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hello,
does anyone has the hp 614c?
can give some data of it? its a good phone? how does it works? the sound is loud?
HP 614c
I got mine through work and do not like it. The phone itself is nice. AGPS works very well and the device is nice and quick but the battery is not good. i have just the phone and bluetooth running and using it as a phone got about 6 hours if lucky. Sound is rubbish.
I would not purchase one on a personal note
Thanks
Brian
rothariger said:
hello,
does anyone has the hp 614c?
can give some data of it? its a good phone? how does it works? the sound is loud?
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Go check out here : http://www.modaco.com/content/HP-iPaq-iPaq-MoDaCo-com/261287/Questions-about-HP-IPAQ-610/
Cheers,
Dirk
Going by the different reviews I have read I will not go for it. I have the following reservations based on the reviews of course:
The external speaker volume is said to be very low.
The navigation wheel is a bit tricky. While pressing the number keys you inadvertently hit on it. I would have preferred a normal D-Pad and a scroll wheel.
Regards
I was very surprised by how large it was.
Tracy and Matt's blog has good pictures and video. Its larger then the TyTN II and almost as thick.
I still am waiting for the 914 personally.
seems to have some problem for now, expecially for data connection, rom instability and battery. It's a very young phone, I suggest you to wait a bit and see if this issue will be fixed
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seems to have some problem for now, expecially for data connection, rom instability and battery. It's a very young phone, I suggest you to wait a bit and see if this issue will be fixed
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Never had any issue on that
About the scrollwheel : when you need to dial a number or anything , you open the phone app by pressing the green button, and the scrollwheel is automaticly disabled....
I use it now for almost a month without any problem whatsoever. What I did remark is that most of the reviews are made by ppl that actualy don't USE the phone. If you check the link I provided higher in this thread, you'll learn much more about that machine, then by just reading that kind of reviews.
Cheers anyway,
Dirk
maevro said:
I was very surprised by how large it was.
Tracy and Matt's blog has good pictures and video. Its larger then the TyTN II and almost as thick.
I still am waiting for the 914 personally.
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The 914 is even larger. It's a good phone (so far) but I get the impression there's ppl are longing for something that is not workable anymore. A smaller phone will have a smaller screen, which renders its useability to zero. Unless you like to put your phone under a microscope to read the display.
Cheers,
Dirk
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seems to have some problem for now, expecially for data connection, rom instability and battery. It's a very young phone, I suggest you to wait a bit and see if this issue will be fixed
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I've had my phone for 2 weeks and I dont have any of the problems you mention... The only time I need to reboot my phone was when installing software that needed reboot.
I now have mine on order at Clove. Wish any of the users could answer my earlier queries. How is the external speaker volume? Can the touch scroll wheel be used for doing what a conventional D-Pad can do?
Thanks and Regards
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I now have mine on order at Clove. Wish any of the users could answer my earlier queries. How is the external speaker volume? Can the touch scroll wheel be used for doing what a conventional D-Pad can do?
Thanks and Regards
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Hi,
Check here : http://www.modaco.com/content/HP-iPaq-iPaq-MoDaCo-com/261287/Questions-about-HP-IPAQ-610/
Cheers,
Dirk
I bought one online last month in the UK, just in time to get 50 pounds cashback. Bt excited to have it delivered, but all the remaining feeling two weeks later is disappointment.
1, the smart wheel is nice, but no "Enter" key be defined, its original separate enter key is way inconvenient to press. even for the left side "scroll" wheel, you will find it difficult to press "enter".
2, the keyboard is not well designed because you will find it's not easy to hit the key you want, ofter mistakes
3, battery life, shorter than 1590mAh battery should be, under normal usages, only last for one day or more
4, the speaker is very small and weak. perhaps you may change HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Phone\Vol, from the default 6666（HEX）to 8888 for example, it seems better on my own
5, system unstable, often freeze and have to soft reset, especially when you installed a couple of softwares.
I've seen a few hit or miss issues that have been coming to light since the release of the TF700 infinity. On some devices, it seems to work and on others, not as well or not at all. From this, it seemed quite necessary to have a thread to identify the issues that others may encounter and for what they should check to know if they have a "good device" or whether it should be returned. Please let me know if their are any items that should be related to this list. If you wish to discuss your tablet's attributes (both good and bad) further, Pretoriano80 has made such a thread: [Infinity issues/defects/good features] Share your issues, defects or best features
Make sure you charge your tablet before using! Explanation in point 3.
Also, do not update past 9.4.5.26 during these tests if you want to use NVFlash!
1- Does your device have good build quality?
Some people have found that there are scratches on the device, frame's bent, the display is poorly set, the ports may be improperly mounted or other such things. It is recommended that if you encounter any of these that you return the device to get another one since you paid a lot of money for a "good" device. The tablet might click at corners, some of the backlight might bleed through around the edges of the display, or maybe show a slight but often not serious protrusion of the screen from the device. It's up to you to judge whether the extremity of this occurrence on your device are serious enough to warrant a return depending on your definition of "quality".
A possible test for "light bleed" is to take a picture from the camera in either a dark room or the camera lens covered (objective is to take a "black" photo). Open the image in the gallery app and turn up the brightness on the device. In this fashion you should be able to notice any "severe" cases of light bleed like this. If the light bleed is little and only noticeable during startup, then it's probably nothing to worry about.
2- Does your device have haptic feedback? (Does it vibrate properly?)
When you turn on and off your device, it should vibrate. This vibration will be subtle like the feeling of a working electrical appliance and not like a console joystick. If it doesn't, then it probably is defective. There are various methods to getting some type of jiggle out of the tablet if you want a more extensive test. One example is to add such feedback to your on-screen keyboard via Settings -> Language & Input. I'll just go over the basic "Android Keyboard". Select the sliders button next to the keyboard, look for "vibrate on keypress", put a little check next to that, then go into "advanced settings". By default, these vibrations are set to 1ms which is a duration too short to provide any feedback. Adjust the "Keypress vibration duration settings" to something like 100ms in order to ensure that the buzz happens. Finally, verify that your default keyboard is set to the "Android Keyboard" and then open up something like SuperNote where you can type. You should have some buzzing upon every keypress. When done with this test, just go back into the keyboard settings and disable the "vibrate on keypress".
3- Is your battery life ~9 hours in power-saving mode or ~6 hours in balanced mode?
Some people have noticed that they either never reach this amount or never come close to it. This is kind of an expected behavior since on the first page of the instructions manual (you did read the manual, right?) it mentions this:
"Fully charge the battery up to eight hours for the first-time use. The battery reaches its maximum capacity after one full charging and discharging cycle." Therefore, one is supposed to charge the battery for up to an 8 hour period prior to use and then discharge the battery (until ~10% or so). You may encounter a variant of this concerning "a few cycles" but still, right after tearing the plastic off the box like a rapid child at Christmas, ensure that you just plug it in and forget about it for 8 hours (or until the charging light turns off). Otherwise, it can have a lasting negative impact on battery life.
More information about Li-ion can be found here.
4- Does the GPS work?
The TF700 shares a few things with the TF201 Prime (which had notoriously bad wireless, including Wifi communication, Bluetooth, and GPS). Some owners of the Prime didn't remember to check GPS even when everything else worked and later needed to get a Dongle. Ergo, why I put it here high on the list. I believe many of the issues dealing with hardware and software have been addressed by ASUS so if your GPS doesn't work, try updating (not past 9.4.5.26!) the device or send it back since it might be hardware related. Make sure that when testing, you have the "find location via wifi" option turned off if using Maps. Otherwise, test with a tool from Google Play Store like GPS Status or GPS Test. Note: testing may involve going outside and dancing with the device as the first connection is often the most difficult to get.
When GPS is working, you should see a little circle with a blinking dot inside in the lower right-hand corner. Sometimes, the dot might not blink and can seem to influence how well GPS programs work. Its a strange thing but with a simple solution (from myself encountering it on both the TF300 and the TF700): just open the notifications bar and close it again. The dot should be blinking. If not, try actually turning off and then turning back on the GPS via the notifications bar.
5- Does mini-HDMI work?
Though not necessarily a tendency of faults in the infinity, it is important to check all the offered functionality of the device prior to making it a permanent fixture in your life. Remember that if you don't have a friend with a mini-HDMI cable, Walmart (and many other stores) will accept returns provided they are within a particular time period. Feel free to use this return policy to test your device.
6- Can you watch video/youtube/netflix/etc while using a bluetooth headset?
Some people have noticed that there is a huge decrease in speed when watching a video while using a bluetooth headset for audio. The cause of this is unknown and the only explanation we know of is "because wifi and bluetooth share the same antenna". This seems plausible except that many other devices also use the same antenna for both functionalities yet do not display this behavior. Due to the underlying fact we do not know whether it is software or hardware related, it is advisable to return the product.
7- Does the headphone jack work?
Just for thoroughness and ease-of-testing, plug in a set of ear buds and make sure you hear sound. Some have complained that the quality is mediocre due to a humming noise but that the noise is negligible. If the noise is too pronounced, there still is the mounted speaker and if point 6's test was successful, bluetooth is still an option.
8- Does your device feel quick to respond? If not, are you on firmware version .26?
It has been widely noted that version .26 of the firmware made the tablet very snappy. This also helped the device to recognize more microSD cards but also caused problems with NTFS-formatted drives. If you aren't getting the response you want, try upgrading to .26 (not beyond that). Additionally, if your microSD card is NTFS, you may want to reformat it (backup whatever you want to keep first) to FAT32 or exFAT until the issues with NTFS are ironed out. This point also concerns point 9 further down.
9- Can you receive OTA updates? (This should be fixed since Aug 7)
Provided that you are on version .21 or .22, you should be able to receive updates from ASUS for your device via the "About Tablet" option in settings. If you cannot, this might be indicative of another issue which has yet to be identified. You can apply updates without OTA via these methods:
(easiest way)[HOW TO]Tired to wait the .26 with WW TF700 device?
(another way)*** Firmware News & Alternative Install Methods*** Ver. 9.4.5.26 27/07
(requires root)[HOWTO] Manually updating firmware using "dlpkgfile" download via Asus FOTA server
(requires unlocked bootloader)[HowTo] Restore Stock Recovery and Install .26 OTA Manually with Unlocked Bootloader
(requires unlocked bootloader and TWRP custom recovery)[CWM] Repackaged OTA update 9.4.5.26 US/WW versions
Make sure you do not update past 9.4.5.26 if you want to use NVFlash!
10- (Only if this is important to you and then only if you are willing to forego any ASUS warranty) Can you unlock the bootloader? (This should be fixed since Aug 7)
Bonus Warning: ASUS has noted that using their bootloader unlocker will void your warranty and all OTA updates for your device will cease. However, without this unlocking, you will not be able to run custom ROMs nor will you be able to use NVFlash to make your device brick-proof.
[Device is unlocked][Video Added] Bootloader Unlock Tool Released [25.7.2012]
If you are still within your store's "grace period", you may want to try this out to verify if your device will ever be able to run non-ASUS android systems. There's no way of knowing at this moment if the bootloader unlocker will work on your device without actually trying to unlock it. If it does not work, it might be due to their service being unavailable, your serial number might not yet be in their database of devices for the unlock to succeed, your device serial number internally might not match your external serial number (on the sticker), or the problem might be something else entirely. Many of those whose bootloader would not unlock did not receive OTAs either so this shares the "issue which has yet to be identified" from point 9.
If you can give your tab a :good: to all of these points, then you have a good device! Congratulations! :highfive:
Maybe check out these threads next:
[INDEX]-[Updated -25 July 2012]-ASUS INFINITY TF700 - INDEX THREAD-DEVELOPMENT-PART#1
[RESOURCES] How to Root, Unlock, ROMs, Recovery, Tips & more [VIDEO TUTORIALS]
1.Yes
2.Yes
3.Yes
4.didn't try that yet
5.yes
6.yes
7.I don't care
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Yep, mines a keeper.
Build quality is acceptable .. (I own an ipad also) ...I'm going to say 80% the build quality of the ipad. It does OTA and manual updates just fine. Headphone jack works. Has slight click if you press the screen by the speaker ...but only noticable because I read here that it clicks if you press by the speaker . Speed, temps, light bleed, battery life ....all as expected ...not perfect but perfectly acceptable. I am enjoying the tablet, and have no major complaints. I can only assume it will get better with JB when it comes out.
The ipad is more polished, faster, easier to use ....but not by a huge margin. And I make allowance for the immaturity of android tablets and the OS compared to ipad and iOS. I think the trade off is worth it for the additional control... and eventual rooting of the device.
Price ....hmmmm... perhaps a bit high compared to the ipad.... about $75 less would have been nice ....but it's basically a toy for me so I can't complain too much. And part of the whole thing is I wanted a tablet....and I wanted to support the Android market so it would stand a better chance at competing with the ipad... because honestly I think Andriod is the future of tablets ...not iOS.
I'd say the single disappointment is ....I bought the tablet to watch motorcycle racing videos from MotoGP.com, which I pay about $120 US a year to be a member ..... guess what...the tablet will not play the archived videos from this site ....it will stream live video fine, it will play all other "current" content fine...but will not play the archived videos ...... my iPad plays them just fine. I'm in contact with MotoGP.com trying to solve the problem ...but it's not a new problem ....its across the Asus tablet line.
Still.... I enjoy the TF700T, and think it's a good product ....although perhaps should be offered at a bit more of a discount compared to the iPad ....for now.
I have no regrets.
JohnnyB
ray3andrei said:
1.Yes
2.Yes
3.Yes
4.didn't try that yet
5.yes
6.yes
7.I don't care
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Just want to mention these numbers are apt to change due to new things becoming evident as community use increases.
dataway said:
I'd say the single disappointment is ....I bought the tablet to watch motorcycle racing videos from MotoGP.com, which I pay about $120 US a year to be a member ..... guess what...the tablet will not play the archived videos from this site ....it will stream live video fine, it will play all other "current" content fine...but will not play the archived videos ...... my iPad plays them just fine. I'm in contact with MotoGP.com trying to solve the problem ...but it's not a new problem ....its across the Asus tablet line.
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This thread is really just supposed to be a developing checklist for people to verify their tablets since it seems that not all problems are experienced by all users and some problems are more extreme than others. That being noted, how did you try to access said videos? Is there a specific program or application you are required to use? Did you try other such programs from the Play store? Since you are paying for your access, I doubt it would be something that a non-member would be able to assist much.
Yes it is a keeper
Plays HD content flawlessly
The GPS is sooper dup on the road
The WIFI sensitivity is exceptional
Can be viewed outside easily
I really like the hotspot tethering performance also
Pretty much a sweet package
I use it a lot around the house to help me with DIY project info...
1- Does your device have good build quality?
10/10, clicks a a little but IDGTF.
2- Does the GPS work?
Yes.jfif
3- Does mini-HDMI work?
Never tested, never will.
4- Can you watch video/youtube/netflix/etc while using a bluetooth headset?
>2012
>bluetooth headphones
ISHYGDDT
5- Does the headphone jack work?
Yes, makes beeping rarely when I start videos.
6- Does your device feel quick to respond? If not, are you on firmware version .26?
Yes, like butter. I still want jelly Bean though.
7- Is your battery life ~9 hours in power-saving mode or ~6 hours in balanced mode?
6 hours in balanced, yes. Never go to power saving because lag.
8- Can you receive OTA updates?
No, bootloader unlocked.
9- (Only if this is important to you and then only if you are willing to forego any ASUS warranty) Can you unlock the bootloader?
Already did
The only issue I've really had with my device after upgrading to .26 is occasional lock-ups. One lock-up concerned me enough to feel a need to return the device. The screen filled with vertical (if holding landscape) white bars. Has anyone else experienced such issues?
I haven't tested the HDMI yet. And other then the inability to OTA or unlock everything is working perfectly on the latest build
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The only issue I've really had with my device after upgrading to .26 is occasional lock-ups. One lock-up concerned me enough to feel a need to return the device. The screen filled with vertical (if holding landscape) white bars. Has anyone else experienced such issues?
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My friend found one at Best Buy here in NJ. I told him to return it (not exchange) because of the amount of light bleed alone. He was not able to update it, and it just kept crashing on him which made it almost impossible to use. He's going to try hard reset it again to see if any of that helps.
1- Does your device have good build quality?
Mine is perfect.
2- Does the GPS work?
GPS so far works great without using the AGPS to assist.
3- Does mini-HDMI work?
Have a cable from my Prime, both worked flawlessly as does my Bionic.
4- Can you watch video/youtube/netflix/etc while using a bluetooth headset?
Funny thing it does drop from about 20 Mbps to about 3Mbps down, but that won't change no matter how far from the router. The upload is 4Mbps on both no matter how far from the router. It's not the dual antenna that's the problem, it's that they both use one controller chip for the two.
5- Does the headphone jack work?
No problems on mine.
6- Does your device feel quick to respond? If not, are you on firmware version .26?
Was definitely laggy on .21, on .26 MUCH better especially in performance mode. I'm excited for JB.
7- Is your battery life ~9 hours in power-saving mode or ~6 hours in balanced mode?
I charged about 4 hrs till green/fully charged. Funny thing is you can't overcharge these new batteries now and days. They are set to auto stop charging once full (that's the benefit of them now) So I have never "overcharged" because it's not possible. That being said I did a full charge, and am working on the first full depletion to recharge. I'm at 62% and that's 3 days later lol. I have been using it light/moderate the past few days. At least 3.5 hrs of Netflix streaming, setting it up, and not turning it off overnight. We'll see but so far so good and Ifinitely (like that ) better than my Prime.
8- Can you receive OTA updates?
Not OTA, manual worked just fine
Good list, thanks. Mine has passed all of these so far but the headphone test. I forgot that one. I guess I'll give it a shot tonight.
" "Fully charge the battery up to eight hours for the first-time use. The battery reaches its maximum capacity after one full charging and discharging cycle.""
It says" upto 8 hours" It doesn't mean you NEED the full 8 hours. Once you go green and are 100% fully charged, the charger shuts down on its own so not to overheat the battery. The "upto 8 hours" is for folks charging their device via USB on their PC - - which can take up to 8 hours to getting that full charge.
I just got mine yesterday, and while I haven't had time to test either HDMI or full battery cycle (though it's doing pretty well so far) all else is wonderful. Great screen, OTA update to build 26, great wifi and gps, headphones work fine. Sound out of headphones and BT headset is actually great. I do have a millisecond lag with BT audio and watching streaming video, but I could actually live with it, it's not that bad.
This one is definitely a keeper.
I have a quick question while I'm checking my tablet, which arrived yesterday... my screen is uniform across the edge, no creaking or inconsistencies, but the entire surface is raised, or at least isn't flush like my previous Prime. Is that normal? Anyone have a completely flushed screen on their 700? Thanks.
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androidxen said:
I have a quick question while I'm checking my tablet, which arrived yesterday... my screen is uniform across the edge, no creaking or inconsistencies, but the entire surface is raised, or at least isn't flush like my previous Prime. Is that normal? Anyone have a completely flushed screen on their 700? Thanks.
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My Gorilla glass has about a quarter inch beveled edge going all the way around
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My Gorilla glass has about a quarter inch beveled edge going all the way around
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So I guess the screen is higher due to the hardware improvements from the Prime. Good to know, just wanted to be cautious.
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My Gorilla glass has about a quarter inch beveled edge going all the way around
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Same here - more like 1/16th inch, maybe?
Mine looks perfect, but if I press a bit harder on the screen (you won't do this with normal usage) I get a hissing noice which sound like air is escaping from between the screen. At that moment I can see deformations on the screen. I have read other people do have the same issue, but wondering if this is normal (so all TF700 have it?) or if I should exchange. Any advice?
I have one really big scratch on the dockingstation. Going back to the store tomorrow to get another one.
Added xRevilatioNx's and neo1738's clarification regarding initial battery charge and the green charging light turning off.
Yeah, I agree with you that the new batteries can't be overcharged in the literal sense. It was merely to emphasize the fact that a "full charge" is necessary to receive optimum life out of the device's battery. We don't really know what type of charge existed on the device prior to our receipt, so it's best (or in a worse case scenario) just to charge it for the 8 hours regardless of the status of the light. Does it make a difference if it's 8 hours or until the green light turns off? Probably not. But for the Android neophytes just getting their hands on a tablet for the 1st or 2nd time, I think that my explanation is still applicable and satisfactory to provide a perspective easy to understand and beneficial to the consumer. Thanks for the detailed clarification though.
Received my champagne gold today and doesn't seem to be any issues at all. No light bleed, WiFi and bluetooth are perfect, and no I/O issues (updated as soon as I turned on the device). Seeing as the champagne golds seem to have come latter in the production cycle, it seems they are improving their processes slowly but surely.
It's as simple as that. I've been using my Nexus 4 smartphone ever since I received it on Feb. 1, and since then I have not turned on or even considered using my TF700T. Although this is just a minor annoyance, it's quite a hassle taking it out of my backpack on campus, waiting for it to boot up, and connect it to slow wifi, while I can just do whatever I want to do on my phone twice as fast and without any I/O lag. The only real thing I can do on the tablet that I can't on a phone is type up notes.
I really love this tablet and CleanROM has made my experience much better, but I always find myself going to the phone for everything I need. That being said, does anyone one here have any tablet-specific tasks I can perform on a tablet but not on a phone?
I have phases like this. New device love syndrome :cyclops: Bought a nexus 7 and didn't use the infinity for 2 weeks. Now I never use the nexus 7. Think I'll sell it. Screen estate is just a bit too small.
Bought a Microsoft surface rt. Only use it for work related tasks. It's a great idea but a terrible mobile device.
Phone screens are too small for sustained web browsing and productivity tasks IMO.
I always come back to the infinity. Great device. I'm sure you will fall in love with it again. Once the honeymoon is over.
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It's as simple as that. I've been using my Nexus 4 smartphone ever since I received it on Feb. 1, and since then I have not turned on or even considered using my TF700T. Although this is just a minor annoyance, it's quite a hassle taking it out of my backpack on campus, waiting for it to boot up, and connect it to slow wifi, while I can just do whatever I want to do on my phone twice as fast and without any I/O lag. The only real thing I can do on the tablet that I can't on a phone is type up notes.
I really love this tablet and CleanROM has made my experience much better, but I always find myself going to the phone for everything I need. That being said, does anyone one here have any tablet-specific tasks I can perform on a tablet but not on a phone?
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I'm having quite the reverse: my SGS2 never went more than 24h without needing a charge, now it sits there for 5 days. I text with wit, I tether its data connection by Bluetooth to the 700, I check my train schedule if I run into changed platforms and such. The rest: Infinity.
I might replace it with another fullHD tablet, non-ASUS, but I have to do a bit more research as to what my options are. I will not sell this one, however, as I have several optees within my family.
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I tether its data connection by Bluetooth to the 700
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Whenever I try that, my TF700 reboots immediately. Do you use any special trick, or is it just my old Motorola Defy that my TF700 doesn't like?
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Whenever I try that, my TF700 reboots immediately. Do you use any special trick, or is it just my old Motorola Defy that my TF700 doesn't like?
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Oh, it's definitely picky! Sometimes neither device will connect to the other (although both are set to being visible to any device), and sometimes even rebooting doesn't fix it. It stays a bit hit or miss, but you could give Open Garden a whirl (NB: it sets up an unencrypted VPN, so you do not want to send over anything sensitive, like banking data or the like, when you are, say, aboard a train or bus, but in the safety of my rather quite neighborhood, I used it several times when the normal Bluetooth tethering crapped out on me again ). Funny thing is, if anything, your Defy should reboot and not the 700. Which ROM are you on?
I pair both devices beforehand, then go to the Wireless hotspot option in the Settings, and CleanROM provides the option to do bluetooth internet sharing. I think I'm far too stupid to think of tricks on how to do this when that does not work.
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Funny thing is, if anything, your Defy should reboot and not the 700. Which ROM are you on?
I pair both devices beforehand, then go to the Wireless hotspot option in the Settings, and CleanROM provides the option to do bluetooth internet sharing.
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Defy: stock Android 2.1 (I don't want to mod my only phone)
TF700: CROMI 3.2
Devices are paired, "Internet tethering (via USB and BT)" is enabled on the phone.
When I connect the TF700 to the phone's "internet access" service, it says "connecting...", and after a few seconds I see the boot animation and Android restarts. Interestingly, not a kernel-level restart, I didn't see the bootloader logo. I remember reading about other reports of the same problem somewhere.
My workaround is to use WiFi tethering, which works fine. It just eats a lot of battery on the phone, but it's good enough for me.
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Defy: stock Android 2.1 (I don't want to mod my only phone)
TF700: CROMI 3.2
Devices are paired, "Internet tethering (via USB and BT)" is enabled on the phone.
When I connect the TF700 to the phone's "internet access" service, it says "connecting...", and after a few seconds I see the boot animation and Android restarts. Interestingly, not a kernel-level restart, I didn't see the bootloader logo. I remember reading about other reports of the same problem somewhere.
My workaround is to use WiFi tethering, which works fine. It just eats a lot of battery on the phone, but it's good enough for me.
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Mmmh... Never had that happen to me. WiFi tethering is my go-to as well when Bluetooth craps out.
sbdags said:
I have phases like this. New device love syndrome :cyclops: Bought a nexus 7 and didn't use the infinity for 2 weeks. Now I never use the nexus 7. Think I'll sell it. Screen estate is just a bit too small.
Bought a Microsoft surface rt. Only use it for work related tasks. It's a great idea but a terrible mobile device.
Phone screens are too small for sustained web browsing and productivity tasks IMO.
I always come back to the infinity. Great device. I'm sure you will fall in love with it again. Once the honeymoon is over.
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Hahaha I'm actually hoping that I'm going through a "honeymoon phase" too, I'm going to give it one more week to think it over! I do prefer the infinity for productivity, but what I mostly do is read over PDFs. I'm actually thinking of downgrading to a Nexus 7 for that :\
MartyHulskemper said:
I'm having quite the reverse: my SGS2 never went more than 24h without needing a charge, now it sits there for 5 days. I text with wit, I tether its data connection by Bluetooth to the 700, I check my train schedule if I run into changed platforms and such. The rest: Infinity.
I might replace it with another fullHD tablet, non-ASUS, but I have to do a bit more research as to what my options are. I will not sell this one, however, as I have several optees within my family.
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Ahh I see. I actually have the need to charge mine by the end of the day, but 'tis not a big deal because I'm home anyways. I do not yet have an unlimited data plan, but I plan to tether to a tablet once I do and hopefully that'll increase my tablet usage. Does tethering drain the phone's battery even more?
rikkoko said:
Ahh I see. I actually have the need to charge mine by the end of the day, but 'tis not a big deal because I'm home anyways. I do not yet have an unlimited data plan, but I plan to tether to a tablet once I do and hopefully that'll increase my tablet usage. Does tethering drain the phone's battery even more?
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Tethering over Bluetooth for about 2 hours during my train commute to work drains the battery for an extra 3 to 12%, obviously depending on what you're doing with the data connection. I never download immensely large files over my data connection, butjudging from the battery consumption, I guess I could leave it tethered for about three days running time in total.
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Defy: stock Android 2.1 (I don't want to mod my only phone)
TF700: CROMI 3.2
Devices are paired, "Internet tethering (via USB and BT)" is enabled on the phone.
When I connect the TF700 to the phone's "internet access" service, it says "connecting...", and after a few seconds I see the boot animation and Android restarts. Interestingly, not a kernel-level restart, I didn't see the bootloader logo. I remember reading about other reports of the same problem somewhere.
My workaround is to use WiFi tethering, which works fine. It just eats a lot of battery on the phone, but it's good enough for me.
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I am using PDaNet on both my Droid 4 (rooted, stock rom) and the TF700, now on CROMI 3.3 and I can tether the tablet through Bluetooth no problem. VPN is encrypted
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Hi guys,
I've been browsing multiple forums and have tried multiple solutions to get Android running as a second OS next to Windows 10 but haven't been able to get a stable working touchscreen.
I see a few posts saying that Bliss has added drivers for the Microsoft Surface touchscreens. I've tried multiple installations containing the tag "surface-pro-4" and "sp4". My findings are that the touchscreen is indeed working after installation, however it stops working after a while. Sometimes a minute after I boot up without doing anything, sometimes during a game, it seems completely random.
I've also tried different versions of the Phoenix OX, which gives me exactly the same issues. I've been searching the interwebs and found more people with this issue. I also found some posts of people claiming they have been able to stabalize the touchscreen, however I haven't been able to get in contact with them.
I'm pretty new to Android when it comes to running the OS on an x86 machine, but I know my way around Linux. If there's anything that should be modified I'd like to hear your thoughts as well. I don't need a complete how-to, just some directions for what to look for and I'll figure it out.
When I look at the issue, my gut points me to power saving options. However the fact that the screen so randomly stops working is not really in line with this thought.
My question: Has anyone managed to get a stable version of Android running on the Surface Pro 4 with a working touchscreen? If so, could you let me know which image you used for installation? I don't really care about the Android version (it doesn't have to ben 8.1), as long as I can get it running stable (not too old of course).
I'd love to hear your experiences or thoughts on this.
Thanks in advance, if anyone needs more information, please let me know and I'll be happy to supply.
Should I get it working at some point, I'd be more than happy to write a full how-to and post it here on the forums.
Kind regards.
I have one dual booting Bliss and working well. You'll need a bleeding edge rom. I'm running Bliss-v10.1-Beta-android_x86_64-OFFICIAL-20180602-1820_k4.16.8-ipts-blissified-ath_18.1.0-devel_w14_sp4.iso. In fact, I'm posting this from my Surface Pro running Bliss.
daze62 said:
I have one dual booting Bliss and working well. You'll need a bleeding edge rom. I'm running Bliss-v10.1-Beta-android_x86_64-OFFICIAL-20180602-1820_k4.16.8-ipts-blissified-ath_18.1.0-devel_w14_sp4.iso. In fact, I'm posting this from my Surface Pro running Bliss.
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What do I need to do to boot the dual (win10-Android)
daze62 said:
I have one dual booting Bliss and working well. You'll need a bleeding edge rom. I'm running Bliss-v10.1-Beta-android_x86_64-OFFICIAL-20180602-1820_k4.16.8-ipts-blissified-ath_18.1.0-devel_w14_sp4.iso. In fact, I'm posting this from my Surface Pro running Bliss.
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Did you install a different kernel or just the blissOS rom mentioned? Thx
Running as is. A few caveats from 3 months use: 1. Battery usage is not monitored; 2. Seems to run the processor flat out, so battery life is not great and the tablet runs on the warm side; 3. Buttons don't work, so no external volume control and powering off takes a long button hold to force shut down; 4. You'll need the keyboard attached to select boot options.
The rom I'm using has been moved.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/blissos-x86/files/Official/
I've been looking at later builds, but they seem complicated to set up.
For me, I'm using surface pro 2017 (which I think not really different from the sp4) running phoenix os. It works fine but without Bluetooth, warm on the back, sleep mode doesn't work and there's no battery percentage (it's always 100%)
Try Prime OS (mainline) version on Surface Pro
I'm playing around with PrimeOS on SurfacePro1 in liveboot mode. Almost everything seems to be working well.
Pros
Bluetooth and wifi works
Hardware buttons work well.
Games like PubG run smoothly. Button mapping is baked into the ROM
Even the pen works with well. I've tried the skechbook Android app
*One note app says that it does not support Android app on Intel devices
Cons
Sleep mode does not work like it does on phones and tabs. It'll just turn the display black and it's probably still running. Screen bleeding is obvious which is a surfacePro1 issue.
Hi, anyone know how possible fix flicker on surface pro 4 i7 8gb ram? I try all from youtube.
battery drain when the surface pro 3 screen is turned off
gulams said:
I'm playing around with PrimeOS on SurfacePro1 in liveboot mode. Almost everything seems to be working well.
Pros
Bluetooth and wifi works
Hardware buttons work well.
Games like PubG run smoothly. Button mapping is baked into the ROM
Even the pen works with well. I've tried the skechbook Android app
*One note app says that it does not support Android app on Intel devices
Cons
Sleep mode does not work like it does on phones and tabs. It'll just turn the display black and it's probably still running. Screen bleeding is obvious which is a surfacePro1 issue.
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hello, have you found a solution to drain the battery when you turn off the screen? my surf is the 3 pro
Hi,
how did you install this?
i cant install it.
i set safe mode off .
thx
With the prices on Z Flip 3 lately, I was considering snagging one to use as a dedicated hotspot. I’d love some advice.
iPhone user who can’t stand the built-in hotspot that doesn’t broadcast all the time. It works great for Apple devices that have same AppleID…not so much for others. I just want something that I can keep in my backpack and it’s just ready. Considering the Nighthawk 5G is $400…might as well get this.
Would prefer to use a widget to control the hotspot from the outside display and not have to flip open to use. I see there are some options there. Any tips or cool widgets to be aware of?
My wireless plans have 40-50GB of hotspot included, but I’d rather mask the hotspot so that it doesn’t come from that bank. Do I need to root? Or are there some apps that I can still download that do that?
Ethernet tethering…does that mean with an adapter I can hook up to my home Wi-Fi router as the source when our home internet goes out?
Anything else I’m not considering?
Thanks in advance for the advice!
A 3300 mAh battery isn't all that much power...
blackhawk said:
A 3300 mAh battery isn't all that much power...
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Good point. The dedicated hotspots generally have 4500-5500. Though I’ve seen that wireless charging with MagSafe works with a ring, and I have plenty of chargers that would be pretty convenient.
farnlc said:
Good point. The dedicated hotspots generally have 4500-5500. Though I’ve seen that wireless charging with MagSafe works with a ring, and I have plenty of chargers that would be pretty convenient.
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Depending on the current usage with screen off running as a hot spot constantly being on a charger may not work well. Phones aren't designed to be charged with the screen on ie in a high current drain state.
If it does maintain a 100% charge state... high temperatures and high cell voltage degrade an Li the quickest.
In the end midrange power cycling (40-80%) may yield a better Li lifespan.
farnlc said:
With the prices on Z Flip 3 lately, I was considering snagging one to use as a dedicated hotspot. I’d love some advice.
iPhone user who can’t stand the built-in hotspot that doesn’t broadcast all the time. It works great for Apple devices that have same AppleID…not so much for others. I just want something that I can keep in my backpack and it’s just ready. Considering the Nighthawk 5G is $400…might as well get this.
Would prefer to use a widget to control the hotspot from the outside display and not have to flip open to use. I see there are some options there. Any tips or cool widgets to be aware of?
My wireless plans have 40-50GB of hotspot included, but I’d rather mask the hotspot so that it doesn’t come from that bank. Do I need to root? Or are there some apps that I can still download that do that?
Ethernet tethering…does that mean with an adapter I can hook up to my home Wi-Fi router as the source when our home internet goes out?
Anything else I’m not considering?
Thanks in advance for the advice!
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1. There are a lot of options out there before buying a phone to do it. Make sure you've considered all of them, such as https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09742XJB1 (~$190)
2. By default, it's not an option. There are a couple options out there to run apps and widgets on the cover. You'll find them here.
3. Apps still exist that can run a hotspot separate from whatever your carrier claims is the limit. It's my understanding that the limit is bandwidth added, whereas using a third-party hotspot borrows the bandwidth from your phone. In your case, it won't make much difference not using the phone.
4. Using adapters, it is possible. That isn't to say it will be effective, since you would be using a single 5G connection broken down into a portion for each device connected to it. It's a bit like ordering one pizza. Either the slices need to be smaller or less people need to eat.
5. Phone hotspots are meant for when you run into trouble and someone needs to borrow internet or you have a tablet that would be better for completing a task. It's not a long-term solution by any means.
If you really want to buy a phone to run a hotspot, there are far better options. You can limit some battery use with the cover screen by running a full launcher on it, but that only compensates for the smaller device battery. At the end of the day, you trade that extra time you would have every time you are running the hotspot with the screen off for the few times you have to change settings not using as much power on that run. It would only really make sense if you already had the phone and were repurposing it.
https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-battery-Unlocked-Camera-Silver/dp/B08NWD7K8H
$229 for 5G and a 5000 mAh battery makes a lot more sense.
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1. There are a lot of options out there before buying a phone to do it. Make sure you've considered all of them, such as https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09742XJB1 (~$190)
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A dedicated hotspot would be fine, but I plan on using SIM cards on phone plans or iPad plans. I wouldn't want to use anything that would trigger a flag.
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4. Using adapters, it is possible. That isn't to say it will be effective, since you would be using a single 5G connection broken down into a portion for each device connected to it. It's a bit like ordering one pizza. Either the slices need to be smaller or less people need to eat.
5. Phone hotspots are meant for when you run into trouble and someone needs to borrow internet or you have a tablet that would be better for completing a task. It's not a long-term solution by any means.
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No arguments here. Every once in a blue moon we have a disconnect at home and we need to fire up hotspots. If I had an option to integrate into our router so that I didn't have to update all the connection settings that would be cool.
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If you really want to buy a phone to run a hotspot, there are far better options. You can limit some battery use with the cover screen by running a full launcher on it, but that only compensates for the smaller device battery. At the end of the day, you trade that extra time you would have every time you are running the hotspot with the screen off for the few times you have to change settings not using as much power on that run. It would only really make sense if you already had the phone and were repurposing it.
https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-battery-Unlocked-Camera-Silver/dp/B08NWD7K8H
$229 for 5G and a 5000 mAh battery makes a lot more sense.
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I appreciate the recommendation. The main appeal to this device is the form factor. If I'm going to run phone as hotspot I want it to be as small/compact as possible - understanding the trade-off in battery life. What I really want is a Palm Companion sized phone that I can program a launcher to only control the hotspot and lock the screen so it doesn't go into any other interface. Basically - act like a hotspot device - but have a phone IMEI that's less traceable.
farnlc said:
A dedicated hotspot would be fine, but I plan on using SIM cards on phone plans or iPad plans. I wouldn't want to use anything that would trigger a flag.
No arguments here. Every once in a blue moon we have a disconnect at home and we need to fire up hotspots. If I had an option to integrate into our router so that I didn't have to update all the connection settings that would be cool.
I appreciate the recommendation. The main appeal to this device is the form factor. If I'm going to run phone as hotspot I want it to be as small/compact as possible - understanding the trade-off in battery life. What I really want is a Palm Companion sized phone that I can program a launcher to only control the hotspot and lock the screen so it doesn't go into any other interface. Basically - act like a hotspot device - but have a phone IMEI that's less traceable.
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If the Ticwris MAX devices were 5G, I'd recommend that. They're 2600 mAh, but about the size of a Zippo. One thing I've learned, though, is if you approach a list of cons trying to justify how to accept or overcome them, you've already decided. Best thing to do is make sure you can return it if it's not what you hoped.