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Polaris or iPhone

Hey guys,
In Switzerland, the Polaris (Touch Cruise) is now available and the iPhone should be available in 2 months.
From those that have the Polaris already, what is the general feedback - despite the video playback issue? Would you trade it for an iphone or is it really all you want it to be?
Should I throw down the money and get one?

Personaly... I couldn't live whith iPhone becuse it's very serious limitations, and lack of programs... (I know, the SDK came out... so what?)

But what about the painting of the dial screen with the polaris. I heard it can take between 1 and 5 seconds to make a phone call if you are surfing the web at the same time.
Seems the graphic chip is way underpowered. Is there a fix for this?

I am not crazy about the graphics performance of the cruise, but IMHO, the phone is VERY usable. It is still a powerhouse smartphone, and a very good business tool. Having a dedicated talk button means you reach the dialer FASTER then on the iPhone, and smart dialing is 10 x better than the Iphone when you have many many contacts. The iPhone is definatly slicker and faster, but it is NOT a business phone. At least not now. I had it (as well as the E90, P1i, E61 and many many others before) and returned in after a month.

I have the TC. To be honest, if the iPhone had GPS, I'd have bought one instead. However, gfx performance aside I am still very happy with my TC.
I mainly use it for connecting to work exchange email,calendar,contacts,tasks / phone, internet sharing for laptop, RSS news, GPS and music player. For all those it's perfect.
I may consider an iPhone2... depends on what the state of WM7 is like...

a part of course the lack of of drivers, and despite the crippled functionality of the Polaris, it manages to outperform the iphone for my everyday needs. Be it my appointments, alarms, contact managers, and what not, i am satisfied.
The iphone is a cool device, mucho slides and mucho wow factor, but in the end it's just a 8gb ipod with a phone stuck on top. I didn't feel at home as much as with a pocket pc. To be honest, even a blackberry is better that the iphone for what i do.

iphone is slick, very smooth fluid device. it has limitations but for the most part is good at what it does. it has the accelerometer which makes for some interesting applications, has a very high quality screen, multi-touch input. usually tied to an operator unless you jailbreak. software is very limited, SDK has been released and some good stuff might come out of that but still limited as compared to wm.
the polaris, other than the aforementioned video drivers issue and some lag depending on the rom, is a pretty solid device. as far as features go, it can't be beat. here are some that it has which the iphone currently lacks.
-3 megapixel camera that actually takes video
-2nd camera for video calls
-stereo bluetooth
-internal GPS chip
-3G
-removable battery / removable storage
those are the main hardware features, as far as software, there's always xda which is a huge resource, custom ROMs, a plethora of software. when it comes to modding and customizing wm cannot be beat.
there are tons of iphone vs <insert phone here> comparisons out there. just do a search. in the end you have to see what your requirements are and what's a priority for you.

hambola said it pretty clearly and I totally agree:
Get the Polaris.
-3 megapixel camera that actually takes video
-2nd camera for video calls
-stereo bluetooth
-internal GPS chip
-3G
-removable battery / removable storage
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In addition to this list, there is
- a hot-swappable card slot so you can get as much storage space as you like
- lots of very good software, like on a real PC, that can be installed without cracking anything.

more programs i require for wm devices and many many freeware apps
iphone dont do gps or 3g(yet)
iphone dont have a frontcam (not that i would use video calls much)
iphone dont have SD expansion
iphone cant change batt unless apple does it for you
polaris is not as pretty
wm is not as slick and not as good audioplayer (imho)
htc dont want to pay for drivers and make poor ones themselfs
polaris got a smaller screen

current iphone is a piece of garbage...apple just loves their trusted computing stuff so they lock down the device and don't let you do anything with the software. also serious lack of functionality like A2DP, GPS, etc, mentioned in above post. Will the next gen iPhone be any different?
I'll wait and see...but just in my opinion i am very dissapointed with the polaris and i def. regret i purchased it

it all depends on what are ur needs.

confusedxx said:
But what about the painting of the dial screen with the polaris. I heard it can take between 1 and 5 seconds to make a phone call if you are surfing the web at the same time.
Seems the graphic chip is way underpowered. Is there a fix for this?
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should be sooner or later. its still very usable without it.

I really wanted the IPhone, but in the end I got the Touch Cruise...
My decisions was based on the iPhone having
1. No Copy/Paste
2. No Bluetooth Voice Dialing (anyone who drives know's this omision is ridiculous)
3. No A2DP
4. No MMS
5. No removeable battery
6. No Flash support
7. No option to save anything from the browser
8. No video recording
9. No 3G
10. No MS Office editing
11. No multitasking with SDK apps
To me the Iphone in current state is more of a webbrowser with a Ipod, and then some phone and pda features thrown in. I have no doubt that the SDK will fix the lack of software as the iphone could have a larger user base than WM6 by the end of year (thus far iphone is seriously outselling wm6).
I have faith that Apple will fix the majority of their issues. However, I do not know if they will fix them in the current iphone, or wait for the next iphone. HTC on the other hand has issues with multimedia on the Touch Cruise...and I really doubt they will be fixing that issue.
All in all, if you're a power user go for the TC, as you can make it for for you. If you just want some tunes, movies, and a phone in a really well put together package then go for the iPhone. The real killer will probably be the iPhone 2.0
//Rant: Microsoft is the most shorsighted company that ever existed. Its the most ridiculous thing that WM7 is going to be coming out in a year, when the iphone is here now. Furthermore, have any of you seen Origami? http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/umpc/demo.mspx
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It is an awesome set of interface and multimedia integrated apps that they developed for the practically 0% market share Tablet UMPC platform. If only they worked putting that kind of functionality on WM instead...idiots...
Origami has features that are begging to be on our phones
-Picture password
-Origami Central
-Enhanced Windows Media Player
-Enhanced IE
-Enhanced Picture viewer
Ahhh, it makes me so mad to see these features in a product that will likely never take off, while Windows Mobile that has a huge base is left w/o updates and with a market share whitering away to Apple.

don't get me started on Microsoft. that company has some serious lack of innovation recently. aside from the surface i haven't seen much practical innovation coming out of there. the whole vista gadgets (wanna be widgets) is such a knock-off. yeah it works but i mean come on it took osx to implement for you to realize to build one in vista?? for the longest time on any windows box if you wanted to check a calendar and didn't have outlook, you would have to double click the clock in the systray and pretend you're changing the date to see a date several months in advance then make sure you click cancel so that you don't change your date. the calendar app in vista is much smoother now, why couldn't this have been implemented before.
back to windows mobile, it's a sad piece of work. it just looks very outdated. PIE isn't worth the space it's using.
small solace can be found in the fact that at least they acknowledge the shortcomings and want to improve it in later features.
until then....<sigh>.....

and their instant search fields are also appleRipoffs

WM has been basically the same (minus a few enhancements and UI changes, nothing spectacular) since it first came out in the 90s...
it's rediculous; the interface and usability resembles windows 3.11
My god.......that origami looks awesome...
but seriously, how many people have / even want a UMPC?
That's rediculous...god why can't they just port that to WM
they did it on purpose to torture us!

hambola said:
back to windows mobile, it's a sad piece of work. it just looks very outdated. PIE isn't worth the space it's using.
small solace can be found in the fact that at least they acknowledge the shortcomings and want to improve it in later features.
until then....<sigh>.....
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I completely agree. It seems everything they do these days is in response to someone else. From the Zune (another waste of effort and talent that should have been focused on making Windows Media Player in WM better), to IE7, to Vista.
Seriously Origami, and the Zune piss me off the most....clearly if MS focused their efforts on their already developed WM platform instead of wasting time with those toys that don't sell, the iPhone would be nothing more than a glorified LG chocolate.
And as for as PIE, this is what it should look like if MS got off their lazy pedastool...but nope again another wasted concept on the Origami platform.

the only reason imho wm is worth anything is because of the modding community and htc. without both it would suck. htc is doing a nice job making the phones we buy very usable with stuff like opera and recently touchflo. it took the release of the iphone for most of the things to come though
opera 9 gives u a similar browsing expirence to the one above though. wm7 finally will be what we are looking for and it actually looks like they are bringing some inovations to the table.

Also there is Google's Android... so far there have been only a few demo videos and some small stuff, but it's been announced that it will run on MSM 7x00 chipsets, also some useable driver is being developed for it. In regards to the functionality based on the existing sources (Videos, SDK Emu,...), it will have all the functionalities, capabilities, and much more than the WM.
WM7 will have very tough challangers on the market once it comes out... and is not sure to win against them... unless they come out whith something ground shaking...
Still, I hope that the iPhone gets what it deserves... WM and Android ported to it

I say Touch Cruise anyday! It's feature packed but it again depends how many of those features do you actually use daily.
Windows Mobile can be customed cooked - iPhone (thw PWNAGE Tool) is out for you to do the same for the Apple firmware.
Speaking of Multimedia Touch Cruise is surely ahead, as it supports all Audio and Video formats with the help of TCMP or CorePlayer. Whereas the iPhone is redundant on MP3 & MP4.
The TouchFlo aspect resides in both the phones along with the 'iPhone' like interface can be used in both the devices.
So once again Touch Cruise does have it's PRO's over the iPhone. Rest is your call and your phone where you wanna put it.
All the best!

Is this review correct?

http://www.itpro.co.uk/606879/htc-touch-pro
Or with XDA's help can some of these problems be fixed?
Or are these problems not that big a deal?

Could you quote (copy - paste) the problems here?

There’s an accelerometer in it too so it can do the flip to landscape mode when you turn it round. Unfortunately, this isn’t as responsive as I would have liked, due to the delay in re-rendering the page.
Unfortunately there’s no 3.5mm headphone socket, so you’ll either need to use the typically poor supplied headphones with their mini USB connector, or invest in a Windows mobile remote into which you can plug your own headphones.
However, while it should be possible to scroll up and down between messages like this I found that I instead found that I usually just opened the email as soon as I touched the screen. Once you do, you’re left with the regular clunky Windows Mobile interface, which means getting out the stylus.
A true indicator of the limits of Touch Flo 3D is that it doesn’t present a consistent interface across the whole device. When in regular portrait mode, pressing on the on-screen soft menu buttons in any given application will bring up a list of enlarged, and therefore easy to use with the fingers, menu options, but when you open the keyboard and turn it sideways you get standard Windows Mobile menus.
The inconsistencies carry over to web browsing. While in portrait mode the default page gives you a search box. By contrast, when you open the keyboard and select the Web Search button, it fires up Google.com instead. Furthermore, in portrait mode, double tapping the address bar brings up the search box, into which you can type using the on-screen keyboard. However if you flip open the keyboard and try and do the same the box keeps on disappearing, which is slightly maddening.
Furthermore, while Opera Mobile does a great job of reflowing text to fit the screen, and is generally very good, it does seem to strain the processing power of the device and the browser has a hard job differentiating between taps to cause the page to zoom, and taps to click through on links. Try converting currencies at www.xe.com using the Opera browser as an example – it’s an exercise in frustration.
However, while it all seems smooth at first, when one gets to use the phone for a prolonged period problems start to surface. The issue is that Windows Mobile as an operating system is decidedly sluggish and nothing HTC has done on the surface can disguise this. When the phone rings, there seems to be an unnerving hesitation between pressing the answer button and the call connecting – and ending a call is worse.
Other bugs encountered include the camera application having a tendency to freeze up, and frequent ‘manila.exe’ crash messages that seems to occur when it’s asked to do too much, too quickly.
If you put up with these, you’ll find a very capable device, that’s brimming with useful features but it has to be said that there are rather too many for it to earn a recommendation.
There’s much to be impressed about with the Touch Pro, and much of the time, impress it does, but the irritations of the interface of Windows Mobile and the responsiveness are never too far off, despite HTC’s best efforts.
If you’re set on, or restricted to, Windows Mobile, and want a keyboard, the Touch Pro has to be recommended as the best of the bunch. If you’re happy to cast your net wider however, we’d have to say that we’d choose a Blackberry Bold, Nokia E71, or indeed iPhone over this every time.

sounds like an apple fanboy IMO...

thehyecircus said:
There’s an accelerometer in it too so it can do the flip to landscape mode when you turn it round. Unfortunately, this isn’t as responsive as I would have liked, due to the delay in re-rendering the page.
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Well, it depends on the webpage you are viewing. If it's a heavy one, you will notice a delay but nothing that you can't handle. Most of the times is pretty snappy.
Unfortunately there’s no 3.5mm headphone socket, so you’ll either need to use the typically poor supplied headphones with their mini USB connector, or invest in a Windows mobile remote into which you can plug your own headphones.
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No 3.5mm. If you really need to use a 3rd party handset to listen to mp3 etc, you have to use an adapter...
However, while it should be possible to scroll up and down between messages like this I found that I instead found that I usually just opened the email as soon as I touched the screen. Once you do, you’re left with the regular clunky Windows Mobile interface, which means getting out the stylus.
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What do you need the stylus when reading an email? I don't get this...
A true indicator of the limits of Touch Flo 3D is that it doesn’t present a consistent interface across the whole device. When in regular portrait mode, pressing on the on-screen soft menu buttons in any given application will bring up a list of enlarged, and therefore easy to use with the fingers, menu options, but when you open the keyboard and turn it sideways you get standard Windows Mobile menus.
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You can enable the enlarged menus in landscape too...
The inconsistencies carry over to web browsing. While in portrait mode the default page gives you a search box. By contrast, when you open the keyboard and select the Web Search button, it fires up Google.com instead. Furthermore, in portrait mode, double tapping the address bar brings up the search box, into which you can type using the on-screen keyboard. However if you flip open the keyboard and try and do the same the box keeps on disappearing, which is slightly maddening.
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When in portrait mode the icon is called Opera so pressing it just loads the Homepage. In landscape mode the icon is Web Search so... it loads google!
I am using Opera 2392 and clicking on address bar in any mode brings up Search bar as well.
So, no problem here...
Furthermore, while Opera Mobile does a great job of reflowing text to fit the screen, and is generally very good, it does seem to strain the processing power of the device and the browser has a hard job differentiating between taps to cause the page to zoom, and taps to click through on links. Try converting currencies at www.xe.com using the Opera browser as an example – it’s an exercise in frustration.
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Well... You can use the phone's Page UP\ DOWN, TAB, ENTER keys... Just like a PC...
However, while it all seems smooth at first, when one gets to use the phone for a prolonged period problems start to surface. The issue is that Windows Mobile as an operating system is decidedly sluggish and nothing HTC has done on the surface can disguise this. When the phone rings, there seems to be an unnerving hesitation between pressing the answer button and the call connecting – and ending a call is worse.
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You could disable HTC Dialer and let Windows Mobile Dialer take over. Few more tweaks and problem solved!
Windows Mobile is still based on a 10 year old core. No matter what, it is outdated... However, on the right hardware (i.e. Touch Pro) Windows Mobile works like a treat!
Other bugs encountered include the camera application having a tendency to freeze up, and frequent ‘manila.exe’ crash messages that seems to occur when it’s asked to do too much, too quickly.
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Never happened to me! Probably he used an older rom...
If you put up with these, you’ll find a very capable device, that’s brimming with useful features but it has to be said that there are rather too many for it to earn a recommendation.
There’s much to be impressed about with the Touch Pro, and much of the time, impress it does, but the irritations of the interface of Windows Mobile and the responsiveness are never too far off, despite HTC’s best efforts.
If you’re set on, or restricted to, Windows Mobile, and want a keyboard, the Touch Pro has to be recommended as the best of the bunch. If you’re happy to cast your net wider however, we’d have to say that we’d choose a Blackberry Bold, Nokia E71, or indeed iPhone over this every time.
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So... I am guessing they don't like Windows Mobile too much... They didn't really give any of the device real flaws (Like the sound it makes when sliding in\out the keyboard, you have to remove the cover to change the microSD card).
You could buy Google's Dream, but a more polished operating system is not a good reason to buy such an ugly and poorly thought over device...
You could also buy Xperia X1 but you stilll have to face Windows Mobile flaws. You do get better build quality and bigger screen. But the keyboard is graded as one of the worst ever, screen is not flushed, you won't have TF3D (you could get TF2D though...) and the overall appeal of the device seems to be worse than TP.
That's all....

Whats wrong with the noise it makes when you slide out the keyboard?
What happens when you use Windows Mobile Dialer? Is it ugly? Or bad looking? I am used to just a simple Nokia list of names to call so I have no idea what to expect.
And can't the phone's speaker work for FM Radio? Or maybe Slingbox Mobile?
No other cell phone out there right now looks good. I'm interested in Android but it needs to actually get out of the trial first phone stage.

I just want to know when I can write a review that matters. I want to write a stock vs modded review that details every issue before and after..
oh the pains of waiting to upgrade...

marios96 said:
You could disable HTC Dialer and let Windows Mobile Dialer take over. Few more tweaks and problem solved!
That's all....
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Thanks for addressing the issues, I am a tentative Pro buyer and have read that review too and it did make me hesitate a bit. Now I'm more convinced, again
Just quickly (this is my first EVER WM phone), how do you disable/enable windows/HTC dialer?
Furthermore, I was hoping that you can point me to a place where I can learn how to tweak/change settings/flash the phone. I checked out the database and Wiki's (I swear I did!) but all it seems are explanations as to what does what - it doesn't really tell you HOW to do the tweaks - like, I know I need to change registries here and there - but HOW? How do I make a backup of everything before I change anything/flash the phone? HOW do I find out the CID? etc. No need to teach me here, just want a good tutorial as to what I can do with a WM phone (and how!), thanks a MILLION in advance!

l3it3r said:
I just want to know when I can write a review that matters. I want to write a stock vs modded review that details every issue before and after..
oh the pains of waiting to upgrade...
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You can write it here. In fact please do.

Lord Farkward said:
Thanks for addressing the issues, I am a tentative Pro buyer and have read that review too and it did make me hesitate a bit. Now I'm more convinced, again
Just quickly (this is my first EVER WM phone), how do you disable/enable windows/HTC dialer?
Furthermore, I was hoping that you can point me to a place where I can learn how to tweak/change settings/flash the phone. I checked out the database and Wiki's (I swear I did!) but all it seems are explanations as to what does what - it doesn't really tell you HOW to do the tweaks. No need to teach me here, just want a good tutorial as to what I can do with a WM phone (and how!), thanks a MILLION in advance!
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You can do all sorts of tweaks (including changing the dialer) with a registry editor (like Resco's or PHM etc). It is really not hard to find or use one. It's a bit like using File Explorer to find a specific file and edit its' name or properties...
Or you can use one of the programs that are ment for specific registry tweaks. Like Advance Config or Diamond Tweak. Both programs contain all the necessary tweaks in a well presented way so it is a matter of switch on and off a registry edit (or something close to that...)
All in all, the best way to start is either Advance Config or Diamond tweak and when you feel like editing registry by yourself use one of the Registry Editors.

marios96 said:
You can do all sorts of tweaks (including changing the dialer) with a registry editor (like Resco's or PHM etc). It is really not hard to find or use one. It's a bit like using File Explorer to find a specific file and edit its' name or properties...
Or you can use one of the programs that are ment for specific registry tweaks. Like Advance Config or Diamond Tweak. Both programs contain all the necessary tweaks in a well presented way so it is a matter of switch on and off a registry edit (or something close to that...)
All in all, the best way to start is either Advance Config or Diamond tweak and when you feel like editing registry by yourself use one of the Registry Editors.
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That's a perfect place for me to start, thanks!
Just curious - other than editing registries and flashing with ROM's, what other fun modding can you do?

thehyecircus said:
Whats wrong with the noise it makes when you slide out the keyboard?
What happens when you use Windows Mobile Dialer? Is it ugly? Or bad looking? I am used to just a simple Nokia list of names to call so I have no idea what to expect.
And can't the phone's speaker work for FM Radio? Or maybe Slingbox Mobile?
No other cell phone out there right now looks good. I'm interested in Android but it needs to actually get out of the trial first phone stage.
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Don't get me wrong, the keyboard feels extremely solid! The sliding mechanism is strong and has a good feel when you use it. However, when you slide out the keyboard the spring does a sound which some may find weird. I would just prefer it to be a tiny bit more quiet!
A skin for the WM Dialer is this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434934
The loudspeaker could be used for FM Radio with the hansfree cable attached to the phone (it acts as an antenna).
The speaker that you use for phone calls can't.

Lord Farkward said:
That's a perfect place for me to start, thanks!
Just curious - other than editing registries and flashing with ROM's, what other fun modding can you do?
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Or this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tiEji2sTyA

marios96 said:
Or this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tiEji2sTyA
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how is that done?!?

Nobody really knows... (Except from the uploader ofcourse)
The video seems real though...
Anyway, for all the new members of Raphael forum, just a reminder:
Since Touch Pro is basically a Diamond with keyboard, you can find a great deal of information, applications, mods, themes and many many many other usefull stuff over at the Diamond thread Themes, Applications and Software

To the OP:
As per the very detailed post on the preceding page there are ways around pretty much everything they say, except for the lack of a 3.5mm jack, since thats hardware.
The Touch Pro is my first WinMo phone (coming from various N-Series Nokia's, the N82 I still have), and I find it excellent after only a little time spent here learning some tweaks (like 4 program icons across in the program menu, large icons in landscape, a couple of registry tweaks to really speed up TF3D, Diamond TF3D configurer to order the tabs in a logical way for my use etc). You hear lots of bad things about WinMo, which it deserves to be perfectly frank (seriously, needing to use a stylus is just awful, so user-unfriendly), but the reality is that when properly skinned to can pretty much alleviate nearly all its shortcomings.

NZtechfreak said:
To the OP:
As per the very detailed post on the preceding page there are ways around pretty much everything they say, except for the lack of a 3.5mm jack, since thats hardware.
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http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=169477
and there you have it.... 3.5mm jack=p

Yeah, I have one of the adaptors too - but its quite large and I only use it in the car. That doesn't really qualify as a real solution in my book, having to carry around another piece of kit that is quite large (the picture makes it look deceptively small).

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How is this:
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oh myyyyyyyyyy
how can I ever forget about skinning?? now THAT's really awesome. I'm sure I'll find out how I'll do that later (at least I know who to ask if/when I'm stuck now )
BTW, are you personally using the WM dialer now? or have you done enough tweaking that even the HTC dialer is fast enough?

Hands On Review: Acer Tempo X960

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Hi all, welcome to this, my hands on review of the new Acer Tempo X960 Smart Device! I've been fortunate enough to be given a review sample of this latest device from Acer, one of their first since their purchase of ETEN corp, and I can tell you, the Acer styling is getting right in there.
First off all, lets take a look as some pics of this gorgeous device.
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As you can see, a sexy looking device that's slim, light and extremely comfortable in the hand and has no irritating bevel around the edge of the screen to get in the way of using it.
Device Specification
Right, Let's get the technical stuff over with.
Operating System:
Windows Mobile® 6.1 Professional (Crossbow)
Processor:
Samsung S3C 6410 533 MHz Processor with one DRAM
Memory:
256 MB Flash ROM, 128 MB SDRAM
Display:
2.8", 640 x 480 (VGA), 65,536 colors, TFT-LCD
Dimensions(L x W x H):
106.4(L) x 59 (W) x 13.7(14.8 ) (H) mm
Weight:
131.5g
Communications:
HSDPA 7.2 / HSUPA 2.0 / UMTS (2100 / 1900 / 850 MHz)
Quad-Band GSM：850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
GPRS class 11 / EDGE class 11
Bluetooth® v2.0 class 2 + EDR (Enhanced Data Rate),
WiFi IEEE802.11b/g Certificated
GPS:
Embedded SiRF Star III chipset, TMC function supported*,
(*Subjected to changes by region)
Camera:
Built-in 3.2 mega pixels Auto-Focus CMOS camera, up to 2048 x 1536 resolution
0.3 mega pixels Fixed-Focus CMOS camera for Video Telephony usage
Light sensor (L-Sensor):
Sensing the brightness of environment to adjust panel luminance
Expansibility:
MicroSD card slot
Interface/Audio:
Built-in microphone and speaker, hands-free mode supported
Interface/Data:
USB Sync
Ergonomic Design:
Touch screen for stylus or fingertip, power button, 2 quick application buttons (GPS/Home), send/end button, record button, volume control,
Battery:
Lithium Polymer rechargeable with 1,530 mAh capacity
Talk time: 3G: 4h depend on usage / 2G: 5h depend on usage
Standby: 150h depends on usage
Pocket PC usage: 10~15 hour
GPS usage: 2.5~5 hour
* Highly dependent on usage rate/behaviour
Software (pre-loaded*):
Windows [email protected] 6.1 Professional
1. Microsoft® Office Outlook Mobile (Calendar, Contacts, Tasks and Inbox)
2. Microsoft® Office Word Mobile / Microsoft® Office Excel Mobile / Microsoft® Office PowerPoint Mobile.
3. MSN® Messenger / Microsoft® Transcriber / Windows Media® Player 10.
4. Picture / Notes / Internet Explorer Mobile / ActiveSync / Calculator / Game (Solitaire, Bubble Breaker).
5. Microsoft Reader* (* region/territories dependent)
Acer Exclusive Applications:
User interface: Acer Shell v2.0
Phone Tools: Phone settings, SIM toolkit, Speed dial, Communication manager, CSD type, Connection wizard, SMS sender, SIM manager, MMS composer
Multimedia Tools: Pictures & Videos, Camera /Camcorder, Album, Streaming player, Media player
Utilities: Backup utility, Default Settings, Application recovery, Memory Optimization
(*Subjected to changes by region)
A very well specified device that places it squarely in the upper bracket of modern Pocket PC devices, the Tempo X960 sports a highly capable processor with integral 3D capabilities and a custom shell application from Acer to simplify your daily use. Let's take a closer look at it, shall we?

Ergonomic Design
The Tempo X960 sports Acers new styling of a slick black casing with a glossy transflective touch screen flush with the casing. It's constructed of a sturdy plastic with a chromium plated rim and a rubberised back to prevent slipping on things like car dashboards and feels extremely comfortable and light in the hand.
The screen is far enough placed up in the device that swiping with your thumb is very comfortable and reaching the 4 hardware bottons and D-pad on the front is also extremely easy on the hand.
The buttons here are your typical Call and Hang up on either side, the D-Pad in the centre, and also a GPS and Home key. More on those later.
Also located on the front is the VGA front camera, primarily intended for 3G video calls, a light sensor for automatic brightness adjustment, and a raised slit for the ear piece. Hiding either side of this slit are the standard status LED's you expect on all Pocket PC's. Power, WiFi, Bluetooth and GPS.
Connectors
Starting with the left side, from top to bottom we have a place to fit a lanyard, a +/- volume rocker, a reset hole and the Record button.
On the bottom there is a single mini-USB connector which is the standard these days for Pocket PC charging and synching. This port also doubles as a headphone connector.
On the right side, from top to bottom, we have the power button, Micro-SD card slot, camera button and the bay for the included telescoping stylus.
All of these buttons and slots are flush with the chromed trim which is nice, though I found the SD card slot a little tricky to remove with my fingernail, Mind you, I have chunky fingers so that's probably at least partly the cause. It's not like we'll be opening this regularly anyway, you'll see why a little later.
On the top edge we have the letters GPS.
Behind these hides the antenna for the highly capable SiRF III GPS chipset built in to this device.
On the back we have the main 3.2 megapixel camera with an LED flash and a micro mirror for those self portraits.
Also here are two small speaker grilles, though there is only one speaker actually in the device. Finally, we battery cover which is easy to remove, yet feels of good sturdy construction. This hides the 1530mAh battery and the SIM slot.
Right, that's the hardware covered, so let's switch this puppy on, shall we?
Software
Right, first of all, let's get one thing straight, Acer like black. If there's one thing you're going to see a lot of in Acer's phones, it's black. From the slick outer casing, to the software on the device. Lots and lots of black. I happen to like black, so this suits me right down to the ground.
So... After that admittedly dull boot logo, you are then presented with the regular green Windows Mobile 6.1 startup screen. This hangs around for a short while, before you're presented with this:
This is Acer's all new singing and dancing Acer Shell 2.0. Don't ask me where 1.0 went, I've never seen it and I have no idea if it exists. Who cares anyway? We now have Acer Shell 2.0, and I happen to quite like it.
Anyway, it basically simulates an actual desktop, complete with window showing you the weather outside (by the way, this bit is animated! If it's raining, you'll get rain on your window ), and from what I can tell, appears to be flash based. You can move objects around on the desk, you have three "panes" to help you do this, and on pane 3 there's even a shelf to put stuff too. You can also take objects off the desk if you should wish.
Here's a closer look showing all 3 "panes" of the desk. accessed with a left/right swipe of the finger.
BTW, if you're wondering why these pics are different to the bigger one above, it's because some shots are promo shots from Acer, and some are from the device in my hand. These ones are from my device.
Tapping on any of these objects will open them up to custom applets such as contacts, email, weather forecasts, quick launch, bookmarks, and a rather nifty music player.
As well as the Acer Shell, there are also some other programs preinstalled, these include Google Maps, the new Internet Explorer 6 Mobile (which I have to say, is a massive improvement over PIE and even handles YouTube straight out of the box).
There is also the standard ETEN suit of applications, now rebadged to Acer, that many are used to on the previous Glofiish range of phones such as the GPS Viewer, Application Recovery, Backup, Memory Optimization, Task Manager, Profiles and so on, as well as the usual Windows Mobile stuff such as Office Mobile, MSN Messenger, Live Search.
Two new things of note. We now have a Notification Manager, which can notify you of new updates, and even download for Over The Air updating. Very useful, though I'd be careful of your data charges there. Also, we have what is quite possibly THE most important addition to Windows Mobile ever, and I thank Acer from the bottom of my heart for adding it; card reader mode.
Yes, that's right! When you connect to your PC, you will now be asked if you want to go in to one of three modes:
* Activesync
* Card Reader
* Internet Sharing
The middle one is the important one. Card Reader. When in this mode, the SD card in your device will appear as a normal drive on your PC, and you can transfer files at FULL USB 2 transfer speeds! No more being limited by the horrible speed restrictions of ActiveSync! Finally, you can stop carrying that little card reader with you... Thank you SO MUCH, Acer!

In Use
Right, so... I've had this device in my hands for a couple of weeks now, and I've been using it as my daily phone since it arrived and I have to say, this is by far my most favourite Pocket PC to date.
It's comfy in my hand, it's light, it hardly makes an impression in my shirt pocket. It has a clear VGA screen and thanks to the 533mhz Samsung processor, it's pretty snappy to respond, lagging a little only when some memory pig of an application decided it was going to bully the rest of the device, and THAT only happened when I was randomly installing all sorts of stuff on it.
Typing on it suffers from the same problem ALL touch screen devices suffer from; that of having to use a software keyboard. The standard Microsoft one is the usual fair, needing the stylus to type, but Acer have given us a much easier to use "Easy Keyboard", not too dissimilar to Apple's one on the iPhone, and this one is easy enough to use with the finger.
The audio quality is excellent, both in normal and speakerphone modes, as well as video calls, and whilst it uses a USB connector for audio headsets, the ones it comes with are of good quality and are comfortable to wear.
TomTom 6 & 7 both work a charm on it with GPS fix being picked up in 15-20 seconds from cold in an open area.
Battery life I found to be pretty impressive too, with me going 3 days on average between charges. Not bad considering all the hardware packed into this neat little device, all demanding their share of the 1530mAh battery.
Overall Impression
I've used a lot of Pocket PC devices in my time, so I think I can honestly say that I'm not that easily impressed, but Acer have managed to impress me with the Tempo X960. Sure, it's not perfect, show me a device which IS, but it's very very GOOD at what it does.
For me, I think it's biggest plus points are its size and speed, coupled with comfort of use and quality of the audio. All the rest of the stuff is just bling on the core of what is a very well constructed phone.
I think I can sum up my overall feelings about the Tempo X960 thusly... If Acer want this review unit back, they're going to have to fight me for it! Or... they could just send me an invoice.

Thanks a lot
Exellent review!
Now I have it completly discarded

Looks like a nice phone.
unfortunately a 2.8 touchscreen and no HW keyboard doesn't quite work for me.
If you have small hands, or don't need to use it for email it seems like a good option.

Looks like a cool phone, ill do some more research, and maybe check ebay. -Thanks

orb3000 said:
Now I have it completly discarded
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Mind if I ask why that is?

Great review. Could you be kind enough to dump the rom so we could ectract the acer software. That shell sounds like a joy to use.

addicus said:
Great review. Could you be kind enough to dump the rom so we could ectract the acer software. That shell sounds like a joy to use.
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Sorry, but I can't. If I do, I can kiss goodbye to ever getting review units from Acer again, and I'm not willing to take that chance.

FloatingFatMan said:
Mind if I ask why that is?
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2 reasons:
1.- No physical keyboard!! (Is a must for me)
2.- No HTC build (That means no great support from this forum)
Cheers,

FloatingFatMan said:
Sorry, but I can't. If I do, I can kiss goodbye to ever getting review units from Acer again, and I'm not willing to take that chance.
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My apologies. It was rude of me to ask.

No worries. There's nothing wrong with trying, right?

Hi,
Thanks for the review. I am more taken with the M900. If you can get one from Acer can you review that for us? I know it is much bigger but I like its feature set better.
I saw a Russian preview of the M900 which seems to claim the the Qualcomm procs are faster than the Samsung one...I always thought it was the other way round!! Do you have any feelings about that from your review x960, and maybe you can run some benchmarks, even though the stats are often different from real life usage. Finally, do videos run smoothly on it?
Thanks,
Antony

Nicely written review. I do hope ACER will make a clamshell device.
Would you be able to give ACER suggestions that WE NEED A CLAMSHELL DEVICE with a fast processor please?
All devices that are coming out are all either lacking a keyboard, or if they have one, it's just a reshelve version of the first one like the HTC Touch PRO 2.

This 2.8" screen is just too small now a days...an Acer with a bigger 3.5 or more screen could be nice for you!

GPS:
Embedded SiRF Star III chipset, TMC function supported*,
(*Subjected to changes by region)
damn i wish my Touch HD had this type of GPS reciever!
However in the end, it's Acer, and Acer quality control is the worse i have ever seen.

AntonyL said:
Hi,
Thanks for the review. I am more taken with the M900. If you can get one from Acer can you review that for us? I know it is much bigger but I like its feature set better.
I saw a Russian preview of the M900 which seems to claim the the Qualcomm procs are faster than the Samsung one...I always thought it was the other way round!! Do you have any feelings about that from your review x960, and maybe you can run some benchmarks, even though the stats are often different from real life usage. Finally, do videos run smoothly on it?
Thanks,
Antony
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Funny you should mention that. I have an M900 in my hands too and am writing a review of it. Will take a little while tho.
As for speed, I've never used a HTC Diamond so can't compare them, but these devices are WAY faster than my Kaiser. I'll be happy to benchmark them for you though.. Which benchmark program would you suggest?
Video run flawlessly, without having to recode them to lower resolutions, but like with all devices, it depends very much on the bitrate they're encoded at. For example, I've tried watching Cars and High School Musical 1 on both phones in CorePlayer. Cars played perfectly, HSM was a tiny bit jerky. Both were DiVX files at 720x480 resolution, but HSM was encoded at a much higher bitrate than cars. Don't have the files on the phone atm to say exactly what the bitrate was though.

Psygnosis84 said:
GPS:
However in the end, it's Acer, and Acer quality control is the worse i have ever seen.
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Never experienced any build quality issues on any of my Acer stuff...

galaxys said:
This 2.8" screen is just too small now a days...an Acer with a bigger 3.5 or more screen could be nice for you!
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The M900 has a 3.8" screen and a hardware keyboard. Review "soon".

FloatingFatMan said:
Never experienced any build quality issues on any of my Acer stuff...
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I'm more referring to their PC ventures, worse stuff ever made.
Hopefully they have a better team for their mobile division.

Good Art or Sketch apps for the TPT?

I am an artist and picked up the TPT as an economical alternative to a Windows resistive tablet PC.
So far I am impressed with this thing, however, I cant seem to find any art-friendly apks designed to utilize the N-Trig technology with palm rejection fluidly.
I've used Sketchbook Pro which is mediocre and leaves much to be desired, such as pressure sensitivity and palm rejection (in which Quill excels at but isnt designed to be a true art app).
Other apps are for the most part poor, IMO.
Any suggestions? I've search inside and outside the Market with no success. I'd be willing to beta test apps to those of you who are software devs.
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thunerclaps said:
I am an artist and picked up the TPT as an economical alternative to a Windows resistive tablet PC.
So far I am impressed with this thing, however, I cant seem to find any art-friendly apks designed to utilize the N-Trig technology with palm rejection fluidly.
I've used Sketchbook Pro which is mediocre and leaves much to be desired, such as pressure sensitivity and palm rejection (in which Quill excels at but isnt designed to be a true art app).
Other apps are for the most part poor, IMO.
Any suggestions? I've search inside and outside the Market with no success. I'd be willing to beta test apps to those of you who are software devs.
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Sketchbook does support pressure sensitivity enable it on the settings
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ker2gsr said:
Sketchbook does support pressure sensitivity enable it on the settings
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You know what, I just discovered that - thanks.
I thought this app was limited but I see some potential. Unless there are alternatives out there, I'd have to wear a cotton glove to stop the detection of my palm when resting it on the surface.
I found Sketch N Draw is OK also, but doesnt allow too many "free-hand" options to be considered a serious tool.

Sketchbook is the best, PS Touch is a far second (there are glitches with stylus input). Neither of them are adequate for doing really serious work.

thunerclaps said:
You know what, I just discovered that - thanks.
I thought this app was limited but I see some potential. Unless there are alternatives out there, I'd have to wear a cotton glove to stop the detection of my palm when resting it on the surface.
I found Sketch N Draw is OK also, but doesnt allow too many "free-hand" options to be considered a serious tool.
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Are you a lefty or righty there are settings for that that may help with palm rejection I don't have to much issue with palm rejection you also have to get use to it there is a small trick to it draw first before resting your palm after that rejection works good from what I noticed as far a more functioning drawing program there is none the adobe apps were a disappointment
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You may want to try to hide the status bar - that does at least prevent some interruptions by the clock or the app wheel popping up while using the pen.

[Q] Any other Acer Iconia Dual Touchscreen Owners at XDA?

Acer Iconia Dual-Touchscreen 484G64ns in Europe /
Acer Iconia 6120 Dual-Touchscreen Tablet in the US /
and in Japan it is the Acer Iconia F54E​
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Acer Iconia onscreen Keyboard​
Blank Custome Keyboard Background:
http://www.xda-developers.ch/members/swiss420/images/kb_bg_by_swiss420.png
XDA Branded Keyboard Background:
http://www.xda-developers.ch/members/swiss420/images/kb_bg_by_swiss420_xda_branded.png​
I hope I am not the only one with this device because it really is a fun and unique Gadget but even Acer abandoned it shortly after release. I believe there is great potential in this Device, if we work together and share our tweaks and customizations. Maybe even play around with some Linux Distributions and once it gets released off course Windows 8. Preview worked great and the Windows 8 Keyboards will be a much needed improvement.
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Social Jogger / Acer Ring​
I am really hoping to find others here that have not given up yet and believe there is more to be done with it. As it is similar to the Samsung Galaxy Note in terms of, being between classes I would appreciate it if this does not end in a discussion if a Dual-Touchscreen is useful or not. Obviously I feel it has its practical applications while I recognize it is not something for everyone. As a little Side note my 86 year old Grandma asked me if she can have it. She loved playing around with Microsoft Surface Collage and for me that was an amazing reaction I never thought possible. Only problem now my Grandma and my 6 year old Sister fight over who gets to play around with the Acer Iconia when I come over.
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For example here with KiesAir but manual initiation.​
Note: It is a very special device from Acer that probably should never have left R&D. That said I am thrilled they did decide to release it. Unfortunately with the release of Windows 8 getting closer and Apple/Google trying to secure patents, all creative startup Companies producing Multitouch Infterfaces have been bought up and disappeared into these big Companies. For Example Bump Top Pro. If you ever had the pleasure of working with it you would never want another Desktop Interface again.
All Graphics were made on the Samsung Galaxy Note.​
Video is not done by me see Video on YouTube for more Information​
Bottom Screen Disasembly Instructions
1. Remove back cover plate
2. Remove the screws and disconnect cables marked in the picture below
3. Carefully separate the bottom screen from the case to get access to additional screws required to get full access to the motherboard. In order to separate the screen use a small plastic tool to move around the edge starting at the front and unhook it. Be gentle so you don't accidently break the plastic clips.
4. Be mindful of the cable connecting from the screen to the power button circuit in the right corner. You don't want to accidently tear the small wires that it consists of.
5. Remove all remaining screws that became accessible once the screen is removed.
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"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
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Reserved for Addons and Tweaks
In case there are others maybe we can collect the Licence free stuff here. Might come in handy for other Windows 8 Tablets comming up.
Drivers:
To fix the Ghost Touches on the Display use the Graphics Driver from Acer not Microsoft. Thanks to farinellobvom
Recovery:
Windows 8.1 Recovery (Thanks to Yogibar)
Tweaks:
Custome Blank Keyboard Background: http://www.xda-developers.ch/members/swiss420/images/kb_bg_by_swiss420.png
Custome XDA Branded Keyboard Background: http://www.xda-developers.ch/members/swiss420/images/kb_bg_by_swiss420_xda_branded.png
Social Jogger can be used on any Windows Dualscreen Computer (does not work on single Screens). Just copy the Folder under Program Files/Acer/Social Jogger make sure you got the newest Version
If you look at some of the DLL's for the Keyboard it is possible to reconfigure the whole Keyboard and its look. But it takes time.
Usefull Hardware Upgrades:
2x4GB = 8GB instead of the 2x2GB - There are some RAM hungry Apps.
If you dont need that much space or if you are rich enough go for a SSD. It will speed up things allot.
Sidenote: My previous statement about 16GB Ram was probably wrong. I just got informed that using 2x8GB will result in problems. So stay with 2x4GB and or if you got it to work please post how.
Recomended Applications:
Do check out the following post for the Hot Virtual Keyboard. A very customizable On Screen Keyboard: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54346346&postcount=35
Bump Top / English / German (3D Multitouch enabled Windows 7 Desktop Replacement - Sold to Google - IM me if you need help finding a good version)
InkSeine by Microsoft Research / Micosoft Research InkSeine Beta
Internet Explorer 10 Test Drive Webseiten (Not talking about IE10 just the Test Drive Websites)
Microsoft Origami Experience Pack v2 (Cool TabletPC Interface designed by Microsoft a long time ago)
Windows XP TabletPC PowerToys (most TabletPC tools for XP work fine under Windows 7 Multitouch)
SmartDraw 2012 (Touch Forms, etc)
ArtRage 3 (Cool Drawing Tool)
Kindle for PC (E-Book Reader)
Microsoft Education Pack
Betty Crooker Kitchen Assistant
SketchBookDesigner
TC Mania 3 VirtualDJ
Serene Screen (Photorealistic Aqarium Screensaver)
Roboform (Enter Passwords easely with your finger)
Research Materials:
Microsoft Research in 2002 "Inventing the TabletPC"
Microsoft Research in 2009 "Codex: A Dual Screen Tablet Computer"
Multitouch SDK:
Open Exhibits: http://openexhibits.org/
GestureWorks3 : http://gestureworks.com
In the Pictures I used a stand from a HP DockingStation for a HP NC4400

Reserved for Multitouch Gestures
With the Gesture Editor it would be nice to have some kind of list of common usefull commands that can be set or hopefully somehow importet. For Example

hi,
currently i'm using the acer iconia 484g64ns but somehow my acer ring doesn't work. i tried to check for the software on the net but couldn't find one. do you have any idea where i can get it?
thanks

swiss420 said:
With the Gesture Editor it would be nice to have some kind of list of common usefull commands that can be set or hopefully somehow importet. For Example
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Thanks for this stuff.
I'm currently hunting one of these laptops. I plan to put linux on it to use as a primary coding system for school.
Maybe now I won't look so silly carrying my USB keyboard everywhere to avoid using the integrated keyboard on another laptop.

I see both displays are working under linux 3.2.
Anyone know anything about the touchscreen in linux?

barakyie said:
hi,
currently i'm using the acer iconia 484g64ns but somehow my acer ring doesn't work. i tried to check for the software on the net but couldn't find one. do you have any idea where i can get it?
thanks
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ardentangel.com/iconia/OEM.rar
You must copy OEM folder on C: and run preload/autorunX/autorunX.exe application
I have found from ukrainean site the recovery image 16GB (PQSERVICE1....5). Is the russian version but with Vistlizator and english language pack I managed to have a new installation on my Acer Iconia.
edisk.ukr.net/?do=dir#cdir=shared
user name: iconia
password: 123456
Changing language pack tutorial:
youtube.com/watch?v=6lf8lAaop3c

Hi I need some help, I'm trying to set the ring gestures but the I can't no where to set my own gestures.
TIA.

i have just purchased one of these machines and after many firmware issues its finally up and running. One of the first programs i hope to install is traktor using the smithson martin emulator. When i have this completed i will upload pictures and videos for you.
I realise this post is fairly old now but im hoping there are still users of this iconia who are as into the whole dual screen technology as i am

Ghost touch
Hi guys! I got the answer!!!! DOWNLOAD from acer website the vga driver and install it. It wasn't a hardware problem it is a software problem windows installs vga drivers that are faulty so just install the acer one again and the ghost touch goes away. I have been a day with no ghost touch after I installed it. I used to have it at least once every 30 minutes. Happy day for everybody!!!!:good::good::laugh::laugh::good::good:

Where can you buy this device
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AndroidSlave said:
Where can you buy this device
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SVII using Tapatalk 6 Beta
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It is one of those Acer oddities where even Acer themselfes loose any and all interesst in the Product within 6 month of its release and there are good reason for this too. But the worst Thing is that you do not want to carry this Thing around. Any and all Drops would be fatal.
Acers newest odditie was the DA220HQL Smart Display with Android:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41769295&postcount=3
Acer is a creative Company but maybe sometimes a little to creative for their own good. I am just suprised that these Products even make it to the production line and dont end up as only prototypes, but for that I am very thankfull. I love these Gadgets just make sure you always wait for the Price to drop as soon as they realize they can never sell them all. Then you can buy them to Play around. Otherwise you pay a premium Price for a non premium Device/Toy.

farinellobvom said:
Hi guys! I got the answer!!!! DOWNLOAD from acer website the vga driver and install it. It wasn't a hardware problem it is a software problem windows installs vga drivers that are faulty so just install the acer one again and the ghost touch goes away. I have been a day with no ghost touch after I installed it. I used to have it at least once every 30 minutes. Happy day for everybody!!!!:good::good::laugh::laugh::good::good:
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how did you get on with this? Doesnt seem to of solved the ghost touch issue for me, but granted it is happening a lot less

hazza666 said:
how did you get on with this? Doesnt seem to of solved the ghost touch issue for me, but granted it is happening a lot less
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Hi! I installed the drive few days ago and no ghost touch until now. I did use the foam tape before and it still there maybe you should do both install the driver and and the tape as in senpa.us.
Good luck

ghost touch relieved with foam tape
I used the foam tape 4 months ago and the ghost touches are gone. I do occasionally suffer episodes of touchscreen keyboard non-responsiveness when awaking the machine from sleep, however. This Iconia rocks with windows 8 pro!

hazza666 said:
how did you get on with this? Doesnt seem to of solved the ghost touch issue for me, but granted it is happening a lot less
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farinellobvom said:
Hi! I installed the drive few days ago and no ghost touch until now. I did use the foam tape before and it still there maybe you should do both install the driver and and the tape as in senpa.us.
Good luck
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Docta_J2H3 said:
I used the foam tape 4 months ago and the ghost touches are gone. I do occasionally suffer episodes of touchscreen keyboard non-responsiveness when awaking the machine from sleep, however. This Iconia rocks with windows 8 pro!
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Thanks guys for your Feedback. Dident expect that anyone else still using this device. It has been a while since last started it. It just Looks cool on the Desk for now.
Would you guys mind sharing which exact Version of the Driver that worked best for you?

swiss420 said:
Thanks guys for your Feedback. Dident expect that anyone else still using this device. It has been a while since last started it. It just Looks cool on the Desk for now.
Would you guys mind sharing which exact Version of the Driver that worked best for you?
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This is the link:
http://global-download.acer.com/GDF...&Step3=ICONIA&OS=ALL&LC=en&BC=ACER&SC=EMEA_27
I would like to try win 8, but I am afraid it will not work properly. Any of you have any tips, or what version is better, or links for the drivers?
Other thing, I can not play some old games as age of empire or settlers, any idea if it is possible play them?
This is an fantastic device but there are not many information about it. So we all need to find solutions an share them.
:good:

If anyone is interested i do have service guides, firmware, touch engine, list of part numbers etc for this machine that i am willing to share.

hazza666 said:
If anyone is interested i do have service guides, firmware, touch engine, list of part numbers etc for this machine that i am willing to share.
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Hi! I am interested to have them, now that I don't have ghost touch any more I will try to get the best of it. I do love old games any of you know if there is a way to play age of empire 1 and 2 on this laptop?
Thanks

Think i am gonna have to bite the bullet and try the foam tape idea. Was the ghost touch happening on just one screen or both for everybody else?
farinellobvom i have sent you a pm