Is it possible to use Bluetooth mouse and keyboard with the RT or Pro simultaneously?
You'd want to use Mouse Without Borders or Synergy (will require "jailbreaking" the RT) to control two devices with one set of peripherals. Otherwise, no - Bluetooth peripherals can only be actively paired with one machine.
GoodDayToDie said:
You'd want to use Mouse Without Borders or Synergy (will require "jailbreaking" the RT) to control two devices with one set of peripherals. Otherwise, no - Bluetooth peripherals can only be actively paired with one machine.
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That's not true. My Surface Pro actively pairs with a BT mouse, a BT keyboard and a HTC phone (BT tethering) simultaneously without any issue. My Samsung GT 7.0 plus did the same thing.
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Is it possible to use Bluetooth mouse and keyboard with the RT or Pro simultaneously?
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Yep, and a few more peripherals as well. Can't remember the upper limit, but it's like 7 simultaneously? Something like that.
Brightxda said:
That's not true. My Surface Pro actively pairs with a BT mouse, a BT keyboard and a HTC phone (BT tethering) simultaneously without any issue. My Samsung GT 7.0 plus did the same thing.
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It's not just paring it simultaneously, but using it simultaneously. I don't want to buy a cover keyboard because I already have a wedge keyboard and mouse. I might be forced to buy the cover if I can't use my intended setup simultaneously.
Ah... I may have misinterpreted the request. It is of course possible to use multiple peripherals with one device at the same time. I thought you were asking about using the same peripherals with multiple devices at once (which is possible via software like Mouse Without Borders).
Stupid ambiguous English "or". I need to stop parsing sentences so literally. I didn't realize that one-device-many-peripherals was even soemthing somebody would ask about.
I use my Apple bluetooth keyboard and Magic Mouse together with my Surface Pro without any problems. ....well, there's one problem... the mouse lags big time when I'm downloading files over wifi. This is due to interference caused by 2.4Ghz wifi & bluetooth operating at the same time. There's no lag when I'm just browsing the web though.
lsquare said:
It's not just paring it simultaneously, but using it simultaneously. I don't want to buy a cover keyboard because I already have a wedge keyboard and mouse. I might be forced to buy the cover if I can't use my intended setup simultaneously.
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I meant use them simultaneously, not just pair.
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GoodDayToDie said:
Ah... I may have misinterpreted the request. It is of course possible to use multiple peripherals with one device at the same time. I thought you were asking about using the same peripherals with multiple devices at once (which is possible via software like Mouse Without Borders).
Stupid ambiguous English "or". I need to stop parsing sentences so literally. I didn't realize that one-device-many-peripherals was even soemthing somebody would ask about.
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You were right. I ever tried using one bt mouse to control two devices and failed. I thought you were talking the same question the op asked.
Brightxda said:
That's not true. My Surface Pro actively pairs with a BT mouse, a BT keyboard and a HTC phone (BT tethering) simultaneously without any issue. My Samsung GT 7.0 plus did the same thing.
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Thats 1 host connecting to many devices. GoodDay said its impossible for 1 device to connect to many hosts. Technically he is wrong as bluetooth slaves can have more than 1 master but this is very difficult to do and the HID profile for mice and keyboards does not support that either then making him right again.
But yeah. But otherwise yeah. A tablet or laptop or any other bluetooth master/host can connect to multiple devices/slaves at one time. One bluetooth adaptor should be able to connect to 7 other devices at once although some support less (this is rare).
Under normal conditions though a bluetooth mouse or keyboard (a slave device) cannot connect to more than one device AT ONE TIME. There are pieces of software which allow multiple PC's to share a mouse or keyboard though.
Ah cool, I didn't know that some BT profiles support multiple hosts active at once. I've only ever used mice and headsets, and the mice (didn't try the headsets) would need to be re-paired with the other computer if I wanted to switch which one it was connected to.
In any case, multiple clients was definitely supported, and this was in Vista. I'm sure Win8 has no issues there.
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Ah cool, I didn't know that some BT profiles support multiple hosts active at once
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Yeah, its a right pain in the ass to deal with though. Sometimes gets used in robotics. You probably wont ever find it in consumer use, most consumer applications for bluetooth just need the 1 host.
Another weird quirk in bluetooth is switching roles on the fly. 2 devices, ie 2 phones, can start a connection with one of them acting as master and the other as slave, mid way through communication they can then reverse that role. Seen that one used before.
Blue Ant has an earpiece that can pair to two phones at the same time. I used to have one. Had it paired with my work phone and personal phone. It had different ring tones for both phones. You could also switch between the phones while on a call if the other phone recieved a call.
i've tried logitech k400 with my surface - minikeyboard&touchpad-in-one. works perfect.
2nd solution: you can use any usb-hub to connect your favorite usb keyboard and mouse and even something else simultaneously. :good:
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I am interested in using the G Tablet as a thin client computing device. This would give me ultra-portability and all-day battery life. It would allow me to keep my personal life on the tablet and use remote desktop for business stuff. This way personal and business life coexists on the same device without security concerns. This isn't going to work though unless I basically make my tablet into a netbook.
I've done some research on bluetooth devices but don't have a working bluetooth mouse or keyboard yet, which is the reason for my post.
I have a Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 and so far have not been able to get it working. I tried VEGAn 5.1 and it connects but doesn't pair. I installed BlueInput for Android and couldn't get the mouse working with it either. See teksoftco.com for info on this app. It is supposed to add bluetooth HID support to Android 2.1 or newer.
I don't have a bluetooth keyboard yet - not worried about that until a mouse works.
I ordered a case with built-in USB keyboard and it is adequate. A clip blocks the mini USB port though, so I may do surgery on it to move it down a bit. The case is from witglobal.com.
Any suggestions on what ROM to work with to achieve my goal? Any other info from someone who may have this working?
I don't want to use a bluetooth device with a USB receiver - It'll just get lost or broken and be in the way. I have a dock and I think that is going to work out for my desk - just working on the mobile part.
BTW I really like the 2X Client for remote control. Only thing I am disappointed in so far is the audio doesn't seem to work.
Thanks All!
I have cyanogenmod 6.1 working with a HID mouse - no add-ons. Caveat now is getting the market working. I installed it per wiki instructions but no apps show up...off to more searching!
I use my Zpad (Malata T2) for exactly your purpose.
I guess the Zpad ROM supports this out of the box?? (I'm running the stock ROM).
My mouse is also the Microsoft 5000 Mouse (little white and black one). My keyboard is off ebay, here is the link (except I have the black one):
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/UItra-FLat-B...Peripherals&hash=item255f52af24#ht_3488wt_907
I use Xtralogic (by far the best RDP client)
At saying that it's not 100% perfect. Here is what doesn't work:
Delete Key
Ctrl C or V etc
Right Mouse Button (you can emulate by a long left press)
Mouse Wheel
Some special characters like; < > ^ ~ ` and probably others
Wifi & Bluetooth have issues working together, but 3G and Bluetooth is fine
I'd pay for a driver that fixes this if anyone knows of one.
Cheers, Mal
Thinking the Droid Charge supports the HID bluetooth profile, I purchased the Atrix keyboard; however, I cannot seem to pair it. I put the keyboard in pairing mode and then scan for Bluetooth devices. On the Charge I select the "Motorola Bluetooth Wireless Keyboard" from the menu and am given a message "Enter xxxxxx to pair with ...". This message disappears in less than a second and I'm given the error message "Unable to establish communication with ...". I never have the chance to enter the code on the keyboard ...
Any thoughts? Thanks for your help.
I believe I read somewhere that this was supposed to support the HID profile out of the box I'm not 100% sure though. You could try one of the HID drivers from the marketplace I think one is called blueinput or something similar. Post back if you get it working cause I would really like to have a wireless mini keyboard for this phone as well.
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i'm not sure if this is helpful, but I paired a bluetooth mouse with my Charge, using no special drivers. I would like to know if a bluetooth keyboard would work with it though.
ddh819 said:
i'm not sure if this is helpful, but I paired a bluetooth mouse with my Charge, using no special drivers. I would like to know if a bluetooth keyboard would work with it though.
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If you can get a mouse to work without having any special drivers/apps to support it then it at least means that the phone does support HID protocols which would mean that generic bluetooth keyboards should work. If the keyboard requires some sort of special driver that is installed after pairing it most likely won't work, though.
Shortbusdriver said:
If you can get a mouse to work without having any special drivers/apps to support it then it at least means that the phone does support HID protocols which would mean that generic bluetooth keyboards should work. If the keyboard requires some sort of special driver that is installed after pairing it most likely won't work, though.
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I should clarify and update this - the device I have is a bluetooth presentation remote/mouse. It can switch between mouse mode and presenter mode. It works for a few minutes, but then loses connection. It works fine with a computer, so I don't think there's a problem with the remote.
You can connect the Charge to BT keyboard and don't have to root..
Thanks to another member TylerMF you CAN probably pair the Atrix (also for Xoom) keyboard.
See his thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28133531#post28133531
He connected his BT keyboard to an Evo successfully.
I have a Samsung CHARGE and I had the same struggle, but followed his instructions and am now connected to both the Atrix/Xoom keyboard and a Logitech bluetooth mouse.
Very nice!
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I bought this $20 keyboard on eBay and it is working in both webOS and Android. In webOS, the bluetooth "wizard" will display a "key" and you type that "key" on the bt keyboard and press enter. In Android settings, you first type a "key" via the Android "on screen" keyboard and touch OK, and then type the same "key" on the bt keyboard and press enter.
Most bluetooth keyboards and mice are HID compliant so they will work. The Touchpad keyboard loads a generic Microsoft HID driver when I connect it to my laptop.
spunker88 said:
Most bluetooth keyboards and mice are HID compliant so they will work. The Touchpad keyboard loads a generic Microsoft HID driver when I connect it to my laptop.
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That's nice to know. I sure wish somebody had assured me of that when I was searching this site for what to buy. Where were you then?
lewmur said:
That's nice to know. I sure wish somebody had assured me of that when I was searching this site for what to buy. Where were you then?
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I'm with you. When I tried this forum for what keyboard, I certainly didn't get that reassurance.
Bought it, works great!
I grabbed this exact keyboard to use for longer email and work messages. It paired easily and works wonderfully. My touchpad just got more useful!
I got a different one that works pretty good as well (designed for ipad though) and it only works in the CM9 ICS bricked rom that I have installed, not on webOS or CM7. Is a very nice keyboard + case just faces the same troubles most of these cases do (not latching the separating parts together when closed) but it is very good non the less.. Link here: http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Ge...C16W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1329163864&sr=8-1
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I got one as well (designed for ipad I reckon) and it only works on the CM9 ICS bricked rom that I have installed, not on webOS or CM7. Is a very nice keyboard + case just faces the same troubles most of these cases do (not latching the separating parts together when closed) but it is very good non the less.. Link here: http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Ge...C16W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1329163864&sr=8-1
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Your post makes it sound like you got the one I linked and you didn't. Don't know why the one you did get doesn't work with CM7 or webOS, but the one I linked does. And it cost less than $20 shipped.
Yea I rephrased my statement, not the best with words sometimes. The case and keyboard I got (mainly got because it had to withstand the kids getting it) is more expensive, but instead of starting a new thread though I would share some experiences with BT keyboard (pros and cons) instead of starting another thread about the one I got.
Yes just about any blueetooth keyboard should work. I got this a couple months ago and it works great, plus has a little joystick for a mouse, which works well in CM7 but even better in ICS.
You can use a mouse on this? Does it display on screen?
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You can use a mouse on this? Does it display on screen?
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In CM7 and CM9 a standard HID bluetooth mouse will work with a cursor, the scroll wheel will also work. I'm not sure if it would work in WebOS.
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You can use a mouse on this? Does it display on screen?
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Yes, there's a cursor that displays on the screen in CM7 or CM9. In webos the mouse just spits out random characters when you try and use it.
GSI - Mini Bluetooth Wireless Notebook Laptop Optical Mouse
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002BZYBZC/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8
i bought this mouse off amazon....it is HID and connects to ics but wen connected i see a cursor for one split second then it disappears and the mouse will not work.if i could get a link to a proper mouse that is proven that would be most helpful. also wen i had cm7 on tp the mouse would connect cursor would show and "work" but was very flighty and unmanageable. would love to find the right mouse for tp so splashtop would be in full effect.
Hi,
I did not see any topic about mouse for the surface rt.
Well, my question is which mouse can i use on my rt without use the USB port.
I know, the microsoft mouse, but 70 euros for this tactical mouse... i think it's a bit expensive for it. does exist any alternantive?
well thank's for any answer
Any standard bluetooth mouse, any standard USB mouse.
Or basically 99.9% of modern mice.
Only reason there is no topic is because it is pretty obvious that x mouse will work. There is nothing special about how windows RT handles mice. Only thing to watch out for are additional device drivers if your mouse has macro buttons etc, but even my RAT5 works fine in standard USB mode, I just dont get to replrogram the macros. WiFi mice are out of the window (and damn rare) because they require special device drivers which you cant install on the RT. Serial mice are also out the window. PS/2 mice can be used with USB adaptors (as can keyboards). Wireless mice with the little USB recievers are fine, bluetooth mice are fine, regular wired USB mice are fine.
SixSixSevenSeven said:
Any standard bluetooth mouse, any standard USB mouse.
Or basically 99.9% of modern mice.
Only reason there is no topic is because it is pretty obvious that x mouse will work. There is nothing special about how windows RT handles mice. Only thing to watch out for are additional device drivers if your mouse has macro buttons etc, but even my RAT5 works fine in standard USB mode, I just dont get to replrogram the macros. WiFi mice are out of the window (and damn rare) because they require special device drivers which you cant install on the RT. Serial mice are also out the window. PS/2 mice can be used with USB adaptors (as can keyboards). Wireless mice with the little USB recievers are fine, bluetooth mice are fine, regular wired USB mice are fine.
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thank's for you answer but you don't answer to my question, maybe i dont explain my problem.
i search a wireless mouse to use without any receiver. The official mouse use the Bluetooth, and i did not know that, but now it's ok and i can search a bluethooth mouse ^^
i know that all usb mouse work fine, i use it at the moment ^^
is the bluetooth burn the battery ?
Bluetooth is specifically meant to utilise little power. It will impact your battery life but it shouldn't be massively so. WiFi uses far far more energy, screen brightness would also make a bigger difference to battery life than whether bluetooth is on or off I reckon.
If you want to know how much difference it will make, perhaps see if you can get your phone to pair with the RT and then mess about from there. It wont be a completely realistic test as there will be more data transfer between a mouse (which always sends some data even when not moving, albeit at a slower rate) than a phone which is paired but not doing anything.
You can buy mice which use Bluetooth 4.0, off the top of my head I dont know if the surface RT supports 4.0, if it does I would try to find a 4.0 mouse as there are additional energy savings in 4.0 if you are really concerned.
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Bluetooth is specifically meant to utilise little power. It will impact your battery life but it shouldn't be massively so. WiFi uses far far more energy, screen brightness would also make a bigger difference to battery life than whether bluetooth is on or off I reckon.
If you want to know how much difference it will make, perhaps see if you can get your phone to pair with the RT and then mess about from there. It wont be a completely realistic test as there will be more data transfer between a mouse (which always sends some data even when not moving, albeit at a slower rate) than a phone which is paired but not doing anything.
You can buy mice which use Bluetooth 4.0, off the top of my head I dont know if the surface RT supports 4.0, if it does I would try to find a 4.0 mouse as there are additional energy savings in 4.0 if you are really concerned.
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Thank's for this helpfull answer.
Well, im not really focus on the battery life of my surface RT, but, i don't want to loose of its advantage : battery life.
So well, now it's ok, i will see to buy a Bluetooth mouse.
I see the logitech around 40 euros and a microsoft around 25 euros. The price is better, and it seems to be more friendly user, than this tactical mouse...
Hello,
The device is Tronsmart MK908II, wireless keyboard is this: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6271301163.html
The problem is that there is a lag between the keyboard commands and the response of the device. For example as you wiggle your finger on the touchpad on the keyboard, cursor on the TV screen does not reflect correctly and on time, and the same with keystrokes. Especially if the distance between me and the TV stick is more than one meter is almost impossible to perceive commands.
At first I thought it was the keyboard, but after I connected it to the computer, I saw that it works absolutely perfectly, even from a distance of 5-6 meters, there is no delay when you press buttons. Unfortunately, not so with the tv stic... Pls tell me what to do ??? The device has the last Android 4.2.2 version, there is no newest at the moment. Does it need to install a program to respond better wireless keyboards? The keyboard come without software, just plug and play.
Help pls!
Keyboards are a drama! I use droidmote to control my sticks via tablet or phone. The stick needs to be rooted and you install a serverapp on it which you connect to via Wi-Fi from your client app on your other devices. Once working I ditch my keyboard.
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rhtizzy said:
Keyboards are a drama! I use droidmote to control my sticks via tablet or phone. The stick needs to be rooted and you install a serverapp on it which you connect to via Wi-Fi from your client app on your other devices. Once working I ditch my keyboard.
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I fixed the problem! I use a different port on the device, which is micro USB. Use transitions and include in it the keypad transmitter. Apparently the standard USB does not have enough power to supply it correctly.
Nice catch! Thanks for the update
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