Yes, this does have to do with my Inspire, since I compared to it.
I stopped by a bunch of stores today to check out some LTE phones, their speeds, and the devices, to see how much they stand up to the hype.
On my stop at an AT&T LTE store, I came across the Samsung Galaxy SII Skyrocket. I did a speed test on the device, and came up with these crazy numbers!
I made absolutely sure wifi was off so that the numbers would not be skewed. Also, there was an LG Nitro HD right next to it, in which I ran the same speedtest, and only got about 2Mb/1Mb. Of course I repeated the test numerous times just to make sure, and each time they came out about the same. I whipped out my Inspire 4G, and got about 4Mb/2Mb.
What's going on here? The only thing I could guess was that they were provisioning all the local bandwidth to the Skyrocket in hopes of trying to sell it quicker.
What do you guys think?
Well, Let's see. The skyrocket has LTE, the Inspire does not, hence the speed difference. You do the math.
It's legit.
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Well, Let's see. The skyrocket has LTE, the Inspire does not, hence the speed difference. You do the math.
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It think it's fairly obvious that LTE is going to have a huge speed difference, but not THIS huge. I went to a Verizon store today also, and it got nowhere near those speeds. Also, why didn't the HTC Vivid and LG Nitro HDs that were on display get even close to those speeds, even though they were running on 4G LTE?
I think the real meat of this story is the fact that the OP's inspire received better Speed Test results than the new LG Nitro did. I find that interesting.
I'm with the OP in wondering if maybe they're provisioning the bandwidth for certain phones in certain markets.
I believe it's all a conspiracy. I got decent speeds on my Inspire every now and then, but I just wish the speeds were more consistent. I have a Skyrocket now and the speeds can be exceptionally nice in certain areas.
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According to the specs I looked up, on the HSPA+ networks, it should pull 21 mbps down. On LTE I can see that as possible.
Here is a link from the vivid forum for Los Angeles
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1378353
Orlando, FL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389766
New York City
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377373
Some LTE speeds on the skyrocket
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1406887
And some more speeds
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1397251
So if you search and read you would see that ATT LTE is that fast and faster.
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According to the specs I looked up, on the HSPA+ networks, it should pull 21 mbps down. On LTE I can see that as possible.
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If can't do at least that, I would consider it poor. I consistently average 5-6mbps on my Inspire with peaks of 8-9mbps at times.
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When I briefly had my vivid, I could constantly pull down 30mbps at my house.
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In the Chicago area I was pulling in 20-50mbs for my download and for my upload it was always above 10mbs.
I ran the test on the Skyrocket running the Melvin ROM.
I'm getting on average about 8mb down and 1 MB up using Eva miui.us dark
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I am getting 6mb down in bay area. AT&T just lit up LTE in SFO and San Jose.
Anfeldt24 said:
In the Chicago area I was pulling in 20-50mbs for my download and for my upload it was always above 10mbs.
I ran the test on the Skyrocket running the Melvin ROM.
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I get about the same. When by millennium park i average about 30-40mbs for download.
All depends on location, my inspire rarely does better than 200ms ping, 1.5mb down, 800kb up
Current location is just west of Baltimore, MD.
At my previous job in VA, I was getting consistently better speeds.
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Not trying to pass off a wifi result as a true cellular data result are you?
don't mean to be off topic(i apologize), i understand theese speeds are lightning freakn fast, but what is one to do with theese speeds, at the current rate anybody running on a 2gig plan can expect to run that out quickly, right? check in on threads about phones running lte, and there will be a thread called throttled (for unlimited data users), 22mbs is great but two weeks later some are running 100kbs, sounds tough. so what exactly is the point of the large bandwith? faster cpu, dual core n such i get, but speeds like that are meant for home entertainement/pc, gaming console/pc, work etc.
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Not trying to pass off a wifi result as a true cellular data result are you?
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No wifi symbol in status bar
I've seen up around 60mbps. I'm interested to see how it performs once traffic picks up though.
Related
The test in my sig is the absolute fastest I've ever hit - share yours!!
http://www.speedtest.net/android/34757364.png
And thats about 200 miles away. I dont think i have HSDPA+ in my area yet as on the t-mobile 4g coverage map says my city is "coming soon". Still not bad speed tho.
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my result
I am getting insane uploads and pretty good downloads.
This all while driving in my truck in Orlando which is about 30mins from the server site.
Test Date: Feb 25, 2011 5:10:32 pm
Connection Type: Cell
Download: 7786 kbps
Upload: 2705 kbps
Ping: 56 ms
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http://www.speedtest.net/android/34675283.png
ashshlay said:
I am getting insane uploads and pretty good downloads.
This all while driving in my truck in Orlando which is about 30mins from the server site.
Test Date: Feb 25, 2011 5:10:32 pm
Connection Type: Cell
Download: 7786 kbps
Upload: 2705 kbps
Ping: 56 ms
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Wow those are great upload speeds!
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My Wi-Fi at my house uploads slower than on the cell network.
Otherwise I'm getting +1900k upload speeds and those were all during 5pm rush hour.
I've heard rumors of testing 42mbps around here. With download/upload like this around rush hour I've got to think something special is going on.
Ive got12000kbs during peak hours in seattle but it averages about 10000kbs
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i must be doing it wrong cause i get barely 4.5mbs down where im at and it says i get excellent 4g coverage according to TMO's map. Anybody from Houston getting similar speeds, specifically the northwest side of town (Tomball)? also, do you guys get 4g coverage consistently without the radio swapping to slower towers frequently?
hmmm...i tested the display one at a tmobile store against my vibrant and the gs4g only got around 2500kbps download speed max. My vibrant did a little better than that. like 2600 to 2800. I guess i shouldn't jump on the 4G train just yet. I'm located in miami btw. Plus i think the store is near a deadzone to top it off...ill check out another location. But 10000kbps is awesome! Thats what i'd expect from the GS4G.
Gloat while you can... my mytouch 4g was super fast til they CAPPED the area i live in.. went from a steady 7-10mbps to 3-5....
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http://www.speedtest.net/android/34662860.png
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what am i doing wrong?? i tested it from a couple different websites, but i'm not even close to breaking 1 mb/s download. tmobile's website says i have excellent 4g service in my city, and i'm pickin up 4g on my phone as the little 4g icon at the top is there.
i average around .55 mb/s download and .55mb/s upload as well. is there anything i need to do or delete/download to maximize my speed? frustrating.....
Have you used a lot of data? You could be data capped.
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what am i doing wrong?? i tested it from a couple different websites, but i'm not even close to breaking 1 mb/s download. tmobile's website says i have excellent 4g service in my city, and i'm pickin up 4g on my phone as the little 4g icon at the top is there.
i average around .55 mb/s download and .55mb/s upload as well. is there anything i need to do or delete/download to maximize my speed? frustrating.....
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Same issue for me. I'm getting 400-600kbps in the same spot I tested my Vibrant last week and was getting 2.5-3Mbs. I've called Tech support and they have no answers.
I went to the damn store I bought it at and I was getting the same speed right out their door. The most I've seen with this phone has been 6Mbps and that was downtown Orlando. If this keeps up I'm dumping the phone before my 14 day period.
How do i take screenshot or how do guys post the result pictures like that.
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You can get drocap2 from the market or you can email the results to your self
Emailing result doesnt come in the picture
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it should give you a link where you can copy it and paste it here with the
. also texting it should give you the link.
TheWord said:
i must be doing it wrong cause i get barely 4.5mbs down where im at and it says i get excellent 4g coverage according to TMO's map. Anybody from Houston getting similar speeds, specifically the northwest side of town (Tomball)? also, do you guys get 4g coverage consistently without the radio swapping to slower towers frequently?
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I’m having the same issue TheWord, I know this phone in theory is able to do 21+ MB of down and up. But the most I have gotten is about 4MB up and 3MB down… Are yall that are running crazy good speeds changing settings to make it run faster?
How about that thunderbolt? Anybody thinking about switching?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/18/htc-thunderbolt-review/
16 mb/s dowload and 45 mb/s upload
My Inspire gets 1.9 mb/s down and 320 kb/s up. \
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AT&T is full of crap!!!
Wait till more than one phone is connected to the lte network and see what happens. I priced out moving my 4 lines over to verizon a few months ago, and it would have cost me $100 more per month.
I see 2.5-3.5 down and usually around 1.3 up. I'm more than happy about that. Most I've ever seen down is about 5, best upload was over 3.
I understand your point, but at least you can see that Verizon is not capping the upload speeds of TB and giving preference to iCrap users.
How can this be true? The picture clearly shows the Inspire 4G in Edge but the captions for the photo say the phone was in HSPA+?
I'm not saying that any 4G phone on AT&T can reach those LTE speeds, but the phone can pull better speeds with HSDPA, not Edge.
the makers of that app have reported problems in reporting the correct upload speed for the thunderbolt too, so the 45 mbps is innaccurate.
besides the main reason its this fast is because of the lack of competing lte signals for the phone as it is new, and att being behind in the lte game
I think the low signal has something to do with it too. I notice sometimes when I have 1 bar, even when connected to H+ I get intolerably slow speeds. But that pic is funny, good point with the Edge and the comment haha.
dacket84 said:
I think the low signal has something to do with it too. I notice sometimes when I have 1 bar, even when connected to H+ I get intolerably slow speeds. But that pic is funny, good point with the Edge and the comment haha.
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With 5 bars and H+ connected I get about 2 - 2.5 mb/s down and 320 kb/s up. Still, that's lousy compared to Verizon's 4g.
Inspire is not running on 4G yet
Go to settings, about phone, networks and it does not show hsdpa or hspa+ is shows UMTS which is also known as 3G....
ballinbashir said:
Go to settings, about phone, networks and it does not show hsdpa or hspa+ is shows UMTS which is also known as 3G....
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I'm running LeeDroids ROM and mine shows hsdpa..... never looked at it while it was stock, though.
Speed
Hi, here in Puerto Rico My best speed was 4.6 Down 1.8 Up...
Thats good for me!!!
I love Inspire
Go into the Thunderbolt threads. The speedtest app can't measure correctly for LTE. When they go to speakeasy in the web browser they're pulling about the same speeds as us.
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I had a chance to play with a buddy's phone for a few hours and the phone itself seemed slower whenever I pulled up a list, such as apps or pictures. Of course, his phone hasn't been rooted yet, so there may be some untapped potential.
Nice thing about the Inspire is the huge dev community due to Desire HD ROMs being compatible. Thunderbolt is different enough that they will most likely be starting from scratch.
ATT 4G is only HSPA+ not lte so it cant get speeds comparable
Update from the article:
"We've been told by Ookla that the Thunderbolt's massive send buffer is responsible for the erroneously high uplink speeds -- they've got a fix in the works and it'll be available as an update to the Speedtest.net app soon."
I personally don't want to pay $150 for a front-facing camera. I'll stick with my $99 Inspire.
kirk123 said:
How can this be true? The picture clearly shows the Inspire 4G in Edge but the captions for the photo say the phone was in HSPA+?
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i was thinking the exact same thing.
churro! said:
ATT 4G is only HSPA+ not lte so it cant get speeds comparable
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ATT will get LTE...............eventually. Also no one i have seen has HSPA+ yet.
When u compare h+ vs LTE ...atleast make sure u got the right settings on the phone before trying to troll the inspire.
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I understand your point, but at least you can see that Verizon is not capping the upload speeds of TB and giving preference to iCrap users.
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My speeds are pretty good, but I don't think Philly has fauxG yet. Does anyone know what att's plans for roll out are?
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Doing pretty good here. VERY happy
i get about 7mbps occasionally. that's about the theoretical hspa speed so yeah i have the early stages of faux-g. i dont think they have the 21mbps backhaul yet just, the 14mbps backhaul. could be wrong but my att reps are saying that 4g isnt fully implimented.
I'm getting 10 mbps close to where i live. It drops down to 2-5 outside of town.
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wow
lucky yall i live in south florida and im not seeing anything close to that the best i ever got was about 5.2 up and 1.3 down with my inspire rooted and custom rils and radios with my infuse im seeing 2.5 down and 1.3 up max never hit anyting higher 1.3 has always been the max i have ever seen on upload
im getting 10mbit also.
samsungcaptivates said:
lucky yall i live in south florida and im not seeing anything close to that the best i ever got was about 5.2 up and 1.3 down with my inspire rooted and custom rils and radios with my infuse im seeing 2.5 down and 1.3 up max never hit anyting higher 1.3 has always been the max i have ever seen on upload
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You probably mean 5.2 down and 1.3 up.
I'm in the Tampa, FL area. I'm getting 5+ down and 1-2 up pretty regularly in my area. I'm happy...it's beats the crap out of my old T-Mobile BS. More importantly, the coverage is WAY better.
Yes where do you all live? Where can I get these speeds?
Does anyone know if the icon in the task bar actually reflects what type of tower you are connected to? i.e. will it say "3G" if you are connected to a non-"enhanced backhaul" tower? Mine always shows the "H+" icon, and my speeds have ranged from 1.5Mbps to 8Mbps.
Well it shouldn't. Hspa+ should be available everywhere hspa was, and that's att's entire 3g network. So anywhere you got 3g you should get hspa+. That doesn't mean the tower can supply data speeds in the range of hspa+ 7mbit to 21mbit. The speed to the tower is being called "backhaul"
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That's what I was asking - if the H+ indicated the tower was upgraded or if it just shows H+ always. I had hoped for the former but expected the latter.
the h+ is only the cell technology used between the phone and the tower, and all 3g towers are upgraded to use hspa+, but this doesnt indicate the towers connection to the network, so even if the tower can only supply 0.0000001mbit, itll still say h+. the only way to know what you can get from your area is to look at your actual speeds.
Just hit 11.47 down and 1.64 up out here in NYC. Pretty good if you ask me.
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Thanks, that answers my question. I was just hoping for an easy way to know which areas were upgraded, since I assume that even with an upgraded tower it's possible to see speeds below 7Mbps and therefore it wouldn't be cut and dried. I've only seen 7+ speeds in one spot so far (at work), I see more in the 2 to 4Mbps range so I guess a lot of my area is not upgraded.
I am very envious. We are supposed to be getting it in the next month. Of course by then we won't have the free tethering anymore.
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Wow some of you guys are really lucky...i will be lucky if I get anything higher than 3Mbps...
Infuse
zizo79 said:
Wow some of you guys are really lucky...i will be lucky if I get anything higher than 3Mbps...
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Same here man. I'm happy if I make it to 5mbps up 1 down... Hopefully backhaul gets implemented here soon...
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i am getting some truly amazing speeds right now. to get this on verizon, id have to have a phone twice as thick with a fraction of the battery life. im still convinced that att (atleast in houston) is the best network to be on.
if you look at the graph, it did blip over 14mbit before ending at 13.5
Nothing here in King of Prussia, PA (Philly suburb) to even match those speeds
Getting an abysmal 1300 kbps in download and a miserly 760 kbps in upload.
The best I've gotten is 6/2.
I'm disappointed in the "4G" to say the least.
Hopefully that changes.
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That moment when you have a lte phone and AT&T has no lte service in my area, but verizon does..
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Just think of all the data you will be saving...
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Just think of all the data you will be saving...
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How does it exactly save data? besides higher speeds if the usage is the same wouldnt that also be the same?
Where im at Im not sure if its 4g or hspa+ but i did a speed test and i get about 3.8mbs and only use about 500mb/month xD
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How does it exactly save data? besides higher speeds if the usage is the same wouldnt that also be the same?
Where im at Im not sure if its 4g or hspa+ but i did a speed test and i get about 3.8mbs and only use about 500mb/month xD
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3.8mbps to 20mbps or higher will get you alot more data in a shorter period of time. Of course, if your not using anything that requires speeds higher than 3.8mbps you shouldn't miss LTE anyway? Maybe you wouldn't use more data if you had higher speeds. I have LTE (part of the time) and have never gone over 1.5 Gigs in a month. But if your into streaming movies, tv, music, etc. you might find yourself eating up data a lot quicker...some do anyway.
Why would you buy this phone if you aren't in an LTE area?
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Why would you buy this phone if you aren't in an LTE area?
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Coming from a iphone 4, a lot more customization to android, way bigger screen, 2x the ram @ a faster dual core processor , and it has all the apps i used to have on my old iphone
Still 4g is better then 3g, i used to get like 1mbs on my iphone and 3.8mbs is a lot better...
The note was just too big for me..
BaconStep said:
Why would you buy this phone if you aren't in an LTE area?
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In case of future coverage. But if in your case you live in whogivesanass, Montana, than maybe I would settle for a i777 due to the exynos processor
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I know the feeling
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M0D1441 said:
In case of future coverage. But if in your case you live in whogivesanass, Montana, than maybe I would settle for a i777 due to the exynos processor
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I live in a city with around a population of around 80k, not NYC but not whogivesanass lol. Enough for verizon to put in LTE, but not ,AT&T
I think by the time LTE hits our area from ATT I'll already have a new phone and will make new thread about not getting that new coverage with 100mbs speeds ;P
I can say from personal experience, having access to LTE at work and home, I went from using about 1-1.5 gb a month, to getting close to 5gb each month xD I find myself doing more and more on my phone as it is easy and faster than my home connection.
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Youre not missing much... LTE is a huge pipe to the carrier but most of the time it does not affect real world browsing/downloading unless the site/download resides directly on the carriers network. Even then their upload is probably capped to ensure QOS for any other users
What is LTE??? Northwest Florida/ Lower Alabama.
Wouldn't you think AT&T would have more money and resources than Verizon and could update their equipment faster and better?
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Youre not missing much... LTE is a huge pipe to the carrier but most of the time it does not affect real world browsing/downloading unless the site/download resides directly on the carriers network. Even then their upload is probably capped to ensure QOS for any other users
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This is wrong. LTE is equivalent
to having broadband on your phone. Custom roms since 2.3.5 have had: uncapped upload
*system error* said:
What is LTE??? Northwest Florida/ Lower Alabama.
Wouldn't you think AT&T would have more money and resources than Verizon and could update their equipment faster and better?
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u can't be serious. I know you are a new user, but the search feature and Google will help u alot
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This is wrong. LTE is equivalent
to having broadband on your phone. Custom roms since 2.3.5 have had: uncapped upload
u can't be serious. I know you are a new user, but the search feature and Google will help u alot
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Can't be serious? I was being sarcastic nite. Hence why I put my location. I get .5 mbps - 5 mbps depending where I'm at.
No lte here, and no plan anytime soon according to 611.
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No lte here in south Jersey. I also bought the phone for the bigger screen and faster processor.
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No lte here in south Jersey. I also bought the phone for the bigger screen and faster processor.
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SJ FTW! Lol
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My area doesn't have LTE, but that's not why I got this phone. I got it because it's fast, and I like the screen. HSPA is plenty fast IMO.
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I'm with T-Mobile, the phone I have is obvious, my question is my phone bounces from 3g to H. From my understanding H stands for HSDPA which is the equivilant to 4g. The plan I'm currently on normally says I have like 2gigs of 4g then I'm back to 3g. So when the I get the H by my phone signal does it mean I'm actually on 4g? The reason I'm asking is because I wanted to get the unlimited 4g plan but it wouldn't make since if my phone already sometimes get it. Oh yea and I'm cm10 4.1.2 with whatever modem comes with it. Also does flashing diff modems give a better signal of whatever you get or could it upgrade your 3g to 4g?
Reception varies from areas and each modem is better in one area than in another, you can try them all and get a speed test and see which one is better. Also you can't measure signal. The CM based ROM or ones like it change to 3G to save battery or something, but when you use data it changes to 4G if available but this phone is mostly on 2G or Edge and 4G or H.
Hope that helps.Sorry for my bad English.
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Reception varies from areas and each modem is better in one area than in another, you can try them all and get a speed test and see which one is better. Also you can't measure signal. The CM based ROM or ones like it change to 3G to save battery or something, but when you use data it changes to 4G if available but this phone is mostly on 2G or Edge and 4G or H.
Hope that helps.Sorry for my bad English.
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So should I keep my current unlimited 3g plan which seems to get 4g anyway or should I switch to unlimited 4g? And for the speed test is it an app or website?
There is a speed test app on the play store.
I think in ICS and later, the phone idles at 3G and goes to 4G when ou need the speed.
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There is a speed test app on the play store.
I think in ICS and later, the phone idles at 3G and goes to 4G when ou need the speed.
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So in your opinion get unlimited 4g would be a waste of money?
You need to realize that T-Mobile and Att don't have real 4G. It is really just a beefed up 3G, and they called it 4G for marketing purposes. The real deal here is the new LTE, which T-Mobile will be rolling out this week. Even with LTE technology, it is not even up to the speed of true 4G.
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gizmoscoop said:
You need to realize that T-Mobile and Att don't have real 4G. It is really just a beefed up 3G, and they called it 4G for marketing purposes. The real deal here is the new LTE, which T-Mobile will be rolling out next year.
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Lol, the more questions get answered the more questions I have....... I pay 50 a month for 3g right and was thinking bout switching to "4g" for 70 dollars which isn't even 4g. So the modems that the devs put out on this website could potentially do what this so called "4g" does?
I wouldn't worry too much with 3G. Most of the time it would be on HSPA+. So really when you buy 4G on T-Mobile network, it is really running on hspa+, which now comes as standard. Like I said, it is a marketing scheme to take advantage of the common people.
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I wouldn't worry too much with 3G. Most of the time it would be on HSPA+. So really when you buy 4G on T-Mobile network, it is really running on hspa+, which now comes as standard. Like I said, it is a marketing scheme to take advantage of the common people.
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OK. Thanks for your help
Ignore the 3G/4G naming convention on the Ads, they mean nothing! Your phone will auto switch depending on area. For TMO, data is data & the rest is marketing gimick
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