Unlock or not (considering official update)? - Asus Transformer TF700

I bought a TF700 over christmas and like it but obviously don't like the lag issues as everyone else. I was about to unlock and install CROM and then news came out about an official ASUS update *sometime* in the future. If I unlock will that preclude me from getting that update if it turns out to be a great update? Should I hold off on unlocking because of that or just jump in and not worry about the future ASUS update?
I know there is no right answer, just looking for some opinions to help me make up my mind.
Thanks!

mattbooty said:
I bought a TF700 over christmas and like it but obviously don't like the lag issues as everyone else. I was about to unlock and install CROM and then news came out about an official ASUS update *sometime* in the future. If I unlock will that preclude me from getting that update if it turns out to be a great update? Should I hold off on unlocking because of that or just jump in and not worry about the future ASUS update?
I know there is no right answer, just looking for some opinions to help me make up my mind.
Thanks!
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You're correct, unlocked device will no longer receives OTA, however custom rom 99% at the time, better and faster than stock rom. If in the future you want to run stock rom, you can manually update (pretty simple, open custom recovery and flash full Asus stock rom). So there you have it, the best of both world.

Awesome, so i can always flash back to stock if a future update is outstanding. Thank you, I will move forward with the unlock!

What he meant was that you could flash the update from Asus manually. You will never get an ota update after unlock. You will have to wait for them to post it to their website or get it from a forum member to do the update manually. They are usually pretty good about putting it on the website quickly, but thought you should know that.
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mattbooty said:
Awesome, so i can always flash back to stock if a future update is outstanding. Thank you, I will move forward with the unlock!
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Understand unlocking voids factory warranty. Personally I would wait to see have the JB 4.2.1 turns out with should come out in the next 3 months
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Concerning the warranty...
Do you lose all your warranty coverage?
What if the screen goes out or has a lot of dead pixels?
This is my reason for not unlocking.
I have used numerous custom roms on other phones and my touch pad, but I don't think any of those came out and said you would lose your warranty if you used a custom rom
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It was my understanding that yes unlocking voids your warranty, but that has been my understanding for every smartphone and tablet i've owned (and i could be wrong).

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Noob to the Infinity

Hey guys,
I will be getting my Infinity by Sunday and I was hoping you guys could help me out on powering and starting up my tablet.
It would really help me a lot (and also the other users there who are still confused on what to do) if someone could provide a step by step procedure into how we can make the best out of this tablet...
like (ROOTING --- to root or not to root?, UPDATING FIRMWARE, SUGGESTED APPS)
download links and instructional links would be really helpful here is as well...
hope someone would be kind enough to help
Thanks in advance...
Knowing more about your battery, performance and how to maximize it will yield longer play time and increase the life of your tablet. I would start reading and get familiar with it.
Here is a link, its also one of the stickies.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1805636
[HOW-TO] Battery saving tips
For Rooting and other helpful advice/tips/suggestions go here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1798586
[RESOURCES] How to Root, Unlock, ROMs, Recovery, Tips & more [VIDEO TUTORIALS]
I would immediately update firmware when you receive your tablet and if you have a tf201 dock attach it and you should get an update notice for your keyboard dock.
Congrats on owning the Infinity!! If you get some lag from browsing or swiping or performance issues, not to worry. That will be eliminated once Jelly Bean project butter hits our tablet. (Reference Nexus 7)
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jjdevega said:
Knowing more about your battery, performance and how to maximize it will yield longer play time and increase the life of your tablet. I would start reading and get familiar with it.
Here is a link, its also one of the stickies.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1805636
[HOW-TO] Battery saving tips
For Rooting and other helpful advice/tips/suggestions go here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1798586
[RESOURCES] How to Root, Unlock, ROMs, Recovery, Tips & more [VIDEO TUTORIALS]
I would immediately update firmware when you receive your tablet and if you have a tf201 dock attach it and you should get an update notice for your keyboard dock.
Congrats on owning the Infinity!! If you get some lag from browsing or swiping or performance issues, not to worry. That will be eliminated once Jelly Bean project butter hits our tablet. (Reference Nexus 7)
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thanks for the very quick reply..
so i guess i should do the update first when i get it, and then try to root it? should i unlock the bootloader? put in some custom ROM or stick with stock? thanks again...
shadow071506 said:
thanks for the very quick reply..
so i guess i should do the update first when i get it, and then try to root it? should i unlock the bootloader? put in some custom ROM or stick with stock? thanks again...
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Yes you can update firmware then root if you like. Remember Unlocking your tablet will void warranty and lose the ability to receive future updates from Asus. Once unlocked you will have to rely on custom roms to to keep up to date. As for me I'm just waiting for Jelly Bean Project Butter to hit our tablets before considering custom roms and of course making sure that my tablet is a keeper since i am still within the 30 return policy from BB.
So my advice is to not jump the gun. You can unlock your tablet anytime you want only down side to it is that if something breaks your SOL no warranty and its frowned upon to return a tablet unlocked, because the chances of that tablet being sold to another is likely to happen. Then that persons warranty is already void.
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Update the firmware, and then wait to root or unlock the boot loader.
In my opinion there is no reason to rush to root it. The stock ROM is quite nice, you can always change the launcher if you want a different look. I believe that all current ROMs (and there aren't many, yet) are still pretty much in beta. So give the devs some time to do their thing. In the mean time just enjoy your new toy.
thanks for the advice guys... it means a lot... will keep you guys posted once i get my hands on it
Rooting is fairly straight-forward in execution and does provide you with access to programs you wouldn't normally be able to use (adaway comes to mind). It also will not void your warranty and if you do have problems, you can always do a factory reset to go back to straight stock. Bootloader unlocking will void your warranty and prevent you from receiving OTA updates (though you can still install updates manually) and there are not many custom ROMs available just yet. In summary, root if you want, don't unlock the bootloader yet.
Edit: removed derp
^Thanks for that... will probably do an update first and then root it.. any suggestion to what initial apps to install?
shadow071506 said:
^Thanks for that... will probably do an update first and then root it.. any suggestion to what initial apps to install?
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Once rooted I highly recommend installing the listed rooted only apps down below...
*SuperUser
*Titanium backup
*Busybox
*Voodoo Ota Rootkeeper
*Root Explorer
*Volume+
*SetCpu
*Screen Filter
*Quick shutdown
*Rapid reboot
*Screen off
*Battery Calibration
*Wifikill (Not in Playstore)
*Adfree
Brought to you by my Asus TF700T
^ Thanks a lot for that... *excited to try those out*

can I undo jelly bean OTA and restore ICS?

By browsing the thread here I feel updating to jelly bean may not work out well for everyone. I got the OTA downloaded and sitting in my tf300, is there anyway to back out of it once it is installed? Please let me know .... TIA
I dont see why not, but you have to unlock BL, root, install custom recovery and flash back to a ICS rom. So if your intent is to stay pure stock and keep warranty, your probably not gonna be able to roll back to ICS if you commit to JB.
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I tried to roll back by loading the firmware on internal SD. It updated but left me on jb. My boot loader is not unlocked so I would speculate no, but others are trying to do the same, so you might search other posts for this.
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Thanks!
I just pulled the trigger and installed JB. I don't feel much differences. Given I just got the tf300 for less than a week, time will tell.
XperianceIT said:
I dont see why not, but you have to unlock BL, root, install custom recovery and flash back to a ICS rom. So if your intent is to stay pure stock and keep warranty, your probably not gonna be able to roll back to ICS if you commit to JB.
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I'm having issues since I updated to JB and I am BL locked but rooted. Can you confirm this is 100% true, that you can't get back to ICS w/out unlocking and have installed a custom recovery? I was hoping to keep my warranty intact, this is exactly the reason I did. I think I may be sending this back to ASUS to be fixed under the warranty
paedz718 said:
I'm having issues since I updated to JB and I am BL locked but rooted. Can you confirm this is 100% true, that you can't get back to ICS w/out unlocking and have installed a custom recovery? I was hoping to keep my warranty intact, this is exactly the reason I did. I think I may be sending this back to ASUS to be fixed under the warranty
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I don't think anyone has managed to do this yet.
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funnel71 said:
I don't think anyone has managed to do this yet.
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Thanks for verifying that for me. I thought that was the case. It looks like RMAing is the route I will need to take

Unlock Bootloader Asus Updates

I understand that it voids the warranty etc (although it seems asus are better than some at fixing hardware issues on unlocked devices, and my warranty is with amazon anyway...)
What i dont get is the deal with updates. Does unlocking only stop ota updates? or will it prevent me from updating by downloading from the asus site, and doing a manual install?
Thanks for any info, i finally have a sound TF700 (3rd time lucky on RMA) and want to start trying out some of the ROMs!
Do not attempt to in install from Asus website. It will brick your tablet. Check the prime forums. There should be numerous post on this when they first released the unlock tool. Since you don't have nvflash I would advised against being adventurous.
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ishamm said:
I understand that it voids the warranty etc (although it seems asus are better than some at fixing hardware issues on unlocked devices, and my warranty is with amazon anyway...)
What i dont get is the deal with updates. Does unlocking only stop ota updates? or will it prevent me from updating by downloading from the asus site, and doing a manual install?
Thanks for any info, i finally have a sound TF700 (3rd time lucky on RMA) and want to start trying out some of the ROMs!
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Only OTAs are affected after unlocking, but you can manually update using the firmware from Asus site. With the firmware from Asus site you can recover your device or update but you can't downgrade to a lower version.
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ok so two very conflicting answers XD
i would hope/assume that the second is true, but if anyone else could shed some light it'd be great :good:
Pretoriano80 said:
Only OTAs are affected after unlocking, but you can manually update using the firmware from Asus site. With the firmware from Asus site you can recover your device or update but you can't downgrade to a lower version.
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This guy is right.
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crystalstylez said:
Do not attempt to in install from Asus website. It will brick your tablet. Check the prime forums. There should be numerous post on this when they first released the unlock tool. Since you don't have nvflash I would advised against being adventurous.
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This is absolutely untrue. Many of us that unlocked before the .26 update as well as some that have soft-bricked after flashing a CM10 pre-alpha were able to use the official updates and firmwares to get patched or back in working order.
^ This.
But I believe it re-flashed the recovery back to stock for some? (so better use those re-made zips with blobs posted here if on TWRP or other custom recovery or be prepared to do some re-flashing - just choose the most comfortable option)
urrlyx said:
This is absolutely untrue. Many of us that unlocked before the .26 update as well as some that have soft-bricked after flashing a CM10 pre-alpha were able to use the official updates and firmwares to get patched or back in working order.
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I'm just going off of this in the dos and don't section of the prime. I guess it has worked for others.
DON'T
Once you unlocked the prime and installed CWM,*do NOT*try to install a super blob from ASUS (that is a blob file from one of the 'full' updates from their site)It seems that doing so*totally bricks your Prime*with no chance of recovery... (happened at least twice so far)
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I believe some have flashed the official update using TWRP (don't have time to search for posts atm) and I know for a fact that you can manually do it by writing the blob to the staging partition with dd. Maybe CWM on the Prime has a bug with regard to official blobs?
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As far as I know only the OTAs are affected, but why would you unlock if you were only interested in ASUS' branded firmwares anyway? The whole idea of unlocking is to enable installing custom ROMs! I sincerely do not mean to be rude, but I am going to direct: if you would, in any way, shape or form, be inconvenienced/scared/depressed/frightened/saddened to lose the functionality of updating from ASUS' repository, well, news flash: don't unlock at all. ; )

Unlocking/Rooting with current JB firmware?

Is there a way to Unlock or Root the TF700 with the current JB firmware? My TF700 came stock with JB, and it seems like Asus took down the links to the ICS firmware on their support site.
As others have said in various threads, you can be on JB and unlock no problem. It says ICS only but Asus are just lazy and haven't updated their site. I unlocked on JB and everything is fine.
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So after that i'll be able to root it no problem?
Correct. I just did it last night and everything worked fine. Unlocked and rooted on latest 4.1.1 JB!
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New TF700 owner here.
Curious to getting root w/o unlocking it? I looked at some other threads and only talk about keeping root while upgrading etc.
So far loving this tablet, the dock makes it 100x more useful when you need it.
Trigster said:
New TF700 owner here.
Curious to getting root w/o unlocking it? I looked at some other threads and only talk about keeping root while upgrading etc.
So far loving this tablet, the dock makes it 100x more useful when you need it.
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As far as I know, the only way to root it without unlocking the bootloader is if you have ICS and just use the debugfs command program, as far as rooting with JB I know you have to have the bootloader unlocked. In all honesty I don't mind taking the risk of unlocking my bootloader because I have Geek Squad Protection on my tablet and can just get a new one for free.
HELP ROOT
ffd173 said:
Correct. I just did it last night and everything worked fine. Unlocked and rooted on latest 4.1.1 JB!
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HI,i got my infinity unlocked but can't seem to find the right instructions on how to rooted,im on JB 4.1.1,i tried InfinityRoot but it fails,please help me.
burnaccess said:
HI,i got my infinity unlocked but can't seem to find the right instructions on how to rooted,im on JB 4.1.1,i tried InfinityRoot but it fails,please help me.
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This thread should help you out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1938129
You should use TWRP 2.3.1 instead of 2.2.2.3, which he reccommends, though. They have fixed the issues he talks about.
burnaccess said:
HI,i got my infinity unlocked but can't seem to find the right instructions on how to rooted,im on JB 4.1.1,i tried InfinityRoot but it fails,please help me.
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Just follow this instruction but use the latest twrp version 2.3.1 instead:
http://goo.im/devs/s0updev/goomanager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32825557
I'm wanting to take the plunge myself - but do you have to use the Asus unlocker tool or is there a way around that? I'm too late to get SquareTrade I think. Too late, and too poor LOL. I just have that nagging feeling that as soon as I do the thing will bork on me.
Edit: Sorry...I just read that you can't unlock without the ASUS tool, and it's a damn shame. I want so bad to rant right now but I won't.
I think I'm still going to unlock though.
The only way I could find to root was to install CWM recovery first, and then install the CWM SuperUser app. I replaced CWM with TWRP when all was said and done. Both are now touch interfaces making things so much less laborious. The links for doing so are all around the web and these forums. I had my frustrations but in the end it was easier than I thought it would be. I'm happy I took the plunge. I believe a lot of my frustrations were from ASUS' horrible implementation of Android. My benchmarks are now 6300+ on Quadrant with 2D GPU rendering on. I know benchmarks aren't everything but, you won't be sorry if you're giving up some kind of warranty to get the device you paid premium dollar for.

Anyone else got Firmware Update 10.4.4.23?

Busy with nothing I simply pressed the button to check firmware update for my TF700T. Then a notif came up telling me to install an update. After a temporary unroot I did what it said, and now I'm running Firmware 10.4.4.23-20121127, mine is WW. Root restored without any issue after rebooting.
Can't really see any changes (yet), probably have to dig deeper.
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Updated and restored root
I've just installed mine but have not seen any difference. Maybe preparing the way for 4.2?
Could anyone upload the dlpkgfile for ww??
Here is the US version if someone needs it http://www.4shared.com/file/DIESwG1w/dlpkgfile.html
bossard said:
I've just installed mine but have not seen any difference. Maybe preparing the way for 4.2?
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I did an Antutu benchmark, before update I was getting about 13300 or so, now I am getting 14400. I also think they have unlocked 1700 mghz for all cores except power saving obviously.
Got the update too, nothing too obvious seems to have changed.....
And I forgot to backup the dlpkgfile, sorry @geri.st
Ready2Mosh said:
I did an Antutu benchmark, before update I was getting about 13300 or so, now I am getting 14400. I also think they have unlocked 1700 mghz for all cores except power saving obviously.
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Just noticed the 1700 mhtz being available again. Otherwise I dont see any noticeable difference either. There's still lag and choppiness as .20
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Yes lag and choppiness in stock browser still very much present.
Do we really need another thread for this
For me this is the greatest update so far. Tablet is much faster and did not find any bugs yet. Prevented me from unlocking for some more time.
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geri.st said:
Could anyone upload the dlpkgfile for ww??
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Sorry i can not post links because i'mnewbie
dlpkgfile.WW.TF700T.10.4.4.23 --> h t t p : / / d l . f r e e . f r / j N 9 d P O 8 W D
raladoshow said:
For me this is the greatest update so far. Tablet is much faster and did not find any bugs yet. Prevented me from unlocking for some more time.
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You haven't seen the performance of Cleanrom and Clemsyn kernel yet. I ran the .23 version and it's no where near the performance of the Cleanrom/clemsyn combo. I went back to stock just to see the .23 perfornace, but after one day, I'm back on Cleanrom/Clemsyn kernel.
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You haven't seen the performance of Cleanrom and Clemsyn kernel yet. I ran the .23 version and it's no where near the performance of the Cleanrom/clemsyn combo. I went back to stock just to see the .23 perfornace, but after one day, I'm back on Cleanrom/Clemsyn kernel.
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From what I've read I truly believe in you. The problem is that I didn't use NVFlash when possible (had already updated the bootloader) and I don't want to risk unlocking and flashing ROM's for now. The tablet is not sold in my country and if I brick it I wouldn't be able to repair nor to buy a new one.
I am not a newbie on flashing ROM's in general because I still own a HD2 but I do know there are risks on the process.
Thus, I will probably wait for the 4.2 update to decide between unlocking it or not.
raladoshow said:
From what I've read I truly believe in you. The problem is that I didn't use NVFlash when possible (had already updated the bootloader) and I don't want to risk unlocking and flashing ROM's for now. The tablet is not sold in my country and if I brick it I wouldn't be able to repair nor to buy a new one.
I am not a newbie on flashing ROM's in general because I still own a HD2 but I do know there are risks on the process.
Thus, I will probably wait for the 4.2 update to decide between unlocking it or not.
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I hear you, you do have a point!
I agree that this update really improved the speed of my tab. Might not be clean rom fast, but it's still warrantied fast
It's a bit faster now. At this rate we'll be fully happy with the speed around April. For me it does what I want it to just fine So what if I have to wait 1 second instead of 0.5 second for an app to open? And the very, very rare (no, I don't get them a lot. once a day, at most.) ANR messages are a whole lot less irritating than the constant "Are you sure" UAC rubbish I deal with daily on W7. (technologically impaired clients. Ugh.)
raladoshow said:
From what I've read I truly believe in you. The problem is that I didn't use NVFlash when possible (had already updated the bootloader) and I don't want to risk unlocking and flashing ROM's for now. The tablet is not sold in my country and if I brick it I wouldn't be able to repair nor to buy a new one.
I am not a newbie on flashing ROM's in general because I still own a HD2 but I do know there are risks on the process.
Thus, I will probably wait for the 4.2 update to decide between unlocking it or not.
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I, too, am not risking unlocking. While it is for sale here quite regularly and the EU covers warranty concerns, I bought it from a store that's not known for its great customer service (Media Markt, for you dutchies&germans.) and I didn't get a chance to use NVFlash. (By the time I heard about the idea, the first update had already auto installed. ) I'm also generally rather unlucky when it comes to electronics, stuff tends to break. And I need the tablet for work, so I can't afford to have it send out for repair for weeks if I mess up.
@ShadowLea
I have exactly the same problem as you, but Media Markt isn't good for repair?
Must I unfreeze all system apps before the update?
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@ShadowLea
I have exactly the same problem as you, but Media Markt isn't good for repair?
Must I unfreeze all system apps before the update?
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Yes, you must unfreez all system. Any modification to properties (build.props) file also needs to roll back. The device must be in the "stock" condition or update will failed.
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Yes, you must unfreez all system. Any modification to properties (build.props) file also needs to roll back. The device must be in the "stock" condition or update will failed.
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Thank you, it worked

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