UK Not getting Octa Version - Cnet Source - Galaxy S 4 General

Apparently the UK is no longer getting the OCTA Version, according to CNET
Read here:
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-galaxy-s4-is-quad-core-in-the-uk-not-octa-core-50010712/
Thoughts?

AMDPOWERFIST said:
Apparently the UK is no longer getting the OCTA Version, according to CNET
Read here:
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-galaxy-s4-is-quad-core-in-the-uk-not-octa-core-50010712/
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Not getting Octa version is a great thing. You'll be unified with the US, and international LTE owners aka the majority. :laugh:

Livebyte said:
Not getting Octa version is a great thing. You'll be unified with the US, and international LTE owners aka the majority. :laugh:
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lol.... wrong
The Asian market for this phone will outsell both the US and UK combined.
So it will be a relatively even split.
US and UK get the Snapdragon version and the rest of the world gets the Octa version (assumption)

Livebyte said:
Not getting Octa version is a great thing. You'll be unified with the US, and international LTE owners aka the majority. :laugh:
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It's the GPU I care about most, not buying a snapdragon s4 when's it's not much better than an HTC one
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AMDPOWERFIST said:
lol.... wrong
The Asian market for this phone will outsell both the US and UK combined.
So it will be a relatively even split.
US and UK get the Snapdragon version and the rest of the world gets the Octa version (assumption)
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Where do most developers come from?
And if I was a game developer which version do you think I will want to develop more?
Duh. US and UK versions. The markets that matter.
Plus the homeland of Samsung is getting Snapdragon version in all their carriers.
My country, Singapore is also getting the Snapdragon version.

Livebyte said:
Where do most developers come from?
And if I was a game developer which version do you think I will want to develop more?
Duh. US and UK versions. The markets that matter.
Plus the homeland of Samsung is getting Snapdragon version in all their carriers.
My country, Singapore is also getting the Snapdragon version.
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LOL the markets that matter.... are the markets that sell the most... Asian markets will sell far more than the US and UK markets...
Just because the US and UK are predominately english speaking countries and have alot of people in those countries, doesnt make them the only markets that matter...

AMDPOWERFIST said:
LOL the markets that matter.... are the markets that sell the most... Asian markets will sell far more than the US and UK markets...
Just because the US and UK are predominately english speaking countries and have alot of people in those countries, doesnt make them the only markets that matter...
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True. Also, there are plenty of Asian XDA developers and app developers. Just look at forums for other devices.
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1337RYoN said:
True. Also, there are plenty of Asian XDA developers and app developers. Just look at forums for other devices.
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Theres THOUSANDS of Asian developers...
Just because they arent all on XDA froums doesnt mean they arent on their own forums.
I dont read chinese, but if you do a quick google search, many pop up...
Simple closed minded people thinking the UK and US are the only countries in the world...

AMDPOWERFIST said:
Theres THOUSANDS of Asian developers...
Just because they arent all on XDA froums doesnt mean they arent on their own forums.
I dont read chinese, but if you do a quick google search, many pop up...
Simple closed minded people thinking the UK and US are the only countries in the world...
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I am from Singapore dude, an Asian?
Look here, I'm just trying to help.
I don't need take any insults from you.
The only time Exynos-variety will be majority is when Note 3 is out.
Happy waiting~
EDIT: Also, I'm chinese.

Livebyte said:
I am from Singapore dude, an Asian?
Look here, I'm just trying to help.
I don't need take any insults from you.
The only time Exynos-variety will be majority is when Note 3 is out.
Happy waiting~
EDIT: Also, I'm chinese.
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I wasn't insulting you.
I was stating facts.
Even if your chinese and from singapore, why would you think that the US and UK are the biggest and therefore the only important markets on the planet? When clearly the Asian markets outweigh those 2 combined by a fact of something like 3 to 1... or 66% higher (when it comes to overall sales records)
Anyways, enough bickering about which markets are more important than others, and back to which countries are actually going to get the Octa Processor version.

AMDPOWERFIST said:
I wasn't insulting you.
I was stating facts.
Even if your chinese and from singapore, why would you think that the US and UK are the biggest and therefore the only important markets on the planet? When clearly the Asian markets outweigh those 2 combined by a fact of something like 3 to 1... or 66% higher (when it comes to overall sales records)
Anyways, enough bickering about which markets are more important than others, and back to which countries are actually going to get the Octa Processor version.
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Can u provide figures to back this up?
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As for which countries are getting octa check info thread the last couple links
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AMDPOWERFIST said:
I wasn't insulting you.
I was stating facts.
Even if your chinese and from singapore, why would you think that the US and UK are the biggest and therefore the only important markets on the planet? When clearly the Asian markets outweigh those 2 combined by a fact of something like 3 to 1... or 66% higher (when it comes to overall sales records)
Anyways, enough bickering about which markets are more important than others, and back to which countries are actually going to get the Octa Processor version.
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I don't know. I've been reading too much The Verge & Engadget I guess.
Well, sorry for my misjudgement.
Any country that doesn't have LTE.
But if I'm not wrong, not all carriers in UK have LTE right?
It means there should I9500 right?

There's a positive and negative to this.
The obvious negative is we won't get to use the new more powerful A15 big.little architecture chip.
The positive however is the Qualcomm chip will have all the sources. Which means CM10, etc. should be alot easier to port to the GS4. Assuming they chose to support it.
I was personally looking forward to the A15 version. I'll probably wait and see what the Nexus 5 will offer now.

TingTingin said:
Can u provide figures to back this up?
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As for which countries are getting octa check info thread the last couple links
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Certainly, those are rough off the top of my head figures, but ill try and find the article that i read. Gimmie a few mins

AMDPOWERFIST said:
Certainly, those are rough off the top of my head figures, but ill try and find the article that i read. Gimmie a few mins
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Reason I ask is that your most likely to find android as being popular but no specifics as to the galaxy s line
The iPhone is most popular in the US while in every other region android dominates yet that's enough for Apple to be the most profitable company in the world though Apple doesn't make all its money from actual selling of iPhone but that has to say something about the US smartphone market
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Livebyte said:
I don't know. I've been reading too much The Verge & Engadget I guess.
Well, sorry for my misjudgement.
Any country that doesn't have LTE.
But if I'm not wrong, not all carriers in UK have LTE right?
It means there should I9500 right?
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I'm not sure about LTE
But the article I read stated that UK will get both versions of the s4
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TingTingin said:
Reason I ask is that your most likely to find android as being popular but no specifics as to the galaxy s line
The iPhone is most popular in the US while in every other region android dominates yet that's enough for Apple to be the most profitable company in the world though Apple doesn't make all its money from actual selling of iPhone but that has to say something about the US smartphone market
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I cant find the exact article i read the other day, but it was something around those figures. This is including the fact that Australia and India are also classified as "Asia-pacific" region and classified in the Asian market figures also.
Heres 2 articles i found while trying to find the one with exact figures, stating that Samsung is going heavily after the Asian markets:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...o-hit-asia-at-same-time-as-rest-of-the-world/
"Asia is a key market for Samsung, particularly in Hong Kong and Singapore. In more emerging markets, like Thailand, Samsung's lower priced devices are more popular. "
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/the-...atest-target-samsung-galaxy-s4-212949565.html
"Samsung all but took over control of the Chinese smartphone market last year, trouncing both Nokia and Apple with more than 30 million units sold."
Sorry i'll keep looking though.

Vertron said:
There's a positive and negative to this.
The obvious negative is we won't get to use the new more powerful A15 big.little architecture chip.
The positive however is the Qualcomm chip will have all the sources. Which means CM10, etc. should be alot easier to port to the GS4. Assuming they chose to support it.
I was personally looking forward to the A15 version. I'll probably wait and see what the Nexus 5 will offer now.
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But Krait 300 (for Snapdragon 600) is literally a modified A15 core. On the S4 Pro and Dual core (Krait 200) it was a mix of A9 and A15. So generally, you will still experience the A15 performance with better battery.

AMDPOWERFIST said:
I cant find the exact article i read the other day, but it was something around those figures. This is including the fact that Australia and India are also classified as "Asia-pacific" region and classified in the Asian market figures also.
Heres 2 articles i found while trying to find the one with exact figures, stating that Samsung is going heavily after the Asian markets:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...o-hit-asia-at-same-time-as-rest-of-the-world/
"Asia is a key market for Samsung, particularly in Hong Kong and Singapore. In more emerging markets, like Thailand, Samsung's lower priced devices are more popular. "
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As I suspected galaxy s3 isn't lower priced they also referred to Asia as an emerging market meaning is not as large
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/the-...atest-target-samsung-galaxy-s4-212949565.html
"Samsung all but took over control of the Chinese smartphone market last year, trouncing both Nokia and Apple with more than 30 million units sold."
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30 million is how much they sold totally (article written in March) in all regions not in Asia
Sorry i'll keep looking though.
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I was trying to point out there's little data on galaxy s popularity in particular regions and based on the facts we do have it makes more sense to assume US and UK are a larger markets
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TingTingin said:
I was trying to point out there's little data on galaxy s popularity in particular regions and based on the facts we do have it makes more sense to assume US and UK are a larger markets
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Good assumptions, but theres a huge difference in population between US and UK vs Asia-pacific regions....
The 2 biggest population countries in the world are India (1,241,491,960) and China (1,344,130,000), with a total of 2.6 billion vs population of US (313,914,040) and UK (62,641,000) total 377 million...
This is also excluding from the Asia-Pacific markets other Asian countries such as Singapore (5,183,700), Indonesia (242,325,638), Australia (22,620,600) etc etc
Estimated that a total of 4.2 billion people live in the Asia-Pacific region according to stats released in 2010 (Source)
And considering that the worlds TOTAL population is only 6,973,738,433 (so roughly 7 billion)
I would assume much of the sales would be consumed in this region compared to JUST the US and UK which consists of only 5.3% of the total worlds population... where as the Asia-Pacific region consists of 60% of the total worlds population...
Now given their economic stance of the US vs UK i can totally understand that the price of this phone is out of reach of a huge portion of the Asia-Pacific regions, but they still have the numbers to purchase far more units than anywhere else on the planet.
But we'll have to wait and see how it goes, because its all still speculation, even the article i read was speculation. At best we can estimate how many units COULD be sold, based on previous market sales of there previous products, such as the S3 or Note 2 etc and even then, the S4 has far more marketing than either of those products combined.
Estimated sales figures from these types of stats though, does show promising results for their 100million estiamted sales targets:
"Galaxy S4 has received four times as many registrations as the Galaxy S3 did last year -- a 446 per cent increase."
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/gal...tered-phone-ever-uk-retailer-boasts-50010710/

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Android phones from China.

Hi!
Im planning to buy a new phone, but for me the good ones are too expensive, so I thought I'd give a try a China phone. But are they reliable? I know they can break very fast but maybe there is a sort of good manufacturer. Right now I'm looking at Zopo ZP100 with 1Ghz CPU and stuff, are those any good?
Also what are reliable stores to buy these from? There are some phones like this on Ebay, but I dont know really.
DustyLv said:
Hi!
Im planning to buy a new phone, but for me the good ones are too expensive, so I thought I'd give a try a China phone. But are they reliable? I know they can break very fast but maybe there is a sort of good manufacturer. Right now I'm looking at Zopo ZP100 with 1Ghz CPU and stuff, are those any good?
Also what are reliable stores to buy these from? There are some phones like this on Ebay, but I dont know really.
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No way dude!I would never do it.done it before with some electronic stuff from China (like the legendary sciphone!Lol what a piece of **** it was!!) I would rather save some money and buy a phone when I can afford it,or buy a used phone over eBay
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He's right.. save your money and buy a proper phone.
Some Chinese developers have stolen Android and sold it as their own OS. I had a friend from China come to America as an exchange student with an Android phone that was called something else.
The Meizu Android Phones Are Great
I am Chinese, I bought my phone from this website, it is famous in China, but I do not know if it support English.
You could search 360buy with google
What the .. ?
First of all - China does not equal ****. Even their unbranded products got quality boost from the recent. Small companies are making their products with almost the western standard and they are pushing through.
ZTE is a company from Shenzhen, China, That has it's range of Android phones that are pretty good, and by the way - they now have more money than Samsung and Apple
Here is a nice example of how chinese phones need not to be total crap:
http://www.malata.com/en/product_detail.aspx?classid=700&id=149
I had the opportunity to check out Malata products with my own hands & eyes and I can tell you that their tablets look better than western makret tablets.
now tell me - is anything wrong with this phone .. ? cant find the price at the moment but I guarantee that it is 1/2 cheaper than new SGS2.
Check the Ainovo or Ainol. They are made in China and cheaper.
Thanks for the many replies!
But seriously? The SciPhone? It is too crappy even when not comparing it to other China smartphones, you should check out the specs first.
That Malata phone looks nice and quite powerful.
Any info on the Zopo ZP100?
I wouldn't doubt they make quality products (after all Foxconn has the largest force of electronics assembly personal the planet has ever seen) but how about that warranty?
Get some ZTE. Or something like that.
Chinese phones tend to have max 4 hours standby.
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China also has their own better phone brands, iphone is produced in China,too. Difference is they don't have their own IOS. But this is not important, because android can be used freely. THL is a new phone brand, a ittle like HTC, you can check it out here http://www.tinydeal.com/thl-40-android-pxqd4o-p-52158.html or you can google it. Worth to buy.
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I took a look at their phones, and the only thing that isn't great is the processor but that can always be overclocked. I'd buy one just to see how it performs.
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swbf2lord said:
Some Chinese developers have stolen Android and sold it as their own OS. I had a friend from China come to America as an exchange student with an Android phone that was called something else.
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Android is Free is it not?
There seems to be a lot of HTC clones on the chinese market.
After reading some posts on the internet and here about these kind of phones I think I might give them a chance after all. I mean theyre cheap, I could buy another one if it breaks.
But the question now is, where to buy one? Which are good shops that wont screw you over?
Meizu
I have to say the Meizu is a good one.
My cousin got one from china and I´ve got it in my hands.
It seems to be a powerful phone w/ fair quality.
All thing working properly, just some issues with the wifi sometimes.
Maybe I´ll get one for my son in the future...
hi
but i think the china phone QC is not good
wwweh said:
There seems to be a lot of HTC clones on the chinese market.
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Eh HTC Produces Alot Of Their 'Clones' For The Chinese Markets
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Igoritza said:
What the .. ?
First of all - China does not equal ****. Even their unbranded products got quality boost from the recent. Small companies are making their products with almost the western standard and they are pushing through.
ZTE is a company from Shenzhen, China, That has it's range of Android phones that are pretty good, and by the way - they now have more money than Samsung and Apple
Here is a nice example of how chinese phones need not to be total crap:
http://www.malata.com/en/product_detail.aspx?classid=700&id=149
I had the opportunity to check out Malata products with my own hands & eyes and I can tell you that their tablets look better than western makret tablets.
now tell me - is anything wrong with this phone .. ? cant find the price at the moment but I guarantee that it is 1/2 cheaper than new SGS2.
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No They Don't
Yes they do Value of a company is not estimated via pure financials but with estimation of market, realestate, workload, location ... ZTE has been a player for more than 20 years in China selling network euipment and their manufacture department is 5-6x bigger than any other company, and they also hold many many departments that do not go into fiscal calculation but still earn a shi*load of money.
they are also suppliers for more than 20 companies and their official sales are less than 10% of total earning.
and for the final conclusion, do the math yourself:
Apple/foxcon - 33.000 workers
ZTE - 90.000 workers
they all work in china where everyone on the same position is payed pretty much the same cash. How come ?
sarahbaby said:
I am Chinese, I bought my phone from this website, it is famous in China, but I do not know if it support English.
You could search 360buy with google
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most smartphone should comes with multi languages support

Motorola shuts down its operations in Asia region

See this link...now I start ti hate motorola
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_shuts_down_operations_in_asia_pacific-news-4712.php
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It was coming. They've failed miserably in the region.
Since quite some time in India, their phones have not been available for sale in brick and mortar stores. For some reason they've been a flop here.
It's a shame really. Their hardware is second to none. With proper software, including update policies, and good marketing, they could have eaten competition for breakfast.
WTF!!
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So no more updates for SEARET??
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athani said:
It was coming. They've failed miserably in the region.
Since quite some time in India, their phones have not been available for sale in brick and mortar stores. For some reason they've been a flop here.
It's a shame really. Their hardware is second to none. With proper software, including update policies, and good marketing, they could have eaten competition for breakfast.
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You are right bro... i feel local brand like micromax is far better than moto on india...i have made a mistake by going for moto..i will never do that again.
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WTF!!
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Now i really doubt if they release ICS OTA...better switch to another brand
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Now i really doubt if they release ICS OTA...better switch to another brand
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But Korea comes under searet??
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Has anybody opened Motorola India's 'fan' page on FB, I did and it was more of 'toofan' page than anything else, LOL!
and interesting enough i have posted this on their wall:
"Having seen the comments here on FB, I would suggest you either to 1. Change the service provider or 2. Close down your FB fan page."
and they have gone a step further, I guess, closing the entire operations.
One good thing is that reportedly "they will be providing service to the existing customers" and that doesnt matter as redington will still be in charge of that care!
Looking back, my first mobile ever was a Motorola, a C350 in 2003 when mobile phones with color screen were still considered premium in india, instead of many available brands and models I went ahead and bought a moto, result? Terribly disappointed.
And after almost a decade, I did the same mistake again, call me stupid!
Are their products bad in India? No, I have spoken with many people regarding Motorola and sum up the conversations with this quote from a store sales guy:
"Motorola mobiles are great, until you find a problem in it."
When asked to elaborate he said, the after sales is terrible, and here in India when you find a problem with your mobile, they rush the store where they bought it, the store directs them to the service center. But with the service so good, the stores started to ignore Moto products, and here is the end result.
I have said these things from a perceptive of a common user not from our point of view, the tech buffs who need their mobile to be running on latest OS or wanted the bootloader to be unlocked, If I start there, there will be more bashing.
PS: On their FB page, they have posted some 'exciting' news, that they were going to release Electrify 2 in India! So any taker out there?
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PS: On their FB page, they have posted some 'exciting' news, that they were going to release Electrify 2 in India! So any taker out there?
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Electrify 2 has same hardware as Atrix 2 !! except display (which is not so good in A2 because of yellowish tint)
i hope moto survive in INDIA ...... so far i haven't faced any problem regarding hardware/software (forget abt xperimentin) ..... yeah m talkin abt STOCK h/w & s/w
n i still believe i made a good desicion buyin A2 than GSII :victory:
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Electrify 2 has same hardware as Atrix 2 !! except display (which is not so good in A2 because of yellowish tint)
i hope moto survive in INDIA ...... so far i haven't faced any problem regarding hardware/software (forget abt xperimentin) ..... yeah m talkin abt STOCK h/w & s/w
n i still believe i made a good desicion buyin A2 than GSII :victory:
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Yup same here..atrix 2 is one of the very best phones in market and never regret buying it..moto will return once they become profitable again i hope
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shardul.phatak said:
Electrify 2 has same hardware as Atrix 2 !! except display (which is not so good in A2 because of yellowish tint)
i hope moto survive in INDIA ...... so far i haven't faced any problem regarding hardware/software (forget abt xperimentin) ..... yeah m talkin abt STOCK h/w & s/w
n i still believe i made a good desicion buyin A2 than GSII :victory:
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Yeah, the display is an issue, mine has a dull spot in the middle of the display and only visible when there is a grey background, came to know that this is evident in AT&T's A2 more, and heard those guys saying they get it replaced when they see a dull spot, we? we don't, specially now that they stopped producing A2s and even if they replace they will give us a refurbished one rather than new, why take risk, I can live with that dull spot, in fact I have many in my life itself,
and coming to the hardware, I have already said this and probably say 1000 times that I am really happy with the hardware and the general processing power of this mobile, and I have already quoted that I hate SGS II for two reasong 1. Touchwiz and 2. Poor build quality, yeah we can simply get rid of the touchwiz interface with custom launchers but the build quality?? we cant do, other than may be putting it into an otterbox.
I will consider all good, if moto does unlock the bootloader, it will open up the world of opportunities, JB, Keylime prime or whatever we want (speculation!!). Or simply a good bye gift ICS!!
Electify 2?? it is a child of Droid Razr and Atrix 2, it will be interesting to see how they promote it, as a world phone or as a TATA INDICOM CDMA or Reliance CDMA only mobile.
UPDATE: Motorola Mobility has reached out to us with an official statement.
Although we are consolidating about a third of our facilities globally, and slimming our operation in India as you reported, we continue to have a significant presence in several key markets in Asia-Pacific in addition to Korea and Australia. This includes, among others, mainland China, which remains one of our main R&D hubs (and where I am based). We should be able to share more information once we’re further through the reorganization process, but Asia-Pacific is an important part of Motorola Mobility’s future.
We know you've heard a lot about the changes at Motorola Mobility. We'll continue to honor our warranties and provide support. Here are the various hotlines should you need technical assistance for our products.
Singapore
Product Inquiry Hotline 800 186 1097
(Mon-Sat 8.30am to 5.30pm)
Malaysia
Product Inquiry Hotline 1900 806 506
(Mon-Sat 8.30am to 5.30pm)
Indonesia
Product Inquiry Hotline (021) 530 9532
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Thailand
Product Inquiry Hotline 0 2351 8666
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matthew5025 said:
UPDATE: Motorola Mobility has reached out to us with an official statement.
Although we are consolidating about a third of our facilities globally, and slimming our operation in India as you reported, we continue to have a significant presence in several key markets in Asia-Pacific in addition to Korea and Australia. This includes, among others, mainland China, which remains one of our main R&D hubs (and where I am based). We should be able to share more information once we’re further through the reorganization process, but Asia-Pacific is an important part of Motorola Mobility’s future.
We know you've heard a lot about the changes at Motorola Mobility. We'll continue to honor our warranties and provide support. Here are the various hotlines should you need technical assistance for our products.
Singapore
Product Inquiry Hotline 800 186 1097
(Mon-Sat 8.30am to 5.30pm)
Malaysia
Product Inquiry Hotline 1900 806 506
(Mon-Sat 8.30am to 5.30pm)
Indonesia
Product Inquiry Hotline (021) 530 9532
(Mon-Fri 8am to 5pm)
Thailand
Product Inquiry Hotline 0 2351 8666
(Mon-Fri 8.30am to 5.30pm)
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[Q] Why is Everything More Expensive in Asia?

Hi everyone,
I'm living in Thailand right now. Before I came here I was lucky enough to pick up the Nexus 7 (2012) 32 GB for around $230 at the time at Office Depot. I erroneously thought that electronics would be cheaper here because I would be closer to the source of production, Korea, Japan, and Taiwan for example.
However, it's pretty impossible to find a Google Nexus device out here. When I do find them they are usually $100 over what you would pay in the States at least. It seems like a lot of people buy Samsung tablets and phones out here but the prices are the same as Apple. A 2012 Nexus 7 would cost as much as the iPad Mini out here. I haven't even seen a store with the 2013 version available.
So why is this? Asus and LG are both companies located in Asia, but they pay maybe twice as much in some cases for something I could get in the States. Meanwhile Apple stuff is pretty similarly priced.
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So why is this? .
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yes this is the norm in ASIA and third world countries, they basically try to claim government taxes and duties are at fault but I would assume the importers and middlemen also have a higher percentage and since there is no control as this would be considered a luxury item...prices are always on the high end compared to States and Europe. At times it looks so ridiculous that even at such steep prices, they are in demand and NO one really complains about it. . just my two cents
Check this out! You , YES! you are an " Android ". Not your phone but U.​
This is because of government taxes
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2GB vs 3GB

How important is the 2GB vs 3GB conundrum. Will there be a noticeable improvement or is it merely future proofing?
I ordered the 2/16 UL-00 and it performs great
Hi,
If you're not a gamer, I believe 2/16 is good enough. I was looking for it's huge screen, big battery and stylish build.
attached an UNTUTU. it works flawlessly with everything i put on. it has great power consumption tool, which let you know about applications in background which consumes more energy and an easy way to control it. also 4G is working in Israel.
I took the 2/16 just because the bling gold color and i don't regret.
If you're a gamer - check another opinion.
cheers,
MosheDrori said:
Hi,
If you're not a gamer, I believe 2/16 is good enough. I was looking for it's huge screen, big battery and stylish build.
attached an UNTUTU. it works flawlessly with everything i put on. it has great power consumption tool, which let you know about applications in background which consumes more energy and an easy way to control it. also 4G is working in Israel.
I took the 2/16 just because the bling gold color and i don't regret.
If you're a gamer - check another opinion.
cheers,
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I'm not a gamer really, no. I don't have time to play games lol.
So you think the 2GB might be a good compromise? I'm torn right now.
skezza said:
I'm not a gamer really, no. I don't have time to play games lol.
So you think the 2GB might be a good compromise? I'm torn right now.
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not compromise - its great for non gamers.
the disturbing is some Chines characters and apps, you can easily solve.
I can't tell about camera much.
the worry is about community and android version upgrade policy of Huawei
MosheDrori said:
not compromise - its great for non gamers.
the disturbing is some Chines characters and apps, you can easily solve.
I can't tell about camera much.
the worry is about community and android version upgrade policy of Huawei
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Software issues do not bother me so much but obviously the RAM issue does.
The upgrade policy of Huawei will be interesting, but I imagine they will have to provide a couple of updates at least.
Very agree with @MosheDrori
For everyday/business use, 2 GB RAM version is good enough. The EU version is sold at a very attractive price on Amazon France. If you are a frequent traveler, consider the Chinese TL00 UL00 Model which gives you an additional SIM slot, a great advantage if you are doing intercontinental business.
In the long run, 3 GB RAM is necessary. The APPS today consumes more RAM than ever and you will notice a difference. A real advantage is that, HUAWEI will release an OTA (beta test version we heard) this month, featuring dual-Android systems, and it is only intended for the 3 GB RAM premium version.
For software/system upgrade in the future, HUAWEI did not do very well in the past and we agree there are such concerns. A few DEV teams are building customized ROM for this machine and the life will be extended, sort of.
getmobilephone said:
Very agree with @MosheDrori
For everyday/business use, 2 GB RAM version is good enough. The EU version is sold at a very attractive price on Amazon France. If you are a frequent traveler, consider the Chinese TL00 UL00 Model which gives you an additional SIM slot, a great advantage if you are doing intercontinental business.
In the long run, 3 GB RAM is necessary. The APPS today consumes more RAM than ever and you will notice a difference. A real advantage is that, HUAWEI will release an OTA (beta test version we heard) this month, featuring dual-Android systems, and it is only intended for the 3 GB RAM premium version.
For software/system upgrade in the future, HUAWEI did not do very well in the past and we agree there are such concerns. A few DEV teams are building customized ROM for this machine and the life will be extended, sort of.
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OK. I think I will go for the 3GB version, but I may wait a few weeks for it to come down in price. I assume the prices are very high right now due to lack of stock.
This doesn't look too bad cost wise:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Huawei-As...12957?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones&hash=item339886f2fd
skezza said:
OK. I think I will go for the 3GB version, but I may wait a few weeks for it to come down in price. I assume the prices are very high right now due to lack of stock.
This doesn't look too bad cost wise:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Huawei-As...12957?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones&hash=item339886f2fd
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In China, that price can barely get one an unit of 2/16 version. That's all we can tell you about.
getmobilephone said:
In China, that price can barely get one an unit of 2/16 version. That's all we can tell you about.
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So you believe this seller is fake. OK, will take note.
Are the prices likely to fall?
skezza said:
So you believe this seller is fake. OK, will take note.
Are the prices likely to fall?
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Keep watching our price. Ours reflect the market situation in China.
skezza said:
So you believe this seller is fake. OK, will take note.
Are the prices likely to fall?
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Yes, the prices will decrease. In Pakistan the expected price of 16/2gb is aroud 500 USD. Where as on vmall.com(Huawei store official) its price is similar. Also in Cambodia state its price is 470$. In hongkong its price is also about 500 USD.
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Keep watching our price. Ours reflect the market situation in China.
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OK cool. I'm still tempted by this product, it's just rather expensive.
Do you expect them to fall in a month?
hannanzikrea said:
Yes, the prices will decrease. In Pakistan the expected price of 16/2gb is aroud 500 USD. Where as on vmall.com(Huawei store official) its price is similar. Also in Cambodia state its price is 470$. In hongkong its price is also about 500 USD.
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For 16GB or 32GB?
@skezza
We DISLIKE HUAWEI's hungry sale! We DISLIKE any kind of hungry sale. It is close to holiday season and there is rarely a competitor out there in the market now.The price of the premium version likely will not come down in a month.
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hannanzikrea said:
Yes, the prices will decrease. In Pakistan the expected price of 16/2gb is aroud 500 USD. Where as on vmall.com(Huawei store official) its price is similar. Also in Cambodia state its price is 470$. In hongkong its price is also about 500 USD.
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Yes, but it is not open for sale. You cannot add the item to the shopping basket, can you?
Let us give the true answer. HUAWEI release a very small quantity on their website, opening for sale on a certain time and a certain date, and the stock is swiped in 2-10 seconds. The real story is, they have enough stock and release it slowly to us, aka authorized vendors, at a significantly marked up price. We then sell the units to our customers, who deposit with us for a week or so. In this way, the machine is continuously labeled as the hottest machine in the market and the sale's price can stay strong for months, until a better machine is out there, which can compete with Mate 7! Is there such a machine there? Maybe, when Galaxy S6 is released or something else.
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Add one more note:
For the past holiday (900 M USD of online sales generated in two days in China!!!), consumers can buy the Mate 7 under the condition that they buy accessories (i.e., noise canceling headphones, ~100 USD value) or Honor 6 (another HUAWEI phone, over 200 USD value) at the same time, on HUAWEI's official website, AND it is supplied as limited. Wanna buy a Mate 7 alone? No way at MSRP.
Unfortunately, more and more manufactures choose the hungry sale nowadays.
getmobilephone said:
@skezza
We DISLIKE HUAWEI's hungry sale! We DISLIKE any kind of hungry sale. It is close to holiday season and there is rarely a competitor out there in the market now.The price of the premium version likely will not come down in a month.
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Yes, but it is not open for sale. You cannot add the item to the shopping basket, can you?
Let us give the true answer. HUAWEI release a very small quantity on their website, opening for sale on a certain time and a certain date, and the stock is swiped in 2-10 seconds. The real story is, they have enough stock and release it slowly to us, aka authorized vendors, at a significantly marked up price. We then sell the units to our customers, who deposit with us for a week or so. In this way, the machine is continuously labeled as the hottest machine in the market and the sale's price can stay strong for months, until a better machine is out there, which can compete with Mate 7! Is there such a machine there? Maybe, when Galaxy S6 is released or something else.
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Add one more note:
For the past holiday (900 M USD of online sales generated in two days in China!!!), consumers can buy the Mate 7 under the condition that they buy accessories (i.e., noise canceling headphones, ~100 USD value) or Honor 6 (another HUAWEI phone, over 200 USD value) at the same time, on HUAWEI's official website, AND it is supplied as limited. Wanna buy a Mate 7 alone? No way at MSRP.
Unfortunately, more and more manufactures choose the hungry sale nowadays.
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Yeah, hunger market strategy is only good for manufacturers and not for us customers and it all started with Xiaomi....
And after seeing Xiaomi sales more manufacturers are adopting it.
hannanzikrea said:
Yeah, hunger market strategy is only good for manufacturers and not for us customers and it all started with Xiaomi....
And after seeing Xiaomi sales more manufacturers are adopting it.
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The underlying conflicts, there is no law to prohibit them doing such. Even underlying conflicts, we would reserve the opinions for ourselves.
Anyway, come to us if we can meet your needs.
getmobilephone said:
Very agree with @MosheDrori
For everyday/business use, 2 GB RAM version is good enough. The EU version is sold at a very attractive price on Amazon France. If you are a frequent traveler, consider the Chinese TL00 UL00 Model which gives you an additional SIM slot, a great advantage if you are doing intercontinental business.
In the long run, 3 GB RAM is necessary. The APPS today consumes more RAM than ever and you will notice a difference. A real advantage is that, HUAWEI will release an OTA (beta test version we heard) this month, featuring dual-Android systems, and it is only intended for the 3 GB RAM premium version.
For software/system upgrade in the future, HUAWEI did not do very well in the past and we agree there are such concerns. A few DEV teams are building customized ROM for this machine and the life will be extended, sort of.
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Hi,
sounds good, but what is meant with 'dual-Android systems'? Will there be a dual boot kernel like we have it on several other devices (note 2 for example)?
Greetz
@pappschlumpf We have not much detail about that. The internal beta test in underway by selected users (i.e., a confidentiality contract signed) and an open beta test will open to the general public in this month, then official OTA in December.
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And a note to xda member that @pappschlumpf is a member of awesome DEV teams who is building a customized ROM for MATE 7. Let's count on their team.:good:
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@pappschlumpf We have not much detail about that. The internal beta test in underway by selected users (i.e., a confidentiality contract signed) and an open beta test will open to the general public in this month, then official OTA in December.
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And a note to xda member that @pappschlumpf is a member of awesome DEV teams who is building a customized ROM for MATE 7. Let's count on their team.:good:
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I'll try to build a custom AOSP ROM if i could get all needed information and sources My golden mate arrives on the weekend We'll see.
Where i could ask for beeing a beta tester?
@pappschlumpf that is selected by HUAWEI directly right now. Open beta test will be announced sometime this month and will drop you a note then. Thanks your contribution!

Will US Carriers Supply the Honor 8?

I'm due for an upgrade.
Will US Carriers sell the Honor 8 or will it strictly be available through Hauwei's online suppliers?
No, they will not.
"Honor 8 is going up for pre-order tomorrow for $399 for the 32GB model and $449 for the 64GB model, and it will be available at Amazon, Best Buy, B&H Photo and HiHonor.com. This is an unlocked smartphone, and is not heading to any carriers, unfortunately. However, the Honor 8 will work on both AT&T and T-Mobile here in the US."
Source: Android Headlines
Christopher11 said:
No, they will not.
"Honor 8 is going up for pre-order tomorrow for $399 for the 32GB model and $449 for the 64GB model, and it will be available at Amazon, Best Buy, B&H Photo and HiHonor.com. This is an unlocked smartphone, and is not heading to any carriers, unfortunately. However, the Honor 8 will work on both AT&T and T-Mobile here in the US."
Source: Android Headlines
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I can corroborate this. Honor is all about selling online, and so like the 5X, the 8 is available unlocked and not through carriers.
Like svetius stated, I guess it will be sold online (meaning it won't be sold through carriers, forever)
The preorder went live yesterday, with 50 dollar in credits. The 32gb (399) will become 349 and the 64gb (449) will be 399..not bad at all
tiguy99 said:
I'm due for an upgrade.
Will US Carriers sell the Honor 8 or will it strictly be available through Hauwei's online suppliers?
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Does it matter? The carriers only charge a middle man fee anyways.
It is better to have it unlocked rather than carrier-locked (you know: bloatware, slower updates...etc)
This phone is only being sold as unlocked (GSM only) through their website and some retailers such as Best Buy, Newegg, and others.
With a locked bootloader and no source code for the Kirin processor, there is a very good chance there won't be any extra (XDA) development for this phone.
jim262 said:
With a locked bootloader and no source code for the Kirin processor, there is a very good chance there won't be any extra (XDA) development for this phone.
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There is also a good chance there will be I know xda is putting the hammer down on Honor to provide us EVERYTHING we need to make development!
Just stay tone
Christopher11 said:
No, they will not.
"Honor 8 is going up for pre-order tomorrow for $399 for the 32GB model and $449 for the 64GB model, and it will be available at Amazon, Best Buy, B&H Photo and HiHonor.com. This is an unlocked smartphone, and is not heading to any carriers, unfortunately. However, the Honor 8 will work on both AT&T and T-Mobile here in the US."
Source: Android Headlines
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Now wheres the 64gb version at =\ I want that model not the 32gb.
It will be in their best interest to have ROMS etc for this phone....
This could be the killer handset of the year if they play their cards right.
It has so much going for it
tiguy99 said:
It will be in their best interest to have ROMS etc for this phone....
This could be the killer handset of the year if they play their cards right.
It has so much going for it
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It seems this development will happn (Honor and XDA's partnership).
And yeah this will be a beast running pure android nougat.
tiguy99 said:
It will be in their best interest to have ROMS etc for this phone....
This could be the killer handset of the year if they play their cards right.
It has so much going for it
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XDA is pushing forward in making that happens. More developer friendly + friendly developer = greatness for everyone (Honor included)
taphius said:
Now wheres the 64gb version at =\ I want that model not the 32gb.
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It seems is not in supply for now.
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mgbotoe said:
XDA is pushing forward in making that happens. More developer friendly + friendly developer = greatness for everyone (Honor included)
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Honor should deliver anything related to development (bootlaoder unlock, source code and even device tree if possible) to make things great
I'm going to wait and see what Huawei does with the bootloader unlock and doubt they would release source code, they haven't done so with the P9.
vision33r said:
I'm going to wait and see what Huawei does with the bootloader unlock and doubt they would release source code, they haven't done so with the P9.
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I hope they release it, since they have partnership with XDA now.
Hello Valued Customer
tiguy99 said:
I'm due for an upgrade.
Will US Carriers sell the Honor 8 or will it strictly be available through Hauwei's online suppliers?
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Hello tiguy99,
Thanks for your interest in the Honor 8. Here at Honor, we love assisting our customers. You can actually purchase your Honor 8 today through our official Honor website! Please visit the provided link to be one of the first to get the device https://store.hihonor.com/us/honor-...lable now&mc_cid=b7c88fefc0&mc_eid=94c7bc3d9d. Thanks for your inquiry. We appreciate you. (ED)
tiguy99 said:
I'm due for an upgrade.
Will US Carriers sell the Honor 8 or will it strictly be available through Hauwei's online suppliers?
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As with the what everyone has said it won't be through the carriers and I hate to say that will be a huge problem for their us release. Less then 3% of people in the US buy devices full retail. Mainly when you can get other flagship devices for nothing up front. I hope to see it as it this could be a great thing but I just don't think it will happen.

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