I am an artist and picked up the TPT as an economical alternative to a Windows resistive tablet PC.
So far I am impressed with this thing, however, I cant seem to find any art-friendly apks designed to utilize the N-Trig technology with palm rejection fluidly.
I've used Sketchbook Pro which is mediocre and leaves much to be desired, such as pressure sensitivity and palm rejection (in which Quill excels at but isnt designed to be a true art app).
Other apps are for the most part poor, IMO.
Any suggestions? I've search inside and outside the Market with no success. I'd be willing to beta test apps to those of you who are software devs.
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I am an artist and picked up the TPT as an economical alternative to a Windows resistive tablet PC.
So far I am impressed with this thing, however, I cant seem to find any art-friendly apks designed to utilize the N-Trig technology with palm rejection fluidly.
I've used Sketchbook Pro which is mediocre and leaves much to be desired, such as pressure sensitivity and palm rejection (in which Quill excels at but isnt designed to be a true art app).
Other apps are for the most part poor, IMO.
Any suggestions? I've search inside and outside the Market with no success. I'd be willing to beta test apps to those of you who are software devs.
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Sketchbook does support pressure sensitivity enable it on the settings
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Sketchbook does support pressure sensitivity enable it on the settings
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You know what, I just discovered that - thanks.
I thought this app was limited but I see some potential. Unless there are alternatives out there, I'd have to wear a cotton glove to stop the detection of my palm when resting it on the surface.
I found Sketch N Draw is OK also, but doesnt allow too many "free-hand" options to be considered a serious tool.
Sketchbook is the best, PS Touch is a far second (there are glitches with stylus input). Neither of them are adequate for doing really serious work.
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You know what, I just discovered that - thanks.
I thought this app was limited but I see some potential. Unless there are alternatives out there, I'd have to wear a cotton glove to stop the detection of my palm when resting it on the surface.
I found Sketch N Draw is OK also, but doesnt allow too many "free-hand" options to be considered a serious tool.
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Are you a lefty or righty there are settings for that that may help with palm rejection I don't have to much issue with palm rejection you also have to get use to it there is a small trick to it draw first before resting your palm after that rejection works good from what I noticed as far a more functioning drawing program there is none the adobe apps were a disappointment
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You may want to try to hide the status bar - that does at least prevent some interruptions by the clock or the app wheel popping up while using the pen.
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Firstly, I've been following the leaks so far, and so I don't want to hear, oh there won't be a multitouch. The bottom line is, we don't know what the final product will be.
Secondly, it goes without saying, that I support any efforts by MS to incorporate capacitative screens. Currently, there are two known and upcoming solutions to replace the stylus, one an RF pen (a stylus that should work with cap. screens- google it!) and a solution that MS has recently invested in, called something like N-trig.
The purpose of this thread is to discuss, and make content those who are against multitouch if it comes to 6.5, or for that matter, 7.
Now, the main argument against multitouch, is that it is against single-handed usage. Here I will list why that is a moot/null/void argument:
- Using the iPhone as an example firstly (and pretty much throughout but it is not due to me having a liking for it, rather I hate it, but I hope to convey a more profound message), though there is argument over the pinch gesture in Safari (their internet browser), the double-tap to zoom is still available. So, the double-tap that we are used to in Opera, is also in Safari. So one can have it both ways. So, to sum up this point, devs would need to make sure that their programs are made for single handed usage, but that multitouch offers a different (and as some would argue, more enhanced) method of using the phone. So single-handed usage is still there, basically.
- Some games, require pressing of more than one button simultaneously. Now if buttons A, B and C are onscreen and are only viable via touch entry, then we're screwed once again as only one given button can be pressed at one time. If you're a gamer, you will know how big a limitation this is to your phone. It hurts in so many scenarios. If you're not into games, or your games are limited to puzzles: trust me, this is a biggie!
- A similar and relevant point; phones like Touch HD bear the brunt of lacking multitouch, as they don't even have a D-pad for games. So all buttons onscreen (D-pad inclusive) can only be pressed one-at-a-time!
- Whether you like this app or not, it demonstrates that some apps simply cannot do without multitouch. Why put limitations? If you want to argue it is against single-touch usage, then press one button at a time !
- Another app that is somewhat heartwarming . I've used it on an acquaintance's iPhone, and it's nice to swirl two of your fingers through the pond making multiple ripples. Again, just use single touch if you're against double ripples .
- Text entry for those of us that type at lightning speed would be hindered where we are required to press one button right next to the next one in quick succession. Why put this limitation?
- I will add more here onwards if something comes to mind. Maybe. Maybe not.
So all in all, single handed usage can still be there, and MS can enforce this in their SkyStore (app store equivalent), though granted it could be difficult. But most developers would do this, as most do what their customers want, not what I, the dev want.
LASTLY, this is not a WM bashing thread if you think like that, so stop hating! This is for improvements only!
Just to let you know...it's not all M$'s fault..Mostly HTC and the companys that make the devices. Just look at the omnia. It has a capactive touchscreen.
Good Points, and just because WM6.5 has Mutlitouch available doesn't mean devs or phone builders would HAVE to use it.
I'm a big fan of "many options."
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Just to let you know...it's not all M$'s fault..Mostly HTC and the companys that make the devices. Just look at the omnia. It has a capactive touchscreen.
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Is this truly true ? If so, why doesn't Samsung advertise it as much? Also, doesn't the small buttons become difficult to use?
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Good Points, and just because WM6.5 has Mutlitouch available doesn't mean devs or phone builders would HAVE to use it.
I'm a big fan of "many options."
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This is precisely my point! The only little niggle is that devs should make sure that productivity tools allow single handed usage as well. One way would be to enforce this through the SkyStore. Another would be to let the magic happen itself.
I really want to see what people will say against my strong defence of multitouch. Come on people!
It will raise the cost of the devices (both due to the much more expensive screen AND the need for a special, larger stylus) and create a further layer of incompatibility between WM devices (those with multi-touch and those without).
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and create a further layer if incomparability between WM devices (those with multi-touch and those without).
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Which is why everyone should have to buy a new device when Windows Mobile 7 is released.
Seems people are forgeting WM6.5 is more like Vista, a stop gap before the better OS ie Windows 7
Why WM6.5 does not have mltitouch ?
I will try to answer this question.
The big hardware manifacturers are in the begining of producin multitouch capable phones (you all know that you need multitouch capable digitizer in order to be able to use multitouch). Microsoft communicated with manifacturers and they were not ready with such devices, which is the reason multitouch to be reserved for windows mobile 7.
Seems people are forgeting WM6.5 is more like Vista, a stop gap before the better OS ie Windows 7
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Totally agree
I see no real benefit in multi-touch on small screen. granted, in games with on devices with minimal input buttons, but until device manufactures actually start releasing 3D drivers for the devices the point about gaming isn't of much substance because there will only be mediocre games.
I don't know what the masses want but I see little benefit in it on screens that one can stretch the thumb from bottom left of the device and reach the top right.
I rather draw a counter clockwise circle to zoom and a clockwise to zoom out.
the real benefit is in the screen response, not the multi-touch. aside from gaming, tell me what other real benefit is there? because I don't see it.
Text entry for those of us that type at lightning speed would be hindered where we are required to press one button right next to the next one in quick succession. Why put this limitation?
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I think this depends on the sip you're using and have no reliance on multi-touch capabilities. I see myself as a very fast typist and this is thanks to the sip I'm using.
do this, ask your friend to do this with his iPhone: press 2 keys at the same time while typing the word "Quilts", so your friend would type it like this "Qu" then "il" then "ts" and tell us what's the result. I am pretty curious as to what the results will be. I would ask my girl to do it but she's at work now.
Hey guys, I've released my first app on the Market and it's made and tested on the Transformer.
I want this app to be as close to writing on real paper as possible. I'll be using this app myself to take math notes when school starts. Let me know what you think!
Features:
Smooth writing experience: no lag and no jitter between the stylus movement and the screen response. This is the most important part for me; having loads of features doesn't matter if I can't write well! It works perfectly on the Transformer and I'm testing it out on other tablets.
Smart palm detection. Only records the writing from your stylus! (note: only works for right handed people now. will add the setting for left-handers later)
Export page and notebook: share the page as PNG file, or export the whole thing as a ZIP file to your dropbox or gmail. Share works with programs like Evernote. You can also export it as a PDF file!
Paper type: comes with four familiar paper types.
Stylus calibration: Instead of drawing where the stylus touches the screen, it will draw where you *think* the stylus tip is. Good for those thicker tip styluses.
I use a Griffin stylus: http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Techn...0K1Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1314056598&sr=8-1, modded with the rubber grip from a Pentel pencil: http://www.amazon.com/Pentel-Twist-E.../dp/B00006IEH1
The main thread is over on the XOOM forums. You'll find the APK there for a trial version (expires October): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204885
Market link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.writepad
I look forward to using this app when I get a stylus. Palm detection seemed to work well from resting my palm and using my pinky/other hand to write.
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I look forward to using this app when I get a stylus. Palm detection seemed to work well from resting my palm and using my pinky/other hand to write.
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I definitely recommend the Griffin stylus. The tip is a bit fat but once you do the calibration it works just fine. I was happy to be able to write subscripts and superscripts (exponents) clearly. The Transformer's screen is really sensitive. Just loving it. I don't know how it compares to other tablets though.
I am using a rocketfish stylus I picked up from bestbuy and it works beautifully. One thing I would like to request though is a landscape mode.
Writing in portrait is kind of akward... Also there is a small amount of lag, keep up the good work and I would like to let you know this is the best App of its kind in the market!
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Nice app! Will try it out when college starts!
Not that impressed
It is an excellent idea, but my stylus left gaps in the letters, it was hard to differentiate between a c and an e for example. Now it could be that my stylus (there are no thins ones for capacitive screens, right?) isn't good enough so I ordered the Griffin from Amazon (OP you should get a cut). We'll see.
Can it also convert handwriting to actual text?
any free version to try ?
Free version in the other thread. Just download and install the APK
Good looking app.
Thoughts:
- Love the palm detection.
- Add Landscape mode.
- Lags a bit.
- FreeNote picks up my handwriting better (i.e. not all stylus strokes are being recognized.)
System Used:
- Asus TF w/ Prime 1.7 & Netformer
- Targus stylus. Very similar to the Griffin if not the same.
Thanks for sharing
Great app use it for school everyday. Would love to see in the future the ablity to copy a page ( like a graph ) so I don't have to redo it over and over. Also it would be cool if we could import text documents ( online teacher notes) and use the stylus to take notes in the margins during lectures. Landscape mode would be wonderful and improved response time too. Also one bug I noticed not sure if anyone else has noticed but occasionally strokes will disappear immediately after making them. Thanks so much for this app it is really amazing.
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I purchased this app to possibly further development because I think it has potential. Will you add pressure sensitivity similar to how AutoDesk's Sketchbook works? I use that currently to take notes but I really like the palm recognition with this app. I have used this application for note taking for a few weeks prior to purchasing it. Thanks!
one more thing i'd love to see if possible, could you add the option to change the color of the pen stroke.
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What is this palm recognition you guys are talking about?
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What is this palm recognition you guys are talking about?
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Palm recognition is where when you place the palm of your hand on the screen as a rest for writing the screen then does not detect the palm as a 'touch' for writing/drawing.
Basically how it works is the same on many TabletPC's in where the 'touch' point area is smaller before registering a hit on the screen.
So, a small area of say a pen or finger is registered and shows on the screen, whereas a larger area of say a palm is not registered and as such does not show on the screen.
Pretty decent. Im using the Targus stlyus.
A few complaints- I tend to be a small writer so it sometimes doesnt recognize my w's, e's, etc.
Im not sure if its the stylus but there seems to be a small bit of lag when you write.
Also, I'd love if zooming in was inegrated- this way if you do any math equations, its not HUGE and you could easily write a fraction of sorts. Maybe like on the left side next to where you can scroll, add a scroll zoom bar or + - buttons in a corner.
Im really wanting to use this and possibly get rid of paper completely this semester and keep it all digital. Teachers even said they want to and want us to save paper.
Keep pushing updates and ill be happy
Left Hander Writing Pad Location (Note II User)
transceiver said:
Hey guys, I've released my first app on the Market and it's made and tested on the Transformer.
I want this app to be as close to writing on real paper as possible. I'll be using this app myself to take math notes when school starts. Let me know what you think!
Features:
Smooth writing experience: no lag and no jitter between the stylus movement and the screen response. This is the most important part for me; having loads of features doesn't matter if I can't write well! It works perfectly on the Transformer and I'm testing it out on other tablets.
Smart palm detection. Only records the writing from your stylus! (note: only works for right handed people now. will add the setting for left-handers later)
Export page and notebook: share the page as PNG file, or export the whole thing as a ZIP file to your dropbox or gmail. Share works with programs like Evernote. You can also export it as a PDF file!
Paper type: comes with four familiar paper types.
Stylus calibration: Instead of drawing where the stylus touches the screen, it will draw where you *think* the stylus tip is. Good for those thicker tip styluses.
I use a Griffin stylus: http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Techn...0K1Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1314056598&sr=8-1, modded with the rubber grip from a Pentel pencil: http://www.amazon.com/Pentel-Twist-E.../dp/B00006IEH1
The main thread is over on the XOOM forums. You'll find the APK there for a trial version (expires October): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204885
Market link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.writepad
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Great app i think i may have used the trial in my exploration for an app that supports my needs.
i was wondering if the "left hand" update is available and what it may include?
what i would like (not sure if other lefties would be interested) is,
have the phone in landscape
the writing pad on the left
the digital paper on the right (in portrait view)
If you or any other developer is able to do this, it would be worth double your current $9.99 asking price for the app for me.
(a 7 day trial would be awesome just to make sure its the app that suits me.)
Thanks in advance.
Has anyone tried this with a Jot?
Is there a limited trial version available?
Can it convert from graphics to text?
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I really like the way this app works, but it's missing one thing. pdf support. I use my tf101 for classes, and one of them gives us a pdf document to take notes on. Any chance of this functionality being added soon?
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Hello everyone, this app has now come out of beta and has been released on Google Play. It is still free and they will offer various in-app purchases going forward.
The link to the release version can be found here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwyLDEsImNvbS5tZXRhbW9qaS5ub3RlYW55dGltZSJd
There is also a new version of the handwriting recognition app called 'Mazec2' which has also been released. If you have purchased the first version, they have advised not to purchase as existing users will get a free upgrade soon. This app will allow you to write in your own handwriting using Note Anytime and convert to text later e.g. after returning to your desk from a meeting etc.
The link to mazec2 can be found here for those who may wish to purchase it:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5tZXRhbW9qaS5tYXplY2VuIl0.
mazec2 also allows you to use handwriting input in any app that uses a keyboard however will convert the handwriting to text as you go i.e. will not let you convert to text later unless used in conjunction with Note Anytime or another app known as 7Notes.
The app works brilliantly with the Note 10.1 but unfortunately does not offer stylus only (S-Pen) input at present. To use palm rejection, place the S-Pen close to the screen until you can see the dot and then rest your palm on the screen and write away.
Another issue with the android version is that you cannot convert notes to PDF directly from the app, the notes are saved as images in your gallery whereby you can use a third party app to convert them all into a single PDF document.
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Hello everyone,
There's a new note taking app coming our way and hopefully will be the most full featured and smooth app for this purpose to date.
It has been released for iPad and the new Windows platform but us Android users have to wait as usual. Hopefully they are saving the best till last!
The app has been developed by the same team that brought us 7Notes, anyone who knows about the 7Notes app will testify that it is one of the best if not, the best handwriting to text apps available.
Notes Anytime hopefully will include this functionality with S-pen compatibility but unfortunately I could not find any confirmation of this. The iPad version does not have handwriting to text option however the Windows one does.
I have tried the app on my wife's iPad and can say that it really works well even with a fat capacitive touch stylus.
If you want to know more and see some videos on other platforms, use the link below:
http://www.product.metamoji.com/en/anytime/
The app will also allow you to load pdf files straight into it for annotation and has some really nice calligraphy style pens for making your handwriting look really nice. The user interface is very intuitive and all the tools for creating notes are easily at hand. The app also uses vector graphics so if you resize items, you will not lose any quality.
This may be the S-note killer that we have been waiting for although I could not see any shape or formula tools on the iPad version.
Please post any new info about availability if you can find out more.
checked out the link, looks pretty nice...looking forward to this. Thanks for the heads up OP
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checked out the link, looks pretty nice...looking forward to this. Thanks for the heads up OP
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No problem, I have emailed the developers of the app for some specific functionality for the Note 10.1 i.e. if they will include pen support etc Will let you know if I hear any more news.
I have had some feedback from the company which will give you an idea of what to expect from the app, bear in mind that the answers provided are subject to change depending on what is released. The questions followed by responses are shown below:
1) When do you plan to release the app for the Android platform? Spring next year, it is said.
2) Will it have handwriting to text like 7Notes? Maybe or maybe not. This is under consideration.
3) Will the app facilitate digital pen input? No plan at this moment.
4) If the notes are saved in the Note Anytime format using an iPad, can it be read on other platforms such as android or Windows 8 with editing functionality? Yes! You can share the notes among different devices using our storage service "Digital Cabinet".
Look nice, but tired of being the last platform again
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Hi all,
A beta version of the app has been launched on the Google play:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.metamoji.noteanytime_beta
It has tons of useful functionality but handwriting/ drawing needs to be improved for the note 10.1, especially with curved letters such as s. Strangely, handwriting worked ok with the note 2.
It has OneNote like functionality with regards to text and works really well with the 7Notes handwriting entry panel (separate app from same developers with amazing handwriting recognition)
In its current state, other than the issue mentioned above, features work really well and this can easily become the top note taking tool on Android to date. It just needs to work seamlessly with the note 10.1 to achieve this.
This looks really nice but I agree on the handwriting portion. Everytime I try to write a "w" it puts a \ and asks if I want to add an item.
Using the Samsung OCR keyboard works perfectly and I like the scaling and repositioning functionality.
I'll keep it installed for now hoping that they update soon on the handwriting options.
looks awesome, will try it now.
Re: Note Anytime - coming soon on Google Play
Needs better RTF and text functions but promising.
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This looks really nice but I agree on the handwriting portion. Everytime I try to write a "w" it puts a \ and asks if I want to add an item.
Using the Samsung OCR keyboard works perfectly and I like the scaling and repositioning functionality.
I'll keep it installed for now hoping that they update soon on the handwriting options.
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Yep, same issue here, I have emailed the developers and they have acknowledged there is an issue but seems to be only affecting the note series. They have passed to the development team to look into.
Will keep you updated if I here anything.
when using spen the screen seems to be very little responsive compearing to ie. lecture notes.
i need to push spen pretty hard to write and no continous writing was possible then. even on sensitive settings.
in lecture notes it is like writing on paper. in this app, not really.
lots of work to be done if they want to make the app spen compatible.
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A new version (beta II) has been released today.
Unfortunately it seems that there's still no support for Samsung S Pen, even if
in the new version announcement notice (here) it's said that
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- Improved handwriting (in particular, for 10.1 size tablet with Samsung S-pen)
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Anyway I couldn't set (or see) any pressure sensitivity in the handwriting with the stylus (nor any palm rejection setting too).
But maybe I have missed them.
Or (hopefully) they will come with the next official release.
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A new version (beta II) has been released today.
Unfortunately it seems that there's still no support for Samsung S Pen, even if
in the new version announcement notice (here) it's said that
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- Improved handwriting (in particular, for 10.1 size tablet with Samsung S-pen)
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Anyway I couldn't set (or see) any pressure sensitivity in the handwriting with the stylus (nor any palm rejection setting too).
But maybe I have missed them.
Or (hopefully) they will come with the next official release.
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I've updated it today and can say that it is very usable now, before the update it was almost impossible to write any curved letters. The writing is very smooth now.
I think the fix was mainly so that it could work with the Note 10.1 Spen, non Note users did not have issues using their fingers or fat stylus's. pressure sensitivity was definitely not a part of this update.
For palm rejection to work, move the S-Pen close to where you want to write until you can see the S-Pen dot hovering on the screen and start writing. If you now rest your palm, there should not be any issues.
Today's update makes the app functional using our notes although there is room for improvement going forward.
It will be my ideal app if this note-anytime UI combine with lecture-note function ...
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Op has been updated with the latest news about this app.
I am loving the new update. Lines are smooth and writing feels pretty good. The only thing is I feel like there is still a little bit of lag when writing and then lag when clicking menus.
I cannot wait for the S-pen only option to be implemented. That plus some performance tweaks would make it my primary notetaking app. The features are pretty solid at the moment I think. Keep it up!
Can anyone share the app?
I would like to try that but in Google Play I get info, that the app isnt available for my phone
I have Galaxy Note 2 with fully functional NOTE 10.1 rom on it(miniTAB rom).
Tnx for help and take care
There definitely seems to be more lag.
Hey guys,
Why is there no app that uses your front camera and projects a keyboard on the surface of the table? You look at your phones screen and type away on the desk. This would be a pretty cool app. Do you know if there is something like this around?
Thanks
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Hey guys,
Why is there no app that uses your front camera and projects a keyboard on the surface of the table? You look at your phones screen and type away on the desk. This would be a pretty cool app. Do you know if there is something like this around?
Thanks
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It's a little difficult to hold your phone and type at the same time.. you'd need a stand which would kind of get in your way.
There's tech out there with eye tracking technology where you could use Holo glasses to type with your eyes although traditional typing is still phenomenally faster. And mouth tracking technology w/ face cam that converts how you move your mouth/tongue to text might be a better tech idea since it could work in any noise level environment and be faster than as fast as most typers can type.
Some day we'll have signal detectors on our heads intercepting directions we think.
But aside from the ergonomic issues, your idea is fun.
Depth sensors
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Kinect, Touch+, Leap Motion, Nimble Sense, Project Tango, SoftKinetic, Intel RealSense, etc. are all various combinations of hardware and software to detect depth and gestures.
There was also a MIT and Microsoft article about the ability to use infrared LED lights and machine learning techniques to turn a simple single-lens camera into a 3-D one.
technologyreview/com/news/529986/turning-a-regular-smartphone-camera-into-a-3-d-one/
However, at this point, there seems to be a shift to depth cameras, such as the Intel RealSense that is already integrated into laptops.
Time-of-flight (TOF) cameras for point cloud data have more potential,.
It would need to be built into your phone to be cost-effective, and even then, look how pricey Project Tango is right now.
Intel RealSense is in the HP Sprout (has a projector), but it can’t do surface touch yet.
3divi has a "turn a surface into touch surface" prototype Youtube video (youtube/com/watch?v=upGTLrSUa5c ) that uses Kinect, and a Pico projector.
Touch+ was the biggest help last year, as it was only $75 for surface touch, but the people behind it can’t even get the drivers out yet.
Check out Wired’s article on the UI of Magic Leap:
>Magic Leap UI: Totems: cameras on headset could track any piece of material that’s been defined as “mouse.”
>Shows keyboard made from soft rubber that would deform and provide haptic feedback while HMD overlaid images.
>AR system may render virtual computer keyboard on surface of rectangular aluminum
wired/com/2015/01/magic-leaps-vision-for-virtual-reality/
It's like the Optimus Maximum keyboard of 2008, where every keyboard key has an OLED display so that you can remap any key to do whatever you want.
It's like that, except it doesn't cost $2000.
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There's tech out there with eye tracking technology where you could use Holo glasses to type with your eyes although traditional typing is still phenomenally faster.
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An Android SDK for eye-tracking was revealed at CES.
dailydot/com/technology/eye-tribe-eye-tracking-android-sdk-ces-2015/
I think that modifying the camera for eye-tracking is cheap, and most likely much cheaper than changing the camera to a depth sensor like in Project Tango.
With surface touch, you still might be looking at the surface some of the time, like in the dual screen HP Sprout.
With eye-tracking, you could have an eye-tracking “select-what-am-looking-at” button.
Look, touch an easy-to-reach “tap-where-I’m-looking” button, look, and then touch the same button again.
You don’t have to keep changing your hand and finger positions between each tap.
For typing:
>Microsoft patents eye-tracking keyboard software
>The idea’s just like swipe-based keyboard software, but instead of tracking the motion of your fingertip, the system tracks eye movement.
pocketnow/com/2014/12/24/eye-tracking-keyboard
Automated lip reading
TryHardBlueonMac said:
And mouth tracking technology w/ face cam that converts how you move your mouth/tongue to text might be a better tech idea since it could work in any noise level environment and be faster than as fast as most typers can type.
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It’s a tough problem, but people are working on it:
>“The first problem for automated lip reading is face and lip recognition.
This has improved in leaps and bounds in recent years.
A more difficult challenge is in recognizing, extracting and categorizing the geometric features of the lips during speech.
This is done by measuring the height and width of the lips as well as other features such as the shape of the ellipse bounding the lips, the amount of teeth on view and the redness of the image, which determines the amount of tongue that is visible.
Hassanat’s own visual speech recognition system is remarkably good.
His experiments achieve an average success rate of 76 percent, albeit in carefully controlled conditions.
The success rate is even higher for women because of the absence of beards and mustaches.
All this suggests that there is significant potential for visual speech recognition systems in the future, particularly as an aid to other forms of speech recognition.”
– Ahmad Hassanat at Mu’tah University in Jordan
technologyreview/com/view/530641/the-challenges-and-threats-of-automated-lip-reading/
TryHardBlueonMac said:
Some day we'll have signal detectors on our heads
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EEG
I’ve heard about the Emotiv EEG.
Just a few basic commands that are paired up with other inputs, like eye-tracking, would be useful.
E.g. of some adequate, basic commands:
* 1) open menu of on-screen shortcuts
* 2) select-what-I’m-looking-at (using eye tracker)
* 3) no/back/cancel
What Emotiv offers:
> “In order to provide consistency and a simple range of possible actions, each user profile will contain space for training data for up to 15 different commands, which are internally labelled COMMAND1 to COMMAND15.
With an eye tracker, you probably don’t need that many brain commands if you’re just going to be using the mind for a “Yes,-select-what-I'm-looking-at” or “back” for on-screen, virtual buttons.
Thought functions merely as the switch.
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