Hi,
I bought a new battery and I believe it's fake as it doesn't lost much (1 day) with my current usage (email is downloading, under 30 minutes of phone talk, a couple of SMSs, a couple of webapges opened).
Could you, please, tell me this:
Approximately the batter life when your phone was brand new
Approximately the current battery live
Time since you bought the phone
Time it take to charge your phone to 100% (does your phone charge really fast to about 60% and then very slow to 100%?
Thank you very much
1. something around 2 days, not 100% sure but it was something around this
2. Current according to GSam battery monitor is 22h 20m, but that's now because I'm addicted to parking game, this is what kills it so fast, normally is again something around 2 day(a little less than before)
3. 1 Year and 3 months +/- one month
4. This I have no idea, I just leave it on the charger and don't track this. Next time I'll check it out and let you know what's up with this.
Now something more, according to one user from another forum(It's Bulgarian, so I won't give you link here). Now he says that when the phone was new, he did 10-15 full cikles of the battery(0-100-0) without charging in between, now he is really happy, I'll post screenshot later, that his phone stayed On for something around 7 days, mine even in the cupboard doesn't do that. Here is the screen
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shortyoko said:
1. something around 2 days, not 100% sure but it was something around this
2. Current according to GSam battery monitor is 22h 20m, but that's now because I'm addicted to parking game, this is what kills it so fast, normally is again something around 2 day(a little less than before)
3. 1 Year and 3 months +/- one month
4. This I have no idea, I just leave it on the charger and don't track this. Next time I'll check it out and let you know what's up with this.
Now something more, according to one user from another forum(It's Bulgarian, so I won't give you link here). Now he says that when the phone was new, he did 10-15 full cikles of the battery(0-100-0) without charging in between, now he is really happy, I'll post screenshot later, that his phone stayed On for something around 7 days, mine even in the cupboard doesn't do that. Here is the screen
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OWWWWWWWW.. 7days.. i think its fake..
I guess he hasn't rooted it.
shree alwaz said:
OWWWWWWWW.. 7days.. i think its fake..
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And, probably, has only rarely used. it.
Its totally fake as you can see the cpu was awake most of the time....You won't get that battery life even if you keep your phone idle.........I get near 2days.....
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I agree..I thought shortYoko himself got that battery @ First glance and was confused.
Further more *stock Rom *landscape mode battery chart *~never remember seeing like that ~May be wrong.
"If it's not now, then it's when"?
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on-topic
@ shree alwaz, @ vineethraj49, @ abhinavthms, and @ ptcpayme ... could you, please, share with us your thoughts related to this threads original question? (if yes, please structure your answer as I did with the question)
Thank you very much
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veverone said:
Hi,
I bought a new battery and I believe it's fake as it doesn't lost much (1 day) with my current usage (email is downloading, under 30 minutes of phone talk, a couple of SMSs, a couple of webapges opened).
Could you, please, tell me this:
Approximately the batter life when your phone was brand new
Approximately the current battery live
Time since you bought the phone
Time it take to charge your phone to 100% (does your phone charge really fast to about 60% and then very slow to 100%?
Thank you very much
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1.approx 18 hours.
When installed cranium ~approx 1 and half days
Overnight 100 to 97 in cranium (with internet off )
2. Currently on cm10 beta5,garuda kernel ~30%+ lost overnight .
On really heavy usage(no Wi-Fi, mobile data full downloading, screen always on,xdaing,gaming) 3 to 4 hours Max [email protected] this rate ~average 2 hours only
4. Not sure ~but probably a hour or so.. sometimes that happens ~I call it stuck @60 syndrome (but it gets stuck @ various other places 39,59 are commons )
3. Around a year.
"If it's not now, then it's when"?
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Yep agree with ^ptc... doesn't look legit
I remember getting a good 26-27 hours with music of about 1-2 hours + 24*7 2g + autobrightness ... I remember once in a dire situation managed to pull it through for 34 hours with minimum brightness and full drain..
No livewallpapers no launchers.. Just stock with a few apps like whatsapp and facebook.. Thats about it.
Now battery life is about 20 hours.. moderate - light usage ( on my own MiUI build #3.. got better battery with cm10 sometimes )..
My phone is about 11 months old now
last question.. I dont know. dont keep track of it while charging..
I manage to pull through about 24-30 hrs with little bit of wifi here and there.....
If not using wifi i get upto 40hrs.......
Our pico has awesome battery anyway.....:fingers-crossed:
Re: [Q] Do you remember the new phone battery life?
1. Around 2 days with moderate usage of Wi-Fi and phone calls, and some gaming.
2. Lasts for a day, with moderate Wi-Fi usage, music and calling for about 30 minutes or so.
3. 9 months.
4. Nope. It increases uniformly.
Sent from my HTC Explorer A310e using xda app-developers app
Well honestly saying, even I don't know, maybe it's fake I can't be sure but there are couple more of this pic's. And yes that's totally stock rom, he haven't rooted his phone even now(the pic is from 04.04.2012 or at least then was uploaded). Here are a bit more of this pic's http://gl.belgarionbg.info/di-513288169517.jpg , I know it's states 5 days only but now I couldn't find more of the 7 days usage, these 2 are in the same post with the 7 days http://gl.belgarionbg.info/di-1113387624443.jpg http://gl.belgarionbg.info/di-1213387624448.jpg About that the guy sayed that this is with very little usage, I have no explenation, mine even left somewhere can't do this.
@ptcpayme- Yes there was landscape mode in stock rom, I mean the pic still can be fake, but the landscape is not.
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Well honestly saying, even I don't know, maybe it's fake I can't be sure but there are couple more of this pic's. And yes that's totally stock rom, he haven't rooted his phone even now(the pic is from 04.04.2012 or at least then was uploaded). Here are a bit more of this pic's http://gl.belgarionbg.info/di-513288169517.jpg , I know it's states 5 days only but now I couldn't find more of the 7 days usage, these 2 are in the same post with the 7 days http://gl.belgarionbg.info/di-1113387624443.jpg http://gl.belgarionbg.info/di-1213387624448.jpg About that the guy sayed that this is with very little usage, I have no explenation, mine even left somewhere can't do this.
@ptcpayme- Yes there was landscape mode in stock rom, I mean the pic still can be fake, but the landscape is not.
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I know landscape is in stock Rom, but what I'm not sure is that
usually system settings and battery chart can't be landscaped as far as I remember.
From what I know ,
battery calibration is fake*confirmed by google itself *.
I know this kind of 0 to 100 and 100 to 0 for 15 cycles should kill your battery rather than enhancing it. ( I'm daily doing it,~I only charge, when it drops to 0)
I've heard about a thing called bump charging HTC batteries, which goes something like severely overcharging to break some kind of barrier in the Lion battery *which will reduce long term battery life *but enhance battery time alive *~I don't know whether this point is true ~
But this is outrageous.
Obviously the first picture is edited. Even so, display takes only 2%?. And if you split the bottom part into two, you get 2.5 days, ~ In 2.5 days on the right , he turned screen on the only 8/9 times? ~practically thrown the phone in cupboard.
And he charged inbetween about 30%
And what about other apps? ~if you're downloading as much apps like it's shown~atleast google play should take some amount of charge,which should be shown.
2nd screenshot:
Time since boot: 341 hours? That's 14days? What's he suggesting?
Even if he admits he changed his battery,it's hard to accept this,unless someone I know~ you /some renowned member here proves otherwise.
Only possible way, I think he just put the maximum frequency @122 mhz and thrown the phone in cupboard~even then, I'm not sure it's possible ~
However there's nothing in this screenshot that I can see to prove that this is fake.
Anyway what's his point in showing all this? And what's the app showing battery in the top left?
"If it's not now, then it's when"?
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veverone said:
Hi,
I bought a new battery and I believe it's fake as it doesn't lost much (1 day) with my current usage (email is downloading, under 30 minutes of phone talk, a couple of SMSs, a couple of webapges opened).
Could you, please, tell me this:
Approximately the batter life when your phone was brand new
Approximately the current battery live
Time since you bought the phone
Time it take to charge your phone to 100% (does your phone charge really fast to about 60% and then very slow to 100%?
Thank you very much
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1. when i brought it lasts about 1day to 1.5day
2. ma battery life is approx. 20 to 1day. im using apex rom v1. i never swithchoff the internet, music atleast for 5hrs, wifi for 1/2 hr to 1hr.
3. more than 1year.
4. while charging till 60 to 70%(i dont remember exactly) it chanrges in an 1/2hr. after that it takes at least 2 to 3 hrs to get full change..
dont be thankful. hit hit that button.
Re: [Q] Do you remember the new phone battery life?
My battery last about 14 hours of average use like music 2-3 hours , always connected to WiFi or else if I'm out I use 3G. Sometimes , mostly while travelling I watch Sone episodes of batman (Arround 20 min ) with headphones plugged in .
I prefer to charge at night , and it last till 9 pm at night , well that enough for me .
But as when I was using flyrom v3 , it lasted for about 9-10 hours on the same usage .
I'm using currently stock rom and juice defender which had improved my battery life Arround 5-10 % ,
Well if tour fond of your battery , then I recommend using stock Rom as battery was te only reson I flashed back to stock .
My phone charges extremely fast , it's like fully charged from 0%-100% within 90-100 minutes .
And our pico has a better battery life than desire HD or sensation XE.
I've tried both for a week and pico lasts for about 1 day on single charge whereas desire HD NEEDED a charge every 6-7 hours if connected to WiFi and using facebook , browsing a few web pages.
Regards
Via HTC Sense
@Blue3125- Can you add, is there landscape in battery stats since you are with stock rom, not that it's something important, I just got really curious.
@ptcpayme- Now I see your logic and yea, you are damn wright about your toughts, I've given the dude link to this thread, if he has some balls, he should register and tell us how did he do that, if not, well it's obvious fake(more obvious than now). Just about 'time since boot', I think that's the time while the phone was never restarted or switched off(which also I can never do, but maybe it's possible with stock rom). But nevermind.
Now something on topic for a change . I've checked out, my battery also stucks somewhere while charging (this time at 72%), also I've discovered that to get from 97% to 100% takes a bit more than getting from 80% to 90% (these two are just for example). This is while charging from PC, can somebody tell is there any difference if we charge it from a wall socket(I lost mine some months ago), except faster charge of course.
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shortyoko said:
@Blue3125- Can you add, is there landscape in battery stats since you are with stock rom, not that it's something important, I just got really curious.
@ptcpayme- Now I see your logic and yea, you are damn wright about your toughts, I've given the dude link to this thread, if he has some balls, he should register and tell us how did he do that, if not, well it's obvious fake(more obvious than now). Just about 'time since boot', I think that's the time while the phone was never restarted or switched off(which also I can never do, but maybe it's possible with stock rom). But nevermind.
Now something on topic for a change . I've checked out, my battery also stucks somewhere while charging (this time at 72%), also I've discovered that to get from 97% to 100% takes a bit more than getting from 80% to 90% (these two are just for example). This is while charging from PC, can somebody tell is there any difference if we charge it from a wall socket(I lost mine some months ago), except faster charge of course.
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Well I've now flashed sense 4 so as far as I know , there wasn't any landscape graph if we switch orientation so that screenshot is probably fake
Well battery on apex sense Rom is aweful , not more than 4-6 hours
But anything is far in love , war and sense 4 on my pico XD
Regards
Sent from my HTC Explorer using xda premium
shortyoko said:
I've given the dude link to this thread, if he has some balls, he should register and tell us how did he do that, if not, well it's obvious fake(more obvious than now).
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Wow, just wow. You are a liar.
The truth is I didn`t receive such message from you on our android forum, because if I did I would wreck you with proofs, that is why you didn`t give it to me, isn`t it!
I just found this thread by random search. So may be later but better than never I will use my right to defend myself.
Btw the original thread that I shared my experience with the battery life is here- link The screens are long gone, still have them somewhere.
Here you can see that I`m the said owner of the Explorer
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And yes, that nick came from my first smartphone which was that Explorer. Still use it today - still have great battery life.
I was going to post brutal amount of screenshots but to avoid chances of fake accusation I decided to take video instead. So here it is >
https://youtu.be/CkqIOf7UvOI /I`m posting the direct link because [YOUTUBE] tag didn`t work/
I have not rooted the phone as you can see, but I`m using the NEXT shell instead of the boring sense.
In the beginning of 2012 I managed to hit that record with over 7 days of use, never made it again thought. But something like ~5 days? - Easy! It never occurred to me that somewhere someone would named me as someone making fake claimings, otherwise I would make some videos at that time.
BleedingIris said:
Time since boot: 341 hours? That's 14days? What's he suggesting?
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That number is about how many hours are gone by after the last restart/turn off the phone.
If you still want more proof just tell me what you want to do with it. Its not a problem to give you access through virtual machine (safety first) with the phone connected and be able to install stuff and check it all you want. That still would not change the great battery life.
And no, his place in not in some cupboard - this is my office phone. Its just that I rarely using it for talking, also I`m not using internet - for that I have my HTC 601.
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Insert whiny post about how much my battery life sucks.
Now that I've just rooted my Inspire, are there any fixes that are available that will help improve battery life? I am using the RCDMix3D rom, and my phone barely lasts 6 hours. I take all of the suggested actions like turning off bluetooth, gps, wifi, autosync, and background data, but it doesn't seem to help much. I even bought a 1600mAH battery, which lasts no longer than the standard 1230mAH one.
So, looking for anything I can flash, or download, or whatever that will help improve it. Good battery life is something I really need in a phone, and the Inspire's is the one thing that is making me consider switching phones. (which I'd rather not do, I love this phone!)
Thanks!
honestly if you are only getting six hourse with the setup you have, im tempted to say something is wrong with your phone......
unless you are getting 4 or more hours of screen-on time. how much screen on time?
i was getting 15 hours out of the box with 2 hours of screen on. now with leedroid, slightly underclocked, im getting about 24 hours with 3 hours screen time.
oFUNGUSo said:
honestly if you are only getting six hourse with the setup you have, im tempted to say something is wrong with your phone......
unless you are getting 4 or more hours of screen-on time. how much screen on time?
i was getting 15 hours out of the box with 2 hours of screen on. now with leedroid, slightly underclocked, im getting about 24 hours with 3 hours screen time.
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OP, if you're talking 6 hours to go from 100% to 0%, you've got something else going on. Big time. Especially of you're turning off all that stuff and *still* only getting 6 hours.
Now, if you had the screen on that entire time, I'd actually say you have great battery life, but I suspect that's not the case.
If it happens with both of your batteries, there has to be something else running on your phone, perhaps as a background service, that's sucking that much juice.
@ OP:
I get like 1 hour call per 18-20% battery on 3G/H. So 6 hours of call time from 100 to 0 is good in my opinion.
If not on calls: I did a stress test 2 days back. I got ~6.5 hours display time for movies from 100 to 5% battery with display at 25%.
So like people pointed out above, unless u r continuously on calls or having display on for atleast 3-4 hours with data transfer on 3g/h, something is wrong.
Here are my normal stats:
1 hour calls, 2 hours display exclusively with data transfer, all these on 3G/H, with about 12 hours standby, I come home with about 35-40% battery left.
I agree with the posters above there is definitely something wrong. Slightly UC & UV I get 6-7h screen time.
elijahpr said:
Insert whiny post about how much my battery life sucks.
Now that I've just rooted my Inspire, are there any fixes that are available that will help improve battery life? I am using the RCDMix3D rom, and my phone barely lasts 6 hours. I take all of the suggested actions like turning off bluetooth, gps, wifi, autosync, and background data, but it doesn't seem to help much. I even bought a 1600mAH battery, which lasts no longer than the standard 1230mAH one.
So, looking for anything I can flash, or download, or whatever that will help improve it. Good battery life is something I really need in a phone, and the Inspire's is the one thing that is making me consider switching phones. (which I'd rather not do, I love this phone!)
Thanks!
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A lot of testing with legitimate lab equipment has proven that ProdiCell batteries are not actually 1600mah, rather 1060mah which is actually lower than stock. Sorry if you bought one of their batteries.
I wasn't able to find the blog I was reading last night, but I can link you to the amazon comment thread where I first started my online research. >> Link <<
Yikes, that would suck if it was something wrong with the phone. I bought it off someone and was practically brand new, but I think it is out of warranty now.
It did this both before and after I had rooted my phone, so I'm not sure what background processes there could be that would be causing this? I know that some of the AT&T bloatware was always running in the background before (like Blockbuster), but I have since removed all of that crap.
I planned on doing some stress-testing today just to see. So far it has been unplugged for 56 minutes with 15 minutes of display time on, a 3 minute phone call, and using the internet for 5 minutes. Also sent/received about 20 SMS. Battery is at 94%.
Maybe I will switch back to the stock battery that came with the phone and see if there is any improvement. The one I am using now is meant for an HTC Desire, but I had read that those with an Inspire were able to use it with improvements. Not sure what brand makes it, but I do know it came from eBay That could be it by itself hah.
elijahpr said:
Yikes, that would suck if it was something wrong with the phone. I bought it off someone and was practically brand new, but I think it is out of warranty now.
It did this both before and after I had rooted my phone, so I'm not sure what background processes there could be that would be causing this? I know that some of the AT&T bloatware was always running in the background before (like Blockbuster), but I have since removed all of that crap.
I planned on doing some stress-testing today just to see. So far it has been unplugged for 56 minutes with 15 minutes of display time on, a 3 minute phone call, and using the internet for 5 minutes. Also sent/received about 20 SMS. Battery is at 94%.
Maybe I will switch back to the stock battery that came with the phone and see if there is any improvement. The one I am using now is meant for an HTC Desire, but I had read that those with an Inspire were able to use it with improvements. Not sure what brand makes it, but I do know it came from eBay That could be it by itself hah.
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Have you tried a battery calibration? It's easy to do manually, but there's a convenient app on market called, wait for it... battery calibration, that makes it a one-click process.
I really doubt it's the phone hardware itself. Probably some combo of battery/calibration/rom/kernel/radio.
BTW, the phone just came out in mid-February, so technically it's not out of warranty. It's like a year or year and a half or something.
I'll try that app for sure. Thanks!
When I called HTC in May to order replacement battery/SIM door covers, they said my warranty would run out in the next month. Maybe the CS rep was a moron.
Do a fresh install and calibrate your battery. Use titanium backup to freeze user apps. Add your apps one by one to find out which apps are hogging your battery. Also, try charging it before you go to bed. Take it off the charger, and when you wake, check to see if your phone uses more than 1% battery per hour.
Sent from my Inspire 4G running TPGB Ninja
Also make sure to turn off WiFi & mobile data when not using it, that will extend your charge.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA Premium App
dxwilliams40 said:
Do a fresh install and calibrate your battery. Use titanium backup to freeze user apps. Add your apps one by one to find out which apps are hogging your battery. Also, try charging it before you go to bed. Take it off the charger, and when you wake, check to see if your phone uses more than 1% battery per hour.
Sent from my Inspire 4G running TPGB Ninja
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I literally just rooted/flashed my ROM yesterday. I charged the phone back up to 100% today and used that calibration app, and so far it seems to have helped. It definitely uses more than 1% an hour. So far it's at 45% after having been unplugged for 5 hours and 37 minutes, with 2 hours and 4 minutes of display time, 10 minutes of phone calls on 3G, sent/received about 100 texts, checked/downloaded about 20 emails, and taken 10 or so pictures.
Of course, WiFi/Background data/auto-sync/bluetooth/GPS are off, and brightness is at about 40%.
I've got a weird one on this particular battery cycle. I used the battery calibration app before I went to sleep last night and unplugged the phone at 100% charge. While I was asleep...the dialer used 16% of my battery according to my battery stats and the total battery was down into the 60%'s...I searched google, and other sources / forums report a reboot fixes it, and the issue likely occured from a "Wake Lock State" occuring at my last previous phone call the previous evening...ugh hell of a bug...I haven't rebooted it yet, and still notice even plugging and unplugging all day dialer still in low teens for batt. %...seems to be an Android thing although thre seemed to be a preponderance of HTC's...but they are popular devices and there was a Samsung tablet in there with the same thing...
I just got a whole day with 3 hours screen time and gmail and htc sense getting updates, more than 100 texts and 40 minutes of calls and wifi on half the time the battery on this phone is awesome. At night i get maybe 2-3% drain in about 7 hours. I suggest you find a ROM with some UV capabilities, the ones with the oc/uv daemon are great as they already have the settings built in.
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I just got a whole day with 3 hours screen time and gmail and htc sense getting updates, more than 100 texts and 40 minutes of calls and wifi on half the time the battery on this phone is awesome. At night i get maybe 2-3% drain in about 7 hours. I suggest you find a ROM with some UV capabilities, the ones with the oc/uv daemon are great as they already have the settings built in.
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Wow, that's pretty good. What ROM are you using?
Doing a nandroid backup, and then gonna flash Gingerbeast after work to see if battery improves or not.
That's another weird thing about my phone; one of the places I work my shifts are only 4 hours long. I go in and the battery is at about 95% because I've been streaming music on the way there. I come out, and it's down to 30%, or less. The funny part is I don't even get a cell signal down there, and when I do I send and receive maybe 20 texts during that time. Nothing else. Don't even turn the display on aside from that.
So, for Gingerbeast, is there a different kernel I need to flash? I was reading a little about it, but as I am still new to this whole thing, I'm not entirely sure what that is. Do I just flash it using CWM? I downloaded one from LordMod that is supposed to help.
Thanks again all!
elijahpr said:
Doing a nandroid backup, and then gonna flash Gingerbeast after work to see if battery improves or not.
That's another weird thing about my phone; one of the places I work my shifts are only 4 hours long. I go in and the battery is at about 95% because I've been streaming music on the way there. I come out, and it's down to 30%, or less. The funny part is I don't even get a cell signal down there, and when I do I send and receive maybe 20 texts during that time. Nothing else. Don't even turn the display on aside from that.
So, for Gingerbeast, is there a different kernel I need to flash? I was reading a little about it, but as I am still new to this whole thing, I'm not entirely sure what that is. Do I just flash it using CWM? I downloaded one from LordMod that is supposed to help.
Thanks again all!
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Someone asked which ROM I'm using, its the one in my Sig...when you dont have signal I would put it in airplane mode because your phone will search and search for a signal and that kills battery fast.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App
elijahpr said:
Doing a nandroid backup, and then gonna flash Gingerbeast after work to see if battery improves or not.
That's another weird thing about my phone; one of the places I work my shifts are only 4 hours long. I go in and the battery is at about 95% because I've been streaming music on the way there. I come out, and it's down to 30%, or less. The funny part is I don't even get a cell signal down there, and when I do I send and receive maybe 20 texts during that time. Nothing else. Don't even turn the display on aside from that.
So, for Gingerbeast, is there a different kernel I need to flash? I was reading a little about it, but as I am still new to this whole thing, I'm not entirely sure what that is. Do I just flash it using CWM? I downloaded one from LordMod that is supposed to help.
Thanks again all!
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The reason why you are losing so much battery is your phone is trying to connect to a tower in order to gain service. Switch to airplane mode when at work.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA Premium App
elijahpr said:
The funny part is I don't even get a cell signal down there
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There's the culprit!!! When phone does not have proper signal, it increases the radio power so that it may not lose connection. And when connection comes in, and is good enough, it starts to slowly scale down the power to the radio.
Hahaha, that's awesome. I was thinking the exact same thing as the three posts above me when I was working today... kind of an "oh, duh!" moment, then I come back and check the thread and ya'll confirmed it.
Flashing Gingerbeast right now, so hopefully that will show if it's the ROM or my hardware that's causing the battery drain. Gonna try it out for the rest of the day, though I will miss my Sense 3.0
Ok guys, I'm writing this just out of my excitement and will need further investigation and testing but so far that is what happened:
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Allright --> 34 hours on with the ORIGINAL Htc battery from 91% to 15% !! Unbelivable!
Off course the usage has been quite light:
- ALWAYS Wi-Fi + GSM on except while sleeping (I usually keep the phone on flight mode)
- I had a few calls over wi-fi (let's say about 30min)
- I answered to some messages (let's say 20) both over 3G and wi-fi
- I played 45 min of random games (mostly Apparatus)
- I used FB for about 1 hour
- I browsed for about 25min
- I used eBay app for about 10min
Usually I have a moderate use and I hardly can get through the day without charging (I try to keep the phone as much away from the charger as I can..) and this is why yesterday I ordered a 3rd part 1900mAh battery (I'm giving it a shot with the Anker one)
However..what I did (that I usually don't) was simply chargin the phone from the USB of my PC instead then plugging it into the wall socket..! I know it takes forever to have a full charge from the PC..and that is why I never did it before...!
So..I don't know if it was the "different source of energy"but otherwise I have NO idea why it should have lasted that long!
I'm going to charge it right now for the second time from my PC to see if all the above were just bullshits or have any sense wish me good luck..will report back tomorrow or hopefully the day after!
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Ok guys, I'm writing this just out of my excitement and will need further investigation and testing but so far that is what happened:
Allright --> 34 hours on with the ORIGINAL Htc battery from 91% to 15% !! Unbelivable!
Off course the usage has been quite light:
- ALWAYS Wi-Fi + GSM on except while sleeping (I usually keep the phone on flight mode)
- I had a few calls over wi-fi (let's say about 30min)
- I answered to some messages (let's say 20) both over 3G and wi-fi
- I played 20 min of random games (mostly Apparatus)
- I used FB for about 1 hour
- I browsed for about 25min
- I used eBay app for about 10min
Usually I have a moderate use and I hardly can get through the day without charging (I try to keep the phone as much away from the charger as I can..) and this is why yesterday I ordered a 3rd part 1900mAh battery (I'm giving it a shot with the Anker one)
However..what I did (that I usually don't) was simply chargin the phone from the USB of my PC instead then plugging it into the wall socket..! I know it takes forever to have a full charge from the PC..and that is why I never did it before...!
So..I don't know if it was the "different source of energy"but otherwise I have NO idea why it should have lasted that long!
I'm going to charge it right now for the second time from my PC to see if all the above were just bullshits or have any sense wish me good luck..will report back tomorrow or hopefully the day after!
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good luck and i was thinking of ordering anker battery but lets see the result first then i will consider buying depending on the result.
Not to make your results look bad or anything but...
Original battery, running Android Revolution HD
UPDATE - Uploaded the wrong one *facepalm* will post the correct one, once i find it
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Not to make your results look bad or anything but...
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Original battery, running Android Revolution HD
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Well, I said it was gonna need more testing out of it...but you didn'nt mention anything in your post...so...couold you be a little more explicative?
- Did you charge it on the USB port of your PC?
- How and how much did you use your phone over these almost 9 hours?
Also I see we run different Roms and this can be a very important variable too...to be tested properly this "trick" should be run over devices as similar as possible and with a similar usage otherwise there is no point to test it
Here is one more screenshot of the battery life I had:
PsicheAlCubo said:
Well, I said it was gonna need more testing out of it...but you didn'nt mention anything in your post...so...couold you be a little more explicative?
- Did you charge it on the USB port of your PC?
- How and how much did you use your phone over these almost 9 hours?
Also I see we run different Roms and this can be a very important variable too...to be tested properly this "trick" should be run over devices as similar as possible and with a similar usage otherwise there is no point to test it
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*Facepalm*
Uploaded the wrong one, lol
I'll find/upload the one i meant to, sorry about that
I've got a couple of days out of it before.
I usually charge it via the charger that came with it
Just a little update: 10 hours and a half and I still have 56% juice in so far so good..!
Maybe I won't reach again the 34 hours..but still a pretty good result by now..!
I'll keep you updated tomorrow
Goodnight everybody
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There is actually some truth to this method. A slow charge will get you longer battery life but a fast charge will allow it to discharge faster. They both will have the same capacity though. Don't ask me why this is but that's how lithium batteries work. I know this from my RC car days.
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This is completely expected because of one single thing you do: you use airplane mode. Putting your phone on airplane mode when you're at work or school or not using it for whatever reason will save you TONS of battery.
I've been advising ppl to do this since forever but most don't bother. It's just one tap on/off with a widget. Great to see you getting extra juice out of it this way.
a couple of days ago I got my best results of battery life well on a sense based ROM! on stock battery. insert coin ftw
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ags29 said:
This is completely expected because of one single thing you do: you use airplane mode. Putting your phone on airplane mode when you're at work or school or not using it for whatever reason will save you TONS of battery.
I've been advising ppl to do this since forever but most don't bother. It's just one tap on/off with a widget. Great to see you getting extra juice out of it this way.
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No wonder...thats why..
Anyway, i dont think i can do what the OP done by turning on flight mode. Im an engineer, and my working place running 24hours, which meaning i have to be always standby 24hour even during sleep if my service required by my working place..haha..what can i do...
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this is what I got from original battery with latest IC Rom
Moderate use, just when i need it, stock rom, stock battery. Mobile internet always on, sync off except weather and gmail.
Putting it on flightmode doesn't work for everyone. You know, people get calls every so often. Being available is the reason of having a phone, right?
By the way, the stats you are seeing are most likely a result of bad calibration. The Sensation has a pretty decent battery life to begin with.
MartijnGP said:
Putting it on flightmode doesn't work for everyone. You know, people get calls every so often. Being available is the reason of having a phone, right?
By the way, the stats you are seeing are most likely a result of bad calibration. The Sensation has a pretty decent battery life to begin with.
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Well HAVING to be available 24h due to a job shift is quite understandable...but WANTING to be is a completely different thing IMHO ..I never put it on flight mode unless I'm sleeping: and I can expect almost everybody to want to sleep while sleeping so..flight mode during your sleeping ours is a good way indeed to save a good ammount of juice from being drained with no reason
That said my second run was not that extraordinary..I had a nice 27 hours and a half run from 100% to 15% ...wich is still good but surely not exciting as my first run..!
Here some pics:
and
As usual: light use and flight mode during the night...
I'll be reporting the result of this with the Anker one ASAP...but it will take me at least one week to "condition" the battery and get some reliable results out of the tests..!
Over 5 days very light use. It is amaze me so I decide to share the experience with you sensation comrades!
Used to have battery drains with some kernel, customed ROMs. A week ago decide to try Bricked kernel and made some settings. Then the battery performance suprise me. In the past have strongly suspect HTC can not built energy saving hardware. It turns out that the HTC dev teams can not make things right. Many DEVs at XDA did better jobs then those "professionals".
See the picture.
Battery: stock
Rom: Bulletproof 1.5
Kernel: Bricked
Other CPU usage profiles and voltage settings.
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*cough* airplane mode
i can make my phone last 1 month if i want to
shiningarmor said:
*cough* airplane mode
i can make my phone last 1 month if i want to
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Don't cough. I used to suffer battery drains at the airplain mode. About 25% per night. Try it yourself, you will know.
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it's funny when people try to achieve better battery life, with smartphones and share their technique on how to have less drainage. everyone have their own purpose of using the phone. it really boil downs to the user. for me the best way to achieve great battery results is to not use your phone, just let it sit or get a regular cellphone.
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This is awesome. Don't listen to negativity pretty impressive stuff even on airplane mode.
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This is awesome. Don't listen to negativity pretty impressive stuff even on airplane mode.
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i dont see a point for smartphones to last this long. if u call this awesome, u must be quite naiive to even buy a smartphone. if u really want long battery life, ur better off with a nokia 3310, that **** can last u 2 full weeks..
and smartphones arent meant to have long battery life also. to me, good battery life means last long enough for one whole day of use, e:g taking photos, browsing, etc. why do u think smartphones carry powerful cameras? well they're for u to use and not let it sit in your pocket just to show off your phone can last this long.
to you battery life fanatics, you guys are pretty much kids in your own world. u buy a powerhouse phone and yet u dont want to use it, u rather save the battery. what a waste of money
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i dont see a point for smartphones to last this long. if u call this awesome, u must be quite naiive to even buy a smartphone. if u really want long battery life, ur better off with a nokia 3310, that **** can last u 2 full weeks..
and smartphones arent meant to have long battery life also. to me, good battery life means last long enough for one whole day of use, e:g taking photos, browsing, etc. why do u think smartphones carry powerful cameras? well they're for u to use and not let it sit in your pocket just to show off your phone can last this long.
to you battery life fanatics, you guys are pretty much kids in your own world. u buy a powerhouse phone and yet u dont want to use it, u rather save the battery. what a waste of money
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This.
What's the point of buying such an overpowered phone if all you're going to do is leave it on airplane mode and gloat about the battery life? Might as well get a razr v3.
Agreed besides its not negativity dude, we just think its pointless to preserve battery and dont use your phone at all. I got Anker for mine and everything else is stock. I can play, watch videos, use WiFi , browse the web etc and it lasts about 14 hours which is good enough for me until I get home
Pikabat said:
Agreed besides its not negativity dude, we just think its pointless to preserve battery and dont use your phone at all. I got Anker for mine and everything else is stock. I can play, watch videos, use WiFi , browse the web etc and it lasts about 14 hours which is good enough for me until I get home
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Same here, besides, these days there's alway a charger in the neighborhood for emergency's.
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To be honest mine doesn't last more than 8 hours with an Anker, obviously because of the amount of use, however, I think is pretty impressive that this guy got 5 days. I was just pointing that out lol
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i think mine was like 2 days with full usage (wifi mobile connection music camera)
I just put mine on the charger when it hit 50% 2 days 9 hours, 32 min of calls, 17 min of screen time, Wifi on the whole time. Energy ICS ( 15th March one ) stock kernel. I get three days out of it regularly but I'm a light user for the most part.
shiningarmor said:
i dont see a point for smartphones to last this long. if u call this awesome, u must be quite naiive to even buy a smartphone. if u really want long battery life, ur better off with a nokia 3310, that **** can last u 2 full weeks..
and smartphones arent meant to have long battery life also. to me, good battery life means last long enough for one whole day of use, e:g taking photos, browsing, etc. why do u think smartphones carry powerful cameras? well they're for u to use and not let it sit in your pocket just to show off your phone can last this long.
to you battery life fanatics, you guys are pretty much kids in your own world. u buy a powerhouse phone and yet u dont want to use it, u rather save the battery. what a waste of money
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Agree.
I'm growing tired of having to preserve battery on my sensation. I'd like to have a fully functioning phone with a battery that last at least 12 hours. That's what I'd call good battery life.
When you have a smartphone like the sensation, but you have to dim the LED, turn off auto sync, bluetooth and wifi (when not in use), use 3G only when necessary, it kinds of defeats the purpose of having a smartphone.
That being said, I started using anker battery about 3 weeks ago, and yesterday I got the best battery life ever! Unplugged the charger at 9AM, spent the day playing a bit of games, surfing in 3G for a while, a few phone calls, wifi on all the time, GPS for around 20 mins, and at 2AM, the battery shows 41%! But of course auto sync was off and the screen brightness was about 40% all the time.
the longer I can last my battery it's six hours, I'm a heavy user. I really don't get it, why would you by such a good phone to not use it, and squeeze the juice out of it?
edgg51 said:
the longer I can last my battery it's six hours, I'm a heavy user. I really don't get it, why would you by such a good phone to not use it, and squeeze the juice out of it?
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6 hours is normal. for me, a smartphone is well, it's for u to fully exploit it's potential. not by dimming the screen down to 0% brightness, everything off, airplane mode then bragging "oh look! my phone lasts 6 days"!
reminds me of my iphone 4 days where u have to dim the screen down to 10% if you're gonna go on a trip. turning off sync, wifi, bluetooth and data and even that u dont have enough for 1 whole day. normally lasts for like 5 ~ 6 hours then battery low warning comes up.. that's pathetic imho.
well i got over that, turned to android and now rocking with my chicitec 1900mah battery, heavy use entire day, wifi sync data off all the time , camera 80% of the time and a little bit of gaming. started off at 8am then going back to the hotel at 9pm , still holds 30% charge. (well im on a holiday that time , have no roaming plans and it's wise to turn data and sync off lul)
Well got lots of disagreement from you guys, you must know my point is not what you discussed. The point is when you are not using your phone you do not like the battery run out. I used to have 25% power drop for airplain mode that is too much. Now the overnight electric consumption is just 1%. When using the phone the performance and the power saving choice must be shifted. For that I forced 2 CPUs go online all the time by default. With wifi and gps on I use 12% battery per hour.
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I'm actually a heavy user I have the virtuous inquisition rom I get about 10 hours. I'm not bragging but all you guys that are getting upset for a guy that posts great battery life cmon it helps if anything someone can learn something new here. Go troll something else as we know the sensation Is a great phone we're just trying to get maximum potential with a lot of use.
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I don't see the point of this. Yes ur batter lasted 5 days. That's great but u used your phone like 10 times. See ur screen time. Umm good job NOT using your phone. Batteries generally last long without no use.
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shiningarmor said:
i dont see a point for smartphones to last this long. if u call this awesome, u must be quite naiive to even buy a smartphone. if u really want long battery life, ur better off with a nokia 3310, that **** can last u 2 full weeks..
and smartphones arent meant to have long battery life also. to me, good battery life means last long enough for one whole day of use, e:g taking photos, browsing, etc. why do u think smartphones carry powerful cameras? well they're for u to use and not let it sit in your pocket just to show off your phone can last this long.
to you battery life fanatics, you guys are pretty much kids in your own world. u buy a powerhouse phone and yet u dont want to use it, u rather save the battery. what a waste of money
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That is not quite right...
Before sensation i had a HTC Snap an used it fo about year and a half, wit heavy every day use 24/7 bluetooth, 3G, about 8 email accounts, etc...
with standard ROM, battery lasted only for day since day one, with custom ROM i managed to get up to 2 weeks maximum battery life, normal use no restrictions battery lasted for about 7 - 9 days wich was excelent, the only drainage ocoured when u turn on GPS, which drains battery compleatley in 2 -5 hours maximum, thats my experience,
i would be more than happy to acheive 48 hours of normal phone usage without recharging.
There was a topic in our local news about battery drainage aswell, and they mentioned that the cause mainly is the free apps that pushes you ads, and prevents the internet connection from idle.....
mrveiss said:
That is not quite right...
i would be more than happy to acheive 48 hours of normal phone usage without recharging.
There was a topic in our local news about battery drainage aswell, and they mentioned that the cause mainly is the free apps that pushes you ads, and prevents the internet connection from idle.....
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That is right.
I removed apps that call for internet update regularly. They are designed for 24/7 mobile internet connection. It is a waist of power when you sleep.
When phone idel (airplain mode) the CPU frequency is set to be 192/384 MHz. Phone sleep when you sleep.
During talk Both CPU frequencies are set at 192/480 MHz. This is far more sufficient.
When the screen on the max freq. is set to 1566.
When playing game Both CPUs are OC at 1920.
When the phone is in use you will need the performance. When the phone is not in use and still consuming power, it is called "battery drain".
I bought a used G2x in December 2011 and had okay battery life on the stock ROM. In January I started modding the phone with the Hell Phoenix and later Hellfire Sandwich ROMs. One day my phone started getting really hot and from that point on my battery life got worse and worse until it would only last a few hours. I ordered an 3500mAh extended battery from eBay, but it only increased the stamina of the phone to about 5 hours.
Since I never got a receipt from the previous user I had no warranty. However, I called LG and agreed to have the phone repaired for a fee that would not exceed $100 - they said it would cost between $40 and $100.
Fast forward 10 days and I received my phone back with a "replaced chipset" as it said on the note. And LG was nice enough to not charge me for the repair - kudos to LG!
I noticed that the phone was not getting hot or even warm anymore so I charged the 3500mAh battery to see how long it would last.
Unplugging the phone from the charger Thursday morning just before 8AM I used the phone as usual (light/medium use, but everything except BT enabled) all day Thursday, Friday and Saturday until the phone finally died Sunday morning at 2AM. Yes, that's 66 hours!!!
I'm still flabbergasted that this was possible, especially because I used the phone as usual and made several calls each day.
I'll try to attach a screenshot of the battery use. It was made at the time I went to bed Saturday night so it's not the full 66 hours.
Has anyone else ever gotten results like this or even higher?
Android version: Stock 2.3.3
Kernel: 2.6.32.9
Battery: eBay item 180721306295 from "bridge_wireless" $9 including shipping
Get Juice Defender Plus, it'll toggle your wifi automatically and save even more battery life.
Light usage (sending maybe a hundred texts and a couple web pages loaded) will easily get me through the weekend.
Using Faux DS Kernel and stock battery.
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Get Juice Defender Plus, it'll toggle your wifi automatically and save even more battery life.
Light usage (sending maybe a hundred texts and a couple web pages loaded) will easily get me through the weekend.
Using Faux DS Kernel and stock battery.
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I tried Juice Defender Plus and Faux DS kernel in January but never got any amazing results, but maybe my phone wasn't that healthy back then. Also, I didn't do anything to save battery life during the 66 hour test other than setting the screen brightness to "Auto". I also made several phone calls - as far as I remember it was about one hour and thirty minutes in total.
This really makes me wonder how long I can get in "power-saver" mode (dim, wifi off, 2G, Juice Defender, Faux DS) with the 3500mAh battery. Has anyone tried this?
I would be happy with 12 hours of light/normal use.
Im using the trinity kernel. SetCPU,Juice defender, auto dim screen, Wefi plus,
the only thing that syncs often is facebook on the hour.
and I cant make it 8 hours on one charge.
I rarely use the phone for calls mostly use text for work and friends.
facebook & web through out the day. if i let the phone sit and dont touch it the battery will last all day
I know I am no "light" user. I bought the damn phone to USE it. but I wouldn't say I am always a heavy user. I dont expect to stream for 8 hours but it would be nice If i could listen to the stern show,check Email,facebook,Web & text and only need to charge once halfway through the day then again overnight
Most I've gotten was like 22 hours! -___-
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I am definitely a HEAVY user and get around 16-18 hours on a charge. Constantly have Wi-Fi on, sometimes mobile data, gaming such as Temple Run and Angry Birds, and atleast half the time listening to music through PowerAmp. Constant texting, and maybe about 20-30 minutes of calling.
Also, when your cell standby surpasses your display usage, it shows you aren't really using your phone.
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PhilipCourtois said:
Fast forward 10 days and I received my phone back with a "replaced chipset" as it said on the note. And LG was nice enough to not charge me for the repair - kudos to LG!
I noticed that the phone was not getting hot or even warm anymore so I charged the 3500mAh battery to see how long it would last.
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Have you popped open the phone to look at the board?
Just curious if there's any variation. Screened on revision number, etc.
PhilipCourtois said:
I bought a used G2x in December 2011 and had okay battery life on the stock ROM. In January I started modding the phone with the Hell Phoenix and later Hellfire Sandwich ROMs. One day my phone started getting really hot and from that point on my battery life got worse and worse until it would only last a few hours. I ordered an 3500mAh extended battery from eBay, but it only increased the stamina of the phone to about 5 hours.
Since I never got a receipt from the previous user I had no warranty. However, I called LG and agreed to have the phone repaired for a fee that would not exceed $100 - they said it would cost between $40 and $100.
Fast forward 10 days and I received my phone back with a "replaced chipset" as it said on the note. And LG was nice enough to not charge me for the repair - kudos to LG!
I noticed that the phone was not getting hot or even warm anymore so I charged the 3500mAh battery to see how long it would last.
Unplugging the phone from the charger Thursday morning just before 8AM I used the phone as usual (light/medium use, but everything except BT enabled) all day Thursday, Friday and Saturday until the phone finally died Sunday morning at 2AM. Yes, that's 66 hours!!!
I'm still flabbergasted that this was possible, especially because I used the phone as usual and made several calls each day.
I'll try to attach a screenshot of the battery use. It was made at the time I went to bed Saturday night so it's not the full 66 hours.
Has anyone else ever gotten results like this or even higher?
Android version: Stock 2.3.3
Kernel: 2.6.32.9
Battery: eBay item 180721306295 from "bridge_wireless" $9 including shipping
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What is your screen on/display time?
theking_13 said:
...Also, when your cell standby surpasses your display usage, it shows you aren't really using your phone...
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I'm not sure what you're trying to get at . As I said I used the phone as I normally do without any "battery saver" methods in place. I never claimed any heavy use during this test.
It'll be fun to try going in "battery saver" mode with the same battery and see if it'll last a week... Well - for ME it would be fun!
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What is your screen on/display time?
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Not sure - I should have recorded that... Next time I will!
PhilipCourtois said:
I'm not sure what you're trying to get at . As I said I used the phone as I normally do without any "battery saver" methods in place. I never claimed any heavy use during this test.
It'll be fun to try going in "battery saver" mode with the same battery and see if it'll last a week... Well - for ME it would be fun!
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Well if I barely used my phone and mostly used it to check the time, I'd be surprised if it didn't last 3 days.
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theking_13 said:
Well if I barely used my phone and mostly used it to check the time, I'd be surprised if it didn't last 3 days.
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How fantastic - and thanks for the great constructive feedback! I love the warm feeling of knowing that the time I spend sharing my knowledge is appreciated without disbelief.
Really, I don't want to waste my time if you can't read. Just wanted to share my battery experience with stock 2.3.3, non-power saver configuration under normal phone use. And my idea of normal phone use is NOT just checking the time like you say. Compared to my experience when I originally got the phone I'm now getting way better battery life. I believe that the spread in battery performance is wide and far too many people settle with 4-6 hours of use before recharging with the reasoning that it's a dual-core phone and therefore swallows power as was it Gatorade. If I'm wrong and everyone knows that the G2X can go days on a charge then sorry that I brought it up.
Well when your display usage doesn't even show up, yet your cell standby and phone idle are at the top of the list, this means YOU ARENT USING YOUR PHONE. Any way you want to play this out, its not surprising that you get so much life out of your phone since its usually used as a fancy paperweight.
Maybe have your display usage on par with cell standby, then come show off amazing battery life.
Also, the 4-6 hours of life is most common on stock Froyo/GB. Not an issue anymore with custom roms.
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Guys, c'mon. You're not even talking about the same thing as each other. A debate is completely pointless.
theking_13 says you're not using your phone enough for the 66h to be that impressive.
PhilipCourtois says he wasn't bragging about how amazing his battery is, but just stating how much of an improvement it was over the stock experience.
Both of you are right. Philip is in fact not a very heavy user, so a longer life for a battery isn't completely surprising. However, phone idle accounts for 21%, whereas everything else accounts for 79%, which is by no means at all "a fancy paperweight". You can even see that the apps that were used account for 39% of the usage at that point, which is more than the cell standby. Furthermore, judging by the graph statistics, the phone was turned on relatively frequently.
Now for something on topic: I'd be interested in seeing someone do a proper test on a 3500mAh battery. Something along the lines of charging it up to 100%, leaving the screen on at 100%, settings both min and max CPU clock speeds to >1000MHz, and doing whatever else you would normally do on your phone in addition to that. Then posting a screenshot of how long that would last them. I predict somewhere along the lines of 9-12h, but it'd still be more informative than a lot of the reviews here. Not to say that the reviews here are unhelpful of bad, because they are very much so helpful.
Good point, but the app usage on GB is extremely inaccurate. I have had my phone on for 3 hours, 27% usage by cell standby, and I played Draw Something for two minutes, and it shows up as using 17% already? ICS graphs on the other hand, are more accurate.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.
Hey, you said you get >16h and you're a heavy user. Now I'm not doubting that in any way, but I'm using the same ROM as you, as well as the ELP kernel, which not only is optimized for EB, but is also supposed to be a battery saving kernel. However I get probably around 12h on medium usage. I've tried the faux kernel, and it did give better battery life than the T15 Trinity kernel, but on ELP my device lasted longer (T15 < Faux OC/UV < ELP for me, in other words).
Anyway, my question is did that Anker battery give you far more life over your stock battery, or is your device just lucky when it comes to battery usage? An extra 50mAh is barely anything, but you did mention in another thread that it runs cooler. From personal experience, my phone battery drains faster when it's warmer, so maybe that's it?
I'm really just curious because I've been messing around with battery saving techniques/phone accessories these past few weeks, and I just seem stuck in that 10-14h range on medium (maybe even medium-light by your standards) usage.
My highest is 8 hours. WTF
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How much do you use your phone in those <8 hours? I have moments when I don't touch my phone for hours, and generally I go down at about 2%/h when on standby. So if you ignored those, I'd probably be in the same boat as you.
For example, this is me today:
As you could probably tell, I haven't exactly used my phone a lot today, so I'm at 47% after 11h. However, I tested my battery this weekend by setting my screen brightness to 100%, screen timeout to never, and CPU min/max to 1100MHz/1100MHz. These were the results:
As you can see, my battery didn't even make it to 4h, so it really depends on how you use your phone.
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Guys, c'mon. You're not even talking about the same thing as each other. A debate is completely pointless...
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You're right. I never wanted to start a debate - all I wanted was to shed light on the fact that battery life of the G2X can be fantastic - even on stock GB - with the simple upgrade to a 3500mAh, cheap ($9) battery. Before I had the chipset replaced, the phone did NOT last very long and from everything I read on the forums, crappy battery life should be expected if not flashing a custom ROM with battery saver kernel. I'm just saying that that's not true for every phone.
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PhilipCourtois says he wasn't bragging about how amazing his battery is, but just stating how much of an improvement it was over the stock experience.
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If by "stock experience" you mean the condition I bought the phone in - then yes. But by my standards, the phone is now in as close to a stock condition as you can get - all I did was put in the larger battery. It's running stock GB 2.3.3 with all the T-Mobile bloatware still on it, Google+ on, data sync on, WiFi, 4G etc. on and screen on auto. And I really doubt that LG put in a "special", fantastic chipset when I sent it in for a repair.
Anyway, it seems a real enlightening discussion is on the way once we really start comparing use versus battery life and see that our phones differ dramatically in this regard.
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Hey, you said you get >16h and you're a heavy user. Now I'm not doubting that in any way, but I'm using the same ROM as you, as well as the ELP kernel, which not only is optimized for EB, but is also supposed to be a battery saving kernel. However I get probably around 12h on medium usage. I've tried the faux kernel, and it did give better battery life than the T15 Trinity kernel, but on ELP my device lasted longer (T15 < Faux OC/UV < ELP for me, in other words).
Anyway, my question is did that Anker battery give you far more life over your stock battery, or is your device just lucky when it comes to battery usage? An extra 50mAh is barely anything, but you did mention in another thread that it runs cooler. From personal experience, my phone battery drains faster when it's warmer, so maybe that's it?
I'm really just curious because I've been messing around with battery saving techniques/phone accessories these past few weeks, and I just seem stuck in that 10-14h range on medium (maybe even medium-light by your standards) usage.
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Well I'll tell you everything I did in a sec. But the battery helped maybe 20 minutes, but it is a new battery, so its going to get better results than one that is say 9 months. If it was a brand new LG battery, I'd get the same results.
Now onto what I've done to get this much. First of all, I use EaglesBlood rom and Faux's v0.48 kernel, CM Driver, not DS. I use Wi-Fi constantly, say for about 3-5 hours of the 16 hours that its used. For the most part, I have the network set to only connect to EDGE, not UMTS or HSPA. So 2G for most of the day. Then on the way home, I use 4G for around 30 minutes to an hour, and thats what kills my battery like there's no tomorrow.
Some other things I've done are replaced the Gallery app (supposedly uses battery all the time scanning for files) and use QuickPic instead. Replaced the stock Browser with Dolphin Browser and not only is it smoother, but it doesn't run in the background after I've closed it. Also, turned off logging for the SU app, turned off notifications for Facebook, Play Store, Words with Friends, Scramble with Friends, and auto synching for my Google accounts. Basically turned off background notifications for all apps except Pulse (news app) and Voxer (walkie talkie app).
Lastly, I have my CPU set to 216-816 MHz all the time, unless I play a game and whatnot. I notice no lag whatsoever while playing music and texting/on XDA/ browsing Pulse/etc. I undervolted -25mv across the board, even after what was already lowered through Faux's kernel. Ill post a screen shot so you know what they are. I found if I lowered them more, I'd get reboots sometimes when turning on Wi-fi.
If you have any questions, reply here or PM me. I'll be happy to help.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.
Post here your findings with the A9 in daily use; or discuss methods to improve battery life (settings, etc)
How much screen-on time do you get? How long does your battery last through the day, with what type of usage?
Mention also your ROM version pls.
If possible, post screenshot from GSAM or similar app.
inspired by similar thread for the M9 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/battery-sot-t3067585
ps: I am in the process of chosing a new phone, which could very well be an M9 or A9.
I'm generally a fairly heavy user and I've been very pleased so far with battery life. This phone and OS have so far been much better at preserving battery when asleep and it charges much faster even from standard chargers.
Well I am more then pleased, and if you use the phone as a game console only and watch videos, then it uses more power, but it is a phone right?
Thanks for replies. If possible, please post numbers (screenshots appreciated).
E.g. how much screen on time in a day, how much % left when going to bed without recharging all day.
+ add ROM version, whether 2gb or 3gb RAM...
you know, the essentials to make comments comparable.
Personally I am still on a 2.5y old One X+ that I want to replace. I don't game but need about 4h SOT (browsing, social apps, ...) without recharging. Today, I need to recharge every day during the day, and I want to put that behind me. In gsmarena battery test, the One A9 scored barely better than the X+, and worse than M9. That has me worried.
/ Updated to add: I also need all day mobile internet on 3g/4g, and 1 hour streaming radio (tunein radio app) with screen off). Maybe in future all day bluetooth for a connected watch? /
Cheers
fred_be9300 said:
Thanks for replies. If possible, please post numbers (screenshots appreciated).
E.g. how much screen on time in a day, how much % left when going to bed without recharging all day.
+ add ROM version, whether 2gb or 3gb RAM...
you know, the essentials to make comments comparable.
Personally I am still on a 2.5y old One X+ that I want to replace. I don't game but need about 4h SOT (browsing, social apps, ...) without recharging. Today, I need to recharge every day during the day, and I want to put that behind me. In gsmarena battery test, the One A9 scored barely better than the X+, and worse than M9. That has me worried.
Cheers
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If so then you will be fine with this phone,
jaypeg123 said:
If so then you will be fine with this phone,
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Thx. I updated my requirements though. I'd been too brief
besides, this thread is meant to collect data from many users, to provide usage examples to all potential buyers
From my experience my a9 battery usage is impressive when the screen is off, but when the screen is on it's worse than hTc one M8
in the M8 the SOT I got is between 5 to 7 hours, and in my new a9 the SOT is 4 to 5 hours per full cycle!
this 4 hours screen I used them in 1 day and half, with all time wifi and sometimes 4G Data when I go out.
I will post Gsam battery stats in the next couple days.
Marshmallow's doze mode works as advertised, with seemingly infinite standby times. But there's only about four hours of SOT in the tiny battery, maybe almost five if you're miserly.
muhammaf1992 said:
From my experience my a9 battery usage is impressive when the screen is off, but when the screen is on it's worse than hTc one M8
in the M8 the SOT I got is between 5 to 7 hours, and in my new a9 the SOT is 4 to 5 hours per full cycle!
this 4 hours screen I used them in 1 day and half, with all time wifi and sometimes 4G Data when I go out.
I will post Gsam battery stats in the next couple days.
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cpurick said:
Marshmallow's doze mode works as advertised, with seemingly infinite standby times. But there's only about four hours of SOT in the tiny battery, maybe almost five if you're miserly.
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That's about like my M9, which is what I expected with the A9. M8 was way better on battery than the M9.
jollywhitefoot said:
That's about like my M9, which is what I expected with the A9. M8 was way better on battery than the M9.
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810 is a battery hog. All that heat is wasted power.
But there's no excuse on the A9. Anybody could tell you a 2150mah battery isn't gonna last long. Would it really have been that big a deal to make the phone 2mm thicker and put a 2500 in it?
cpurick said:
810 is a battery hog. All that heat is wasted power.
But there's no excuse on the A9. Anybody could tell you a 2150mah battery isn't gonna last long. Would it really have been that big a deal to make the phone 2mm thicker and put a 2500 in it?
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Yeah, I agree. Personally, I would rather a phone the same size and the M9, with a 2840 battery, but with the 617 proc. But I'm probably not exactly who HTC was targeting with this device, either.
I was just saying that I think HTC decided that if the A9 battery performance matched the M9 then that was good enough. Once I faced fact that the M8 performance was a thing of the past, the M9 has actually been decent for me, using a custom Rom and flar's ElementalX kernel.
Sam battery state
here's a picture with Gsam battery monitor for 1 full charging cycle
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Day 1:
I unplugged my A9 at 7am.
3 minutes of scrolling through facebook. Then drive to work.
7pm the phone vibrates and tells me I have 15% battery life.
I made 4 phone calls all less then 5 minutes. Turned the screen on maybe 10 times to do a time check. And spent a good 15 minutes on break scrolling facebook.
12 hours of almost non use...
Then the fast power dump came.
My 20 minute drive home it went from 14% to 2%.
This is crazy.... I may have to return this thing and get my M8 back.
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here's a picture with Gsam battery monitor for 1 full charging cycle
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That battery will definitely be sufficient for the "average user" (by average I mean 9 to 5 day job with 1 hr lunch break and a 1 hr commute from home to work) that listens to music or watches movies on their way to work, uses their phone on their 30 minute or hour break, and watches movies/listens to music on their way home. Your battery stats are pretty good for 24 hours. The "average person" is out the house for about 12-14 hours a day and have time to plug unto the wall for atleast 15 minutes. If you can charge your phone for just 15-20 minutes while you eat on break (like most smartphone owners probably do already) with quick charge 2.0 (and soon to be 3.0) you'll have more than enough battery to last the day, and some, until you get home to charge for the night.
People who are complaining about the battery life must use android wear devices, wireless headsets, and keep your bluetooth on all day , and/or, are business men who are always traveling and don't have time to charge your phone, outside of those reasons I don't see why someone would need an incredibly large battery. I think that the fact that Android devices have been known for poor battery life for a very long time and people are expecting android 6.0 to be just as "battery hogging" which is why they think the 2150 battery is too small. Efficiency plays a huge factor that people are just ignorant to because they haven't used a marshmallow device or an iphone to understand it. Small batteries CAN last the day with the right operating system. Apple puts small batteries in their devices to maximize profit, but what if they put a 3200 mAh battery in an iphone 6s. the battery would probably last 2 full days with average usage. Point being the efficiency of android M seems to work wonders here. I'm wondering how much longer the Galaxy s6 battery will last after it receives the M update.
And to those who claim they don't have enough time to charge their phone or "find it annoying" to have to charge through out the day, you sound ridiculous. There are car chargers for people who drive, somewhat large (and affordable) portable chargers for people who commute via public transportation. Quick quick charging 2.0 & 3.0 . all you need to do is charge for 15 minutes, if needed, throughout the day and then you should be fine.
All in all, the average user should be fine with this phone. For you people that want a 4K display phone with a snapdragon 850 with a clock speed of 3.5GHz, along with 1 week battery life and 56 hours of screen on time for under $450, need to just pack it up. It's 2015 not 2051. Every phone will have its pros and cons. That's reality. If this phone isn't for you, then it isn't for you. Simple.
jkd12589 said:
Day 1:
I unplugged my A9 at 7am.
3 minutes of scrolling through facebook. Then drive to work.
7pm the phone vibrates and tells me I have 15% battery life.
I made 4 phone calls all less then 5 minutes. Turned the screen on maybe 10 times to do a time check. And spent a good 15 minutes on break scrolling facebook.
12 hours of almost non use...
Then the fast power dump came.
My 20 minute drive home it went from 14% to 2%.
This is crazy.... I may have to return this thing and get my M8 back.
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If this even is true, then you have a bad unit, I use mine like u describe and I got atleast 70% left when I come home from work.
At first I thought battery life sucked, but turned out to be a couple of bad apps (Sony life log and smartband). I ditched them and now getting similar life to my M8.
Last night I fully charged it then unplugged it to see how much charge it lost over night, so over 7.5 hours it lost just 2%. , which compared to the m8 (lost 9%) I'm pretty impressed.
Charge rate seems better too but could that be because it's such a small battery?
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If this even is true, then you have a bad unit, I use mine like u describe and I got atleast 70% left when I come home from work.
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I checked the battery use last night. Facebook. ( Which surprisingly didn't come loaded) used 46% of my battery Yesterday ( Per Battery Use stats. ).
There is a good chance it is hogging. ???
As it stands now. I had the same morning and now I'm at 82%. It's been off the charger for 2.5 hours and I've only responded to a facebook message.
I have already turned off unnecessary settings to include enhanced 4G LTE calling .
Hopefully I'll see how it goes.
My screen is on minimum and it has already dropped from 82% to 80% in the time it took to write this.
This kind of feels like the Old days when the HTC EVO came out.
That is NO news about fb app. Never used it never will.
After a couple of days of usage, the phone is doing about ok for me. Screen on time is just as bad as phone idle time is good. Put them together and they are lasting my average work day.
Had plugged it out yesterday at 7 in the morning and when I returned at 5, it was 33% which is acceptable , given that it had been on Wifi and 4G through the day.
I just left it unplugged from the charger last night and the Doze feature really shines through. Screen shot attached.
Is it worth upgrading from m8 to a9?
Im thinking of getting the new a9 but dont know wrther to get an m9 instead. I am currently using an m8 but want to upgrade. Should i get an m9 or a9? Im sticking to htc phones as i like the desighn.