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Root after JB

Hi all! Just got athe Tf300t yesterday and did OTA to JB.
Is there a way to root the JB os?

sumnerm1 said:
Hi all! Just got athe Tf300t yesterday and did OTA to JB.
Is there a way to root the JB os?
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If you didn't root before the update then no, not without unlocking the bootloader.
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funnel71 said:
If you didn't root before the update then no, not without unlocking the bootloader.
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Unlocking bootloader IS possible on JB?
Then I can root?
Are there any major benefits to rooting?
I know on my SGS2 i see reasons to root.....hot spot, etc...
But what about transformer?

sumnerm1 said:
Unlocking bootloader IS possible on JB?
Then I can root?
Are there any major benefits to rooting?
I know on my SGS2 i see reasons to root.....hot spot, etc...
But what about transformer?
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Reasons for rooting are generally the same across devices. Now having a WiFi only device kind of negates the need for hotspot, but you get the idea.
Asus has provided the unlock tool for the bootloader, but I've not heard 100% confirmation of someone using it successfully with jb as the ROM and bootloader locked.
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funnel71 said:
Reasons for rooting are generally the same across devices. Now having a WiFi only device kind of negates the need for hotspot, but you get the idea.
Asus has provided the unlock tool for the bootloader, but I've not heard 100% confirmation of someone using it successfully with jb as the ROM and bootloader locked.
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The Asus bootloader unlock tool works fine from the OTA JB.

Just picked up the tablet today and this is my second Android device. I currently have a samsung galaxy skyrocket and am a bit of a flashing ROM junky
I have no experience with a locked bootloader device though.
Is it better to root and add recovery in the stock ICS or is it ok to root and add recovery in JB
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mymusicathome said:
Just picked up the tablet today and this is my second Android device. I currently have a samsung galaxy skyrocket and am a bit of a flashing ROM junky
I have no experience with a locked bootloader device though.
Is it better to root and add recovery in the stock ICS or is it ok to root and add recovery in JB
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We are 2 peas in a pod, music. Been flashing the crap out of my SG2 rocket! On R4INS's JB now and....smoove!
But this bootloader is new to me, too. I did the OTA yesterday, when I got the pad. Now it seems I am back peddling,
trying to get up to speed.

sumnerm1 said:
We are 2 peas in a pod, music. Been flashing the crap out of my SG2 rocket! On R4INS's JB now and....smoove!
But this bootloader is new to me, too. I did the OTA yesterday, when I got the pad. Now it seems I am back peddling,
trying to get up to speed.
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It was seeing seanscream as a dev that sold this device for me i love his roms . Funny thing i found after playing around with a tablet.... my phone doesn't feel so big hehe.
Im going to lay low with ics... as much as i want to take jb for a spin :s
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mymusicathome said:
It was seeing seanscream as a dev that sold this device for me i love his roms . Funny thing i found after playing around with a tablet.... my phone doesn't feel so big hehe.
Im going to lay low with ics... as much as i want to take jb for a spin :s
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Dude, make a nandroid, and try R4INS 4.1.1 nuff said. Only SMALL drawback is flash, and it wont be around much longer...
This mofo has been at it for 2 weeks solid, with mucho user feedback...hell, I even donated $20 to him.
Now....back to this Tablet thing....

Does someone tried to use the same method as for Nexus 7, unlock oem and then install CWM recovery?

OK here are the situations I've found...
Rooting with ICS on this tablet is easy - use debugfs one click method.
Upgrading to jb after being rooted should be OK as long as you backup with something like ota root keeper. I did the upgrade and did keep root this way.
once on jb you cannot wipe data and keep root at this time. The update has altered the /data location severing app from root permission and I have yet to find a way to get it back.
rooting after a jb upgrade is not possible just yet.
Finally, all of these statements are based on a locked boot loader. If you want to unlock, you can pretty much do what you want.
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Someone will crack this beast. Until then we wait.

Unlock Bootloader Asus Updates

I understand that it voids the warranty etc (although it seems asus are better than some at fixing hardware issues on unlocked devices, and my warranty is with amazon anyway...)
What i dont get is the deal with updates. Does unlocking only stop ota updates? or will it prevent me from updating by downloading from the asus site, and doing a manual install?
Thanks for any info, i finally have a sound TF700 (3rd time lucky on RMA) and want to start trying out some of the ROMs!

Do not attempt to in install from Asus website. It will brick your tablet. Check the prime forums. There should be numerous post on this when they first released the unlock tool. Since you don't have nvflash I would advised against being adventurous.
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ishamm said:
I understand that it voids the warranty etc (although it seems asus are better than some at fixing hardware issues on unlocked devices, and my warranty is with amazon anyway...)
What i dont get is the deal with updates. Does unlocking only stop ota updates? or will it prevent me from updating by downloading from the asus site, and doing a manual install?
Thanks for any info, i finally have a sound TF700 (3rd time lucky on RMA) and want to start trying out some of the ROMs!
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Only OTAs are affected after unlocking, but you can manually update using the firmware from Asus site. With the firmware from Asus site you can recover your device or update but you can't downgrade to a lower version.
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ok so two very conflicting answers XD
i would hope/assume that the second is true, but if anyone else could shed some light it'd be great :good:

Pretoriano80 said:
Only OTAs are affected after unlocking, but you can manually update using the firmware from Asus site. With the firmware from Asus site you can recover your device or update but you can't downgrade to a lower version.
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This guy is right.
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crystalstylez said:
Do not attempt to in install from Asus website. It will brick your tablet. Check the prime forums. There should be numerous post on this when they first released the unlock tool. Since you don't have nvflash I would advised against being adventurous.
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This is absolutely untrue. Many of us that unlocked before the .26 update as well as some that have soft-bricked after flashing a CM10 pre-alpha were able to use the official updates and firmwares to get patched or back in working order.

^ This.
But I believe it re-flashed the recovery back to stock for some? (so better use those re-made zips with blobs posted here if on TWRP or other custom recovery or be prepared to do some re-flashing - just choose the most comfortable option)

urrlyx said:
This is absolutely untrue. Many of us that unlocked before the .26 update as well as some that have soft-bricked after flashing a CM10 pre-alpha were able to use the official updates and firmwares to get patched or back in working order.
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I'm just going off of this in the dos and don't section of the prime. I guess it has worked for others.
DON'T
Once you unlocked the prime and installed CWM,*do NOT*try to install a super blob from ASUS (that is a blob file from one of the 'full' updates from their site)It seems that doing so*totally bricks your Prime*with no chance of recovery... (happened at least twice so far)
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I believe some have flashed the official update using TWRP (don't have time to search for posts atm) and I know for a fact that you can manually do it by writing the blob to the staging partition with dd. Maybe CWM on the Prime has a bug with regard to official blobs?
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As far as I know only the OTAs are affected, but why would you unlock if you were only interested in ASUS' branded firmwares anyway? The whole idea of unlocking is to enable installing custom ROMs! I sincerely do not mean to be rude, but I am going to direct: if you would, in any way, shape or form, be inconvenienced/scared/depressed/frightened/saddened to lose the functionality of updating from ASUS' repository, well, news flash: don't unlock at all. ; )

Do's and Dont's before JB Update?

Since Jellybean update is just around the corner, can anyone suggest initial steps to be done prior to the said update?
Thanks a lot...

Don't: root, unlock, flash or **** with your TF700 in any way if you're currently on stock and want the update OTA.
Do: wait patiently and regularly check this forum and/or check for firmware update on your TF700.

Rooting may not prevent the update, I took .30 over .26 while rooted and it applied perfectly fine.
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Being Rooted is fine. I don't understand why this is still going around about being rooted prevents ota. You can still receive ota updates when rooted. You will actually lose root when you do take the update. Unless you protect your root with voodoo ota rootkeeper.
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That is what I thought, but this is my first tablet and my first ASUS, so I didn't want to state definitively that it would not affect the update.
I've had 2 Motorola Android-based smartphones, so I'm familiar with Android in general, but different OEMs do things differently, obviously.
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So if I'm unlocked I can't receive the OTA?
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SuperSonicRob said:
So if I'm unlocked I can't receive the OTA?
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correct

I've included info in my tweaks thread about SuperSU meant for, hopefully, not losing root after the update.

chugger93 said:
correct
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I should still be able to get it manually right? Still new to this device, all I've ever had was HTC android devices.
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SuperSonicRob said:
So if I'm unlocked I can't receive the OTA?
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Nope. You can of course download the update from ASUS' website and flash it yourself, but they won't do it for you no more. : )

1. If you are 100% stock - NO problem with OTA.
2.. If you are just rooted - you can download OTA root keeper from the market and perform a temp unroot your device to get ready(if you want to keep root after the update). OTA should work fine. After the update some people may have to REroot.
3. If you have unlocked bootloader with root or without root, you will NOT able to do OTA update. Once you unlocked your bootloader, OTA no longer works and NO you can't RElocked your bootloader to take OTA. You will have to manually perform the update. There will be plenty of instruction how to do once JB is out.
Hope it's clear for everyone.
4. If you have custom rom, definitely NO OTA update and you don't want OTA update anyway. Just wait for a new official JB custom rom or update manually.

Is it really necessary to enable disabled applications beforehand or it's just another Android myth??
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megamoz said:
Is it really necessary to enable disabled applications beforehand or it's just another Android myth??
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What application you referred to??

buhohitr said:
What application you referred to??
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Basically bloatware,
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megamoz said:
Is it really necessary to enable disabled applications beforehand or it's just another Android myth??
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I would err on the side of caution and enable all. Then do a cold boot. Only then, do you do the update. After the update, disable the apps. Then cold boot again. :good:

buhohitr said:
1. If you are 100% stock - NO problem with OTA.
2.. If you are just rooted - you can download OTA root keeper from the market and perform a temp unroot your device to get ready(if you want to keep root after the update). OTA should work fine. After the update some people may have to REroot.
3. If you have unlocked bootloader with root or without root, you will NOT able to do OTA update. Once you unlocked your bootloader, OTA no longer works and NO you can't RElocked your bootloader to take OTA. You will have to manually perform the update. There will be plenty of instruction how to do once JB is out.
Hope it's clear for everyone.
4. If you have custom rom, definitely NO OTA update and you don't want OTA update anyway. Just wait for a new official JB custom rom or update manually.
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So if I'm running the Zues custom rom now, once the official jellybean hits I can download manually from ASUS website and flash in TWRP?

Yes you can flash official firmwares with TWRP, though it has been stated there may be some issues with TWRP until they get it recompiled using the new kernel source.
how-to here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1755576

yeah flashing the update with twrp is ok (i think) but then just stick with stock recovery until twrp is updated. No idea if cwm is the same way... guess we should read up in the tf300 forum.

Uninstall ezoverclock. Don't think it works on the infinity anyway, but i had it installed since i used it on the prime. The 300 forum indicated that it will cause bootloops.
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Don't: Update right away.
Do: Wait for a few days, people will post the good and the bad of this update and you can decide whether to update or not.

[Q] able to keep ROOT after 4.1 update?

Well we've already heard the great new TF700's gonna be getting JB within 72hrs. Now here comes this maybe stupid question since Im a noob , will we be able to keep our root by using like Voodoo OTA rootkeeper after such a major update, or we have to wait for a new root tool?

How are we supposed to know before its released?

Wait until someone confirms OTA Doorkeeper works. I'm going to give it a try when I get the update. No one can really tell unless the app doesn't support JB
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Since TF300 has already got it's JB update, does anyone know if rootkeeper works on that one after the update?

kanewangkw said:
Well we've already heard the great new TF700's gonna be getting JB within 72hrs. Now here comes this maybe stupid question since Im a noob , will we be able to keep our root by using like Voodoo OTA rootkeeper after such a major update, or we have to wait for a new root tool?
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We heard some news that TF300 after upgraded to JB able to keep root, so we believe we should able to...but for our TF700, only time will tell!

Or if you have an unlocked bootloader you could simply keep using what you have and wait for a day or two(i know its hard) and the awesome devs of this community will have a rooted rom out based on the new JB Update. The roms out now based off of ICS and the TF300 JB are already great. It wont take long to get the little bugs squashed with official source. just my humble opinion.

In order to keep root with the TF300T JB OTA you had to use SuperSU and Voodoo together. Others staying with Superuser and Voodoo lost root. Make sure you check the keep root function in SuperSU's settings though before starting the update. Also worked with the 4.1.1 update last night.
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Should I just wait to root until after the update? I have a completely stock infinity as I just got it a couple days ago...
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gtg420i said:
In order to keep root with the TF300T JB OTA you had to use SuperSU and Voodoo together. Others staying with Superuser and Voodoo lost root. Make sure you check the keep root function in SuperSU's settings though before starting the update. Also worked with the 4.1.1 update last night.
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how exactly they both work together? since I haven't used SuperSU before so any detail would be helpful.
Is that I just toggle ON SuperSU's OTA survival mode before the OTA, and restore the root by using Voodoo after the OTA?

vhuynh13 said:
Should I just wait to root until after the update? I have a completely stock infinity as I just got it a couple days ago...
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seriously we won't know anything until it is released.
if you want root don't accept any update until you hear from the devs that it is safe.

kanewangkw said:
Well we've already heard the great new TF700's gonna be getting JB within 72hrs. Now here comes this maybe stupid question since Im a noob , will we be able to keep our root by using like Voodoo OTA rootkeeper after such a major update, or we have to wait for a new root tool?
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Where did you found this news?

komple said:
Where did you found this news?
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Right here.
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vhuynh13 said:
Should I just wait to root until after the update? I have a completely stock infinity as I just got it a couple days ago...
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NO, there is no way to root jellybean currently! You need to root before upgrading to Jellybean!
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New TF300T few questions on rooting etc

Hi all,
After much debate between the Infinity, Prime and TF300 I settled on getting a TF300T. It's new out of the box and is charging up right this minute.
I am coming from a Motorola Xoom which I had rooted running EOS JB ROM and TWRP Recovery.
I've been having a look through the TF300T forums and I see that the general advice seems to be not to be not to upgrade OTA until I have rooted and unlocked, is this correct?
I have seen SparkyRoot but was wondering lso what is the best and easiest method for rooting ? I am in the UK so I guess I have to make sure I find instructions etc for the UK version?
I am not looking to install any custom ROMs yet, I want to see how the stock goes for now. I am interested in getting it rooted though because I have apps like Titanium, Sixaxis Controller which need root privileges.
I guess you guys in this corner of the forum will be seeing more of me now that I have a TF300T. I will see how I get on with this tablet for a week or two before I finally ditch and sell my trusty old Xoom.
Thanks in advance for your help.

burt_ie said:
Hi all,
After much debate between the Infinity, Prime and TF300 I settled on getting a TF300T. It's new out of the box and is charging up right this minute.
I am coming from a Motorola Xoom which I had rooted running EOS JB ROM and TWRP Recovery.
I've been having a look through the TF300T forums and I see that the general advice seems to be not to be not to upgrade OTA until I have rooted and unlocked, is this correct?
I have seen SparkyRoot but was wondering lso what is the best and easiest method for rooting ? I am in the UK so I guess I have to make sure I find instructions etc for the UK version?
I am not looking to install any custom ROMs yet, I want to see how the stock goes for now. I am interested in getting it rooted though because I have apps like Titanium, Sixaxis Controller which need root privileges.
I guess you guys in this corner of the forum will be seeing more of me now that I have a TF300T. I will see how I get on with this tablet for a week or two before I finally ditch and sell my trusty old Xoom.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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I'm assuming you have not taken the jb update. Here's what happened to me...
I was on ICS. I rooted using the debugfs method, in the Dev section. I took the jb update and thanks to ota rootkeeper I was able to restore root with no issue. I had to wipe data shortly after to resolve a problem. That caused me to lose root permission, and I couldn't get it back without unlocking and using step 3 of the jb root guide, in the general section.
I'm now on stock jbwith an unlocked bootloader, twrp recovery, root, and a couple of tiny mods from the Dev section. I consider having twrp much better than maintaining the warranty because you can easily do full backups, and flash things like mods and root. Hope this helps you.
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I have rooted my TF300 first then I was on ICS.
I have used [ROOT][TOOL]Debugfs automated root v1.9 - update 7/2/2012 - Prime & TF300t by sparkym3
and after I have backuped my root with OTA rootkeeper - free version.
I have checked my root with Root Checker-Free version.
I have updated my device on JB by OTA without problem.
Restored my root with OTA rootkeeper.
And finally, I have unlocked my TF300 with Asus tool: UnLock_Device_App_V7.apk
Restored my root with OTA Rootkeeper.
Installed TWRP Recovery, which is for my part, the recovery which is more stable
And actually, I'm on [ROM] Asus Custom Rom - JB Overclock Edition V01
If you want to know more, click on my sig and go to see the index for TF300

Awesome thanks guys
It's finished charging now, I've turned it on but disabled wifi so I don't get any OTA updates.
Looking at my build number it says: IML7K.WW-epad-9.4.3.26-20120416
I seen some guides where the build number was important, I'll go back and double check.
I'll check out those links Phil. Going to make sure I read everything properly as I don't want to end up bricking my new toy
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Looking at the links Philos64 posted it looks quite straightforward, glad to see TWRP on the TF300 as I loved that recovery on my Xoom
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Hello again,
Looking at debug automated root its says supported version: v9.4.3.30 for the TF300T (ICS 4.0.3)
Seeing as my build number said 9.4.3.26 do I have to update my tab first?
Just want to make sure I don't balls this thing up so early lol
Thanks again for all your help
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Can you root on jelly bean with the same process as ICS?
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Seeing as my build number said 9.4.3.26 do I have to update my tab first?
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Yes, you can
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Can you root on jelly bean with the same process as ICS?
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Actually no. You cannot root if you are on JB

That's a shame.
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Yes, you can
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Do I just do an OTA update to get it up to 9.4.3.29? I guess there will be a succession of small updates and as long as I stop on that one?
Sorry for having so many questions.. don't mean to be a nag lol
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So, you can stop the OTA updates at v9.4.3.30

Thanks Philos64 shall do it now... will report back later with the results.
Big thank you coming your way
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All so far so good...rooted and all backed up, just waiting for the JB update to download now.
Just one more thing? I was looking at TWRP and I was wondering how to install it? I know that on my xoom I already had CWM installed and just ran the file from recovery which gave me TWRP but how can I do that with the TF300T? On the TWRP website it says about 2 options:
Install Fastboot Method & Install ADB / Terminal method...both of which I have never done before. Is it easy to do as long as I follow the instructions?
Thanks again :laugh:

Well everything went well, I got root access which confirmed with root checker, done a backup of my root and installed the Jelly Bean update but then Root backup lost my backup

burt_ie said:
Well everything went well, I got root access which confirmed with root checker, done a backup of my root and installed the Jelly Bean update but then Root backup lost my backup
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Then you'll need to unlock the bootloader and follow the guide in the general section to get it back. For twrp, go find links to the twrp site in the Dev section. They have install instructions on the twrp site. Again, you must unlock the bootloader to install it.
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So if I unlock my boot loader I can then root? I don't mind voiding my warranty.

burt_ie said:
So if I unlock my boot loader I can then root? I don't mind voiding my warranty.
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Sure can. If you are already on jb, unlock, then follow step 3 of this guide for root and recovery - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30516010
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That is brilliant news! After reading the forums here i thought that now I was on Jellybean I had lost the ability to root. I guess a lot of people don't want to void their warranty by unlocking their bootloader. I had to do the same thing with my xoom.
I will give this a try sometime this week
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