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AT&T 3G VS T-Mobile 3G (Funny/True story)!

I was at the mall earlier with my buddy and he wanted to go to the T-Mobile store and ask a few questions.... I ended up talking to the store owner about random Android/Cell phone bs.
He pulled out a Nexus S (Unrooted/No ROM) and was explaining how T-Mobile 3G was so amazing. So he showed me his SpeedTest app results and they were around 1.44 down and he had one test that hit 2.15 I think.
So I downloaded the Speedtest app on my AT&T Samsung Captivate (Rooted/Serendipity 2.0) and tested. I got 2.23 and my upload annihilated his (don't remember number but it was high.)
He was speechless. Lol!

Yeah.....as long as you live in one of the locations deemed worthy of 3g by at&t. Sadly their promise of 3g here by the end of the year was yet another empty one.

newter55 said:
Yeah.....as long as you live in one of the locations deemed worthy of 3g by at&t. Sadly their promise of 3g here by the end of the year was yet another empty one.
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At least you get EDGE... live in a suburb and get no signal unless I walk outside...
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I also destryoed a few peoples download speeds around here.
Most I got was a 4.4mbps and 2up

my best ever was 5.1 down but i didn't have a screen capture program installed at the time, so you know... pics or it didn't happen
anyhoo, here's the best on my current setup

fatttire said:
At least you get EDGE... live in a suburb and get no signal unless I walk outside...
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You try hitting them up for a microcell? I have heard if some getting them to give them one due to poor service.

I'm actually sick of people complaining about att speeds since everyone is talking about 4G this 4G that. I know topic says 3G but still lol...
ATT gets 4.2-5Mbps down in my area and 1.7Mbps up. No other carrier I've seen here has been close sprint vzw etc get 100KBps... tops no higher.
Look at sprint's 4G its as fast as ATT's 3G. Vzw laptops only atm. TMo who has even heard of them in my area... they r big in Texas I know but nation wide??? I give props to tmo for using gsm like att so I know their speeds got to be up to par but I look at coverage maps and say really??
But anyway that's just my 2cents I pay for 10Mbps cable and my phone beats my computers speed tests... its sad that att wireless speeds are faster then our cable provider in my area...
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maxjivi05 said:
I'm actually sick of people complaining about att speeds since everyone is talking about 4G this 4G that. I know topic says 3G but still lol...
ATT gets 4.2-5Mbps down in my area and 1.7Mbps up. No other carrier I've seen here has been close sprint vzw etc get 100KBps... tops no higher.
Look at sprint's 4G its as fast as ATT's 3G. Vzw laptops only atm. TMo who has even heard of them in my area... they r big in Texas I know but nation wide??? I give props to tmo for using gsm like att so I know their speeds got to be up to par but I look at coverage maps and say really??
But anyway that's just my 2cents I pay for 10Mbps cable and my phone beats my computers speed tests... its sad that att wireless speeds are faster then our cable provider in my area...
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Yea its funny like the evo 4g 4mbs to 6mbs typicly and max 10mbs.....when i ran perception v4 i was gettin 5Mbs to 7mbs everytime in topeka ks where i live....i work for sprint call center...and laugh when they call in and are like omfg my phones so fassst.....hahah
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dirtbagg said:
Yea its funny like the evo 4g 4mbs to 6mbs typicly and max 10mbs.....when i ran perception v4 i was gettin 5Mbs to 7mbs everytime in topeka ks where i live....i work for sprint call center...and laugh when they call in and are like omfg my phones so fassst.....hahah
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I have a sprint tab and att phone I'm going to return my tab because I only use it when tether to my att phone for internet... my friend was getting kicks with his evo going what's this 4G what's that mean... even though 4G is not in this area I go loadup speedtest.net and let it speak for itsself.. lol oh well maybe by end of this year everyone will have decent speeds
Oh yeah I work for att call center and when ppl go Verizon is getting the iPhone. Since I can't say the iPhone is crap I go well if you want to surf the internet 4-5x slower then everyone else go for it. Lol its funny crap
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sublimaze said:
my best ever was 5.1 down but i didn't have a screen capture program installed at the time, so you know... pics or it didn't happen
anyhoo, here's the best on my current setup
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what app do u use for screen capture?

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what app do u use for screen capture?
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Look for shootme in the market. It's free and pretty good. Think it requires root. Yeah around my parts, AT&T 3g reigns king in speed. In fact, the only people who don't have 3g are the tmob customers...which is funny because the tmobile employees all around here wear "america's largest 4g" shirts. HA!

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Look for shootme in the market. It's free and pretty good. Think it requires root. Yeah around my parts, AT&T 3g reigns king in speed. In fact, the only people who don't have 3g are the tmob customers...which is funny because the tmobile employees all around here wear "america's largest 4g" shirts. HA!
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What a fail! LOL

1.4 - 2.8 is my norm for AT&T in NJ, that wouldn't impress me at all either

Well my speeds are not as fast as Sublimaze's but here is mine: This is with Perception 10.1
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In Saint Louis area, 3G indicated on phone, I' getting 1100K to 2300 K and 300-500K. On ATT. No whete near numbers you are reporting
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dmnall said:
Well my speeds are not as fast as Sublimaze's but here is mine: This is with Perception 10.1
Cheers,
Charlie
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Nice!!! Must be happy, haha

Is there a specific AT&T group where I can request a femtocell? I tried at the local store and with the marketing dept, and they both said no. I have 6 AT&T phones -- 4 on a family plan and 2 more on corporate contracts. There is no signal at my house -- in a low area with only 1 tower in town. I can get 3G if I drive about 1.5 miles, but cannot keep a call connected at home. Seems like I would be a perfect customer for a femtocell, but I must not be talking to the right people. Without a signal solution, I am definitely going to try another carrier.

[Help] Not sure what to do.

I posted this in the general Q&A but got no opinions. Maybe you guys can lend some unbiased help.
So I've gotten myself into a pickle. Let me start this by saying that staying on AT&T is not an option for personal reasons.
Current situation: HTC Inspire 4G with an unlimited data plan on AT&T.
Living in NY metro area with great coverage.
Got the green light from AT&T to cancel my contract with no ETF if I want.
Hopes & Dreams: Have a great phone on a future-proof network (LTE for example) while guaranteeing myself unlimited data.
Obviously I have a lot to weigh here:
AT&T's acquisition of T-Mobile.
I feel like this is pure bad news if I were to stay with AT&T or switch to T-Mobile. If I stay AT&T, prices are sure to go up, and sure I keep my unlimited data, but the network is going nowhere fast. 4G is bull****. 3.5G at best. All in all, the real innovation and envelope pushing just isn't happening here.
Verizon's LTE & Tiered Data.
From what I hear, the speeds are gorgeous. I checked and I'm in a hot coverage area. But I also hear indoor coverage sucks, and the LTE > 3G handoff is sloppy and leads to service drops.
Then there's the tiered data. I'm sure if I were to wait too long, I'll miss the boat on unlimited LTE data. Hence the reason I feel I need to make a move soon.
Sprint.
Short & sweet: Is the 4G good? Phone selection ramping up any time soon? What's hot now? The Pre 3 looks amazing, but if it'll be on Verizon, I'm not sure what Sprint may have to lure me in.
MetroPCS.
Just kidding
Anyway, any and all input is appreciated. I'm just not sure where to go and how.
Keep in mind I need to do the carrier change by May 4th.
Thanks!

Sprint 4g is about as fast as my current att phone 300kb/s to 600kb/s at best but indoor penetration well there is none
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Go with the new metro phones my friend gets 12kbps download . Blazing fast!
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Go with the new metro phones my friend gets 12kbps download . Blazing fast!
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I hope you meant mbps.
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Haha nope kb
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That is quite a predicament.
I don't know too much, but I'll see if anything I do know helps:
My friend is on Sprint 4G (with the Evo) and his speeds are about what mine are (avg ~2.1 mbps down) in the middle of Indiana, so that says something.
I'm really not a fan of Verizon. Sure their service coverage is better but customer service is just as bad as AT&T and you can't use data and voice at the same time (something I depend on)
Just my input, hope it helps.

Go with Verizon you can use data and voice at the same time at least on the Thunderbolt
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I have three friends who purchased the Thunderbolts the day they came out. Two love it, the other hated it and returned it within a week because the battery sucked and it was "buggy". The one that returned it is longtime android users so it wasn't android that was the problem. I personally think the phone is awesome, and you can get a goofy looking extended battery so if the only concern is battery life it isn't really a problem. I am in San Diego and the down and up speeds are literally in the 20mb range every time they speed test those things, makes the 3mb down on the Inspire look pretty shabby.
If I did not have 4 phones all with data plans at varying stages of renewal on my contract I would probably make the switch.
My only question is how in the heck did you get out of your contract?!?!?!

Funny that I see this. I'm more or less in a similar situation. I recently renewed from an out-of-contract state and got the Inspire, but I'm still within my return window.
First, let me say that there's no such thing as a "future-proof" network. Remember that commercial with Ozzy and Justin Bieber? It's only a matter of time before someone comes up with a 5G, then a 6G... and so on.
Furthermore, I just found out there is no industry standard for what constitutes a 'G' anyway. So it gets down to throughput, and how much of it you need for what you do. After that is price and hardware, not necessarily in that order.
I think it all depends on what you need the most. I agree that Verizon's speeds are screaming where you have good signal. But I read an analysis which said that on average AT&T's network is faster in the majority of areas. IOW, if you travel outsize a Verizon 'hot zone', their speed is on a par with, and in some cases slower than, AT&T. So where Verizon has them beat in 'hot spots', overall in daily use for those of us who travel around (or live in a more rural area), AT&T might be the better choice.
Don't kid yourself. Verizon isn't exactly looking to rock the boat pushing bleeding edge technology either. they're not inclined to invest money that they don't have to, or create more customer service issues than they already have. So that "future proof" network you're looking for won't be found at Verizon any more than you'll find it at AT&T.
I have no comment about Sprint or MPCS other than the fact that having traveled all over the country for business over the years, AT&T had the most consistent service for voice (which is my primary need) than even Verizon. Besides, it seems you already answered your own question regarding Sprint or MPCS. If you plan on venturing outside an urbanized inner-city area, you're pretty much screwed. After all... hellooooo... it's METRO pcs, not Pocono pcs.
Let me share with you what I'm inclined to do.
I love the Inspire, but when I saw the HTC Sensation is coming to Tmo, I had a moment of pause (as you did) and thought to return it and wait. But as you noted, with AT&T buying Tmo, there's a lot of 'if' on that plan to jump ship, since there's no saying when the two companies merge that I won't be forced into another phone. Or that the Sensation will get 4G speeds when the networks converge. Or that the bootloader will be cracked so I can install an unbranded ROM. Or that you will be able to use the Tmo phone on the merged network... lots of variables there.
If there's a reason why you just can't stay with AT&T and the Inspire, then I'd say Verizon is your next best choice. But given the Thunderbolt is nearly identical to the Inspire, and Verizon is more expensive for buying the phone ($175 vs. $50), it's your choice on whether the enhanced (but not always faster in all cases and in all places) data speed is worthwhile.
And of course we all need to remember that a contract is only 24 months. It goes quick. Not like it's a tattoo where you're living with it for the rest of your life.
Hope this helps...

I doubt AT&T LTE is this fast!

Yes, this does have to do with my Inspire, since I compared to it.
I stopped by a bunch of stores today to check out some LTE phones, their speeds, and the devices, to see how much they stand up to the hype.
On my stop at an AT&T LTE store, I came across the Samsung Galaxy SII Skyrocket. I did a speed test on the device, and came up with these crazy numbers!
I made absolutely sure wifi was off so that the numbers would not be skewed. Also, there was an LG Nitro HD right next to it, in which I ran the same speedtest, and only got about 2Mb/1Mb. Of course I repeated the test numerous times just to make sure, and each time they came out about the same. I whipped out my Inspire 4G, and got about 4Mb/2Mb.
What's going on here? The only thing I could guess was that they were provisioning all the local bandwidth to the Skyrocket in hopes of trying to sell it quicker.
What do you guys think?

Well, Let's see. The skyrocket has LTE, the Inspire does not, hence the speed difference. You do the math.

It's legit.

Joshp406 said:
Well, Let's see. The skyrocket has LTE, the Inspire does not, hence the speed difference. You do the math.
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It think it's fairly obvious that LTE is going to have a huge speed difference, but not THIS huge. I went to a Verizon store today also, and it got nowhere near those speeds. Also, why didn't the HTC Vivid and LG Nitro HDs that were on display get even close to those speeds, even though they were running on 4G LTE?

I think the real meat of this story is the fact that the OP's inspire received better Speed Test results than the new LG Nitro did. I find that interesting.
I'm with the OP in wondering if maybe they're provisioning the bandwidth for certain phones in certain markets.

I believe it's all a conspiracy. I got decent speeds on my Inspire every now and then, but I just wish the speeds were more consistent. I have a Skyrocket now and the speeds can be exceptionally nice in certain areas.
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According to the specs I looked up, on the HSPA+ networks, it should pull 21 mbps down. On LTE I can see that as possible.

Here is a link from the vivid forum for Los Angeles
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1378353
Orlando, FL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389766
New York City
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377373
Some LTE speeds on the skyrocket
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1406887
And some more speeds
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1397251
So if you search and read you would see that ATT LTE is that fast and faster.

mrhaley30705 said:
According to the specs I looked up, on the HSPA+ networks, it should pull 21 mbps down. On LTE I can see that as possible.
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If can't do at least that, I would consider it poor. I consistently average 5-6mbps on my Inspire with peaks of 8-9mbps at times.
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When I briefly had my vivid, I could constantly pull down 30mbps at my house.
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In the Chicago area I was pulling in 20-50mbs for my download and for my upload it was always above 10mbs.
I ran the test on the Skyrocket running the Melvin ROM.

I'm getting on average about 8mb down and 1 MB up using Eva miui.us dark
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I am getting 6mb down in bay area. AT&T just lit up LTE in SFO and San Jose.

Anfeldt24 said:
In the Chicago area I was pulling in 20-50mbs for my download and for my upload it was always above 10mbs.
I ran the test on the Skyrocket running the Melvin ROM.
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I get about the same. When by millennium park i average about 30-40mbs for download.

All depends on location, my inspire rarely does better than 200ms ping, 1.5mb down, 800kb up
Current location is just west of Baltimore, MD.
At my previous job in VA, I was getting consistently better speeds.

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Not trying to pass off a wifi result as a true cellular data result are you?

don't mean to be off topic(i apologize), i understand theese speeds are lightning freakn fast, but what is one to do with theese speeds, at the current rate anybody running on a 2gig plan can expect to run that out quickly, right? check in on threads about phones running lte, and there will be a thread called throttled (for unlimited data users), 22mbs is great but two weeks later some are running 100kbs, sounds tough. so what exactly is the point of the large bandwith? faster cpu, dual core n such i get, but speeds like that are meant for home entertainement/pc, gaming console/pc, work etc.

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Not trying to pass off a wifi result as a true cellular data result are you?
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No wifi symbol in status bar

I've seen up around 60mbps. I'm interested to see how it performs once traffic picks up though.

4g

I'm with T-Mobile, the phone I have is obvious, my question is my phone bounces from 3g to H. From my understanding H stands for HSDPA which is the equivilant to 4g. The plan I'm currently on normally says I have like 2gigs of 4g then I'm back to 3g. So when the I get the H by my phone signal does it mean I'm actually on 4g? The reason I'm asking is because I wanted to get the unlimited 4g plan but it wouldn't make since if my phone already sometimes get it. Oh yea and I'm cm10 4.1.2 with whatever modem comes with it. Also does flashing diff modems give a better signal of whatever you get or could it upgrade your 3g to 4g?

Reception varies from areas and each modem is better in one area than in another, you can try them all and get a speed test and see which one is better. Also you can't measure signal. The CM based ROM or ones like it change to 3G to save battery or something, but when you use data it changes to 4G if available but this phone is mostly on 2G or Edge and 4G or H.
Hope that helps.Sorry for my bad English.

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Reception varies from areas and each modem is better in one area than in another, you can try them all and get a speed test and see which one is better. Also you can't measure signal. The CM based ROM or ones like it change to 3G to save battery or something, but when you use data it changes to 4G if available but this phone is mostly on 2G or Edge and 4G or H.
Hope that helps.Sorry for my bad English.
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So should I keep my current unlimited 3g plan which seems to get 4g anyway or should I switch to unlimited 4g? And for the speed test is it an app or website?

There is a speed test app on the play store.
I think in ICS and later, the phone idles at 3G and goes to 4G when ou need the speed.

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There is a speed test app on the play store.
I think in ICS and later, the phone idles at 3G and goes to 4G when ou need the speed.
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So in your opinion get unlimited 4g would be a waste of money?

You need to realize that T-Mobile and Att don't have real 4G. It is really just a beefed up 3G, and they called it 4G for marketing purposes. The real deal here is the new LTE, which T-Mobile will be rolling out this week. Even with LTE technology, it is not even up to the speed of true 4G.
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This good or bad?

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You need to realize that T-Mobile and Att don't have real 4G. It is really just a beefed up 3G, and they called it 4G for marketing purposes. The real deal here is the new LTE, which T-Mobile will be rolling out next year.
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Lol, the more questions get answered the more questions I have....... I pay 50 a month for 3g right and was thinking bout switching to "4g" for 70 dollars which isn't even 4g. So the modems that the devs put out on this website could potentially do what this so called "4g" does?

I wouldn't worry too much with 3G. Most of the time it would be on HSPA+. So really when you buy 4G on T-Mobile network, it is really running on hspa+, which now comes as standard. Like I said, it is a marketing scheme to take advantage of the common people.
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I wouldn't worry too much with 3G. Most of the time it would be on HSPA+. So really when you buy 4G on T-Mobile network, it is really running on hspa+, which now comes as standard. Like I said, it is a marketing scheme to take advantage of the common people.
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OK. Thanks for your help

Ignore the 3G/4G naming convention on the Ads, they mean nothing! Your phone will auto switch depending on area. For TMO, data is data & the rest is marketing gimick
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Speedtest

Man, look at some of these speeds I get when getting a good signal on mobile data.
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My speeds suck, any tips?

I'm more than happy with this speed inside my home.
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There should be a thread of the horrible speeds 90 percent of us get.
this the best i can get at home if i go down the block i get 40mbps download speeds. I'm half bars lte in the house

bonebeatz1234 said:
There should be a thread of the horrible speeds 90 percent of us get.
this the best i can get at home if i go down the block i get 40mbps download speeds. I'm half bars lte in the house
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Damn, that has got to suck being that slow!! I have Internet in my house that usually always gets over 120Mbps mainly because my server needs really high speeds to keep up with the demand..

I would of left sprint along time Ago if i didn't have internet at home.
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Almost there! Fast mobile data in the nation i tell ya!
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Where it is actually at T-Mobile is very fast as well. But similar to sprint you could go a few blocks away and be roaming. Or at least wishing you were.

So I guess the conclusion is: Sprint surprises some, disappoints most.

I ****ing hate when my phone shows me good LTE service yet it STILL doesn't load anything..... I mean the service is WORLDS better than it was when I signed up in 2006 but it really pisses me off sometimes.

killerz298 said:
I ****ing hate when my phone shows me good LTE service yet it STILL doesn't load anything..... I mean the service is WORLDS better than it was when I signed up in 2006 but it really pisses me off sometimes.
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You know we are all on sprint because the unlimited data plans are the cheapest in town.
I travel fulltime and I can say its nice when you are in NYC and can pull 80mb down. Not so nice when you are driving across South Dakota or New Mexico and all you have is roaming.
Overall the best coverage I've seen across the contiguous USA is on the GSM network (ATT) and the best data bandwidth has been LTE over CDMA with Verizon having the most consistent coverage.
The technology is changing faster than anyone can keep up with it though. If your bandwidth sucks now just wait a year. It might not be the fastest but it should get better.
-Sean

Wilmingtech said:
You know we are all on sprint because the unlimited data plans are the cheapest in town.
I travel fulltime and I can say its nice when you are in NYC and can pull 80mb down. Not so nice when you are driving across South Dakota or New Mexico and all you have is roaming.
Overall the best coverage I've seen across the contiguous USA is on the GSM network (ATT) and the best data bandwidth has been LTE over CDMA with Verizon having the most consistent coverage.
The technology is changing faster than anyone can keep up with it though. If your bandwidth sucks now just wait a year. It might not be the fastest but it should get better.
-Sean
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Luckily I am on Long Island so I get pretty decent coverage most places but sometimes it is spotty. Like someone else said, standing over here it is great but go across the street and it is non-existent. Sprint really shot itself in the foot when it went Wimax instead of LTE. They backed the wrong horse and they are only just starting to get back on track. For what I pay, and the coverage and speeds I usually get around here, I have lived with it. However, those times when it doesn't work even on Long Island, REALLY pisses me off. When I'm up on a trip in Vermont somewhere forget it. Everyone else has data coverage (at least functional) and I got nothing but that is the price I pay. I usually just turn off the cell radio as it drains the **** out of my battery.

Man sprint is stepping up finally.
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Man sprint is stepping up finally.
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I hope they step it up down here next

Here's another one