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wow the battery life is horrible even after all this configurations

i have rooted installed galicar rom. i have set cpu on and superpower. still the battery drains like crazy...... wthhhhhhh

2012iawait said:
i have rooted installed galicar rom. i have set cpu on and superpower. still the battery drains like crazy...... wthhhhhhh
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There is something wrong then. Try installing watchdog and see if there are any processes using a high percentage. It could be an app, and you might have a bad device. Try all your options first, there is more about this in the current battery thread here which is where this post really belongs.

bobsbbq said:
There is something wrong then. Try installing watchdog and see if there are any processes using a high percentage. It could be an app, and you might have a bad device. Try all your options first, there is more about this in the current battery thread here which is where this post really belongs.
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ok lets say i have a bad device and i call tmobile they will exchange it right. but i am already rooted and on custom rom. what do i do? i have the nand backup i can restore that. but how do i unroot it. is there odin for this phone? like the vibrant?

What % is considered 'not favorable' in Watchdog.
I just installed because I was curious about my own setup.
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Best battery? Battery life is all relative. Every single person will experience different battery life. The apps you have installed, the amount of time you spend on it and the time you spend on/in each app, distance from cell towers, distance from Wi-Fi sources, settings you have for every app and things like sync and what not.
There is no single variable that will ever help any of us find out what the best battery life is.
All the settings in the world won't help you achieve the 2 days I'm getting because I use mine differently that you, I have different apps on mine that you, I am at different distances from cell and Wi-Fi towers/antennas than you.
The best battery life is what you get out of yours.

right now watch dog says used 8% idle 59% apps 62

i am thinking about selling this on ebay and getting nexus s

2012iawait said:
i am thinking about selling this on ebay and getting nexus s
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IMHO that would be a huge mistake, but it is your choice. Just one that I think you would end up regretting.

well i just read the review on engadget they claim to get 20hrs of battery life with heavy use and lots of phone calls and it has gingerbread......

2012iawait said:
well i just read the review on engadget they claim to get 20hrs of battery life with heavy use and lots of phone calls and it has gingerbread......
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And it only has 512MB of RAM, no SD card expansion, built by Sammy (and that isn't a good thing). It's a step down. No HSPA+ support.
You have to understand that the Nexus S is a dev phone that is oddly being offered to the public. It's not really even meant to go head to head with phones like the MT4G and others. It's a pure developer phone.
But again, it's your choice.

you are right in a way but i feel that gingerbread has fixed the battery issue and we will have to wait for ever to get gingerbread on our mytouch. And whats up with the youtube app? it is still not fixed with the ota

Way to stray off topic. LOL
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Just got my first alert. It was for xda forum app.
Funny
daryllh said:
What % is considered 'not favorable' in Watchdog.
I just installed because I was curious about my own setup.
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Set setcpu to powersave mode and ther you go. Problem solved. Or try recalibrating you battery. Use phone till it dies completly then plug in charger without powering on delete your batt stats in recovery before u power on after charging your phone completly while its off. Phone battery recalibrated!
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ok guys i think i have a bad device i am ready to send this one back what do i do? i am roote and on diff rom. how do i make it factory?

Just get the nexus s then ......just seems like people find any excuse to switch phones ......then when u get nexus s " is just like vibrant, i need more memory , its laggy ," and then back to square one .....i had vibrant and g2 and now mytouch 4g and after using it since it came out i sold the other phones cuz this phone (mytouch 4g ) is a beast.....im super satisfy with mt4g yeah there isnt alot of development for it but the phone by itself like this runs with no problem imho ...........and my battery is way better on this than my vibrant or g2 ever was the vibrant was the worst one ....i had to carry a charger wit me at all times........
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2012iawait said:
ok lets say i have a bad device and i call tmobile they will exchange it right. but i am already rooted and on custom rom. what do i do? i have the nand backup i can restore that. but how do i unroot it. is there odin for this phone? like the vibrant?
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There are some threads in the development section. The true permroot thread has a guide to flash back to S-on and you can even flash back your original Hboot. I have done it before and it is not hard.
I don't know how long you have had your device but I would give it some time if you have only had it a few days. If you are about to run out of your remorse period then a exchange should be of concern. If you bought it from a retail store you can just go back in and get another one. If you bought it from the internet then you will have to call them and get them to send you a new one.
PS: I assume you are on the software 2.2.1 right?

bobsbbq said:
There are some threads in the development section. The true permroot thread has a guide to flash back to S-on and you can even flash back your original Hboot. I have done it before and it is not hard.
I don't know how long you have had your device but I would give it some time if you have only had it a few days. If you are about to run out of your remorse period then a exchange should be of concern. If you bought it from a retail store you can just go back in and get another one. If you bought it from the internet then you will have to call them and get them to send you a new one.
PS: I assume you are on the software 2.2.1 right?
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yes i am on 2.2.1 i bought it from craigslist. and can you please link me to that thread. and also is there possibility that i can brick my phone? like for the vibrant the phone was unbricalble if anything goes wrong just odin back to stock and its all good. what about for the mytouch how does this work?

if i turn the s on and i made a back up of my original rom and. and i do restore of my backup. is that good enough? if i wana send back this device?

Your gonna sell mt4g and get a nexus s.... lol it has no SD card slot and no hspa...
Aloha from beautiful Hawaii

Hi gang, just got my gorgeous Inspire

I've been wanting an Inspire for a long time and thought I would have had to pay full price for it rather than a consignment deal. Looks like I was wrong and I went ahead and snagged one.
This is just a purely outstanding phone. It is AT&T's version of the DesireHD and I've been using a DHD ROM on my HD2 for quite some time now. I'm very familiar with the ROM my Inspire has, all the setup and functionality, and setting this Inspire up was nothing new. There are a few minor difference here and there, though. I can say it is definitely smoother and cleaner and quicker than DHD on my HD2.
Not really sure if I will try to root it or not. The last time I tried to root a genuine Android phone was nothing shy of a pain and misery of frustration. It was a T-Mobile MyTouch 4G and it just would not root. That was the first and only time I ever attempted a root. It left me with a very sour experience. However, not being rooted, I can't use my backup programs like MyBackup or Titanium. Nor can I use my screen capture app, ShootMe. I don't really need to use any of those, though.
Anyway, I'm enjoying my Inspire and I look forward to interacting with and being "Inspired"...lol...at the XDA Inspire community.

I was a newbie with rooting but once I did it it was EASY and worth it.
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Some Android phones can be easily rooted than others. It all depends on the manufacturer and model of the phone. Don't let one bad experience ruin it for you. Here are links to two proven methods of rooting the Inspire if you are interested...
HTC Inspire Hack Kit
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
HTC Inspire 4G Simple Root and S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406

Use the Simple Root but trust me, save yourself some later hassle and click the "Fixes" option when you're done and flash the ENG S-OFF (radio S-OFF) so if you change radios, you don't lose S-OFF plus you get engineering features like fastboot (allows you to flash new radio images for one but also allows you to try out images before you actually flash them, through fastboot, which can be handy when you aren't sure about something or you are testing a new ROM)

Guys, the user experience with this Inspire is just getting better and better. It now is super fast compared to my experience with HD2 DHD ROMs. The boot-up is almost instantaneous and the page loading in menus like Manage Apps is so much faster now.
I doubt I will ever even root this glorious machine. I'm admiring like an iPhone.
For anyone on the fence about a purchase, Hell yes! Let it have a couple days of break-in and you will see the difference from first turning it on. I'm just glad I chose the Inspire over the Atrix. The Atrix is a super nice machine, but I just don't believe it can top the silky-smooth and top-notch user experience of the Inspire.

you got it right when you said the Inspire was gorgeous....my roommate is all about his iphone4, and i'm all about hating on apple (used them for 3 years and couldn't wait to be done) and telling him how great android is.
Lets just say i caught him today picking up my phone and telling me how awesome it was and how he actually wanted one after playing with the Inspire. I had the Captivate and that just didn't do anything for him, but the Inspire is just perfect!

buddy17 said:
you got it right when you said the Inspire was gorgeous....my roommate is all about his iphone4, and i'm all about hating on apple (used them for 3 years and couldn't wait to be done) and telling him how great android is.
Lets just say i caught him today picking up my phone and telling me how awesome it was and how he actually wanted one after playing with the Inspire. I had the Captivate and that just didn't do anything for him, but the Inspire is just perfect!
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The Inspire has some serious appeal. I still love my iPhone 4, but the Inspire has a quality all its own. My serious personal view of the DesireHD/Inspire 4G is that it should be the actual Android flagship smartphone. The OS...Android 2.2.1...combined with HTC's Sense 2.0 is just purely the cream-of-the-crop. The lag some people complain about with Android just isn't even a hint in this OS and on this hardware. I owned a WP7 HTC HD7 for about half a year and found the UI to be the smoothest I'd ever experienced. There was nothing that was a smooth. That was then, this is now. This Inspire is easily just as smooth, quick and clean as that WP7 HTC HD7. And the battery life is a little bit better, too.

Just got my Inspire two days ago. A bit leery of rooting myself. I've read the threads and instructions a few times, as well as watched the video, but I'm just terribly afraid of making a bad mistake, lol.

Sukuiku said:
Just got my Inspire two days ago. A bit leery of rooting myself. I've read the threads and instructions a few times, as well as watched the video, but I'm just terribly afraid of making a bad mistake, lol.
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For what root provides, I just see no desire to do it. The sum total of the apps I won't be able to use are currently 3, MyBackup Root, Titanium backup Pro, ShootMe. For how well this phone works and how clean it is, I'm wanting to keep the iPhone style feeling I have with it. Rooting it and such would just lead to a mess for me. It would strip away the pristine cleanness and purity of this fine piece of hardware.

Understandable. I would love to be able to use ShootMe and install new themes, but with being so new at things like this, the risk seems greater than the reward. I installed Launcher Pro and I'm pretty satisfied with the amount of customability I have with it, though.
I know there's a lot more its capable of after being rooted but most of it isn't something I would use, lol.

Sukuiku said:
Understandable. I would love to be able to use ShootMe and install new themes, but with being so new at things like this, the risk seems greater than the reward. I installed Launcher Pro and I'm pretty satisfied with the amount of customability I have with it, though.
I know there's a lot more its capable of after being rooted but most of it isn't something I would use, lol.
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If you mean skins, don't worry about the them. I installed a bunch of them on mine and there is no risk that I can see. Currently using the Wildflower HD and it works just like the original. I think I have 20 skins installed.

There isn't really much risk rooting the phone - the only real risk is if you apply ENG S-OFF because that involves replacing the bootloader and if something goes wrong there, you're bricked.

I don't see why everyone is afraid of rooting this phone, this is the first Android phone I've ever owned, and the first I've ever seen rooted, and I was done in a couple hours, it was easy, just read and follow instructions. For me being able to take screenshots is the biggest reason I rooted, but have found many other reasons that I'm glad I did. Messing with an iPhone for a year, if I screwed something up I would be in for a long process of re-syncing and setting everything up, but with clockworkmod, if u screw something up, a backup including all data and settings in all apps is just 10 mins away. Being able to overclock to add a little extra smoothness to the UI is very nice. And having the freedom to run the software I want and not run the software I don't want is huge.
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tjb433 said:
I don't see why everyone is afraid of rooting this phone, this is the first Android phone I've ever owned, and the first I've ever seen rooted, and I was done in a couple hours, it was easy, just read and follow instructions. For me being able to take screenshots is the biggest reason I rooted, but have found many other reasons that I'm glad I did. Messing with an iPhone for a year, if I screwed something up I would be in for a long process of re-syncing and setting everything up, but with clockworkmod, if u screw something up, a backup including all data and settings in all apps is just 10 mins away. Being able to overclock to add a little extra smoothness to the UI is very nice. And having the freedom to run the software I want and not run the software I don't want is huge.
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It isn't about fear. For me, I prefer to retain the pristine nature of this phone. So I don't want to root it and open it up situations that could slow it down and cause it to be buggy.

MartyLK said:
It isn't about fear. For me, I prefer to retain the pristine nature of this phone. So I don't want to root it and open it up situations that could slow it down and cause it to be buggy.
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Rooting is well worth the trouble. And to me, having all the bloatware removed yields a more pristine nature...
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MartyLK said:
It isn't about fear. For me, I prefer to retain the pristine nature of this phone. So I don't want to root it and open it up situations that could slow it down and cause it to be buggy.
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Rooting only makes the phone faster and cleaner, not the reverse;-).

oh ho! wadd up brother!

RogerPodacter said:
Rooting only makes the phone faster and cleaner, not the reverse;-).
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No, I disagree. Rooting allows you to do things that can cause issues. For people who know how to program and code, they can usually get better results. But for people who just need a phone to work and do what it normally does, rooting can be destructive.

MartyLK said:
No, I disagree. Rooting allows you to do things that can cause issues. For people who know how to program and code, they can usually get better results. But for people who just need a phone to work and do what it normally does, rooting can be destructive.
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yes ROOTING can cause somewhat destruction.
today while upgrading my phone to COREDROID, that thing bricked my phone. Somehow, I managed to fix my phone.
The coredroid thing made my BOOTING SCREEN STUCK. never got to its next step.
im not a coder or anything, im just following guides.

P00t said:
yes ROOTING can cause somewhat destruction.
today while upgrading my phone to COREDROID, that thing bricked my phone. Somehow, I managed to fix my phone.
The coredroid thing made my BOOTING SCREEN STUCK. never got to its next step.
im not a coder or anything, im just following guides.
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This is the reason I haven't rooted. I'm tech-savvy, but not a developer or anything. I see countless threads related to issues that seem to have risen from rooting. Either an issue arises during the process, or something happens that wouldn't have happened without root. And then there's that "you could brick your phone" deal. I'll stay unrooted.

[Q] Is a G2x worth it if forced to use a stock build?

My company is moving our mobile devices to a security software called MobileIron, which among other things is able to detect and block out rooted phones. I searched xda to see if anyone had experience with MobileIron, but not many results.
Anyway, I had narrowed my next phone purchase down to the G2x, but now I'm wondering if I should reconsider, since I'll be forced to use a stock build as I need to have it connected to work.
Any opinions on using the G2x "as is"? Presuming anyone here still remembers when theirs was stock

jdmarano said:
My company is moving our mobile devices to a security software called MobileIron, which among other things is able to detect and block out rooted phones. I searched xda to see if anyone had experience with MobileIron, but not many results.
Anyway, I had narrowed my next phone purchase down to the G2x, but now I'm wondering if I should reconsider, since I'll be forced to use a stock build as I need to have it connected to work.
Any opinions on using the G2x "as is"? Presuming anyone here still remembers when theirs was stock
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NO, whatever you do, do not get a G2x if you plan to use it stock. With custom ROMs however, it can easily compare to the Galaxy S II, and beat (IMO) the Galaxy Nexus, seeing as the GPU is outdated and that the highest stable clock speed I've seen on it is 1.35 (whereas some G2x users have been able to clock up to 1.66/1.7, it is rare though.) and normally clock at 1.56-1.6. Why does your carrier care about rooting? Seems like horse**** to me.

Root detection is listed:
http://www.mobileiron.com/en/multi-...pOjA7czo2OiJyb290ZWQiO2k6MTtzOjQ6InJvb3QiO30=
"Security
Password policy Encryption policySilent enforcement in the background Remote device lock, unlock, and wipe Root detection Lost device location"

You can unroot a custom rom... Most of these corporate packages detect the presence of the su binary.

TerryMathews said:
You can unroot a custom rom... Most of these corporate packages detect the presence of the su binary.
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There's other information which can be read for security purposes which would disable the phone from being used on the network and/or with email, etc.

They would have to furnish me a phone. The one I own, is mine to do as I see fit, but that is just me.

jdmarano said:
My company is moving our mobile devices to a security software called MobileIron, which among other things is able to detect and block out rooted phones. I searched xda to see if anyone had experience with MobileIron, but not many results.
Anyway, I had narrowed my next phone purchase down to the G2x, but now I'm wondering if I should reconsider, since I'll be forced to use a stock build as I need to have it connected to work.
Any opinions on using the G2x "as is"? Presuming anyone here still remembers when theirs was stock
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I have had the g2x for about a week, I played around a bit and installed some rom's and kernels to try them out. But at the end of the week I am back to the stock rom with a custom kernel. But then again I have always enjoyed the vanilla look for android.

WindowLicker09 said:
I have had the g2x for about a week, I played around a bit and installed some rom's and kernels to try them out. But at the end of the week I am back to the stock rom with a custom kernel. But then again I have always enjoyed the vanilla look for android.
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True I am on stock, but with root you can freeze or remove the bloat from T-Mobile making the phone a litter snapper.

GTWalling said:
True I am on stock, but with root you can freeze or remove the bloat from T-Mobile making the phone a litter snapper.
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Good point, I was trying to remember why I rooted the phone in the first place. It was ALL of the bloatware, ridiculous.

jdmarano said:
My company is moving our mobile devices to a security software called MobileIron, which among other things is able to detect and block out rooted phones. I searched xda to see if anyone had experience with MobileIron, but not many results.
Anyway, I had narrowed my next phone purchase down to the G2x, but now I'm wondering if I should reconsider, since I'll be forced to use a stock build as I need to have it connected to work.
Any opinions on using the G2x "as is"? Presuming anyone here still remembers when theirs was stock
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IMHO The g2x isn't a good "stock" phone.... If you can't even root it then forget about it, never mind install a custom rom.... Random shutdowns, sod, poor call quality (for me on the wind version) outdated operating system.... go with something that is awesome "out of the box"
If you can find a work around for the security app then go for it.
Just my 2 cents..
Pin it to Win it.

My company subsidizes the purchase of the device and the plan. However, part of the deal is no-rooting; and as pointed out by Core Memory, if the MobileIron product detects rooting the phone is disabled from email access, which thereby nullifies the subsidy.
I'm going to be on the T-Mobile family value plan (no longer a fan of post paid plans), so I need to buy the device outright and the G2x has everything I want and more for a reasonable price. I've just been a bit concerned about the problems with the stock rom; and would prefer to root it anyway. Of course, it would present for some interesting testing to see how far I could get rooting the phone without being detected
Thanks to everyone for the helpful input!

Its a great phone overall, just has horrible battery life. You should consider a 3500mah battery if it has to be stock, its definetly provided me double to triple the battery life I got on stock.
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I don't know what people are complaining about. I'm still running stock. I am rooted, but I actually haven't done anything with the root. Same for my ex-wife. Neither of us have experienced freezes, random shut downs, boot loops, and no issues with GPS locks (only takes between 2 to 5 seconds on a bad day).
I will tell you this, though...battery sucks on wifi, lol. If I have it turned off, my phone can go for a good day and half on light usage. But as soon as the wifi kicks on, bye-bye battery life, lol.
I'm sure there are better phones out there, i'm just giving you my experience. This phone seems to be a "hit-and-miss" type of phone. You might get a problem free phone, you might not. I'm guessing we don't have issues since we bought ours after all the updates, maybe? Either that or we both just got lucky, lol.

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I don't know what people are complaining about. I'm still running stock. I am rooted, but I actually haven't done anything with the root. Same for my ex-wife. Neither of us have experienced freezes, random shut downs, boot loops, and no issues with GPS locks (only takes between 2 to 5 seconds on a bad day).
I will tell you this, though...battery sucks on wifi, lol. If I have it turned off, my phone can go for a good day and half on light usage. But as soon as the wifi kicks on, bye-bye battery life, lol.
I'm sure there are better phones out there, i'm just giving you my experience. This phone seems to be a "hit-and-miss" type of phone. You might get a problem free phone, you might not. I'm guessing we don't have issues since we bought ours after all the updates, maybe? Either that or we both just got lucky, lol.
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Wifi saves my battery at home... isn't trying constantly to get a better signal... if you disable your 3g and just use wifi you will get better battery in theory unless you don't have a wofo connection and its scanning that will eat battery nom nom
Pin it to Win it.

I've been stock since I purchased my g2x and I love it. Its an awesome phone stock or with a custom rom.
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NO, whatever you do, do not get a G2x if you plan to use it stock. With custom ROMs however, it can easily compare to the Galaxy S II, and beat (IMO) the Galaxy Nexus, seeing as the GPU is outdated and that the highest stable clock speed I've seen on it is 1.35 (whereas some G2x users have been able to clock up to 1.66/1.7, it is rare though.) and normally clock at 1.56-1.6. Why does your carrier care about rooting? Seems like horse**** to me.
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Yep. G2x with stock rom=potentially (though not necessarily definitely) one of the worst phones you'll ever have to use in your life. 2.3.3 solves most of the problems it had out of the box. Mine on 2.2 simply would get an SOD (screen of death) anytime I tried to turn the screen on. Even on 2.3 stock, some people are still reporting random reboots, SODs, and boots that can't be achieved without re-inserting the battery. No fun at all if you get a bad phone that got past crappy QC.
But G2x with flashed rom=arguably one of the best bargains you can get. Rocking mine with EB rom and Trinity Extreme Edition, overclocked to 1.58ghz and undervolted.
One glaring weakness: Horrid battery life. Get an extended battery. I got a 3500mah battery with a replacement door for $9 on fleabay. Phone is twice as thick, but the battery life has increased dramatically.

No, while I've never had problems with stock G2x many have and it just isn't worth the risk. If you're looking for an old cheap phone then I would consider the MT4G or even the G2 if you're looking for a stable stock ROM. Both phones are fast as they are as well.

[Q] Should I buy a Nexus S?

Hey guys,
So, I own a Galaxy Ace, which is pretty outdated (but actually a few months newer than Nexus S).
What I mean is that it's quite slow with JB AOKP, and doesn't run it properly (no camera and no video codecs so far).
So, considering that Nexus S is still getting google updates for Android and that it seems like a very nice phone, and that it's cheap, should I sell my Galaxy Ace and get a Nexus S?
Thanks

I've had a Nexus S since it was released and as much as I love it, I think the hardware is starting to get a little dated. Unless it's an extremely good price, I wouldn't spend the money to get one.

mokflurry said:
I've had a Nexus S since it was released and as much as I love it, I think the hardware is starting to get a little dated. Unless it's an extremely good price, I wouldn't spend the money to get one.
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Thanks. I've been reading here about how slow JB some people get. Even, I think we can say that it's a top device with a decent screen. After NS, all I see are phones/tablets, which doesn't look good to me at all. Bigger screens than 4" is a deal breaker for me.

Felipe Ambrosio said:
Thanks. I've been reading here about how slow JB some people get. Even, I think we can say that it's a top device with a decent screen. After NS, all I see are phones/tablets, which doesn't look good to me at all. Bigger screens than 4" is a deal breaker for me.
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I'd say buy the NS! I've also had it since release and running JB now. For me it runs smoother than every before. Compared to the Ace you'll be very surprised!
Though if you have a bit more money to spare, wait for the new nexus phones and see if a 4" or 4.3" turns up.

Forget about Ns go for Gn.

Missed the point that he doesn't like bigger screens?
Sent from my Nexus S

kwibis said:
I'd say buy the NS! I've also had it since release and running JB now. For me it runs smoother than every before. Compared to the Ace you'll be very surprised!
Though if you have a bit more money to spare, wait for the new nexus phones and see if a 4" or 4.3" turns up.
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Well, let's say that maybe I have bought it already..
hahahahah
Anyway, it would be really nice to have the new nexus with a "phone screen", and not a "mini-tablet screen"
I'm quite impressed so far. No OTA for JB yet (is there something wrong?), but ICS looks awesome. Just the fact that everything works is already impressive for me. hahahaha

Felipe Ambrosio said:
Well, let's say that maybe I have bought it already..
hahahahah
Anyway, it would be really nice to have the new nexus with a "phone screen", and not a "mini-tablet screen"
I'm quite impressed so far. No OTA for JB yet (is there something wrong?), but ICS looks awesome. Just the fact that everything works is already impressive for me. hahahaha
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Hahaha awesome! welcome to the nexus community! Are you going to do any hacking on the phone? If not, did you perform a factory reset? if so, try refreshing the "update" section, maybe it'll pop up.

kwibis said:
Hahaha awesome! welcome to the nexus community! Are you going to do any hacking on the phone? If not, did you perform a factory reset? if so, try refreshing the "update" section, maybe it'll pop up.
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Thanks! About hacking, you know how we feel about new phones.. sad about taking their virginity. I got rid of my Ace because I want a phone that saves me more time than what I spend making it work properly. So I'll stick with ICS for now, and wait the JB OTA to pop up. Tried the update section, but not a factory reset. Do you think that the factory reset could make the update show up?

Felipe Ambrosio said:
Thanks! About hacking, you know how we feel about new phones.. sad about taking their virginity. I got rid of my Ace because I want a phone that saves me more time than what I spend making it work properly. So I'll stick with ICS for now, and wait the JB OTA to pop up. Tried the update section, but not a factory reset. Do you think that the factory reset could make the update show up?
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This is a known trick to push the OTA. Pull the SIM card out and have a strong WIFI signal. Open the Settings application. Select Apps. Select the All drawer, and select Google Service Frameworks. Force Stop the application, then Clear Data. Now check for an update. Select About Phone in Settings, and select System Update. It will have something like 1969.
If nothing then repeat all the steps above.
Oh and root that Nexus S...it begs for it :good:

Buy a Nexus!
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why not buy a galaxy nexus instead?

Did you two guys above me even read anything?
Ot: the Nexus works pretty good on stock, however for me it was a bit too slow. Also clearing data of the systems app like suggested above might work
Sent from my Nexus S

Hey. Thanks for the replies and the help, guys.
This trick to push OTA wouldn't result in any signal or other carrier failures, would it? Looked up on Google and here for a specific thread about this, but didn't find any.
Also, could the performance/battery life get better just from a single root? I'd need scripts like adrenaline engine or v6 supercharger, right?

Felipe Ambrosio said:
Hey. Thanks for the replies and the help, guys.
This trick to push OTA wouldn't result in any signal or other carrier failures, would it? Looked up on Google and here for a specific thread about this, but didn't find any.
Also, could the performance/battery life get better just from a single root? I'd need scripts like adrenaline engine or v6 supercharger, right?
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This trick does not influence anything.
Just rooting won't give you any performance. Also there are some discussions going about these scripts. I'm not a big fan. I just flashed a different rom with different kernel.
Sent from my Nexus S

kwibis said:
This trick does not influence anything.
Just rooting won't give you any performance. Also there are some discussions going about these scripts. I'm not a big fan. I just flashed a different rom with different kernel.
Sent from my Nexus S
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Like Kwibis said it doesn't effect anything if you do it this way. Pull SIM and turn on wifi. Go close to the wireless router for a solid link.
"Some discussions" lol They are heated to say the least...the creator of V6 Supercharger..Zeppelinrox, believes whole heartedly that it works and thousands of others will back him. Thousands of others say placebo...you have to decide for yourself. I'm torn since he's a fellow Canadian...lol. I've used it but that was a long time a go..
Rooting may or may not improve your phone. Depends on the ROM and Kernel chosen and every phone is different so there is no "Best ROM/Kernel" combo...I hate that question...lol.
Read up and if you choose to root do it the right way and learn ADB (Android Debug Bridge) using Android SDK. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007782 Old thread but still works, just get the newer recovery and superuser. DON'T use a one click because you will learn nothing so when you ef something up you'll annoy people by starting a thread for a problem you should know how to solve. Oh and unlocking your phone wipes everything so backup your music, pics, etc.
Hope this helps

Thanks people for taking your time! Helpful tips!
About OTA update, I just thought that there might be a reason why my phone didn't get it yet. If it was my old Ace, I would have done it the first time I read, but everything just works so great, that I don't want to mess up and then have to get into rom, kernel and scripts choosing again. About rooting, I misunderstood up there, the simple act of rooting it obviously wouldn't improve performance at all. But again, everything works so great that I'm even afraid of pushing OTA hahaha.
Boy, this GPS locks FAST. Indoors with windows closed. I still can't believe this. This would never (ever ever) happen with Ace, no matter how best your path for gps fix was. With stock config, well, sometimes you can't even get signal outdoors with the cleanest skies.
Anyway, will try the OTA trick (I miss my messed up JB on Ace).
Thanks again!

Tried the steps 4 times. Nothing happened. I saw the "Last checked in ..../1969", but it didn't find any new updates.
I guess ICS is ok too.

Lol check your date and clock. Are they set right?
Rooting is that you get superuser access so you can perform actions that normally wouldn't be possible like backing up apps and data.
Sent from my Nexus S

I'd suggest to buy the Galaxy Nexus instead of a NS. I have compared the two phones side by side and the GS just feels faster, sleeker and more responsive. I should add that I chose a Nexus device specifficaly because of the multitude of roms that were (are) available for it.
One thing I dislike in GS is the enormous screen. It just feels like an overkill for me. I'm content with the size NS provides.
One thing I dislike in NS is the touchscreen buttons order - I have amended that through remapping the buttons. For example the "menu" button is my "home" button. If you are left handed you should be fine and maybe you will not need to tinker with this.

[Q] Convince me to unlock

I'm trying to convince myself to unlock my week old Infinity. Obviously I'm worried about the warranty, but need to know if these symptoms I'm experiencing vanish with a custom ROM.
First, and I guess this is the io problem, but the general pausing I occasionally get while browsing, will that go away? Also the slow to pop up keyboard issue? Will the overall system be snappier? Does it somehow fix the slow io?
I guess I'm just trying to figure out exactly what a custom ROM will do for me and if it's worth it for me. I did read through the stickies at the top but didn't see anything specific.

If you feel this way, do it. But why? Are you missing apps?
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Why what, why do I want to unlock it? All the reasons I just outlined, it kinds a little annoying having to wait 5 seconds for the keyboard to pop up randomly, or the little stutters and halts when you browse as the page is loading. I just don't know for sure if there are ROMs out there that will take care of these for me, or if they fix the IO issue, or if that's even the culprit at all here.
I'm also running into a really annoying friggin typing issue here where it will double press keys, and when I go to backspace, it copies and pastes the word I'm trying to delete a line above where I am. I think it's only this forum, but it renders typing on the tablet here useless.

I unlocked because I was receiving the update notification for .30 and I wanted NvFlash access (which I would not be able to do after accepting the update). I now have a fully unbrickable, and fully flashable and downgradable tab. The biggest pain is that the updates don't work, but they can be downloaded from asus's website and flashed manually. Cleanrom as virtually free of the IO issue, and CM is slick all around.
Also try using an alternate keyboard such as swiftkey or hackers keyboard.

rightonred said:
I unlocked because I was receiving the update notification for .30 and I wanted NvFlash access (which I would not be able to do after accepting the update). I now have a fully unbrickable, and fully flashable and downgradable tab. The biggest pain is that the updates don't work, but they can be downloaded from asus's website and flashed manually. Cleanrom as virtually free of the IO issue, and CM is slick all around.
Also try using an alternate keyboard such as swiftkey or hackers keyboard.
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when you say free of the IO issue, have you tried transferring large files to the onboard storage (not SD)? iirc it was a hardware issue so no amount of software fix is going to fix it. IO issue != stuttering when browsing

Well, I'm pretty sure I'm going through with it, I'll probably wait a bit yet just to read up some more. I'll get the SquareTrade warranty with the 40% off coupon as soon as I figure out how to get the code just as a crutch/safety net, and I'm thinking of going with CleanROM Inheritance.
So, grabbed from David's thread earlier, this is the basic process:
Unlock
Reboot
Install Goo Manger
Install TWRP recovery
Reboot into recovery
Install ROM/Gapps
{PROFIT}!?
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Is there a thread somewhere that at least has screenshots as you start loading the ROMs, because I've never done that before and would like to just see what I'm going to be looking at first.

I was trying not to add in here...
As a one week old tablet owner I wouldn't let myself get drawn in too quickly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1965214&highlight=warranty
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1979655&highlight=warranty
The above threads talk about some bad luck.
I recommend trying another path to alleviate any minor performance issues.
Then again if you're compelled to to unlock and flash it is a great idea to read and read some more.
Spend some time learning about pitfalls and benefits.
I'm thinking one week is too soon.
That is unless you're very confident about tweaking.
*just a note:
Get familiar with some of the tools used for pushing updates outside of OTAs to your Android.
If not already...good luck!
Apologies about the long winded response...

Thats OK said:
I was trying not add in here...
As a one week old tablet owner I wouldn't let myself get drawn in too quickly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1965214&highlight=warranty
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1979655&highlight=warranty
The above threads talk about some bad luck.
I recommend trying another path to alleviate any minor performance issues.
Then again if you're compelled to to unlock and flash it is a great idea to read and read some more.
Spend some time learning about pitfalls and benefits.
I'm thinking one week is too soon.
That is unless you're very confident about tweaking.
*just a note:
Get familiar with some of the tools used for pushing updates outside of OTAs to your Android.
If not already...good luck!
Apologies about the long winded response...
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I hear what you're saying, but the SquareTrade warranties will still apply to unlocked devices, won't they? I plan on getting the 2 year from them just in case the **** hits the fan, I can get 40% off the normal price which puts it below $60. I think I read something here about them honoring the warranty even if the tablet gets bricked.
As far as the "other paths", what would they include? I rooted and froze some of the bloatware on here, I wasn't aware of anything else that could be done without unlocking. I'm used to tweaking everything computer related, I've just never done this before so if there's a thread that has a step by step with pictures so I don't go in blind that would be good. Even without the screens I'd be alright, I'll be sure to read up about it more.

berfles said:
I hear what you're saying, but the SquareTrade warranties will still apply to unlocked devices, won't they? I plan on getting the 2 year from them just in case the **** hits the fan, I can get 40% off the normal price which puts it below $60. I think I read something here about them honoring the warranty even if the tablet gets bricked.
As far as the "other paths", what would they include? I rooted and froze some of the bloatware on here, I wasn't aware of anything else that could be done without unlocking. I'm used to tweaking everything computer related, I've just never done this before so if there's a thread that has a step by step with pictures so I don't go in blind that would be good. Even without the screens I'd be alright, I'll be sure to read up about it more.
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http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDroidDemos/videos?query=tf700t
These vids from DroidDemos have helped me in the past.
You can also search the "TF201 and TF300T" vids on DD some of those procedures will be the same as the Infinity.
Other things to try would be stepping back to ICS from JB.
JellyBean has proven buggy for a number of tablet users.
Turning on GPU 2d rendering under settings.
Not using the stock browser try an alternative.
If your using the Asus keyboard try the original Android keyboard.
Use the Asus task manager to shut down recurring apps.
Turn down screen brightness.
Turn off Bluetooth.
Turn off GPS temporarily.
Good read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28427614&postcount=1
...and of course try the factory reset or wipe cache from a cold boot (Volume down + power button then do nothing and wait for reboot)
etc.
Now do some homework and have fun!

Thats OK said:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDroidDemos/videos?query=tf700t
These vids from DroidDemos have helped me in the past.
You can also search the "TF201 and TF300T" vids on DD some of those procedures will be the same as the Infinity.
Other things to try would be stepping back to ICS from JB.
JellyBean has proven buggy for a number of tablet users.
Turning on GPU 2d rendering under settings.
Not using the stock browser try an alternative.
If your using the Asus keyboard try the original Android keyboard.
Use the Asus task manager to shut down recurring apps.
Turn down screen brightness.
Turn off Bluetooth.
Turn off GPS temporarily.
Good read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28427614&postcount=1
...and of course try the factory reset or wipe cache from a cold boot (Volume down + power button then do nothing and wait for reboot)
etc.
Now do some homework and have fun!
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Thanks. I'm doing a lot of those already, I just enabled the GPU 2d rendering and my benchmark score shot way up on that front, not sure where I'll notice it in real world applications though. Why is it even disabled by default, seems like that's the way it should be from the get go.
I'll check the videos out and your other link.
Does anyone know about the SquareTrade warranty for sure?

berfles said:
I'm trying to convince myself to unlock my week old Infinity. Obviously I'm worried about the warranty, but need to know if these symptoms I'm experiencing vanish with a custom ROM.
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You'll have to do the convincing yourself.
First, and I guess this is the io problem, but the general pausing I occasionally get while browsing, will that go away?
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Depends on which browser you use. In most cases, it will improve considerably, but if you use the stock browser you can achieve the same effect with some tweaking (after rooting).
Also the slow to pop up keyboard issue?
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I hardly remove the dock. Is this a known issue??
Will the overall system be snappier?
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Yes, as this is a software issue.
Does it somehow fix the slow io?
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No, as this is hardware-related..
I guess I'm just trying to figure out exactly what a custom ROM will do for me and if it's worth it for me. I did read through the stickies at the top but didn't see anything specific.
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As I said, you'll have to do the convincing yourself, as that is a decision I have nothing to do with. Taking a swig of my own medicine - I unlocked at the first opportunity -- I'd say that the benefits are significant.
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berfles said:
Thanks. I'm doing a lot of those already, I just enabled the GPU 2d rendering and my benchmark score shot way up on that front, not sure where I'll notice it in real world applications though. Why is it even disabled by default, seems like that's the way it should be from the get go.
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Because a large minority of apps seem to have compatibility issues, causing them to force-close. Legacy reasons, in other words.
I'll check the videos out and your other link.
Does anyone know about the SquareTrade warranty for sure?
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As far as I have followed the discussions, the ST warranty has been used a few times.

rightonred said:
I unlocked because I was receiving the update notification for .30 and I wanted NvFlash access (which I would not be able to do after accepting the update).
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That was also the main motivation for me - the big decision if I want to be forever limited to what Asus provides, but with warranty and automatic upgrades, or if I want to take full control over my own tablet, with the risk of having to pay for hardware faults.
Knowing that I could not upgrade past 9.4.5.26 without either unlocking or forever losing full control over the bootloader forced me to decide. I still waited for a few weeks, then I finally unlocked, made the nvflash backups and upgraded to stock JB. After a few days I installed CleanROM. Not all lag issues went away, but I still think the experience is better than before.

Unlocking totally worth it for me
I've had my infinity for about 4 months now, I rooted a while back. I just recently unlocked and started using CleanRom Inheritance (now at version 2.5.5). I was always happy with the tablet, but had some of the issues you mentioned and after 4 months I figured what have i got to lose? (I also have a ST warranty)
★★ CleanROM 2.5.5 Inheritance | 10.4.4.20 | OC/UV Kernels | JB 4.1.1
I can tell you it's made QUITE a difference in the overall responsiveness and eliminated just about all of the stutters and pauses I thought was just a natural part of the infinity ecosystem. Check out the thread, check out the quadrant scores and see if it's something you'll find worthy of unlocking for. I'm very happy I did it. No regrets and I feel like I have a brand new tablet that performs the way it was supposed to all along.
The customizations built in to the Aroma installer alone is worth a look.
Matt

berfles said:
I'm trying to convince myself to unlock my week old Infinity. Obviously I'm worried about the warranty, but need to know if these symptoms I'm experiencing vanish with a custom ROM.
First, and I guess this is the io problem, but the general pausing I occasionally get while browsing, will that go away? Also the slow to pop up keyboard issue? Will the overall system be snappier? Does it somehow fix the slow io?
I guess I'm just trying to figure out exactly what a custom ROM will do for me and if it's worth it for me. I did read through the stickies at the top but didn't see anything specific.
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I think that it's important for you to state where you live (which continent).
Because if you live in Europe, you have nothing to fear. If you unlock your device, you cannot be held responsible for hardware (/production) issues. The repair centres will always replace anything for free the first 6 months after your purchase.
In the United States customer service will help you out as well, as long as you bought the device from a somewhat bigger and respectable store.
To be honest, unlocking the device is the best thing since sliced bread. It fixed a lot of issues and I can easily get above 6500 on Quandrant on the normal mode and I get 6900+ on performance mode.
Hope this helps you out

physicsguymatt said:
I've had my infinity for about 4 months now, I rooted a while back. I just recently unlocked and started using CleanRom Inheritance (now at version 2.5.5). I was always happy with the tablet, but had some of the issues you mentioned and after 4 months I figured what have i got to lose? (I also have a ST warranty)
★★ CleanROM 2.5.5 Inheritance | 10.4.4.20 | OC/UV Kernels | JB 4.1.1
I can tell you it's made QUITE a difference in the overall responsiveness and eliminated just about all of the stutters and pauses I thought was just a natural part of the infinity ecosystem. Check out the thread, check out the quadrant scores and see if it's something you'll find worthy of unlocking for. I'm very happy I did it. No regrets and I feel like I have a brand new tablet that performs the way it was supposed to all along.
The customizations built in to the Aroma installer alone is worth a look.
Matt
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Plus one on this. Tablet is a joy to use now!

sbdags said:
Plus one on this. Tablet is a joy to use now!
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Yeah, *we* love *your* ROM, too!

Thanks for the replies, lots to look at and go through. I looked through some of the CROMI thread and the last few pages had me a little worried, seemed people were having troubles but I didn't go back far enough to see if that was user error or what.
Once I do this, if I make it through the process without issue does that mean I'm out of the woods in terms of danger? I mean most issues people have occur when they're trying to flash a ROM, right? So if I get through that part it's not like something debilitating is going to pop up down the road out of the blue?

berfles said:
Thanks for the replies, lots to look at and go through. I looked through some of the CROMI thread and the last few pages had me a little worried, seemed people were having troubles but I didn't go back far enough to see if that was user error or what.
Once I do this, if I make it through the process without issue does that mean I'm out of the woods in terms of danger? I mean most issues people have occur when they're trying to flash a ROM, right? So if I get through that part it's not like something debilitating is going to pop up down the road out of the blue?
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If you got worried about the issues some people seem to have, just flash CleanROM 2.4 -- it won't be updated, but it was rock-stable. It seems that there is quite a bit of variability between our devices, as there have been lots of issues experienced by small numbers of users (sometimes even only one) that even Scott found hard to reproduce.
The riskiest thing you can do is flashing a bootloader -- even there, if done correctly, the risk is minimal, but at its highest point. Just flashing a ROM in itself doesn't carry that much of a risk at all -- you might end up with an OS that doesn't boot, but then you could always enter recovery, wipe date/factory reset and just flash an earlier version, or another ROM altogether. As long as you keep a working ROM .zip file handy for emergency flashing (I have one on my SGS2 that was amid-life ICS version of RootBox), you'll be able to save your bacon.
Oh... don't forget to get a good backup program *I'd suggest Titanium Backup Pro), and set a (preferably daily) schedule for the backups. That way, you won't lose more than the data modified since the last backup. That has worked out nicely for me the past few years.
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berfles said:
So if I get through that part it's not like something debilitating is going to pop up down the road out of the blue?
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Flashing a custom ROM will not make a hardware problem rear its ugly head. It would've been there before, so check for the known issues thoroughly. If OK, flash away.

Ive had my TF700 for awhile, always had it rooted but today unlocked it.
Took 10mins to get Teamwin and install liquid smooth.
I should of done this months ago, this rom let alone makes a huge difference in speed, plus the customization never ends.
DO IT

berfles said:
Thanks. I'm doing a lot of those already, I just enabled the GPU 2d rendering and my benchmark score shot way up on that front, not sure where I'll notice it in real world applications though. Why is it even disabled by default, seems like that's the way it should be from the get go.
I'll check the videos out and your other link.
Does anyone know about the SquareTrade warranty for sure?
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If you read term and condition, Square Trade will not cover unlocked bootloader. BTW, running custom rom will eliminated ALL your issues mentioned above. Your device will be fast and smooth just like the way it should be.