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Tom tom totally unusable after Rom upgrade

Had to send my early XDA11 back to O2 for repair and it came back empty and they upgraded the ROM(?) Re-installed Tom tom loads so slowly its unusable. Memory map navigator loads ok but takes 5 seconds to react to a screentap. Also, it can bond with Holux bluetooth GPS but cant see it in Tom tom wizard. It all worked fine before they got their hands on it.

This sounds to me like you have the wrong com port chosen for your gps. Remove bonds for any bluetooth, reset, then rebond the gps, it should ask if you wish to use the serial profile for the device, answer yes to this. I think gps should then be on com5.

Thanks for your help
Thanks for that. When I get to select serial profile I only get Com 7 offered. Com7 is not offered in Tom tom GPS setup. Previously I had "Holux on Com4" as a choice. I have no Bluetooth manager program as on the Ipaq but I have loaded BTHTools1100 from April04. Can I check Com port status somehow? Maybe old stuff is assigned to the serial port I need?

We have lift-off!
Unticked Com 4 as incoming Bluetooth port in Bluetooth settings. Now have "Hollux 230 on Com 7" as an option in tom tom GPS setup.

KeithR: IF your on ROM version 1.72 now, you better skip the BTH Tools.
Un-install them or do a hard-reset (yes, once more).
Just bond the GPS, select YES to create a com port.
The GPS will then communicate thru COM5
Assign COM5 in TomTom (and one of the NMEA protocols).
It will work then as expected.
BUT: Since you have a Holux GPS you miight encounbter the same slowness when starting TomTom and the GPS is not 'connected'(ie off or out-of-reach). This is an issue specifically for the combination Himalaya (or MS BT Stackin the ROM) and (some?) Holux and D-Connex BT GPS's.
It seems that this last issue is solved in WM2003 SE, but that seems less stable to me . . .

Thanks all
Now its running ok I'm going to leave it alone. (I doubt.) I'm tempted to get an XDAIIs to use with broadband and VPN at home but the MDAIII seems much cheaper. Thanks again, I'll check this site for info on it.

How to connect tomtom and bluetooth gps

Hi there, I have an XDA2 and a bluetooth gps reciever I bought off ebay.
I loaded tomtom software but do not know how to connect the gps to the tomtom software.
Please help step by step.
Cheers!

Please,,,, I really dont get it.
I have bonded them but then i go into tomtom and tell it I have a bluetooth reciever and it comes up with loads of things saying like com4, com5 etc...

Heya
First step is to pair the GPS and Phone. This is done in the usual way. Once you have set this up once you will only need to "start the device" in Bluetooth manager.
Second. Go into Tom Tom, which if its anything like mine, will take maybe 20seconds to start and appear to of done nothing.
Change Preferences->
Show GPS Device->
(assuming its not showing) Configure->
Select "Bluetooth GPS" by scrolling through the options
You will then be asked to select your "Bluetooth Serial Port...." This is where you will need to play a bit and get the right one. I only have two listed so it only took me a few minutes but, be patient with it .... it may take a minute or two to start pulling in data.
Hope this helps and good luck!

I also run TT5 and a Bluetooth GPS (GlobalSat BT388) and I can never get the damn things to sconnect using the Bluetooth setting.
This is the way I sorted it:
1) use Bluetooth Manager to 'discover' your BT device (the GPS)
2) Pair your Device in Bluetooth Manager.
3) Start TomTom (ideally updated to 5.1 or 5.21), select Prefs...GPS Device...Configure and select "Other Serial" and NOT Bluetooth.
4) now select the Bluetooth port (try com6 first, then com5 if offered, you should be able to spot the GPS in the list) I find 3800 baud speed works perfectly for me.
You know you've struck gold when the little wheel starts spinning (it helps to have got a lock with the GPS as this is set up) so if no joy after 15 seconds, select configure again & have another try with a different "Other Serial" port (there should be TWO BT serial ports in the list)
once this is set and it's receiving GPS info, click done and go back to the main Nav screen
Rest awhile & bask in the glory of now knowing yr position 8)
Finally, Exit the program in the normal way, give the PDA a couple of seconds, then start it up again, after it loads it WILL say "No GPS Device!" - DONT PANIC...after a short delay (10-30 seconds depending on the speed of yr device) it should automatically connect to the GPS)
Hope this helps - Joe
P.S. I have to turn my Bluetooth ON before starting TT5, as it doesnt seem to do this automatically like with my old FSC600, but I believe there are BT programs out there that can automatically do that, but seems a lot of extra stuff for what is, after all, two stylus taps from the Today screen! - JP

if you updat eto the lastest version then you can use other bluetooth if not id use other wired also if an xda2 and not an i then have a look at pocket bluetooth tool this will change the comport to com 7 if memory serves correct

Still wont connect, am clicking on all the comms......

Bluetooth GPS works once before failing

I have just got a Wizard off ebay running WM6 which has TomTom6 installed. I have a generic bluetooth GPS receiver which works fine the first time I use it after pairing, but then as soon as the device is turned off via the softoff switch, it is not seen again. I have to remove the Bluetooth connection and port, then re-add it all. Once I repeat the process, it works find again until the next time it is turned off.
I have tried this with 2 different bluetooth gps units, both of which work fine for my friends so I suspect it is something wrong with either the Wizard or a setting somewhere.
I am new to all this so dont know what information I should post to help get advice but can provide any info you guys need.
Can anyone offer me and suggestions or pointers ?

after wake up, launch tomtom, but leave it for say 20 secs it should eventually pick it up, it just takes time

Hello,
I have the same problem.
GPS pairing + COM config OK.
Then I start TOMTOM 6 and all is working fine.
Now if I switch off my GPS, and leave Tomtom, then switch on my GPS and start TOMTOM, I have a message telling me my GPS wants to connect to my wizard. So I must redo the pairing (code 0000) + the com port configuration.
I have this problem since WM6 (I tried mUn, XPlore 1.0, 1.1, Core 2.0x, and now i'm with XM6).
No problem under WM5.
GPS is XLock256 (sold by Orange in France).
Anybody know what is happening ?
Thanks.

TomTom
Install TomTom, or if it's installed all is ok.
unpair your GPS unit.
Reset the GPS unit with the power button (normally by holding it)
Now Pair the GPS Device.
go to com Ports, and add a outgoing Port (Whatever port is available, me somehow I'm hooked to 7)
Now start TomTom
go to settings, GPS Config and choose other Bluetooth GPS (now wait)
Switch of and on again your GPS receiver, because it could be in a powersave mode, but still do it.
Choose your chosen port (me as said 7)
.......patience, now it should connect
Now it should be ok.
Play with it for a while, and close the app in it's specified way.
Now it should start as normal.
If you follow these instructions to the letter it works.

I don't see what I missed before, but apllying your procedure solved the problem.
Thanks a lot for your help.

paudib said:
I don't see what I missed before, but apllying your procedure solved the problem.
Thanks a lot for your help.
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Normally it's the Auto Powersave which causes the problems, 1 year ago it took me 6 weeks to figure this out.

I'm having the exact same problem since upgrading to WM6 and despite following these instructions numerous times, every time I relaunch TomTom I get a prompt asking if I want to pair my GPS. If I select no, I get prompetd about every 5 seconds until I select yes at which point my existing pairing is deleted and a new one created. This pairing then lasts for the current TomTom session but the cycle restarts all over again when I relaunch TomTom and turn on my GPS again.
WM5 was completely flawless with the way it handled my GPS connection so what is different that is causing this behaviour?

BLUE Angel on WM6 tomtom6 BG001 GPS issue
Followed your procedure, got the connection set. Thanks loads, I was tearing my hair out. lj

BT GPS COM port not showing in TomTom

Have just installed WM6 (JW 2.02.02 WWE) and everything appears to be fine except for the BT com port in TomTom Nav5. Have paired the BT GPS, set the outgoing port (COM0) but it doesn't appear in the list of ports available in TomTom.
Is this a known issue or have I got to set something else? Have also tried the External GPS manager in 'Settings' but that port doesn't show either.

Sheepdip said:
Have just installed WM6 (JW 2.02.02 WWE) and everything appears to be fine except for the BT com port in TomTom Nav5. Have paired the BT GPS, set the outgoing port (COM0) but it doesn't appear in the list of ports available in TomTom.
Is this a known issue or have I got to set something else? Have also tried the External GPS manager in 'Settings' but that port doesn't show either.
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I've had the same problem.
What I've done about this, is I've added a Serial port profile for the GPS device. Then went into TomTom and the port was in the list. This port has worked fine.
Tried setting External GPS in the Settings/Connections, to share it, well - TOUGH, does not work.
So I have a working TomTom and I gave up for now about the sharing stuff...

Try setting port 8.

I'm not interested in sharing it (at the moment).
Can you explain what you mean by 'added a serial port profile'?
I've set up an outgoing com port in settings > bluetooth > COM ports but it's not seen by TomTom

tyl said:
Try setting port 8.
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I must have tried all the ports that were available but none of them show. All I get is the standard TomTom list: -
QCT Data Interface
Serial Cable on COM1
COM7
RIL on COM6
Infrared Port
Ir on COM3
and of course non of those work either.

Sheepdip said:
I must have tried all the ports that were available but none of them show. All I get is the standard TomTom list: -
QCT Data Interface
Serial Cable on COM1
COM7
RIL on COM6
Infrared Port
Ir on COM3
and of course non of those work either.
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Exactly where you wrote it, in COM ports.
Then I've selected "Other Bluetooth GPS receiver" as receiver type in TomTom 6, and here's what I have:
COM5:
QCT Data Interface
Serial Cable on COM1:
COM7:
RIL on COM6:
Infrared Port
Ir on COM3:
COM4:
COM5 is my attempt to share GPS which is failing so far, so disregard it for here (but I'll try COM8 later). COM4 is the Outgoing Bluetooth port and that's the one I selected.
I must admit that I honestly don't understand why this setup works for me. I expected to put Incoming port number (a common for all devices) there, but obviously didn't have it.

Hmmm, that's strange. What you have is exactly what I used to get in WM5 but it doesn't seem to work in WM6? I'm also on TT5 so that may be an issue?
From what I can see, the 'QTC Data Interface' is the GPS sharing port and is actually COM9, installed by the OS. But it doesn't work!
Frustrating............!
I'm also getting tons of memory leak by the looks of it.

SORTED!
Feel a bit stoopid. Checked the version of TT5 and it showed 5.0. Upgraded to 5.21 (which is what I thought I installed) and bingo! Com port shows and works.
Thanks to all who made suggestions.

Sheepdip said:
Feel a bit stoopid. Checked the version of TT5 and it showed 5.0. Upgraded to 5.21 (which is what I thought I installed) and bingo! Com port shows and works.
Thanks to all who made suggestions.
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Man, my TomTom is version 6.010.
Just in case, it's available.

put in External GPS the program port on 8.
then you will see com 8 in TomTom.
connect it in TomTom and after that change the program port back to none and hardware port on 8.
problem solved.

I've had this problem on a Mini S, Exec, Vario II.
Some times just removing TomTom and re-installing it seems to work. On several occasions the correct COM port shows up in TomTom. I honestly don't know why. It seems a bit random.

Airax said:
I've had this problem on a Mini S, Exec, Vario II.
Some times just removing TomTom and re-installing it seems to work. On several occasions the correct COM port shows up in TomTom. I honestly don't know why. It seems a bit random.
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I have seen some recommendation to not select Bluetooth receiver. I don't know, I thought it would be un-cool So I made it work with Bluetooth receiver.

EastExpert said:
Man, my TomTom is version 6.010.
Just in case, it's available.
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I know, but the old TT5 maps won't work with 6 and I've got quite a few that don't come with the Europe disk.

solution to tt gps connection problems
hi everyone with this problem,
no matter what your setup is vario, xda, dell, tt5 or tt6, tomtom gps or other GPS try this method (it does bloody work) :
STEP 1 : INSTALL TOMTOM5 OR TT6
You do this by copying the CAB files from the CDROM using JasJar or using SD card o any other way
STEP 2 : UPGRADE (THIS IS NOT ESSENTIAL, ONLY DO IT IF YOU HAVE A NON-HOKY COPY OF TT)
http://www.htcclub.net/storage/ppcupd510.rar
or just overwrite patched version of main executable file over original
also having this install on some vario 2 may also help BTHTools1100.
STEP 3 : ACTIVATE THE GPS CONTROL PANEL
this is hidden option but if you use this wisely you will take control over your GPS but in many cases this is reson why tt sometimes works sometimes doesn't.
Fire up a registry editor (eg http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/phmregistryeditor.shtml )
Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MASCHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
Delete the DWORD marked "hide"
Add a DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec)
The GPS panel will now show up in your connection settings.
STEP 4 : INSTALL TOMTOM
1. Establish a bond with your GPS and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In BT, select the OUTGOING port to 8. (optional: make it non secure if available)
3. In the GPS control panel, select the GPS program to 0 and make sure that the hardware one, is set to None, also you should pay attention to 3 tab and allow windows to manage it - for now, you don't really want Bill managing things as it is recipe for disaster.
4. Start TT and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 0 free. Select COM 0 and close TT5. (if you don't get the port go back one step and check 3 tab)
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM 8 (before we set it up at 0).
6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 0.
7. Back again to GPS control panel and select NONE.(and now is the right time untick 3 tab option and stop auto managing)
8. Finally start TT and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
Congratulations
well, in case something didn't go well start from scratch - reset your software restore your registry and reinstall as much as you can get back to factory defaults using hard reset and etc.
I know this is is in bits available elsewhere but this is more complete and little bit more up to date, but there is still hundreds of people looking for this.
THE SUMMARY
I've spent many many days looking for solutions, registry and web and all sort of tools to solve this, but this method works the treat - and it does make perfect sense - I suspect the reason why this is such a problem is timeout. windows is not a good platform - and it is locked by ms and all sorts of legacy issues. Obvious reason is tt doesn't load quickly enough and and detecting correct port seem to an issue so if you follow instruction you will see that sulotion is guiding your software to speak with 3party hardware having windows in the middle
good luck

Paulius - Excellent instructions and they work just great.
However....For me it only works one time. By that I mean after I turn everything off and then want to use it another time - it again cannot see the GPS device - and I have to do all of the above again.
Do you know why the settings are not retained? Note; I have unticked the the stop auto managing option already.
Hope you can assist.

Paulius - Excellent instructions and they worked fine but only the first time unfortunately for me.
i.e the next time I want to use tomtom - i have to go through all of the above again as it cannot find the GPS again.
Have you come across this before. Note: I have done exactly everything you have instructed above

Tomtom loses GPS settings
Paulius - Excellent instructions and they worked fine but only the first time unfortunately for me.
i.e the next time I want to use tomtom - i have to go through all of the above again as it cannot find the GPS again.
Have you come across this before. Note: I have done exactly everything you have instructed above

I had the same problem.
Luckily I had a backup of my TomTom installation.
It all comes up to the navigator.cfg file inside the Navigator folder. I copied the old one over and did not enter TomTom's GPS Setup menu anymore.
All I did after flashing was to just pair my BT GPS receiver and start TomTom. One needs to wait 5 seconds or so after the main screen opens, until the GPS is found. Do not try to select the receiver in the settings menu!
This happend on both my devices (BA and UNIVERSAL) after installing a WM6 firmware WITH the GPS Manager in the Settings.
Cheers,
vma

Thanks VMA - I understand.
Did you setup an outgoing port though in Bluetooth?

reply to nsm
hi nsm, sorry it took this long to respond, I didn't know the solution to your problem.
However, after few gliches with my pda's I think I can add to the list of thing to go wrong.
First is WM itself sometimes causes problems - so before you do anything else turn it of and on again - it did happen to me in the middle of london and I come from Lithuania well, it can be good fun navigating through canary warf without gps - aim for tall buildings :-D or away from them.
Second is once you followed my original instruction do not go back to gps settings menu, because after this you will have to start again from begining.
Third - is do allow minute or few for gps to lock onto satellites - especially if you are in doors or between buildings. Once in Crete it was quite hard to find satellite signal because of a mountains and I had clear sky view to one direction - but as you drive especially bigger cars, metal body will block signal.
Fullproof recipe is to have two units, if possible for one of them use bluetooth separate gps module as this will allow you to place both gps unit and pda screen in ideal locations for satellite signal and driver.
Fourth - this is boring and can take a lot of time, but may resolve lots of weird issues. Follow my instructions and then you set your tomtom to use data transfer baud rate 4800, 9600 and etc do try all the options - from low to high rate, this means that every time you'll have to start again instructions from beginning. TT6 on some of my pda's prefers 56700, tt5 - 4800 and so on. give this some time explore all the settings.
And finally if you have stability issues check your pda memory limits - try not to push it to 90%+ on unit or memory car, best is to leave plenty on both, this may cause settings not to be saved and all sorts of bugs.
the practical advice is to keep selling and buying pdas till you find one which will do the job for you, Try ebay , but do check descriptions and guides and most important sellers rating! All pda, mda and nokia simbion phones I tried with enough effort will work but many many of them have issues with stability or are difficult to setup.
Hope this helps.
Good luck

lg incite internal gps

i have been trying to use tomtom with lg ct810 incite. however no luck getting it to connect to internal gps. or any other program for that fact. does at&t lock gps to navigator somehome. any help would be appreciated

any help??

Without having the device (which almost noone here has), it's very difficult to help without a proper rom dump. With a rom dump help can be given.
If you're interested in dumping the rom and posting, here's info on how to do so:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2919305

Navigation Software for the Incite.
I have not tried TOM-TOM but i have GarminXT5.0.20w woking while reading the internal GPS on it's own and I have Nav-N-Go's iGO8 working using Franson's GpsGate as a gateway between the internal GPS and the software.
and google maps tool "Locate Me" works fine on it's own with the internal GPS. NEVER change anything under "Start-Settings-System-External GPS"; that is unless you are trying to connect to any GPS other than the internal. I got the Garmin working on second install and it took 2 months for me to get a good version of iGO8 that wasn't laggy on my incite. It can't be too difficult since this is the first phone I ever owned that has an actual operating system.

Look here
Check out this thread in tha ATT wireless forum, and then find a copy of gps gate.
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=LG&message.id=30327

13blackwolf13 said:
I have not tried TOM-TOM but i have GarminXT5.0.20w woking while reading the internal GPS on it's own and I have Nav-N-Go's iGO8 working using Franson's GpsGate as a gateway between the internal GPS and the software.
and google maps tool "Locate Me" works fine on it's own with the internal GPS. NEVER change anything under "Start-Settings-System-External GPS"; that is unless you are trying to connect to any GPS other than the internal. I got the Garmin working on second install and it took 2 months for me to get a good version of iGO8 that wasn't laggy on my incite. It can't be too difficult since this is the first phone I ever owned that has an actual operating system.
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Hi, I have a problem with Igo 8 on my LG Incite. It works fine for me when the phone is plugged in. When the phone is not plugged in, Igo8 doesn't respond to any touches. The screen goes black every time I run Igo8.
Could you share your experience with Igo8. I'd appreciate it.
Thank you.

I have the same problem with Igo8 on my LG incite?
haha20055, did you find the solution yet?
13blackwolf13, Can you give any hint?
Thanks

I own an Incite, subsidized from AT&T. The internal GPS works fine with Google Maps, as well as a geocaching program called WMMiniGPS.
I would like to use the GPS with Streets and Trips loaded on my laptop, but GPSgate on the PPC will not find my GPS port. I have version 2.5 of GPSgate, but it cannot detect anything.
I've read that other users have gotten GPSgate to work on the Incite. Am I missing something? Anyone know what COM port the GPS is on?

Nevermind. I forget to set the GPS to a virtual port through the control panel. It works fine now.

LG Incite GPS problem solved!
I got it working as well but only thanks to GPSGate. It took me some time to find a working serial for it but now it works like a charm. Google Maps works without it for some reason bypassing the GPS receiver lock. iGO8 was a little buggy first but the 14th version I installed worked ok finally It took me about a week to get everything set up.
In the end, I got them all working so if anyone is still having problems they can contact me and I will give them the solution good to go.
On the other hand, does anyone know if I can find a better ROM version? The original one is ok but a little sluggish right out of the box. Thanks

hi every1
i got gpsgate to work. does gpsgate use data on the start up because sometimes when i start gpsgate i see the data icon on the signal bar trying to connect. it connect a few a seconds with a G or a E on the signal bar than disappears. does that mean that gpsgate use data on the start up. i use stop data from lg incite forum and i know that i can not connect to medianet but when i start up gpsgate it looks like its connecting or connects because i get the G or the E on the signal bar. so any help will be appreciated
tia

i have garmin 5.0.0 w20 working on my incite

Problem solve for IGO8 on Incite Phone
I found the solution to the problem It require a line in the sys.txt file to specify the driver=GDI in the rawdisplay section.
[rawdisplay]
driver=GDI
Note: for Amigo use driver="GDI" in the system.ini in the save folder

help
hiii
I have a big trouble with this igo 8. Since I installed a software, it works well when I connect my lg to the computer(active syc. position) but when I did plug it off, software dosent open. if even it is open, dosen't respond touches on the screen. Please help I'm about to beat my mind((

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hiii
I have a big trouble with this igo 8. Since I installed a software, it works well when I connect my lg to the computer(active syc. position) but when I did plug it off, software dosent open. if even it is open, dosen't respond touches on the screen. Please help I'm about to beat my mind((
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IT is screen refresh problem . use my solution posted above.

Always gps problems with lg Garmin work fine, except speed of running. iGO & Tom Tom still without success

about help
thanks. it worked. also while it was running , 3d arrow icon or 3d car icon dosent show up on the screen. Is there anyone to help about this issue.

LG Incite CT 810 with IGO8
Hi Dismass,
Can you show me how to set Port, Baud to make LG work with IGO8
Thanks so much

If you are using GPSGate you can do it from the settings of GPSGate. Mine automatically created virtual COM2 and iGO found it instantly. If yours didn't do that automatically go to settings and create a new virtual port, it's fairly user-friendly so you shouldn't have problems doing that. After that it is just a matter of starting iGO and pointing it to the port you created, baud rate doesn't seem to make any difference on mine btw. Let me know if you are still having problems after that.

footballfan said:
hi every1
i got gpsgate to work. does gpsgate use data on the start up because sometimes when i start gpsgate i see the data icon on the signal bar trying to connect. it connect a few a seconds with a G or a E on the signal bar than disappears. does that mean that gpsgate use data on the start up. i use stop data from lg incite forum and i know that i can not connect to medianet but when i start up gpsgate it looks like its connecting or connects because i get the G or the E on the signal bar. so any help will be appreciated
tia
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GPSGate does not use a data connection, it just grabs the data coming from the gps receiver and sends it to a virtual port that it creates for other software to use simultaneously. The icons you see indicate the availability and signal strength of certain networks (EDGE, GPRS, etc.) although they've been kinda unreliable on mine so I stopped looking at those pretty soon after I got my phone.