Hi All, has anyone had any success in getting android devices such as the MK808B to work with external GPS devices such as the Prolific PL2303? Desperately trying to find a way to support it so that I may use one to make a car PC. So if anyone can help / advise me how to install drivers and get it recognised in copilot I would be extremely grateful. Thanks
Dave
hotrodder said:
Hi All, has anyone had any success in getting android devices such as the MK808B to work with external GPS devices such as the Prolific PL2303? Desperately trying to find a way to support it so that I may use one to make a car PC. So if anyone can help / advise me how to install drivers and get it recognised in copilot I would be extremely grateful. Thanks
Dave
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Why not use a bluetooth GPS? £8 on ebay.
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Why not use a bluetooth GPS? £8 on ebay.
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I did try this using my android phone and a few apps that share your phone GPS as a bluetooth GPS but couldnt get it recognized by copilot. Id definately be open to this if i can get it recognized in there. Currently im using an archos 80 G9 tablet as my car PC, but want to switch to this mini pc for better performance and a better mounting option for in the dash - so my aim is to get GPS and a HDMI / USB touchscreen (such as an egalax screen) working. Then its a go. Ill then probably turn my hand to application development (my day to day job) to come up with the best option user interface wise and will happily share all the information and software i develop with the community.
MK808B + CoPilot (GlobalSat BT-359)
I am able to use MK808B + CoPilot (GlobalSat BT-359) with the help of a mock GPS provider app (Blutooth GPS). GoogleMaps \ Sygic are both working perfect.
I am also looking for a HDMI/USB touch screen for it, any update on this?
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I did try this using my android phone and a few apps that share your phone GPS as a bluetooth GPS but couldnt get it recognized by copilot. Id definately be open to this if i can get it recognized in there. Currently im using an archos 80 G9 tablet as my car PC, but want to switch to this mini pc for better performance and a better mounting option for in the dash - so my aim is to get GPS and a HDMI / USB touchscreen (such as an egalax screen) working. Then its a go. Ill then probably turn my hand to application development (my day to day job) to come up with the best option user interface wise and will happily share all the information and software i develop with the community.
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I plan to get one of these once the GPS side of things is working, so ill crack on and try what you suggest. Thanks
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110659968637?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Ok, got a copilot branded BT GPS device, and its recognised and seems to be working with some apps - but not the one i want the most, copilot. It just states its unable to register for GPS updates, which sucks!
hotrodder said:
Ok, got a copilot branded BT GPS device, and its recognised and seems to be working with some apps - but not the one i want the most, copilot. It just states its unable to register for GPS updates, which sucks!
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I have one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Dual-Electron...p/B006M49G80/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=136138107
I use it w/out issue w/Google Maps, so I'll drop co-pilot on and see how it works out.
The rest of my CarPC setup:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=806078
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I have one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Dual-Electron...p/B006M49G80/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=136138107
I use it w/out issue w/Google Maps, so I'll drop co-pilot on and see how it works out.
The rest of my CarPC setup:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=806078
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I contacted the makers of Co-pilot and they said they dont support external GPS receivers. I have both the bluetooth and USB receivers but I think for co-pilot to support them I'd need to get to be recognised as the inbuilt GPS receiver. Co-pilot tells me its unable to register for GPS requests - but other apps _seem_ to work, but currently all my testing is done on a PC monitor, so its hard to hit the road and see if its actually working. I currently have an archos G9 80 built into my Jag XK8 and im so pleased with the functionality - but not so much with the GPS support (can be hit and miss) and with the mounting. Prior to that i had a windows PC, but that was much worse of an installation.
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Don't know if anyone else here has tried this workaround at all?
Using the remove programs in settings or activesync, remove Tomtom Bluetooth GPS Support (or whatever it's called).
Instead of setting up TT5 to use "Other Bluetooth GPS", set it up to use "Other Cable NMEA GPS".
Set the GPS Baud rate to 9600 or 19200 (both work fine for me).
Then set the COM port to "Bluetooth Serial Port COM6:" (or whatever your outgoing port number is for your BT GPS device.
The only downside is that you have to turn BT on manually before you start TT5 but it doesn't disconnect BT when it exits.
Used this setting on 3 different roads which lately caused me no end of lock-ups and not once has it happened. I think the problem is with Tomtoms bluetooth support drivers, constant problems with them since TT3.
I've only used this for 3 days and 400 miles but everything seems to be fine up to now, including traffic...........we'll see.
TT5
Did your TT5 load onto the XDA with no problems?
I have an XDA IIi and it loaded on no problems at all.
I have an XDA IIi and it loaded on no problems at all.
Great suggestion. I was getting really fed-up with TT5 and about to give up on it. Just back from France/Switzerland where it kept freezing, useless.
Simply uninstalled the TT GPS Support as suggested and used the existing BT Partnership with the TT Receiver and hey presto ... TT running smoothly again, shame I'm back in the UK on roads I know!
Does not work for me. But well worth a try.
This is doing my head in now £200 worth of TomTom software and dongle and unusable with the phone on!
arh help please
I have a problem with my XDA11 whilst trying to upgrade my navigator 3 software to navigator 5......
After I load the main program upgrade and then try to install the map disc one my pc ( desk top XP Profesional os ) it come up with tempory folder full, does'nt say if it it the pc or the xda11.
I have gone into all the temp folders on the pc and emptied them and it had not resolved the problem and I cant find any in the search function on the XDA
Any ideas??
Its a genuine copy of the Tom Tom software as well and there are no contact details on there sites including e-mail links
Regards Lee
there are known issues with Bluetooth device support using TomTom5, i was advised to use the 'Other Cable NMEA GPS' option when connecting a non TomTom bluetooth GPS unit.
also, i connected at the baud rate recommended by the manufacturer which i think was 9600, this worked fine without removing any parts of the software but meant manual switch off of Bluetooth in my MDA after use.
in addition to this, the Bluetooth connection issues with non TomTom GPS units should be resolved in the 5.10 upgrade, just installed it and re-paired an MDA3 to the Globalsat GPS receiver...it now auto switches off Bluetooth after use and the connection can be made using 'Other Bluetooth Receiver'.
another bonus of the 5.10 update is the keyboard shows on the display without having to use the hardware keyboard on the MDA...lovely.
for more info:
How to manually configure TomTom NAVIGATOR 5 for Bluetooth GPS receivers.
answer to last question about free memory during install problem can be found here:
When I install the TomTom NAVIGATOR 5 Upgrade the following error occurs: - Not enough free space occurs on temporary folder. Cannot run Setup
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Thanks for the link dont know how I missed that....
Only problem now is when I tap Start etc there is no Run command to enter the %......% command line
I tried the search in explorer option with no results any ideas?
Sorry I'm not the brightest lamp on the planet
you are tapping Start on your PC right?
maybe the 'Run' command has been disabled or does not appear in your Start menu because it's been disabled.
are you the Administrator of your PC? are you running XP?
you may have to go into 'Control Panel', 'Taskbar and Start Menu', Start Menu tab and choose 'Classic Start menu'
trying to cover as many bases here so you can make some headway without too much back an forth as i'm signing off now....if you can get to the 'Run' command on your PC then you'll be able to solve the problem and proceed with the fix from the TomTom site.
good luck.
I have had so much trouble with satnav on pda's, especially with bluetooth that although I have xda 1 with wired gps and spv M1000 with bluetooth gps I have just boght a Mitac Mio 269 dedicated gps system. It has a 2.5 gb hard drive, 500 megs for mp3, the whole of europe, which is millions of miles, preinstalled on the system. Comes with remote and different mounts and has sd card expansion. Obviously it isnt any good for phone calls or word processing etc but it gives me peace of mind when travelling as I have zero sense of direction and very little patience. I still leave my other gps in the car though, as a backup. :shock:
I have had so much triouble with satnav on pda's, especially with bluetooth that although I have xda 1 with wired gps and spv M1000 with bluetooth gps I have just boght a Mitac Mio 269 dedicated gps system. It has a 2.5 gb hard drive, 500 megs for mp3, the whole of europe, which is millions of miles, preinstalled on the system. Comes with remote and different mounts and has sd card expansion. Obviously it isnt any good for phone calls or word processing etc but it gives me peace of mind when travelling as I have zero sense of direction and very little patience. I still leave my other gps in the car though, as a backup. :shock:
Thanks
Decoy-7
Many thanks I told you I wasn't to bright you hit the nail on the head with the ( PC comment ) I was looking for the run command on the XDA11...
deleted the exe and evrything is loading up as we speak....
thanks again for your patientence....
Crusin-thru' I can see why you have gone your route its a lot less trouble I just use mine now as a back up phone because I spend a lot of time away from home and just simply use a Nokia 6680 on 3G.....
Also since I stopped using the XDA11 as a phone the pda doesn't keep resetting itself every ten minutes like it did!!
cash_13,
it happens to the best of us...had to think about it myself, instructions on the TomTom site could have been more specific saving many people a lot of time...but you dont always realise this until you have to follow the instructions yourself....glad you got it sorted now.
ok so i bought an att fuse and like everyone here mentioned about hang ups, weak signal, etc i thought i would just use my old external bluetooth gps unit.
so breifly here is the problem, it works fine when i use a single application like google maps. but when i try to put the information in the external gps app (start>settings>external gps) i have my problem.
under the hardware section, it states:
Specify the hardware port to which your GPS device is connected.
i do so click ok and nothing.. so i go back in to see whats wrong and the gps hardware port resets its self to "none". its as if the settings never save or reset them selves. i know on my old phone (tytn) this would be somthing i considered unusual (so i am kinda familar with the mobile) os.
i am not sure if there is somthing wrong with my handheld or if at&t has some kind of block?
anyway i tried to use the forum search and really didnt turn up any information so any help would be great i really like this phone.
thanks in advance to anyone that can help.
I've never had those settings stick on any of my WinMo phones.
You don't need to use that to use a BT GPS puck anyway, you set the COM port in the Bluetooth settings.
It won't let you make a selection from that drop-down because the GPS hardware does not function by exposing a COM port as with standard hardware, it exposes a GPS0: port, that is picked up by the GPS ID, and exposed to the system as COM4:..
Now because the GPSID has been replaced by HTC's version of it, it's designed to work only with their internal GPS. If you want support for an external GPS in the GPS ID, you need to cook the stock Windows Mobile driver back into the ROM..
That being said, you don't need the GPSID unless you plan to have multiple programs connecting to the GPS at once, so you should be able to squeek by..
thanks guys i knew i would get a respoce here. unfortunatly i was hoping for a easy solution to use external gps with multiple apps i see unfortunatly its not possible without alot of work.
at any rate i am still very hapy with the device i was debating on upgrading from the tytn amd so glad i did =)
Is there a software available that will allow me to connect my Android Device to my laptop as a GPS unit???
This would be SWEET!
Simply USB tether the N1, MT3G or G1 to your PC, run the program and viola!! - GPS on your PC...
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Is there a software available that will allow me to connect my Android Device to my laptop as a GPS unit???
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Forgive me, but I don't see how this would be useful?!
I remember years ago I once bought Microsoft Streets & Trips with the bundled GPS unit that did what you are asking. But why would you want to carry around a laptop that's tethered to your Android device with GPS?!
-OR-
Are you talking about being able to SEE the maps/navigation ON your computer screen?!
maybe they have a laptop mount on the dash like cops do.. big ass navigation
Rather than purchase an external GPS unit to tether to a netbook... use the android device as one...
I already use the my MT3G as a mobile broadband device when on the road... This would just make it that much more useful.
Hi,
Since a few days im a proud owner of a HTC desire.
On this device i am trying to connect my bluetooth OBD2 car diagnose device.
Unfortunatly i cannot get it working.
What i did was search for the device in bluetooth settings, pair it with the phone (The bluetooth device says paired, but disconnected), and change the settings in the obd2 app to make sure it uses the device ( i tried torque and obd2 reader). This will result in the following bluetooth error :
1270932653682 **** OBD Comms thread starting ****
1270932653682 **** Connecting to OBD via bluetooth ****
1270932653686 **** Connecting to OBD via bluetooth (1) ****
1270932654262 *** EXCEPTION:Service discovery failed ***
Service discovery failed android.bluetooth.BluetoothSocket$SdpHelper.doSdp(BluetoothSocket.java:377)_ android.bluetooth.BluetoothSocket.connect(BluetoothSocket.java:201)_ org.prowl.torquefree.comms.OBD$CommsThread.run(OBD.java:305)_
The previous phone i had was a touch pro 2 running Windows mobile. I managed to use the diagnose device on this phone for a while without any issues.
What i am thinking is that i maybe miss out on a step on the android phone to get it working. This is because on my windows mobile phone i had to setup a serial port first. Could this be different in android, or am i doing something wrong?
Any help is welcome!
Anyone with ideas ?
Thanks alot!
do you need the software on the phone to run the obd2 connector? do they have that software available or is it just for data logging? the connection is there but there is no software calling for the data connection.
good luck. hopefully. the manufacturer developes or ports their software to Android
Yes you need to software to communicate with the obd2 bluetooth connector. You pair it with the phone, and then need to software to get the info.
There are currently 2 apps available, but they both fail to work. I thought it could maybe be a bug in android, but i can't seem to find any info about it.
I also expected i could have made a mistake while pairing the device to the phone, since i am only using android for a few weeks
it should be working, the only thing is that further down the debug the bluetooth stack blows up inside a native method
>>>> 1270932756398 *** EXCEPTION:Unknown error: 0 ***
>>>> Unknown error: 0 >>>> android.bluetooth.BluetoothSocket.initSocketNative(Native Method)_ >>>> android.bluetooth.BluetoothSocket.<init>(BluetoothSocket.java:142)_ android.bluetooth.BluetoothDevice.createRfcommSocketToServiceRecord(BluetoothDevice.java:715)_ g.prowl.torquefree.comms.OBD$CommsThread.run(OBD.java:303)_
I'm itching to see what the UUIDs your bluetooth device advertises
Hey ! we have spoken through email
Im trying to see how i can get the UUID of the device. I tried it with my ubuntu laptop, but couldnt find it yet.
Im using the same bluetooth device as listed on the torque website, the one with the blue sticker on the side
I have bonded the adapter with my laptop. Then setup Serial port.
I did not manage to get the UUID yet, is the info below helpfull?
[email protected]:~$ sdptool search SP
Inquiring ...
Searching for SP on 00:0D:18:B0:04:78 ...
Service Name: Dev B
Service RecHandle: 0x10002
Service Class ID List:
"Serial Port" (0x1101)
Protocol Descriptor List:
"L2CAP" (0x0100)
"RFCOMM" (0x0003)
Channel: 1
Language Base Attr List:
code_ISO639: 0x656e
encoding: 0x6a
base_offset: 0x100
Yes we did talk on email, thats how I found the thread here
Yep thats fine on the bluetooth info, this is looking like a bug in androids handling of bluetooth, and it's a weird one at that.
Is your firmware a completley stock ROM for the phone? You haven't put a modified ROM onto it?
Well good to hear you at least know what is wrong.
My rom is a stock rom. This is the info from settings, software information :
Firmwareversion :
2.1-update1
Smallbandversion :
32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11
Kernelversion :
2.6.29-97da29ed
[email protected] # 1
Build number :
1.14.405.4 CL144070 release keys
Software number :
1.15.405.4
Browserversion :
WebKit 3.1
The phone's model number is HTC Desire A8181
Do you know what the bug consists of?
Thanks again !
Sorry, I haven't replied earlier, been busy for a few days.
It's looking very much like a bluetooth stack issue on the HTC Desire. Googling a reveals a couple more grumblings with the desires bluetooth stack but nothing concrete. Unfortunately I haven't got one of the devices directly to play with to verify my assumption, so fixing it is probably not going to happen (if I am able to work around the bug at all!).
Unfortunately I'll have to say you're out of luck /for the moment/, if one of my friends aquires one (or I can reproduce it on my Nexus one if/whenever Google/Brightpoint decide to deliver it!) then I will try to reproduce the fault and to get it to work for you (from my point of view I want this to work with as many devices/vehicles as possible!!)
Ian
Is there anything i can help you with? as i also really like to use this app.
If you provide me with things to check, gather or investigate i would be happy to do so!
Hi to all
I have the same bluetooth OBD2 car diagnose device.
I am trying to pair it with wm 6.5 HTC HD but it ask always for secure password for bluetooth.
Does anybody know whitch is the passcode?
Thanks
blueeyedme said:
Hi,
Since a few days im a proud owner of a HTC desire.
On this device i am trying to connect my bluetooth OBD2 car diagnose device.
Unfortunatly i cannot get it working.
What i did was search for the device in bluetooth settings, pair it with the phone (The bluetooth device says paired, but disconnected), and change the settings in the obd2 app to make sure it uses the device ( i tried torque and obd2 reader). This will result in the following bluetooth error :
1270932653682 **** OBD Comms thread starting ****
1270932653682 **** Connecting to OBD via bluetooth ****
1270932653686 **** Connecting to OBD via bluetooth (1) ****
1270932654262 *** EXCEPTION:Service discovery failed ***
Service discovery failed android.bluetooth.BluetoothSocket$SdpHelper.doSdp(BluetoothSocket.java:377)_ android.bluetooth.BluetoothSocket.connect(BluetoothSocket.java:201)_ org.prowl.torquefree.comms.OBD$CommsThread.run(OBD.java:305)_
The previous phone i had was a touch pro 2 running Windows mobile. I managed to use the diagnose device on this phone for a while without any issues.
What i am thinking is that i maybe miss out on a step on the android phone to get it working. This is because on my windows mobile phone i had to setup a serial port first. Could this be different in android, or am i doing something wrong?
Any help is welcome!
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evagelos said:
Hi to all
I have the same bluetooth OBD2 car diagnose device.
I am trying to pair it with wm 6.5 HTC HD but it ask always for secure password for bluetooth.
Does anybody know whitch is the passcode?
Thanks
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the passcode is 1234
I have the same problem - same obd2 elm bt reader - with samsung moment (with unreleased 2.1) - the phone and CBT pair but torque keeps oin saying adapter not found .. retrying etc ...
Hi
Just to let you know I managed to sort a workaround out for torque with regards to the bluetooth problems and it is now connecting fine
dandruff1 said:
the passcode is 1234
I have the same problem - same obd2 elm bt reader - with samsung moment (with unreleased 2.1) - the phone and CBT pair but torque keeps oin saying adapter not found .. retrying etc ...
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The code was 1,2,3,4
I've been a android user since Sept '09 (G1/Dream) and now I recently got my X10.
I've had a Nokia 770,800, and now N810. I used a application called 'Carman' which would read a OBD2 Bluetooth unit which was connected in my car. I would simply plug it into the port under my steering wheel and it would show up easily on my Nokia. The software worked great.
There is code available, and the website for carman is: http://openbossa.indt.org/carman/
The bluetooth unit I got was this one: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.16921 (although mine is orange, got mine back in Dec '08)
It would be great to see this being ported over to Android. Hopefully this is helpful!
how many cm is the Height of this bt?
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how many cm is the Height of this bt?
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Hmm not including the connector its about 2.5cm
Hello!
Are there any known issues with Android and bt devices? I can't seem to get my desire and a bt obd reader to pair, the phone doesn't even see it.
piemmmm said:
Hi
Just to let you know I managed to sort a workaround out for torque with regards to the bluetooth problems and it is now connecting fine
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what did you do to get it working?
drdino said:
Hello!
Are there any known issues with Android and bt devices? I can't seem to get my desire and a bt obd reader to pair, the phone doesn't even see it.
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yeah i've been searching for awhile and apparently HTC broke the stock bluetooth stack with some kind of proprietary settings that makes most advanced functions not work (HID, SPP, etc) it appears if you use a rom thats not sense based (like cyanogenmod) then the profiles work
Hello Everybody,
maybe you Gals and Guys can help me out.
I'd like to make use of TMC within my Sygic Mobile Maps.
The Idea is to use the internal FM Chip or a "FM9BT-C", made by GNS GmbH with "usually TMC-able" navigation software. (Nice side affect: FM9BT-C also brings a 5V, 1A USB Charger).
I've got a FM9BT-C laying around.
As I make use of Sygic mobile maps for Android, I know from the .ini files, that TMC is just deactivated after stock installation of Sygic.
Within the folder: "\sdcard\Drive\Android\" you can find the .ini files too.
But for now, I'm a little stuck.
The internal FM Chip seems not to be accessible.
And I can't even connect FM9BT-C to DHD.
Pairing works fine, but the my phone shows: "Paired but not connected".
I also can't connect both devices.
The TMC Device needs to be set up with a COM Port.
But atm I don't even get so far.
So guys, whats your advice?
Any Devs around, that can help out?
Is Android not TMC capable at all?
I've got Android 2.3.1 up and running on my DHD.
Kind regards,
McK