I understand that it voids the warranty etc (although it seems asus are better than some at fixing hardware issues on unlocked devices, and my warranty is with amazon anyway...)
What i dont get is the deal with updates. Does unlocking only stop ota updates? or will it prevent me from updating by downloading from the asus site, and doing a manual install?
Thanks for any info, i finally have a sound TF700 (3rd time lucky on RMA) and want to start trying out some of the ROMs!
Do not attempt to in install from Asus website. It will brick your tablet. Check the prime forums. There should be numerous post on this when they first released the unlock tool. Since you don't have nvflash I would advised against being adventurous.
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ishamm said:
I understand that it voids the warranty etc (although it seems asus are better than some at fixing hardware issues on unlocked devices, and my warranty is with amazon anyway...)
What i dont get is the deal with updates. Does unlocking only stop ota updates? or will it prevent me from updating by downloading from the asus site, and doing a manual install?
Thanks for any info, i finally have a sound TF700 (3rd time lucky on RMA) and want to start trying out some of the ROMs!
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Only OTAs are affected after unlocking, but you can manually update using the firmware from Asus site. With the firmware from Asus site you can recover your device or update but you can't downgrade to a lower version.
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ok so two very conflicting answers XD
i would hope/assume that the second is true, but if anyone else could shed some light it'd be great :good:
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Only OTAs are affected after unlocking, but you can manually update using the firmware from Asus site. With the firmware from Asus site you can recover your device or update but you can't downgrade to a lower version.
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This guy is right.
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crystalstylez said:
Do not attempt to in install from Asus website. It will brick your tablet. Check the prime forums. There should be numerous post on this when they first released the unlock tool. Since you don't have nvflash I would advised against being adventurous.
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This is absolutely untrue. Many of us that unlocked before the .26 update as well as some that have soft-bricked after flashing a CM10 pre-alpha were able to use the official updates and firmwares to get patched or back in working order.
^ This.
But I believe it re-flashed the recovery back to stock for some? (so better use those re-made zips with blobs posted here if on TWRP or other custom recovery or be prepared to do some re-flashing - just choose the most comfortable option)
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This is absolutely untrue. Many of us that unlocked before the .26 update as well as some that have soft-bricked after flashing a CM10 pre-alpha were able to use the official updates and firmwares to get patched or back in working order.
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I'm just going off of this in the dos and don't section of the prime. I guess it has worked for others.
DON'T
Once you unlocked the prime and installed CWM,*do NOT*try to install a super blob from ASUS (that is a blob file from one of the 'full' updates from their site)It seems that doing so*totally bricks your Prime*with no chance of recovery... (happened at least twice so far)
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I believe some have flashed the official update using TWRP (don't have time to search for posts atm) and I know for a fact that you can manually do it by writing the blob to the staging partition with dd. Maybe CWM on the Prime has a bug with regard to official blobs?
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As far as I know only the OTAs are affected, but why would you unlock if you were only interested in ASUS' branded firmwares anyway? The whole idea of unlocking is to enable installing custom ROMs! I sincerely do not mean to be rude, but I am going to direct: if you would, in any way, shape or form, be inconvenienced/scared/depressed/frightened/saddened to lose the functionality of updating from ASUS' repository, well, news flash: don't unlock at all. ; )
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By browsing the thread here I feel updating to jelly bean may not work out well for everyone. I got the OTA downloaded and sitting in my tf300, is there anyway to back out of it once it is installed? Please let me know .... TIA
I dont see why not, but you have to unlock BL, root, install custom recovery and flash back to a ICS rom. So if your intent is to stay pure stock and keep warranty, your probably not gonna be able to roll back to ICS if you commit to JB.
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I tried to roll back by loading the firmware on internal SD. It updated but left me on jb. My boot loader is not unlocked so I would speculate no, but others are trying to do the same, so you might search other posts for this.
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Thanks!
I just pulled the trigger and installed JB. I don't feel much differences. Given I just got the tf300 for less than a week, time will tell.
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I dont see why not, but you have to unlock BL, root, install custom recovery and flash back to a ICS rom. So if your intent is to stay pure stock and keep warranty, your probably not gonna be able to roll back to ICS if you commit to JB.
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I'm having issues since I updated to JB and I am BL locked but rooted. Can you confirm this is 100% true, that you can't get back to ICS w/out unlocking and have installed a custom recovery? I was hoping to keep my warranty intact, this is exactly the reason I did. I think I may be sending this back to ASUS to be fixed under the warranty
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I'm having issues since I updated to JB and I am BL locked but rooted. Can you confirm this is 100% true, that you can't get back to ICS w/out unlocking and have installed a custom recovery? I was hoping to keep my warranty intact, this is exactly the reason I did. I think I may be sending this back to ASUS to be fixed under the warranty
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I don't think anyone has managed to do this yet.
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I don't think anyone has managed to do this yet.
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Thanks for verifying that for me. I thought that was the case. It looks like RMAing is the route I will need to take
Nvflash for TF700 is now among us!
This release allows unlocked devices to create a set of device-specific files that lets you access nvflash.
Once the procedure is done, you will always be able to recover any software brick (even bootloader!) as long as you keep your files safe!
NOTE:
THIS REQUIRES A NON-BRICKED AND UNLOCKED DEVICE. IT WON'T WORK ON ALREADY BRICKED DEVICES
THIS ONLY WORKS IF YOU HAVE A PRE 9.4.5.30 BOOTLOADER
More details at http://androidroot.mobi/?p=492
Important note: License: Due to the nature of wheelie and the importance of people always using the latest version, Wheelie is NOT redistributable! You are allowed to download it and use it, but you are not allowed to redistribute it in any way - this means no GUI's including it, no reposting zips/tar.gz's and similar! At a later date, we will be releasing our source code and relicense it as GPL.
Enjoy
- AndroidRoot.Mobi Team
NOTE: If anyone wishes to donate, http://androidroot.mobi/donations/ is place to do it! DO NOT DONATE DIRECTLY TO ME.
Thanks for your work. I was waiting for it to try new ROM.
Unfortunatly I have already received the .30 update
For my information, what render impossible the use on nvflash on .30
What probability do we have to see nvflash working with .30 ?
Great news! Thank you guys for your great work,you did it again.Also i think is time for us ( users) to show some appreciation for this and start helping Androidroot.mobi devs with some donations ,they truly deserve it,and not only for the tf700t work but for all their work on the Transformer line .
Wonder if they'll call it a day or try to get a method working for newer bootloaders as well.
<me> kicks himself for installing worthless .30 update
BxMxK said:
Wonder if they'll call it a day or try to get a method working for newer bootloaders as well.
<me> kicks himself for installing worthless .30 update
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We're obviously looking at options. Note that once a device has nvflash accessible, you can update all you want to any rom/bootloader etc.
They can only prevent creating the blobs, not using them.
Bad timing indeed for me too...
--Brad
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Poser said:
Once installed...can .30 update be run?
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see two posts up
This is great.. going to charge my tab and do this later.
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Is it possible to use someone elses blob.bin or is it not worth the risk?
rayman said:
We're obviously looking at options. Note that once a device has nvflash accessible, you can update all you want to any rom/bootloader etc.
They can only prevent creating the blobs, not using them.
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How do the bootloaders on .26 and .30 differ from one another? What have our friends at Asus done to make this not work for those on .30? Thanks
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Great! Going to do it now so I can go flash happy
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Great! Going to do it now so I can go flash happy
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I've just did it and worked great!:good:
All done, backed up and sorted.
THANK YOU!! :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Is it possible to use nvflash if I've already installed .30 update but I'll make downgrade with command dd if=/Removable/MicroSD/blob of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p4 and blob from .26 update?
As far as I know once on .30 update you can't revert to do nvflash
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Is it possible to use nvflash if I've already installed .30 update but I'll make downgrade with command dd if=/Removable/MicroSD/blob of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p4 and blob from .26 update?
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that's how people with the transformer and prime have revert theirs. however, the .30 firmware supposedly has the same check in it that prevented the tf300 jb bootloader from being downgraded.
Just completed this.. thanks a lot!!
I have the sudden urge to brick my device now..lol jk
Is there's any way to know which bootloader I am running? The first rom I've installed is the Zeus v4 one.
Thanks
DaveWut said:
Is there's any way to know which bootloader I am running? The first rom I've installed is the Zeus v4 one.
Thanks
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Unless you flashed last weeks ota you are good.
Is there a way to Unlock or Root the TF700 with the current JB firmware? My TF700 came stock with JB, and it seems like Asus took down the links to the ICS firmware on their support site.
As others have said in various threads, you can be on JB and unlock no problem. It says ICS only but Asus are just lazy and haven't updated their site. I unlocked on JB and everything is fine.
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So after that i'll be able to root it no problem?
Correct. I just did it last night and everything worked fine. Unlocked and rooted on latest 4.1.1 JB!
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New TF700 owner here.
Curious to getting root w/o unlocking it? I looked at some other threads and only talk about keeping root while upgrading etc.
So far loving this tablet, the dock makes it 100x more useful when you need it.
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New TF700 owner here.
Curious to getting root w/o unlocking it? I looked at some other threads and only talk about keeping root while upgrading etc.
So far loving this tablet, the dock makes it 100x more useful when you need it.
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As far as I know, the only way to root it without unlocking the bootloader is if you have ICS and just use the debugfs command program, as far as rooting with JB I know you have to have the bootloader unlocked. In all honesty I don't mind taking the risk of unlocking my bootloader because I have Geek Squad Protection on my tablet and can just get a new one for free.
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ffd173 said:
Correct. I just did it last night and everything worked fine. Unlocked and rooted on latest 4.1.1 JB!
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HI,i got my infinity unlocked but can't seem to find the right instructions on how to rooted,im on JB 4.1.1,i tried InfinityRoot but it fails,please help me.
burnaccess said:
HI,i got my infinity unlocked but can't seem to find the right instructions on how to rooted,im on JB 4.1.1,i tried InfinityRoot but it fails,please help me.
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This thread should help you out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1938129
You should use TWRP 2.3.1 instead of 2.2.2.3, which he reccommends, though. They have fixed the issues he talks about.
burnaccess said:
HI,i got my infinity unlocked but can't seem to find the right instructions on how to rooted,im on JB 4.1.1,i tried InfinityRoot but it fails,please help me.
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Just follow this instruction but use the latest twrp version 2.3.1 instead:
http://goo.im/devs/s0updev/goomanager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32825557
I'm wanting to take the plunge myself - but do you have to use the Asus unlocker tool or is there a way around that? I'm too late to get SquareTrade I think. Too late, and too poor LOL. I just have that nagging feeling that as soon as I do the thing will bork on me.
Edit: Sorry...I just read that you can't unlock without the ASUS tool, and it's a damn shame. I want so bad to rant right now but I won't.
I think I'm still going to unlock though.
The only way I could find to root was to install CWM recovery first, and then install the CWM SuperUser app. I replaced CWM with TWRP when all was said and done. Both are now touch interfaces making things so much less laborious. The links for doing so are all around the web and these forums. I had my frustrations but in the end it was easier than I thought it would be. I'm happy I took the plunge. I believe a lot of my frustrations were from ASUS' horrible implementation of Android. My benchmarks are now 6300+ on Quadrant with 2D GPU rendering on. I know benchmarks aren't everything but, you won't be sorry if you're giving up some kind of warranty to get the device you paid premium dollar for.
I am very close to unlocking my tablet and installing cromi. unfortunately i updated to jb before finding out that the jb bootloader blocks nvflash. My question is is there any brick protection other than nvflash? Also what kind of mistakes would i have to make in order to get a brick? Oh and one more question. Don't i need the most recent bootloader to install chromi anyway? Wouldn't that eliminate the possibility of using nvflash? sorry for all the newby questions but i want to make sure i fully understand this whole process before unlocking
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laod said:
I am very close to unlocking my tablet and installing cromi. unfortunately i updated to jb before finding out that the jb bootloader blocks nvflash. My question is is there any brick protection other than nvflash? Also what kind of mistakes would i have to make in order to get a brick? Oh and one more question. Don't i need the most recent bootloader to install chromi anyway? Wouldn't that eliminate the possibility of using nvflash? sorry for all the newby questions but i want to make sure i fully understand this whole process before unlocking
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I afraid nvflash is the only one. Most of people brick their device is due to their mistakes. Using an older version of custom recovery and try to wipe data is the main cause of 99.9% of bricking. Once you have the latest bootloader and the most recent or latest custom recovery (TWRP or CWM) you pretty much brick safe. I flashed over 10 times a week and I don't have nvflash. Don't be afraid go for it.
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I afraid nvflash is the only one. Most of people brick their device is due to their mistakes. Using an older version of custom recovery and try to wipe data is the main cause of 99.9% of bricking. Once you have the latest bootloader and the most recent or latest custom recovery (TWRP or CWM) you pretty much brick safe. I flashed over 10 times a week and I don't have nvflash. Don't be afraid go for it.
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Ok so pretty much wiping data only bricks if I have an older recovery right? Or does it brick if you wipe data at all?
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laod said:
Ok so pretty much wiping data only bricks if I have an older recovery right? Or does it brick if you wipe data at all?
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Yes, brick if use old recovery with JB bootloader. If you have the latest recovery and JB bootloader you can wipe what ever you want, should be fine. In the beginning just ask before you attempt to do anything, until you got the hang then you can be on your own.
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buhohitr said:
Yes, brick if use old recovery with JB bootloader. If you have the latest recovery and JB bootloader you can wipe what ever you want, should be fine. In the beginning just ask before you attempt to do anything, until you got the hang then you can be on your own.
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Thanks. So if I use GooManager it will install the latest twrp recovery right?
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laod said:
Thanks. So if I use GooManager it will install the latest twrp recovery right?
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It will only do so if your bootloader is unlocked and you are rooted. Otherwise you must fastboot the recovery. After fastbooting the recovery you should be good.
Tylor
Tylorw1 said:
It will only do so if your bootloader is unlocked and you are rooted. Otherwise you must fastboot the recovery. After fastbooting the recovery you should be good.
Tylor
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Ok good. Ya I already know how to install it. Just making sure it would install the latest version and I wouldn't have problems. So far I've found zero problems with the build quality and I haven't had any issues that would indicate a factory defect. Would it be safe to go ahead and unlock or should I wait a bit longer?
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laod said:
Ok good. Ya I already know how to install it. Just making sure it would install the latest version and I wouldn't have problems. So far I've found zero problems with the build quality and I haven't had any issues that would indicate a factory defect. Would it be safe to go ahead and unlock or should I wait a bit longer?
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I personally dont think you will have any problem whatsoever so go for it! But, There is always that chance so just make sure you follow everything step by step. And I think it is safe to unlock. I did so only after a month of being clueless and researching on xda and my tablet runs fine, except I enjoy experimenting so never have my tablet fully customized lol. Also cant wait for 4.2.1 Cromi!
Tylor
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I personally dont think you will have any problem whatsoever so go for it! But, There is always that chance so just make sure you follow everything step by step. And I think it is safe to unlock. I did so only after a month of being clueless and researching on xda and my tablet runs fine, except I enjoy experimenting so never have my tablet fully customized lol. Also cant wait for 4.2.1 Cromi!
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Lol I want to so badly but I'm paranoid since it cost so much
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laod said:
Lol I want to so badly but I'm paranoid since it cost so much
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Haha as was I, but it is worth it in the end. If you read all the reviews of tf700's being bricked, it is not because they unlocked and installed a custom recovery, it is later when they try flashing newer roms that are not compatible with their bootloaders and their recoveries that cause the britck. If everything is kept up to date, which I wait a week or so to make sure no one encounters problems before updating a recovery, then you should have no problems.
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Haha as was I, but it is worth it in the end. If you read all the reviews of tf700's being bricked, it is not because they unlocked and installed a custom recovery, it is later when they try flashing newer roms that are not compatible with their bootloaders and their recoveries that cause the britck. If everything is kept up to date, which I wait a week or so to make sure no one encounters problems before updating a recovery, then you should have no problems.
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Thanks. I think I'll downgrade to ics and root first. I know it will be worth it. It's just kind of scary. I have the latest bootloader so I shouldn't have issues from what I've read.
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laod said:
Thanks. I think I'll downgrade to ics and root first. I know it will be worth it. It's just kind of scary. I have the latest bootloader so I shouldn't have issues from what I've read.
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That may be your best bet. When I did it I just went and unlocked then flashed recovery through fast boot and that was it. I also recommend cromi/CleanRom by sbdags. It is indeed a piece of art compared to stock even though it is stock based.
Tylor
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Rom: CleanRom 3.4.4
That's the rom I was planning on going with.
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I'm on the brink of unlocking the bootloader on my TF300T (shipped with ICS; got it December 2012), but wanted to verify a couple things before taking the plunge.
I understand that OTA updates from Asus will no longer work. I also see that Asus has all their firmware updates available for direct download from their website - aside from losing root, are there any reasons why I can't use those manual updaters?
I read the "don't install CM10 yet on the 4.2 bootloader" sticky, so I'm not even going to try CM10 yet (although I saw an unofficial CM10.1 is compatible). Once it's compatible, is it worth flashing? I use CM on my phone (HTC Evo 4G) because I don't like Sense (and would have been stuck with Gingerbread!), but on the TF300T, Asus's ROM is generally pretty decent, so what is the advantage (if any)?
Right now, all I want to do is:
Unlock the bootloader using the official Asus APK
Install recovery using this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2187982
Root the stock ROM using the same thread
I've looked through the warning threads and most recent stuff here on XDA. Is there anything else I need to worry about, or does the above-referenced thread have me covered?
Anyone? I just want to make CERTAIN I'm covered before I take the plunge...
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Well you can root without unlocking if that's all you want to do. You'll get much more benefit unlocking and flashing a custom ROM though.
That guide has it all covered.
I thought with JB and the 4.2 bootloader, you had to unlock to root? Is that not true?
Everything I've seen about rooting indicates that you have to be running ICS to root; JB blocks the previous exploit that was used for rooting.
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I thought with JB and the 4.2 bootloader, you had to unlock to root? Is that not true?
Everything I've seen about rooting indicates that you have to be running ICS to root; JB blocks the previous exploit that was used for rooting.
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Bought the TF300 three days ago. Installed all OTA updates, latest bootloader. Rooted with Motofail, seems fine so far.
sbdags said:
Well you can root without unlocking if that's all you want to do. You'll get much more benefit unlocking and flashing a custom ROM though.
That guide has it all covered.
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Is there a particular ROM that's better than the stock JB? I especially like the built-in performance widgets in the notification bar in Asus's ROM. That being said, I could do without the crapware...
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batwingnz said:
Bought the TF300 three days ago. Installed all OTA updates, latest bootloader. Rooted with Motofail, seems fine so far.
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Do you have a link for the Motofail you used? I can't find one confirmed for the latest TF300T update.
ETA: I ended up using this: http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/t...roid-root-exploit-412/?pid=244281#entry244281
Worked perfectly on the latest Asus 4.2.1 build.
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Is there a particular ROM that's better than the stock JB? I especially like the built-in performance widgets in the notification bar in Asus's ROM. That being said, I could do without the crapware...
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