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Hey all...
read through lots of posts, but can't think of a solution to get the gps working.
I have a Rikaline 7 series BT GPS receiver and TomTom2 (Updated to 2.4 and GPS 2.09). I have bonded the device to the xda ok, but can't get the gps to start. I have selected Tom Tom Wireless and BT on Com 6.
Also switch off beams... any tips???
I did a hard reset before i installed tomtom2, no other bt device attached at the minute.
Thanks
Fais
I got my Rikaline via post via ebay today. The instuctions were all wrong, telling me that it would be on Com8, when it appeared on Com 7 after some resetting of the PDA (it just wasnt seen at first even though it had bonded) ... sorry, but can't be of any more help than this .... make sure you get the alternative bluetooth stack at:
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
Try removing the gps from your bonded devices, run the tomtom wizard making sure that bluetooth is in "discoveravble" mode, it should then prompt you to choose, click "new" in the gps manager then when it finds the gps click it and finish. Go to bluetooth manager, switch to "on" and then run tomtom. Might help.
Thanks for the replies - really appreciate it. I tried what you both mentioned, and in the end i had no choice but to use Towa's BT tool and set it on serial com 5 for tomtom2 to pick it up. Every so often i have to rebond the device to keep it working which is a pain, but it works at least.
For some peculair reason, if i take the device out of range, without exiting tomtom2, again i have to rebond the device.
Thanks for the help!
Fais
Don't know if anyone else here has tried this workaround at all?
Using the remove programs in settings or activesync, remove Tomtom Bluetooth GPS Support (or whatever it's called).
Instead of setting up TT5 to use "Other Bluetooth GPS", set it up to use "Other Cable NMEA GPS".
Set the GPS Baud rate to 9600 or 19200 (both work fine for me).
Then set the COM port to "Bluetooth Serial Port COM6:" (or whatever your outgoing port number is for your BT GPS device.
The only downside is that you have to turn BT on manually before you start TT5 but it doesn't disconnect BT when it exits.
Used this setting on 3 different roads which lately caused me no end of lock-ups and not once has it happened. I think the problem is with Tomtoms bluetooth support drivers, constant problems with them since TT3.
I've only used this for 3 days and 400 miles but everything seems to be fine up to now, including traffic...........we'll see.
TT5
Did your TT5 load onto the XDA with no problems?
I have an XDA IIi and it loaded on no problems at all.
I have an XDA IIi and it loaded on no problems at all.
Great suggestion. I was getting really fed-up with TT5 and about to give up on it. Just back from France/Switzerland where it kept freezing, useless.
Simply uninstalled the TT GPS Support as suggested and used the existing BT Partnership with the TT Receiver and hey presto ... TT running smoothly again, shame I'm back in the UK on roads I know!
Does not work for me. But well worth a try.
This is doing my head in now £200 worth of TomTom software and dongle and unusable with the phone on!
arh help please
I have a problem with my XDA11 whilst trying to upgrade my navigator 3 software to navigator 5......
After I load the main program upgrade and then try to install the map disc one my pc ( desk top XP Profesional os ) it come up with tempory folder full, does'nt say if it it the pc or the xda11.
I have gone into all the temp folders on the pc and emptied them and it had not resolved the problem and I cant find any in the search function on the XDA
Any ideas??
Its a genuine copy of the Tom Tom software as well and there are no contact details on there sites including e-mail links
Regards Lee
there are known issues with Bluetooth device support using TomTom5, i was advised to use the 'Other Cable NMEA GPS' option when connecting a non TomTom bluetooth GPS unit.
also, i connected at the baud rate recommended by the manufacturer which i think was 9600, this worked fine without removing any parts of the software but meant manual switch off of Bluetooth in my MDA after use.
in addition to this, the Bluetooth connection issues with non TomTom GPS units should be resolved in the 5.10 upgrade, just installed it and re-paired an MDA3 to the Globalsat GPS receiver...it now auto switches off Bluetooth after use and the connection can be made using 'Other Bluetooth Receiver'.
another bonus of the 5.10 update is the keyboard shows on the display without having to use the hardware keyboard on the MDA...lovely.
for more info:
How to manually configure TomTom NAVIGATOR 5 for Bluetooth GPS receivers.
answer to last question about free memory during install problem can be found here:
When I install the TomTom NAVIGATOR 5 Upgrade the following error occurs: - Not enough free space occurs on temporary folder. Cannot run Setup
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Thanks for the link dont know how I missed that....
Only problem now is when I tap Start etc there is no Run command to enter the %......% command line
I tried the search in explorer option with no results any ideas?
Sorry I'm not the brightest lamp on the planet
you are tapping Start on your PC right?
maybe the 'Run' command has been disabled or does not appear in your Start menu because it's been disabled.
are you the Administrator of your PC? are you running XP?
you may have to go into 'Control Panel', 'Taskbar and Start Menu', Start Menu tab and choose 'Classic Start menu'
trying to cover as many bases here so you can make some headway without too much back an forth as i'm signing off now....if you can get to the 'Run' command on your PC then you'll be able to solve the problem and proceed with the fix from the TomTom site.
good luck.
I have had so much trouble with satnav on pda's, especially with bluetooth that although I have xda 1 with wired gps and spv M1000 with bluetooth gps I have just boght a Mitac Mio 269 dedicated gps system. It has a 2.5 gb hard drive, 500 megs for mp3, the whole of europe, which is millions of miles, preinstalled on the system. Comes with remote and different mounts and has sd card expansion. Obviously it isnt any good for phone calls or word processing etc but it gives me peace of mind when travelling as I have zero sense of direction and very little patience. I still leave my other gps in the car though, as a backup. :shock:
I have had so much triouble with satnav on pda's, especially with bluetooth that although I have xda 1 with wired gps and spv M1000 with bluetooth gps I have just boght a Mitac Mio 269 dedicated gps system. It has a 2.5 gb hard drive, 500 megs for mp3, the whole of europe, which is millions of miles, preinstalled on the system. Comes with remote and different mounts and has sd card expansion. Obviously it isnt any good for phone calls or word processing etc but it gives me peace of mind when travelling as I have zero sense of direction and very little patience. I still leave my other gps in the car though, as a backup. :shock:
Thanks
Decoy-7
Many thanks I told you I wasn't to bright you hit the nail on the head with the ( PC comment ) I was looking for the run command on the XDA11...
deleted the exe and evrything is loading up as we speak....
thanks again for your patientence....
Crusin-thru' I can see why you have gone your route its a lot less trouble I just use mine now as a back up phone because I spend a lot of time away from home and just simply use a Nokia 6680 on 3G.....
Also since I stopped using the XDA11 as a phone the pda doesn't keep resetting itself every ten minutes like it did!!
cash_13,
it happens to the best of us...had to think about it myself, instructions on the TomTom site could have been more specific saving many people a lot of time...but you dont always realise this until you have to follow the instructions yourself....glad you got it sorted now.
I'm struggling to get my GPS software and bluetooth receiver to work together in Faria's REAL THING ROM. I've paired the devices, used the wm5gpsfix.exe and all the settings under the sun but I still can't get my software to see the gps receiver.
The software is Destinator Lite (for the moment, until I can make sure everything's working fine and then I'll buy a better one) and the bluetooth GPS is a Navman something-or-other.
Is there any difference between wm5 and wm6 that would make the fix for wm5 not work any more? Has anybody else had any problems using GPS receivers and software in wm6?
No problems here. Have you set an outgoing port?
I've paired the phone to the receiver, and set the outgoing port to 5. Then, using the GPS settings in wm6, I have set the hardware port co COM5 and the program port to COM4. Destinator Lite will only let me select 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 and 9 for my COM ports, but I can't select any of those for the outgoing port which is why I'm using the GPS settings bit.
Does anyone know if the button on the receiver is supposed to do anything other than double-flash all the time and then turn off?
myk_83 said:
I've paired the phone to the receiver, and set the outgoing port to 5. Then, using the GPS settings in wm6, I have set the hardware port co COM5 and the program port to COM4. Destinator Lite will only let me select 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 and 9 for my COM ports, but I can't select any of those for the outgoing port which is why I'm using the GPS settings bit.
Does anyone know if the button on the receiver is supposed to do anything other than double-flash all the time and then turn off?
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I don't think all programs work with the GPS manager thing, I think they have to be written to that specific API. I have TomTom 6 and although this lets me select the GPS program port I have configured (COM7) it doesn't see the GPS. If I reconfigure it to work with the GPS hardware port (COM6) it works fine. I also have Pocket Streets 2006 installed and this works with either. Strangely If I start Pocket Streets first and minimise it then load TomTom it works with the GPS software port. I assume Pocket Streets kick starts something that activates COM7, whereas TomTom doesn't do this automatically.
HTH
Andy
Thanks for your help! Unfortunately, I can't set my outgoing port in bluetooth settings to any of the numbers that my program will accept. Is there any way of freeing up any of the others? At the moment, it just says "COM port could not be created. Check your settings and try again."
GPS manager sucks
I never got the gps manager working. I go direct to the GPS port and it works fine. Never applied any fixes either ... ?
I had to change my port from Com7 under WM5 to Com6 in WM6 in order for my software to "see" the bluetooth receiver. I'm using OnCourse Navigator6 with WM6 and was using their Navigator5 software with WM5. Not sure if there's a difference with the actual ROM or the software, but COM6 is the only one that works for me at this point.
However, under WM5, if I tried to pair map4pda with the bluetooth receiver, it never would detect it. But, with WM6, it found it using the COM6 port that I use with OnCourse. Strange. . . but, as long as it's working now, that's all I care about.
Working... somehow
Ok, I now have my receiver picking up through bluetooth and my program can find it. Not quite sure how it works, cos to me it looks like it shouldn't. But anyway, here goes.
First, I searched through the registry on my wizard for all references to COM3, which was one of the ports my GPS program could see but that I couldn't set as the outgoing port for my receiver. I changed all the (2) values to COM5, as COM3 is for IR which I never use.
Then I paired my receiver, and tried to set the outgoing port as 3, which still didn't work, so I went for 5, which did. Then used the GPS manager thing to set the hardware port as 5 and the program port as 3. (I don't think the GPS manager is working with my program though)
Then in my sat nav software COM5 was available, and now COM3 has disappeared (before there were 0,1,2,3,4,9 available) so now I can choose 0,1,2,4,5,9. So I selected 5, and it found it!
So now it works, but I'm not sure if this is an ideal way of doing it (messing with the registry ) and I don't know if I'd be able to use my IR port for anything now. I was thinking of playing with some of the "universal remote" programs that are knocking about, so I guess we'll see. But for now, at least my GPS is working!
Now I just need some better software...
I noticed that some programs see gps wehen it is paired and others when not paired.
I use TT6 with my Holux GPSlim 236 (both WM5 and WM6) and I set the outgoing port (in bluetooth setting not GPS setting) to COM6. Then TT6 sees the COM6 in the "Other bluetooth GSP" setup so I could select the port.
Have just installed WM6 (JW 2.02.02 WWE) and everything appears to be fine except for the BT com port in TomTom Nav5. Have paired the BT GPS, set the outgoing port (COM0) but it doesn't appear in the list of ports available in TomTom.
Is this a known issue or have I got to set something else? Have also tried the External GPS manager in 'Settings' but that port doesn't show either.
Sheepdip said:
Have just installed WM6 (JW 2.02.02 WWE) and everything appears to be fine except for the BT com port in TomTom Nav5. Have paired the BT GPS, set the outgoing port (COM0) but it doesn't appear in the list of ports available in TomTom.
Is this a known issue or have I got to set something else? Have also tried the External GPS manager in 'Settings' but that port doesn't show either.
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I've had the same problem.
What I've done about this, is I've added a Serial port profile for the GPS device. Then went into TomTom and the port was in the list. This port has worked fine.
Tried setting External GPS in the Settings/Connections, to share it, well - TOUGH, does not work.
So I have a working TomTom and I gave up for now about the sharing stuff...
Try setting port 8.
I'm not interested in sharing it (at the moment).
Can you explain what you mean by 'added a serial port profile'?
I've set up an outgoing com port in settings > bluetooth > COM ports but it's not seen by TomTom
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Try setting port 8.
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I must have tried all the ports that were available but none of them show. All I get is the standard TomTom list: -
QCT Data Interface
Serial Cable on COM1
COM7
RIL on COM6
Infrared Port
Ir on COM3
and of course non of those work either.
Sheepdip said:
I must have tried all the ports that were available but none of them show. All I get is the standard TomTom list: -
QCT Data Interface
Serial Cable on COM1
COM7
RIL on COM6
Infrared Port
Ir on COM3
and of course non of those work either.
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Exactly where you wrote it, in COM ports.
Then I've selected "Other Bluetooth GPS receiver" as receiver type in TomTom 6, and here's what I have:
COM5:
QCT Data Interface
Serial Cable on COM1:
COM7:
RIL on COM6:
Infrared Port
Ir on COM3:
COM4:
COM5 is my attempt to share GPS which is failing so far, so disregard it for here (but I'll try COM8 later). COM4 is the Outgoing Bluetooth port and that's the one I selected.
I must admit that I honestly don't understand why this setup works for me. I expected to put Incoming port number (a common for all devices) there, but obviously didn't have it.
Hmmm, that's strange. What you have is exactly what I used to get in WM5 but it doesn't seem to work in WM6? I'm also on TT5 so that may be an issue?
From what I can see, the 'QTC Data Interface' is the GPS sharing port and is actually COM9, installed by the OS. But it doesn't work!
Frustrating............!
I'm also getting tons of memory leak by the looks of it.
SORTED!
Feel a bit stoopid. Checked the version of TT5 and it showed 5.0. Upgraded to 5.21 (which is what I thought I installed) and bingo! Com port shows and works.
Thanks to all who made suggestions.
Sheepdip said:
Feel a bit stoopid. Checked the version of TT5 and it showed 5.0. Upgraded to 5.21 (which is what I thought I installed) and bingo! Com port shows and works.
Thanks to all who made suggestions.
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Man, my TomTom is version 6.010.
Just in case, it's available.
put in External GPS the program port on 8.
then you will see com 8 in TomTom.
connect it in TomTom and after that change the program port back to none and hardware port on 8.
problem solved.
I've had this problem on a Mini S, Exec, Vario II.
Some times just removing TomTom and re-installing it seems to work. On several occasions the correct COM port shows up in TomTom. I honestly don't know why. It seems a bit random.
Airax said:
I've had this problem on a Mini S, Exec, Vario II.
Some times just removing TomTom and re-installing it seems to work. On several occasions the correct COM port shows up in TomTom. I honestly don't know why. It seems a bit random.
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I have seen some recommendation to not select Bluetooth receiver. I don't know, I thought it would be un-cool So I made it work with Bluetooth receiver.
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Man, my TomTom is version 6.010.
Just in case, it's available.
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I know, but the old TT5 maps won't work with 6 and I've got quite a few that don't come with the Europe disk.
solution to tt gps connection problems
hi everyone with this problem,
no matter what your setup is vario, xda, dell, tt5 or tt6, tomtom gps or other GPS try this method (it does bloody work) :
STEP 1 : INSTALL TOMTOM5 OR TT6
You do this by copying the CAB files from the CDROM using JasJar or using SD card o any other way
STEP 2 : UPGRADE (THIS IS NOT ESSENTIAL, ONLY DO IT IF YOU HAVE A NON-HOKY COPY OF TT)
http://www.htcclub.net/storage/ppcupd510.rar
or just overwrite patched version of main executable file over original
also having this install on some vario 2 may also help BTHTools1100.
STEP 3 : ACTIVATE THE GPS CONTROL PANEL
this is hidden option but if you use this wisely you will take control over your GPS but in many cases this is reson why tt sometimes works sometimes doesn't.
Fire up a registry editor (eg http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/phmregistryeditor.shtml )
Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MASCHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
Delete the DWORD marked "hide"
Add a DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec)
The GPS panel will now show up in your connection settings.
STEP 4 : INSTALL TOMTOM
1. Establish a bond with your GPS and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In BT, select the OUTGOING port to 8. (optional: make it non secure if available)
3. In the GPS control panel, select the GPS program to 0 and make sure that the hardware one, is set to None, also you should pay attention to 3 tab and allow windows to manage it - for now, you don't really want Bill managing things as it is recipe for disaster.
4. Start TT and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 0 free. Select COM 0 and close TT5. (if you don't get the port go back one step and check 3 tab)
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM 8 (before we set it up at 0).
6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 0.
7. Back again to GPS control panel and select NONE.(and now is the right time untick 3 tab option and stop auto managing)
8. Finally start TT and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
Congratulations
well, in case something didn't go well start from scratch - reset your software restore your registry and reinstall as much as you can get back to factory defaults using hard reset and etc.
I know this is is in bits available elsewhere but this is more complete and little bit more up to date, but there is still hundreds of people looking for this.
THE SUMMARY
I've spent many many days looking for solutions, registry and web and all sort of tools to solve this, but this method works the treat - and it does make perfect sense - I suspect the reason why this is such a problem is timeout. windows is not a good platform - and it is locked by ms and all sorts of legacy issues. Obvious reason is tt doesn't load quickly enough and and detecting correct port seem to an issue so if you follow instruction you will see that sulotion is guiding your software to speak with 3party hardware having windows in the middle
good luck
Paulius - Excellent instructions and they work just great.
However....For me it only works one time. By that I mean after I turn everything off and then want to use it another time - it again cannot see the GPS device - and I have to do all of the above again.
Do you know why the settings are not retained? Note; I have unticked the the stop auto managing option already.
Hope you can assist.
Paulius - Excellent instructions and they worked fine but only the first time unfortunately for me.
i.e the next time I want to use tomtom - i have to go through all of the above again as it cannot find the GPS again.
Have you come across this before. Note: I have done exactly everything you have instructed above
Tomtom loses GPS settings
Paulius - Excellent instructions and they worked fine but only the first time unfortunately for me.
i.e the next time I want to use tomtom - i have to go through all of the above again as it cannot find the GPS again.
Have you come across this before. Note: I have done exactly everything you have instructed above
I had the same problem.
Luckily I had a backup of my TomTom installation.
It all comes up to the navigator.cfg file inside the Navigator folder. I copied the old one over and did not enter TomTom's GPS Setup menu anymore.
All I did after flashing was to just pair my BT GPS receiver and start TomTom. One needs to wait 5 seconds or so after the main screen opens, until the GPS is found. Do not try to select the receiver in the settings menu!
This happend on both my devices (BA and UNIVERSAL) after installing a WM6 firmware WITH the GPS Manager in the Settings.
Cheers,
vma
Thanks VMA - I understand.
Did you setup an outgoing port though in Bluetooth?
reply to nsm
hi nsm, sorry it took this long to respond, I didn't know the solution to your problem.
However, after few gliches with my pda's I think I can add to the list of thing to go wrong.
First is WM itself sometimes causes problems - so before you do anything else turn it of and on again - it did happen to me in the middle of london and I come from Lithuania well, it can be good fun navigating through canary warf without gps - aim for tall buildings :-D or away from them.
Second is once you followed my original instruction do not go back to gps settings menu, because after this you will have to start again from begining.
Third - is do allow minute or few for gps to lock onto satellites - especially if you are in doors or between buildings. Once in Crete it was quite hard to find satellite signal because of a mountains and I had clear sky view to one direction - but as you drive especially bigger cars, metal body will block signal.
Fullproof recipe is to have two units, if possible for one of them use bluetooth separate gps module as this will allow you to place both gps unit and pda screen in ideal locations for satellite signal and driver.
Fourth - this is boring and can take a lot of time, but may resolve lots of weird issues. Follow my instructions and then you set your tomtom to use data transfer baud rate 4800, 9600 and etc do try all the options - from low to high rate, this means that every time you'll have to start again instructions from beginning. TT6 on some of my pda's prefers 56700, tt5 - 4800 and so on. give this some time explore all the settings.
And finally if you have stability issues check your pda memory limits - try not to push it to 90%+ on unit or memory car, best is to leave plenty on both, this may cause settings not to be saved and all sorts of bugs.
the practical advice is to keep selling and buying pdas till you find one which will do the job for you, Try ebay , but do check descriptions and guides and most important sellers rating! All pda, mda and nokia simbion phones I tried with enough effort will work but many many of them have issues with stability or are difficult to setup.
Hope this helps.
Good luck
Hi guys,
Recently I bought Imate 8502. Everything works fine. I have installed tomtom 6.01 for wm6 (which works fine on my other htc p3600i)
Now problem in in Imate 8502 when i go in to the settings>External GPS>Hardware... it shows me "gps Hardware port "(none)". If I select any port and press ok and open it again, again it shows "(none)" in gps hardware port. So whts wrong with that.
Also tomtom is not working in Imate 8502. in tomtom software setting doesn't show gps port.(like in htc p3600i gps settings shows that gps in com9). I tried too much to solve this problem but got failure and failure. So I am asking help from any expert here.
Please help me.. I want to run GPS software in Imate 8502
Thanks in advance
1. u need to turn on gps manually
2. u need GPSgate
Thanks
Thanks netnerd,
well i turned it on manually as well but same things happens ?
by the way how does gpsgate will help in this problem? I have no idea of this software.. Though i have downloaded demo but I am not getting this software
thanks bro !!
waiting for your reply
tomtom cant see your build-in gps port
GPSgate will make a virtual gps comm port that gps programs able to see
Need Some knowledge
Dear Chintak i also have an 8502 but still serching for upgrade as u said u upgraded it with tomtom it realy works and how is the procedure to upgrade
will appriciate help .
hi ayesha,
I didn't upgraded anything in imate, I just installed tomtom for ppc.
but tomtom can't read gps port so m looking for another option
OK - hope this helps some....
I have the I-mate 8502, and TomTom 6 running fine.
Things I did:
- Installed TomTom...
- Went to Wireless Manager and enabled GPS. These are my GPS settings by tab (can get to them via Wireless Manager):
>Programs: GPS program port - COM9 (default setting
>Hardware: No GPS port specifed (not needed) and baud rate 4800 (again not needed) - these are default settings
>Access: Manage GPS automatically is checked (again default)
The only setup in TomTom was to set the GPS device to the IMEA option.
TomTom should see the device, but display a message that no gps satellites found or it searching. It usually takes a couple of minutes for the GPS to pass through satellite information to TomTom first time but it then works great.
Running the Telstra WM6 Rom
I followed Rathalian's instructions and it worked perfectly for me too.
I did have to select COM9 as the COM Port of the GPS device in Tom Tom Configuration.
I am also using a Telstra WM6 ROM.
Thanks everybody its working now thank you very much everyone
i-mate 8502: Anybody sells display or phone? /alguién vende pantalla o teléfono?
Good afternoon, folks
I was relatively happy with my i-mate ultimate 8502 till I dropped it and the display broke.
As I'm against buying new stuff if you can at a reasonable price fix something, I'm asking:
is anybody willing to sell almost altrusistically a display or even the whole phone? We could do it through the normal channels (paypal, google, ebay,whatever). Or in person, I'me based in Spain.
Warm regards,
Manuel