I knew that would be a downfall (I opted for the 3 Gig plan). I could always bump up to the 5G (I think) plan for $15 more. Luckily my work & house has good broadband, so that should tide me over for the most part. If I really needed to stream something, my wife has the Unlimited Data still and I could always use hers.

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That's hilarious. Coming from a WiMax phone, 7-10 Mbps was my max on WiMax. I know their 4G LTE will be better, but damn... they released their press release for my market back last October and there's still no movement on it 7 months later. I got tired of waiting (because they don't sell WiMax phones anymore), so I'd have to drop to their terrible 1Mbps 3G.
Well, I knew that would be a downfall (I opted for the 3 Gig plan). I could always bump up to the 5G (I think) plan for $15 more. Luckily my work & house has good broadband, so that should tide me over for the most part. If I really needed to stream something, my wife has the Unlimited Data still and I could always use hers.
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GSM is the superior technology which allows for H+. As much as I have been craving T-Mobile lately, I will be sticking with AT&T. Sprint and T-Mobile are crap carriers in the process of upgrading all their existing cell sites to compete with the big boys. Until that is done, I kinda feel sorry for their smartphone subscribers.

MattMJB0188 said:
Yeah Sprint is a joke. What's nice about AT&T is when you step outside an LTE area you have H+ to fall back on. I can easily pull 7-10 mbps down on HSPA+.
I'm also very fortunate to still have unlimited data on AT&T. With these blazing LTE results, I am sure some will go through their data in a day or two.
Can I ask which data plan you are on?
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MattMJB0188 said:
GSM is the superior technology which allows for H+. As much as I have been craving T-Mobile lately, I will be sticking with AT&T. Sprint and T-Mobile are crap carriers in the process of upgrading all their existing cell sites to compete with the big boys. Until that is done, I kinda feel sorry for their smartphone subscribers.
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Yeah... I'm going to be another statistic for the next quarter: http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/24/sprint-earnings-q1-2013/ It's sad. I guess loyalty only gets you so far until you start lagging behind your competitors. I was with them for 13 years.
Very happy with my new service though. The most important thing is that I have cell signal in my home and work... basically in buildings. Sprint's coverage was so bad indoors, it would zap my battery trying to look for cell service constantly.

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53 Mbps down | 20 Mbps up
About time I start getting real LTE speeds...
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