This is the official thread for Ireland/UK areas and all their respective constituencies. This thread is to be used to discuss things Galaxy S4 related - e.g. prices/deals across different networks, reviews, tips & tricks, apps etc. Basically, all discussion should be concerning the Galaxy S4. Naturally comparisons to other phones like the Xperia Z and HTC One can be discussed but **PLEASE** don't turn this thread into another one of the "hTC 1 vs SoKnee Ekspeeria Ze Vs. Sammy GalaXy sFour" threads.
Known Information
• Released on 26th April.
• The SIM free prices in the UK are all above the normal £500-£530 cost for a 16GB high-end Android and the cost seems to generally be around £600, but you may find a better price if you read through the posts. If any UK user could provide me with tariffs and/or links for the UK networks via PM, it would be very much appreciated.
• In Ireland O2, Vodafone, Three and Meteor have all released the phone - but only on bill pay tariffs for the moment. People on Prepay/Pay As You Go will have to wait.
• Both countries have the I9505 Snapdragon S600 Quad Core 1.9GHz + Adreno GPU version which has 4G compatibility, as was announced by Samsung. It comes with Android JB 4.2.2. Samsung will push Key Lime Pie 5.0 updates to S4 when KLP is released.
• Main reason for this is the mass 4G rollout across the different networks in both countries.
• I9500 Exynos Octa Core version with PowerVR GPU may come into market later on. The actual Exynos Octa Core processor itself supports LTE and all 20 bands provided that there is a LTE chip. However the I9500 doesn't have the LTE chip and therefore will NOT support LTE. (credits to darrendm for clarifying this point)
OP will be updated as we get more information, please PM me if you have any new information you think should be on the OP - especially UK users.
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I'm reading that the UK might get the snapdragon version due to 4g taking off, possibly no exynos to start with?
Unless there's little difference in speed between the Exynos/power vr & snapdragon/adreno (cpu AND gpu) I want the Exynos version. I hope both variants get released at the same time sim free.
Anyone know more on this?
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I'm reading that the UK might get the snapdragon version due to 4g taking off, possibly no exynos to start with?
Unless there's little difference in speed between the Exynos/power vr & snapdragon/adreno (cpu AND gpu) I want the Exynos version. I hope both variants get released at the same time sim free.
Anyone know more on this?
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I am hearing the same rumours and the thing which does not make sense is that with the ever expanding 4G in various countries why would they stifle their own flag ship phone with just 3G???
Also what happens if you want a sim free version with 4G will that also be available as both options for purchase?
Too many questions and as of yet not enough answers..
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I can see a lot of people moving networks just to get different S4 variants. As for Ireland, AFAIK there won't be 4G on Three till the second half of the year so it's not a biggie for me.
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I've been waiting for a decent phone to upgrade to for ages now.. Really hope we get the octa coupled with 4g if its possible. I give up waiting on htc to make a good phone and keeping it in top spot. I would have been very upset if I upgraded to Htc one X from my sensation. Really hoping the gs4 delivers.
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Sunny88 said:
I've been waiting for a decent phone to upgrade to for ages now.. Really hope we get the octa coupled with 4g if its possible. I give up waiting on htc to make a good phone and keeping it in top spot. I would have been very upset if I upgraded to Htc one X from my sensation. Really hoping the gs4 delivers.
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You could always wait till the Note 3 and see if that's more to your liking.
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But phones 4u said s4 will support 4g.
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My guess is both will be available, possibly at a price difference, due to cost of 4g and the fact that a lot of people aren't bothered about 4g.
The other scenario I see is that the LTE version may only be available through carriers, all of which is going to contribute to seriously split development. Samsung playing divide and rule?.........nice little weekend thought for all you paranoid conspiracy theorists
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But phones 4u said s4 will support 4g.
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We need confirmation that the octa-core has LTE only thing we know so far is the quad core variant does but the UK is getting the octa-core version??
Possibly
EE = Qualcoom S600 LTE
Orange/T-Mobile = Octa-core 3G
Vodafone = Octa-core 3G
O2 = Octa-core 3G
Three = Octa-core 3G
SIM Free = anyone's guess!!
So people opening a new contract or upgrading have to decide what is more important a phone which has 4G for the future or a possibly faster phone stuck on 3G, not a good way to start Samsung with your flagship if this is the case.
As I am after sim free I hope I can choose either variant as I am on an EE contract and really want a octa-core LTE!
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As I am after sim free I hope I can choose either variant as I am on an EE contract and really want a octa-core LTE!
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I guess we'll just have to wait for more info nearer the release date (hopefully!)
I normally buy sim-free too and I'm with 3 who will not be charging extra for 4G so yeah, I would like my toast buttered on both sides too
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Isadora said:
I guess we'll just have to wait for more info nearer the release date (hopefully!)
I normally buy sim-free too and I'm with 3 who will not be charging extra for 4G so yeah, I would like my toast buttered on both sides too
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Hopefully it won't be too long before we get to hear what the UK spec one will be like.
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Hopefully it won't be too long before we get to hear what the UK spec one will be like.
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I can tell you the specs of the S4 being released on the 3 network in Ireland.
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And it's being released from April 26th so it should be released 1-3 days around that time in the UK.
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My head tells me buy a s4 but my heart says no a htc one :cyclops:
So if i understand no 4g on the eight core version.
rickoslyder said:
I can tell you the specs of the S4 being released on the 3 network in Ireland.
And it's being released from April 26th so it should be released 1-3 days around that time in the UK.
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I wonder what markets will actually get the exynos variant then in europe?
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Hi everyone, I am an international student and am living in Liverpool currently. I wanna ask how I can borrow a S4 to do a review clip for the forum I joined in in my country. because S4 will be sold in my country later (about May) so it will be great if any of you living in liverpool may lend me for half an hour to take the clip. thanks
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Isadora said:
I guess we'll just have to wait for more info nearer the release date (hopefully!)
I normally buy sim-free too and I'm with 3 who will not be charging extra for 4G so yeah, I would like my toast buttered on both sides too
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I'll grab octacore whatever, as long as it gets released in UK sim free. Not really fussed about 4g. I'm on 3 unlimited data and get high speed most places around bristol. I listen to Di radio, streaming almost buffer free when I'm driving at work. I can also stream catchup TV with little problem, downloads are fast enough too, cant see what 4g would give me I don't already have?
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skibadee said:
I'll grab octacore whatever, as long as it gets released in UK sim free. Not really fussed about 4g. I'm on 3 unlimited data and get high speed most places around bristol. I listen to Di radio, streaming almost buffer free when I'm driving at work. I can also stream catchup TV with little problem, downloads are fast enough too, cant see what 4g would give me I don't already have?
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I'm not particularly fussed about 4G either but if it turns out that we can have it on the octa thingamajig then it would be rude not to... particularly given the no extra cost from 3 for it.
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Whilst I'm not fussed about 4g, it would be nice to be have it for free when Three get their 4g network sorted out
The only thing I'm worried about is the lack of devs saying they'll dev for S4..
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http://m.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-uk-sim-free-price-emerges-530-inc-vat
http://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s4-sim-free-p-84354.html
No mention of octacore, just a quad
Edit : They emailed me back. It no longer shows "quad" in the description and they say:
"We understand that it will likely to be the octacore, we are just waiting on 100% confirmation".
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I am switching to Sprint for fincial reasons and was going to get the Galaxy S II and then I found out Sprint was going to get 4G LTE so I waited. Then I was going to get the Nexus with 4G LTE but then again I found out that the HTC EVO is coming out so I waited. Now I am finding out that the Galaxy S III is coming out May/June and so I wait. I know this sounds retarded but I really think I can wait for the Amazing Galaxy S III because I believe in my heart that is a phone you can buy for longer than 5 minutes and not feel like crap right afterwards.
I am really going to miss the amazing applications to root the Nexus but do you think the Galaxy S III will have easy applications as well. [The Sprint model that is]
Also how is the voice quality between the two the Nexus and the S II/III? You can also chime in on the EVO if you want.
Main questions is seems like Sprint ‘s only major good phone atm is the Galaxy S II and they have had that for a while so don’t you think they will be in line for sure to get the Galaxy S III? Or do you think I should just get the Nexus or EVO and shut up?
I really want the Galaxy S III though on Sprint! I am getting on a family plan that will be cheaper!
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I'd be surprised if they didn't get it. They've had both the Galaxy S and the S2, the Galaxy and Evo series is what I personally think really drives Sprint sales. I'm sure the Galaxy S3 will be rooted before it's even officially released The exynos chipset is open source so development for it should be very nice, just as it has been for the S2. I haven't had the Evo, just the S2, so my comment may be one sided; but the quality on the phone is fine, I've never had an issue with how loud the speaker is when making a call, or clarity for that matter. But I think clarity has more to do with the carrier than the phone itself. But in all seriousness, just wait. I know it might be a while. There's probably going to be times when you look at your phone and just want to go in and upgrade, but it's better to wait than to have a nexus/evo for three months and then watch everyone else buy the S3. The satisfaction of waiting will pay off
Remains to be seen, but given the past it could be Fall of this year. Only say that because they were months apart before and we don't even have a release date, let alone an official unveiling.
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Yes I am definitely going to wait. I believe the phone is already out in the UK or will be in May. I think you can even order it on Amazon in another country. I am pretty confident that Sprint will carry the phone.
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Will the Galaxy S III have a removeable battery? If it does not would that be a problem when modding? You know when you need to pull out battery for a hard reset?
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Any Updates? Will Galaxy S III have the Quad Core Processor?
Hey im in the same boat except I have been able to upgrade for almost a year and a half. I have the old HTC Hero was going to get the SII but was broke by then and waited for the Galaxy Nexus. Now finally the SIII is coming out but I cant wait till october thats a long wait the only other phone id get is the Galaxy Nexus for the LTE. The Evo 4G LTE is a joke HTC has been sending out crappy phones lately I would suggest you wait for the SIII or LG Viper
So you think the Galaxy S III will not be out till October? I have been reading rumors for around June/July.
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Any Updates? Will Galaxy S III have the Quad Core Processor?
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"Already in production, the Exynos 4 Quad is scheduled to be adopted first into Samsung’s next Galaxy smartphone that will officially be announced in May,” - Samsung April 26th
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/04/samsung-exynos-chip-galaxy-s-iii/
The original Evo 4G, I had, and I have the Sprint S2 right now. In terms of development, the original Evo had the biggest, most development community ever. It was definitely the biggest of any CDMA phone, and it even rivaled a lot of GSM phone dev communities. For a while, when XDA announced which phones had the most active communities, the HTC Evo was #1 or #2.
HTC phones, at least before they had this "HTC Bootloader Unlock" garbage, had the most diverse ROMs with completely new features added. For example Myn, who's probably the most famous Evo/Evo 3D dev added notification bar toggles, from scratch. Something that was exclusive to Samsung phones. He didn't port them, he made them. He created a roaming menu in his ROMs. He ported ROMs from GSM HTC phones like the Desire HD and Desire Z to the Evo. It was awesome, seriously.
Samsung phones (or at least the CDMA ones) tend to pretty much have ROMs that are all the same at the core, but some have slightly different features/tweaks. I'm a little disappointed, coming from HTC phones (Evo, Evo 3D, even though the Evo 3D didn't live up to the hype), but the raw power of the S2 makes up for it. Some ROMs come ICS themed which is nice, but within Android itself is the potential to throw widgets/launchers/themes around so it's not really anything special.
Personally, for diversity in ROMs I say HTC phones, however, Samsung allows you to root your phone out of the box. If you hold volume down and power when turning on the phone, it gives you a warning and then takes you to the bootloader. There is no bootloader lock, which I love. For raw power, I say Samsung for sure. Also, HTC phones feel more sold, Samsung phones are usually very plasticky but durable and really fast.
Sorry, I know my comment is all over the place. I'm typing this at 2:34 AM.
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Personally, for diversity in ROMs I say HTC phones
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That was true for a while, however now that they lock the bootloaders pretty tight, and use closed source hardware, they are pretty much just limited to small variations of stock roms.
Take for example the Evo 3D community, it sucks for the most part.
Rakeesh_j said:
That was true for a while, however now that they lock the bootloaders pretty tight, and use closed source hardware, they are pretty much just limited to small variations of stock roms.
Take for example the Evo 3D community, it sucks for the most part.
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I'm aware. I had a 3D. It didn't suck in the beginning, when all phones came with 1.4 hboot (which I had before I sold mine), but eventually development plateaued and all ROMs were basically the same, save for some tweaks or theme differences. Like you said though, HTC really messed up with the bootloader thing.
So is the Samsung Galaxy S's still have open source bootloaders? Or are any of them locked? Will I be probably safe with the Sprint Galaxy S III?
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So is the Samsung Galaxy S's still have open source bootloaders? Or are any of them locked? Will I be probably safe with the Sprint Galaxy S III?
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The Galaxy S was never locked down, but Samsung never openly said, "here, hack our phones". The SII (including US variants), when you boot them up while holding volume up, you get this screen:
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After that, you get a screen that just lists the hardware variant and tells you if you're on official firmware or not. It also keeps track of the number of times you flash the device from the computer using a program called ODIN, which is used for flashing kernels, ROMs, and bootloaders (when your device is stock or if it's soft-bricked). After you flash, say, ClockworkMod Recovery, you can flash from there and it won't up the counter. You can also buy a little USB jig from Amazon or eBay that wipes the counter.
All in all, Samsung has been very open; they sent the CyanogenMod team a bunch of Galaxy S IIs when it first came out so they could port over CM7. It'll still void your warranty obviously, but it's not something they look down on, like HTC nowadays (which is a damn shame because HTC was great with developers). It doesn't look like the GSIII will be locked down either.
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The Galaxy S was never locked down, but Samsung never openly said, "here, hack our phones".
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Samsung actually said that they won't lock their bootloaders unless google asked them to. Something tells me google won't be doing that anytime soon.
So what do you guys think? The Galaxy S III the best choice for me for my next cell phone? With Sprint that is. I shouldn't have to wait to long huh?
I do not want to go with the HTC Evo 4G LTE because of the root problems, the LG Viper I am sure is garbage, Galaxy S II is no comparison to the Galaxy S III, and the Nexus is coming up on a year old phone [Even though I love the support root apps they have]. I believe it should be an easy decision.
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When will Sprint get the S III?
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Just noticed this on the HTC UK website:
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How is this an S3 chip?
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EDIT: or do you mean the Snapdragon S4?
Or do you mean Snapdragon S4?
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Well i noticed on another thread that the S4 was in short supply, So thats the reason for the overclocked S3 chip in the indian version of the One S.
Maybe the OP is thinking about this ?
Who cares ? I got mine and mines an S4 chip lol
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How is this an S3 chip?
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Or do you mean Snapdragon S4?
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Well the Taiwan model is being launched with 1.7 GHz but it's Snapdragon S3 as opposed to 1.5 GHz Snapdragon S4.
The UK site now says 1.5 - 1.7 GHz which makes me think they are going to start releasing old gen Snapdragon S3 internationally now.
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Well i noticed on another thread that the S4 was in short supply, So thats the reason for the overclocked S3 chip in the indian version of the One S.
Maybe the OP is thinking about this ?
Who cares ? I got mine and mines an S4 chip lol
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Yes, I am only concerned because I don't want to swap my phone after it's chipped and get a Snapdragon S3 in return and still have no guarantee of non chipping. Might as well stick with the chipping S4.
Apparently HTC support says the S3 version will be released globally.
Hooray for the new One S: Handicapped Sibling Edition.
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Apparently HTC support says the S3 version will be released globally.
Hooray for the new One S: Handicapped Sibling Edition.
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haha !!
But on a serious note, this is ridiculous !! Just make some more, problem solved !
Or at least do a discount, cause its not as described
She also told me that she knows nothing about the so called redesigned version with beveled USB port, and it is likely to be a rumour/fake. Which is quite possible since those pics are nowhere except on one random forum.
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haha !!
But on a serious note, this is ridiculous !! Just make some more, problem solved !
Or at least do a discount, cause its not as described
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It's not under HTC's control, Qualcomm (well, technically TSMC) makes the chips.
That said, if these S3-powered phones get sold in places where the S4 version is already available it will be a huge mess and a really dumb move on HTC's part.
Old SoC is the new Crap Screen!
HTC is known to change the screens in their phones for stock problem (ie:the swap to SLCD from AMOLED in Nexus One) or cost reductions (ie: SLCD manufacture change for the MyTouch 4G) and it look like they apply this habit to the SoC now.
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Nick L said:
It's not under HTC's control, Qualcomm (well, technically TSMC) makes the chips.
That said, if these S3-powered phones get sold in places where the S4 version is already available it will be a huge mess and a really dumb move on HTC's part.
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According to the support again, I asked if there is any way to identify the difference, and supposedly the retail packaging will have a different model number on it to distinguish S3/S4.
Still, really stupid.
Considering that S4 is faster than their flagship quad core and even GS3, this might be happening for 2 reasons:
1. HTC wants to increase One X sale, and they do not want some other model to steal the thunder.
2. Samsung purchased all S4s for themselves, or bribed the company making them. Something similar happened in the past - they used the fact they owned the company making amoleds in Desire vs Galaxy battle. So stopped shipping them and turned the tables in favor of their Galaxy S. That's how I got my SGS, they had no Desires in stock.
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But surely it shouldnt matter to HTC which devices sells more ? Its still revenue, They are hardly competing against themselves lol
But you could be on to something with the samsung thing, Ive seen things get nasty between these giant phone companies.
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Well this sucks I was planing on getting this phone when it becomes available in my country and was excited for that but now after reading this I'm disappointed and probably go with something else unless s4 become available here. This is bad news from htc and will probably lose a lot of users with this move specially now when sgs3 is coming out.
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But surely it shouldnt matter to HTC which devices sells more ? Its still revenue, They are hardly competing against themselves lol
But you could be on to something with the samsung thing, Ive seen things get nasty between these giant phone companies.
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Where I live One X is at least €100 more expensive than S, and they have much more of Xs in stock.
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Tenacius D said:
Well this sucks I was planing on getting this phone when it becomes available in my country and was excited for that but now after reading this I'm disappointed and probably go with something else unless s4 become available here. This is bad news from htc and will probably lose a lot of users with this move specially now when sgs3 is coming out.
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It may lose users, but may not be a lot, think most of end users do not even know what is chip, CPU, gpu, etc, it makes no difference to them either s4 or s3 since they have no idea it was s4 then now s3. And, even if they know, HTC oc s3 to 1.7G, they will think 1.7 is awesome which, maybe is.
Not to say this is a right thing, HTC shouldn't do this change cos s4 was one of the selling point of one s, just like quad core on one x. However, it's all down to business which is to maximize revenue, so a understandable move but shame.
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Can somebody post a model number of their one s? I am getting the HOS next week and want an s4 possessor.
AndroidAlistair said:
Can somebody post a model number of their one s? I am getting the HOS next week and want an s4 possessor.
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Z520E
AndroidAlistair said:
Can somebody post a model number of their one s? I am getting the HOS next week and want an s4 possessor.
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Where would I check? My box is blank lol.
Accidentally found this page on wikipedia:
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_One_S
[it is chinese though, so you need some translation magic from Google ]
BTW, i picked out the important part:
處理器爭議
硬體方面，One S分為北亞區版與國際版兩種，雖然北亞區（台灣、香港）之處理器時脈提升為 1,7GHz，但無論架構或製程相對於國際版的 Snapdragon S4 MSM8260A、1.5GHz 四核心處理器，台灣搭載的Snapdragon S3 MSM8260、 1.7GHz 雙核心處理器相對弱勢，撇開效能的落差不說，沿用Sensation處理器再加以超頻使用所帶來的耗電量與機身發熱問題，卻用在比Sensation更加纖薄的機構設計上，此舉亦可能會影響One S的螢幕、機板與電池壽命。
有一說法是，因台積電28奈米產能嚴重不足，連帶影響AMD、Nvidia、Qualcomm等國際知名客戶，因Snapdragon S4供貨不如預期，也因此造成One S、One XL等機種一再延遲推出，基於市場考量才將部份地區使用之處理器改為Snapdragon S3
第二種說法是，由於高通與宏達電的長期緊密合作關係，所以優先提供了一顆「改良版」S3 MSM8260 1.7G給宏達電彌補因S4缺貨所造成的損失，並彼此簽訂保密協定，這一顆S3就被優先使用在ONE S北亞區版上;這一顆改良後的MSN8260 除了效能因架構關係，追不上MSN8260A外，不論是在耗電控制或是廢熱控制上，都因為製程的改良關係已逼近MSN8260A，而這也是宏達電願意一試的關鍵。
I translated it here:
[I'm not a good translator though, so please kindly tell me if i made any mistake]
Processor Controversy
Hardware wise, there are 2 variants of HTC One S(Euro and Asia-Pacific Version). Although Asia-Pacific version has a relatively higher clock rate of 1.7GHz, however due to the older architecture and structure, the 1.7GHz Snapdragon S3 MSM8260 is still inferior to the 1.5GHz Snapdragon S4 MSM8260A. Apart from the weaker performance, with the overclocked processor from Sensation being packed inside such a thin body, the heat generated and power consumption of the CPU might just damage its screen, PCB or even the battery.
One of the explanation that HTC shifts from S4 to S3 is, due to the huge demand from AMD, Nvdia, Qualcomm, TSMC faces some really serious shortage of 28nm chips and because of it the launching of HTC One S, One XL and other S4 based device also have been delayed. Therefore, HTC changed the CPU of One S to S3 Snapdragon based on region.
The other rumored explanation is Qualcomm provided an improved version of MSM8260 to cover the loss of HTC due to the shortage of S4 chips. Therefore, the improved version is featured on the Asia Pacific version of One S. The improved MSM8260 is rumored that it offers similar level of power and heat management with MSM8260A and the only difference is the weaker performance, as it is using the older 40nm based structure.
Benchmark result obtained from:
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=566&t=2780505&p=1
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And from the wikipedia, the international version has a model name of Z520e while Asia Pacific version has Z560e, which looks like it is a good indicator to differentiate between 1.5GHz S4 and 1.7GHz S3.
So what do you guys think now?
Thanks for the nice article! I think the S3 version is not just a Asia-Pacific model. On HTC uk and de the specs have changed to "1.5~1.7 Ghz". So maybe there are One S's in europe with a S3 on sale.
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Looks like the quadrant standard score dipped a lot for the s4 HTC one s. Prior to the update, it was getting approximately 5000s.
But the s4 chip is still buttery smooth. Love it.
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Thanks for the nice article! I think the S3 version is not just a Asia-Pacific model. On HTC uk and de the specs have changed to "1.5~1.7 Ghz". So maybe there are One S's in europe with a S3 on sale.
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Not only UK and DE
These are sites that have changed:
http://www.htc.com/africa/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/at/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/be-fr/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/be-nl/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/br/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/ch-de/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/ch-fr/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/ch-it/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/cz/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/de/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/dk/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/es/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/europe/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/fi/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/fr/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/gr/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/hu/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/ie/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/it/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/mea-fr/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/mideast/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/mx/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/nl/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/no/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/pl/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/pt/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/ro/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/rs/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/ru/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/se/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/tr/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/ua/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/uk/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
Would that mean new One S would need different section on XDA? So whatever number of S4s HTC sold till now - that's it? Then this forum will slowly die, as no new devs will be interested in it... This sucks, unless RUUs are completely compatible, so it would mean the roms would work on both. Any dev care to give us an opinion?
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Are These values written on the outside of the box?
I'm buying it when i travel to uae, and i dont want to discover it's the S3 when i return home.
mohamed.qadiqadi said:
Are These values written on the outside of the box?
I'm buying it when i travel to uae, and i dont want to discover it's the S3 when i return home.
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Not sure... but from the packaging on One X, seems like you can.
mohamed.qadiqadi said:
Are These values written on the outside of the box?
I'm buying it when i travel to uae, and i dont want to discover it's the S3 when i return home.
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According to lots of people, the s3 version has model number z560e while the s4 is z520e. (Or s560e, s520e, look at the number not the letters), and s3 is clocked at 1.7GHz, s4 is at 1.5.
Both of these info can be found on the box.
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I wanted to buy this phone and my friend is going to canada
S4 is still available there so should i get it from there. It would save money or i should get the s3 version from india but it would be a bit costly
I'm not getting it if it comes with the S3 chip in UAE, this is a total rip-off. I'll just go with the Sensation XE if there is no S4 chip. At least that phone is well made and a huge community exists for it.
I think this dev section would last longer because the other S3 chip would kill that device I think the HTC One S is a complete f*ck up by HTC. Don't get me wrong, I love my One S, but only ~10gb available and now not enough chips; the device itself just a flaw...
Any idea what the Z320e model is? It seems to be what's available, or at least what's listed here on Czech websites...
Closed Source Project said:
I think this dev section would last longer because the other S3 chip would kill that device I think the HTC One S is a complete f*ck up by HTC. Don't get me wrong, I love my One S, but only ~10gb available and now not enough chips; the device itself just a flaw...
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It's definitely a f*ck up wanted to buy this phone but after all of this I'm going with sgs 3.
HTC had exelent middle with HTC one s between HTC one x and HTC one v but now that is over, a phone that cud same even quad core phone with its performance.
Does anyone recieved one with S3 ??
I bought it yesterday, changed from HOX, because of its horrible quality standard. I really love this phone and why should HTC change the SoC. I think the only reason why they listed 1.5~1.7 GHz on there webpages is to clearify that two versions of this phone are avalible.
The HTC Ville for International Market and the HTC Ville C for the Asian Pasific Market.
Poor enough they changed the SoC in one area, but international...thats not possible.
Edit:
Here a small article from the verge
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/12/3079583/htc-one-s-s3-processor-asia-europe
Does anyone know what version of the Z320?
The CZ is only sold Z560 and Z320.
Thanks
I just received a One S with Z560e and "Dual core" on the box sleeve. It is a replacement HTC UK decided to send me after the repair process on my (S4) One S went wrong. Currently in communication with HTC for more information if they have sent me an S3 version.
I have a feeling though that HTC have made this change in a way that distributors might not easily tell apart, as the EAN barcode has stayed the same.
I can buy and S3 version only if RUUs are compatible. There is no one on the forum telling that RUUs are compatible. I live in India and there is no way of getting the S4 version.
my s3 become very hot when it is charging.
From this post on the Q&A forum there is a bit more information on identifying the S3/S4 variants.
The article he linked to has an apparent comment from HTC (link here) that says that in European markets where the S4 version has been sold before, both versions will be available for some time and then only the newer version (which I take to mean the S3 version).
So it looks like in the longer term the One S in Europe is intended to be based on the S3.
Just looking for some insight on phones coming out. I love my nexus s 4g. The gs3 sounds good.
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From all the phones I've used, I liked the Galaxy Nexus most (although I do prefer the Nexus S for being able to use UMS transfer mode, having higher sound quality and not having an oversized screen).
Selling my Nexus and buying the S3 was one of the decision I regretted due to:
-not getting fast updates and variates of stock roms like the Nexus
-poor built quality, even comparing to the Galaxy Nexus
-the stock Jelly Bean on the Nexus was a better and smoother experience for me than Touchwiz on a quadcore processor.
Seems like you are on Sprint, I heard the CDMA version of Galaxy Nexus have very poor radio so skip that, not to mention they always get updates a few months later than the GSM version. But if you do plan to get another Samsung phone, such as a CMDA S3, ask in their forum first if they have any signal issues.
So maybe the S3 is your best choice if you don't mind the built quality. The renamed HTC One X for Sprint may be a good choice, but honestly I am used to how open and easy it is to root and unlock Samsung phones, I can't deal with HTC and Sense, but I know I'm biased.
Rumor is Google will announce the new LG Nexus the end of October, but I guess its too late by then and the CDMA version if available would probably be till next year anyway. The LG Optimus G is supposed to have excellent built quality. Sprint will be selling it, it's basically a flagship device, the the Qualcomm S4 Pro chip is supposed to be super fast, they'll be a 13MP camera (for Sprint model, AT&T is 8MP), 32gb of storage, 2GB ram, etc. It seems like people like to slate the LG brand, but on paper it looks like a very compelling device.
Or maybe its time to move to GSM network where there are more choices to choose from. I'm looking to move away from Samsung too since their built quality of recent phones has really turn me off. I wouldn't blame you if you get an iPhone5 and resell it to get an Android phone and some profit in the process.
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Or maybe its time to move to GSM network where there are more choices to choose from.
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This. my next phone will be on a gsm network and will not be purchased from a carrier. I'm tired of my phone being held prisoner. And the part about the CDMA updates is true. Sprint got both ICS and JB several months after t-mo. If you want early updates, this is the carrier to have a subsidized. They get push notifications as soon as google pushes the source to AOSP. Personally I'd still rather buy it from google directly, but there's nothing wrong with a t-mo subsidized device either. The updates will come at the same time.
You can check the review for the LG Optimus G by mobiletechreview on youtube. But it seems the Sprint version won't be available until nov 11th, but preorder open at nov 1st. The ATT version seems better though due to having microsd slot and from experience ATT have faster network and faster LTE too. The Sprint version has 13mp camera though.
If you are used to the Nexus S substantial dev support (after all these freakin' years!) then the only natural path is really the Galaxy Nexus. Even the support for the SII has slowed down. I suspect it will be the same with the S3. I cannot stand mfg overlays like TW or Sense.
Can you hold onto your NS and wait to see what the new Nexus is all about?
I'm waiting for the next Nexus phone -since it should be right around the corner. If it wasn't for that though, I'd be looking at the GSIII, Razr Maxx, or G Nex.
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im waiting for LG Nexus 4
LG Nexus 4 is coming 29 oct wait for it , 12 mp camera , 3100 m battery same sg3 display size ,but display is made by lg that made iphone 5 display http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCTx4n2UquI
Xiaomi mi-2 has better hardware than the s3! But you'll have to check if you can get it in the us and if its released at all! xD
I just read about it, dont know to much! Just wanted to help to expand the horizon!
Thanks for your input. But I'll just get the iPhone 5.....
Hahaha kidding
Thinking the lg nexus is sounding good.
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Wait for the LGnex...
Nexus S (GSM i9020a)
Paranoid Android (2.2.2 - 4.1.2)
Marmite Kernel (5.0 - Bedalus)
Ondemmand (Screen On) (800/100)
Ondemmand (Screen Off) (400/100)
Deep Idle (N/A - CFQ)
BLX (98 - Inverted Apps)
Black Exodus (Stock Voltage)
No doubt that nexus family will continue a tradition with a excelent quality new device.
However my biggest disappointment of nowadays phone development companies is a price of our beloved engineering jewels. Any thoughts. How mutch it will cost? I'm a big enthusiast of high end smartphones but personally not ready to sacrifice my halfmonth salary.
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I'd assume 199 with a upgrade
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Huawei Ascend D Quad XL looks interesting .. similar to stock android, with a few cool addons. 3D home looks smooth too. Not sure how quick their support will be in terms of ota upgrades. If they can guarantee that, I'm sold..
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it have wireless charging capabilities wow
2 colours
4.7 screen might be too big
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Seemed more like a question to me, so moved to Q&A.
Lg makes great phones. Loved lg! Hate Samsung though. I'm going for either the photon Q(its a monster) or this new nexus. I juuust got my nexus from a friend.... had a Samsung transform. Horrible hardware, phone was verry verrry durable though. Masks sure you test it out before and make sure it doesn't randomly brick like most of today's hardware
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das_webos_transformer said:
Lg makes great phones. Loved lg! Hate Samsung though. I'm going for either the photon Q(its a monster) or this new nexus. I juuust got my nexus from a friend.... had a Samsung transform. Horrible hardware, phone was verry verrry durable though. Masks sure you test it out before and make sure it doesn't randomly brick like most of today's hardware
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You should use more high end Samsung devices beside writing them off, the transform is a very old and low end phone on cdma network. Trying to compare it to the Photon Q is like comparing a Ford Tempo to a Ferrari.
I got it when it was new, actually decent. Ask anyone and they will tell you that the s3 is plasticity. The s2 had a tendency to randomly brick because of the emmc freaking out, that's just to name a few. I wouldn't mind an s3, just saying the quality of Samsung has gone away. And if at all possible I'm going to avoid them, bad, no, horrible track record.
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sorry for stealing the scene... i'm going to change my Nexus S in the next few weeks and i narrowed down the list of my wishes to the following 3 phones:
- Gnexus: would have to buy it used around the 300$ mark / will combine with a 2 years contract around 30$+
- Gnote: would buy it for 50$ on 2 years contract (30$)
- HTC One X: would get it for free on 2 years contract (30$)
What would you suggest me? i'm a Flash Addict fallen in love with paranoidandroid and JB and ATM my heart points toward the Gnote
Hi guys, today I saw this special version of our beloved HTC One S, named "Special Edition"
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HTC Taiwan One S - SE page : http://www.htc.com/tw/smartphones/htc-one-s-se/#overview
Snapdragon S4 processor
New color : White
Extended internal storage : 64 GB (still no SD card slot)
Ships with Android 4.1 Jelly Bean and Sense 4+
Only for Taiwan, HTC UK says there is no plan for Europe :'(
If anyone find where to buy this amazing device, please tell us here !
HTC really wants a punch in his face. Why they keep doing Updates to already released phones?
the machine is magnificent. I would have bought without thinking!
if that phone will come out early we can port the jb rom from it to our one s.
No offence but it looks **** in white like that it's 64gb tho
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No offence but it looks **** in white like that it's 64gb tho
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Agree on the white.
But......after all the low storage etc threads, argued In by yours truly, that HTC should release 32 and 64 gb options......HTC listened
Thanks HTC, now just announce the JB update for the One V (my soon to be secondary phone!)and you will continue to keep me as a customer / fanboy for life!
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Wow...-_- T-MOUS should've released a white variant. Would prefer it over my grey.
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Wow...-_- T-MOUS should've released a white variant. Would prefer it over my grey.
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Agreed.
HTC was smart by making the end caps tinted already. Bet those things get nasty after some use. I usually prefer white but I'm way more jealous of the storage space than the color in this case.
It's just not fair ;(
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I think HTC's strategy will continue to fail them. It's essentially the same phone they released months ago just it has more storage. This is what the One S should've been when it came out, BUT it also should've had NFC to future proof the device.
Hopefully the memory IC is compatible with our phones so we can just resolder them
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It's not surprising to see HTC made this move to release a variation of one s with different colour and more storage space. And I don't think it's unfair to the "old" one s owner either.
Just like Samsung released S3 alpha in Japan which has better specs than the international S3, companies will never make perfect phone, at least release a perfect one at one time.
The very next day after a device is made available to public, it's already become "yeaterday's" gadget apparently and literally. Moreover we all believed one s was a near perfect masterpiece when we bought it and did not bother too much about the 16gig storage, so why should we complain it now 6 months down the road. And we all know, in 3 years time, or less, one s may only be grandpa's play tool...
Regarding the release of one s se in other countries, I guess it will be available in the future if HTC still wants to keep the one s line. Since I know some big Telecom company like orange uk has marked one s EOL, end of line/life. Or HTC is preparing something big to come in Christmas time.
I do think it would have been nice to have at least 32gig option when one s was released, however that was not the case...
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They could just design it with a microSD slot, it's that simple.
I knew that when I got the phone but didn't think it would bother me so much.
Roming it would be much easier... It's like they took the two bad things from the iPhone... Can't understand that.
Still I love the One S!
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h.han said:
It's not surprising to see HTC made this move to release a variation of one s with different colour and more storage space. And I don't think it's unfair to the "old" one s owner either.
Just like Samsung released S3 alpha in Japan which has better specs than the international S3, companies will never make perfect phone, at least release a perfect one at one time.
The very next day after a device is made available to public, it's already become "yeaterday's" gadget apparently and literally. Moreover we all believed one s was a near perfect masterpiece when we bought it and did not bother too much about the 16gig storage, so why should we complain it now 6 months down the road. And we all know, in 3 years time, or less, one s may only be grandpa's play tool...
Regarding the release of one s se in other countries, I guess it will be available in the future if HTC still wants to keep the one s line. Since I know some big Telecom company like orange uk has marked one s EOL, end of line/life. Or HTC is preparing something big to come in Christmas time.
I do think it would have been nice to have at least 32gig option when one s was released, however that was not the case...
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I disagree. Even after the One S came out, it's specs didn't become obsolete. The galaxy s3 was released shortly after and even that is on par with the one S based on benchmarks. And as the way things are, a lot of phones are being released with almost similar specs, with the exception of cpu speeds (architecture may be more optimized but say, exynos and snapdragon 4 are very much on par) and ram, phones aren't being differentiated. Not unless the new batch of architecture cpu are released and even then, manufacturer still have to create a phone around it. So while yes, this Taiwan version only phone has more memory, it doesn't mean any one s, one x, are going to be a grandpa toy only time soon. I can see the iPhone 5 being obsolete the moment it came out and being a grandparent toy only (Samsung commercial hit it dead on) but the one s will still be a contender. In fact, the only phones that become obsolete the day after released, are budget phones. Aka, one v and people still complain they aren't getting updates.
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Hello,
We contacted HTC France which we confirm that this model was reserved for the Taiwan market.
http://www.androidgen.fr/htc-one-annonce-version-special-edition-actualite-4292.html
Speaking of unique HOS devices, check out this one:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-s/214004-my-one-s-dilemma.html
tmobile HTC One S.. and it definitely looks good.
good effort by htc but they really could save more complaints/headaches from current HOS owners by adding the following features:
bigger battery
pentaband frequency
shipped with jellybean 4.1
if priced right i'd buy it and sell my current TMOUS HOS.
How much it cost?
Yes, it's really a nice device.
You can buy it from Taiwan shopping website.
global.pchome.com.tw/DGBM4Z-A69814978
The price is US$ 622.92
Shipping rates
America, Canada : US$10
Europe and others : US$20
FYI.