Accidentally found this page on wikipedia:
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_One_S
[it is chinese though, so you need some translation magic from Google ]
BTW, i picked out the important part:
處理器爭議
硬體方面，One S分為北亞區版與國際版兩種，雖然北亞區（台灣、香港）之處理器時脈提升為 1,7GHz，但無論架構或製程相對於國際版的 Snapdragon S4 MSM8260A、1.5GHz 四核心處理器，台灣搭載的Snapdragon S3 MSM8260、 1.7GHz 雙核心處理器相對弱勢，撇開效能的落差不說，沿用Sensation處理器再加以超頻使用所帶來的耗電量與機身發熱問題，卻用在比Sensation更加纖薄的機構設計上，此舉亦可能會影響One S的螢幕、機板與電池壽命。
有一說法是，因台積電28奈米產能嚴重不足，連帶影響AMD、Nvidia、Qualcomm等國際知名客戶，因Snapdragon S4供貨不如預期，也因此造成One S、One XL等機種一再延遲推出，基於市場考量才將部份地區使用之處理器改為Snapdragon S3
第二種說法是，由於高通與宏達電的長期緊密合作關係，所以優先提供了一顆「改良版」S3 MSM8260 1.7G給宏達電彌補因S4缺貨所造成的損失，並彼此簽訂保密協定，這一顆S3就被優先使用在ONE S北亞區版上;這一顆改良後的MSN8260 除了效能因架構關係，追不上MSN8260A外，不論是在耗電控制或是廢熱控制上，都因為製程的改良關係已逼近MSN8260A，而這也是宏達電願意一試的關鍵。
I translated it here:
[I'm not a good translator though, so please kindly tell me if i made any mistake]
Processor Controversy
Hardware wise, there are 2 variants of HTC One S(Euro and Asia-Pacific Version). Although Asia-Pacific version has a relatively higher clock rate of 1.7GHz, however due to the older architecture and structure, the 1.7GHz Snapdragon S3 MSM8260 is still inferior to the 1.5GHz Snapdragon S4 MSM8260A. Apart from the weaker performance, with the overclocked processor from Sensation being packed inside such a thin body, the heat generated and power consumption of the CPU might just damage its screen, PCB or even the battery.
One of the explanation that HTC shifts from S4 to S3 is, due to the huge demand from AMD, Nvdia, Qualcomm, TSMC faces some really serious shortage of 28nm chips and because of it the launching of HTC One S, One XL and other S4 based device also have been delayed. Therefore, HTC changed the CPU of One S to S3 Snapdragon based on region.
The other rumored explanation is Qualcomm provided an improved version of MSM8260 to cover the loss of HTC due to the shortage of S4 chips. Therefore, the improved version is featured on the Asia Pacific version of One S. The improved MSM8260 is rumored that it offers similar level of power and heat management with MSM8260A and the only difference is the weaker performance, as it is using the older 40nm based structure.
Benchmark result obtained from:
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=566&t=2780505&p=1
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And from the wikipedia, the international version has a model name of Z520e while Asia Pacific version has Z560e, which looks like it is a good indicator to differentiate between 1.5GHz S4 and 1.7GHz S3.
So what do you guys think now?
Thanks for the nice article! I think the S3 version is not just a Asia-Pacific model. On HTC uk and de the specs have changed to "1.5~1.7 Ghz". So maybe there are One S's in europe with a S3 on sale.
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Looks like the quadrant standard score dipped a lot for the s4 HTC one s. Prior to the update, it was getting approximately 5000s.
But the s4 chip is still buttery smooth. Love it.
stunner2002 said:
Thanks for the nice article! I think the S3 version is not just a Asia-Pacific model. On HTC uk and de the specs have changed to "1.5~1.7 Ghz". So maybe there are One S's in europe with a S3 on sale.
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Not only UK and DE
These are sites that have changed:
http://www.htc.com/africa/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/at/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/be-fr/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/be-nl/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/br/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/ch-de/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/ch-fr/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/ch-it/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/cz/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/de/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/dk/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/es/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/europe/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/fi/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/fr/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/gr/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/hu/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/ie/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/it/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/mea-fr/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/mideast/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/mx/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/nl/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/no/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/pl/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/pt/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/ro/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/rs/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/ru/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/se/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/tr/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/ua/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/uk/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
Would that mean new One S would need different section on XDA? So whatever number of S4s HTC sold till now - that's it? Then this forum will slowly die, as no new devs will be interested in it... This sucks, unless RUUs are completely compatible, so it would mean the roms would work on both. Any dev care to give us an opinion?
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Are These values written on the outside of the box?
I'm buying it when i travel to uae, and i dont want to discover it's the S3 when i return home.
mohamed.qadiqadi said:
Are These values written on the outside of the box?
I'm buying it when i travel to uae, and i dont want to discover it's the S3 when i return home.
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Not sure... but from the packaging on One X, seems like you can.
mohamed.qadiqadi said:
Are These values written on the outside of the box?
I'm buying it when i travel to uae, and i dont want to discover it's the S3 when i return home.
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According to lots of people, the s3 version has model number z560e while the s4 is z520e. (Or s560e, s520e, look at the number not the letters), and s3 is clocked at 1.7GHz, s4 is at 1.5.
Both of these info can be found on the box.
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I wanted to buy this phone and my friend is going to canada
S4 is still available there so should i get it from there. It would save money or i should get the s3 version from india but it would be a bit costly
I'm not getting it if it comes with the S3 chip in UAE, this is a total rip-off. I'll just go with the Sensation XE if there is no S4 chip. At least that phone is well made and a huge community exists for it.
I think this dev section would last longer because the other S3 chip would kill that device I think the HTC One S is a complete f*ck up by HTC. Don't get me wrong, I love my One S, but only ~10gb available and now not enough chips; the device itself just a flaw...
Any idea what the Z320e model is? It seems to be what's available, or at least what's listed here on Czech websites...
Closed Source Project said:
I think this dev section would last longer because the other S3 chip would kill that device I think the HTC One S is a complete f*ck up by HTC. Don't get me wrong, I love my One S, but only ~10gb available and now not enough chips; the device itself just a flaw...
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It's definitely a f*ck up wanted to buy this phone but after all of this I'm going with sgs 3.
HTC had exelent middle with HTC one s between HTC one x and HTC one v but now that is over, a phone that cud same even quad core phone with its performance.
Does anyone recieved one with S3 ??
I bought it yesterday, changed from HOX, because of its horrible quality standard. I really love this phone and why should HTC change the SoC. I think the only reason why they listed 1.5~1.7 GHz on there webpages is to clearify that two versions of this phone are avalible.
The HTC Ville for International Market and the HTC Ville C for the Asian Pasific Market.
Poor enough they changed the SoC in one area, but international...thats not possible.
Edit:
Here a small article from the verge
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/12/3079583/htc-one-s-s3-processor-asia-europe
Does anyone know what version of the Z320?
The CZ is only sold Z560 and Z320.
Thanks
I just received a One S with Z560e and "Dual core" on the box sleeve. It is a replacement HTC UK decided to send me after the repair process on my (S4) One S went wrong. Currently in communication with HTC for more information if they have sent me an S3 version.
I have a feeling though that HTC have made this change in a way that distributors might not easily tell apart, as the EAN barcode has stayed the same.
I can buy and S3 version only if RUUs are compatible. There is no one on the forum telling that RUUs are compatible. I live in India and there is no way of getting the S4 version.
my s3 become very hot when it is charging.
From this post on the Q&A forum there is a bit more information on identifying the S3/S4 variants.
The article he linked to has an apparent comment from HTC (link here) that says that in European markets where the S4 version has been sold before, both versions will be available for some time and then only the newer version (which I take to mean the S3 version).
So it looks like in the longer term the One S in Europe is intended to be based on the S3.
Related
The HTC Pyramid, a 4.3 inch device that will be powered by a 1.2GHz processor<not dualcore> has shown itself on the internet again. In addition to this, the device will have 768MB of RAM along with an 8MP rear and 1.3MP front facing camera on board. The rear of the device shows Google branding, but lacks the "with HTC Sense" that we are used to seeing on these devices, and the device is said to be running Android 3.0, Honeycomb. Now, we are unsure of the truth behind all these specs, but we sure do hope that HTC will confirm all of this for us next week at CTIA
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-pyramid-shows-online-some-early-renders
An overclocked desire hd plus a camera?
Kinda disappointment.
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a new google/nexus phone?
-no htc sense
-has google logo at the back
Seems weird google aparantly said honeycomb wil be strictly for tabs?
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Until HTC invents a larger battery it will not be able to offer dual-core.
Yes they will. Dual core phones use less power because they can turn off 1 core and use less power than any other phone with 1 single core. When the dual core does kick in it probably means the phone is on a 100% load or so, which means that any phone would use a lot of power. The difference is not as big as you would think.
There are rumors that this phone will have a dual core processor.
That article does not state that the pyramid is not dual core. It neither confirms nor denies the number of cores. There are other rumoured specs out there which suggest it will be a dual core snapdragon. Just google it.
Given the fact that competitors have released dual cores, htc will wish to follow suit. Not doing so will cost them market share.
If the other part of the article is true and it shall be another google nexus then that will be truly interesting. I wonder if they will also release a similar spec sense phone in the fashion of the nexus one and desire. If so it will be hard for me to look past the nexus pyramid. It will be dev heaven as google policy is to allow the user to easily unlock the bootloader. Plus if the hardware is largely identical, it will get sense ports.
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That article does not state that the pyramid is not dual core. It neither confirms nor denies the number of cores. There are other rumoured specs out there which suggest it will be a dual core snapdragon. Just google it.
Given the fact that competitors have released dual cores, htc will wish to follow suit. Not doing so will cost them market share.
If the other part of the article is true and it shall be another google nexus then that will be truly interesting. I wonder if they will also release a similar spec sense phone in the fashion of the nexus one and desire. If so it will be hard for me to look past the nexus pyramid. It will be dev heaven as google policy is to allow the user to easily unlock the bootloader. Plus if the hardware is largely identical, it will get sense ports.
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There is 1 sign that tells us it might be the new nexus, and that is the fact that it's stating Google on the back. But Another thing that nexus phones don't have, is a HTC logo on the front. So the only sign telling us it's a google phone on the back is being invalidated by the front of the phone.
I have a feeling this will be the Nexus Two (or whatever) with HTC branding on the front. The Nexus S is known everywhere as the Samsung Nexus S, so it could be a logical extension of the manufacturers branding.
It seems to make sense that the next Nexus phone would have a qHD screen, dual core CPU and be a 4.3" device, after all this is where lots of phones are going and the Nexus line is meant to offer some sort of reference design.
After the Nexus S, which I am now selling so I can keep my Desire HD, I would welcome a Nexus phone from HTC again.
As for the OS, I wouldn't be surprised if there was an Android Honeycomb for phones version (which could be a 3.x or 2.4 or something else) and this device launches that version. I cant help but remember that the HTC Passion name was rumoured for months before the Nexus One came out, this device may not be out for months yet....
On the other hand, this could be all be fake. Or the Desire HDS or something...
HTC Pyramid is dual-core. But it falls behind Atrix and LG 2x in graphic and performance tests.
Link to tests:
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...60-smartbench-2011-result-have-been-revealed/
Seems like the new Adreno 220 is weaker than Tegra
Can't make a judgement until it hits production. Mind you it could also be nvidia fermi all over again.
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If as I to rank GPU based on current availability:
1. PowerVR SGX543MP2
2. Tegra2 (Geforce ULV)
3. Mali400 (Samsung's)
4. Adreno 220
TeroZ said:
An overclocked desire hd plus a camera?
Kinda disappointment.
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Yep, it look very similar to the desire HD!
Don't trust these benchmarks.I'm telling you,they are complete bull****.Unless the Pyramid is running with one core,with crippled GPU drivers and Samsung's RFS filesystem!I mean,c'mon,htc won't let themselves lag that far behind.They aren't THAT much stupid!
mjehan said:
If as I to rank GPU based on current availability:
1. PowerVR SGX543MP2
2. Tegra2 (Geforce ULV)
3. Mali400 (Samsung's)
4. Adreno 220
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That new PowerVR SGX543MP2 is a BEAST!! Have you guys seen the benchmarks compared to the Tegra 2? It annihilates it.
As for the Pyramid. It does have a dual core. The recent benchmarks with the Adreno 220 are not accurate because release is still ways off and drivers are still maturing. Give it time. btw this phone looks absolutely stunning! Best looking device i've seen honestly.
edit: speaking of unreleased htc phones, have you guys seen the HTC Inspire? Sure it's Windows Mobile 7 but the design is also jaw dropping.
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edit: speaking of unreleased htc phones, have you guys seen the HTC Inspire? Sure it's Windows Mobile 7 but the design is also jaw dropping.
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I LOVE the design! Glad to see HTC are changing their designs a bit more... they were getting repetitive!
Hope the pyramid will look something a bit different too!
alexluckett said:
I LOVE the design! Glad to see HTC are changing their designs a bit more... they were getting repetitive!
Hope the pyramid will look something a bit different too!
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It does look awesome Giz had an article on it here
gizmodo.com/#!5782453/first-pics-appear-of-the-htc-pyramid-with-high+res-qhd-screen
(can't post a picture or a link since i don't have enough post -.-)
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I LOVE the design! Glad to see HTC are changing their designs a bit more... they were getting repetitive!
Hope the pyramid will look something a bit different too!
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Actually the Pyramid looks like a finely-awesomised version of the DHD.
Sent from here,boo-yeah!
I have serious confident to adreno220. If this phone is dual core and boasts a super lcd. I will definitely buy it.
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I was waiting to decide but now I've made up my mind on the One X, despite not having a changeable battery or external microsd, I'd rather have that instead of a cheap flimsy back case on the s3, or cheap plastic ugly squarish centre button
I was looking forward to the S3 until I saw it, it looks like ****, is it just me? curves are too deep around the edges, looks like that old webos phone the palm pre if I recall,
the s3 has some good specs close to the one x but the phone design and the ugly touchwizz ui lets it down, the icons look like they were built for an old nokia colour phone back in the days of 8310,
long live htc!
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/gsiii-benchmarks/
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look at this ugly dialler screen as an example, FOR GOD SAKE SAMSUNG!:
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couldn't agree more, already have my one x and the design seems so much more modern and sleek than the s3, i was willing to trade up to the s3 if it was good and because sammy's have always had a strong dev community here on xda, but i am disappointed by the s3, feel like they held back alot
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I was waiting to decide but now I've made up my mind on the One X, despite not having a changeable battery or external microsd, I'd rather have that instead of a cheap flimsy back case on the s3,
I was looking forward to the S3 until I saw it, it looks like ****, is it just me? curves are too deep around the edges, looks like that old webos phone the palm pre if I recall,
the s3 has some good specs close to the one x but the phone design and the ugly touchwizz ui lets it down, the icons look like they were built for an old nokia colour phone back in the days of 8310,
long live htc!
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Who gives a crap about touchwiz or sense for that matter...AOKP FTW on either phone.
you can say that again, no doubt the s voice will be ported over, thats the main feature and motion controls
the ui just sucks, ive never liked samsungs ui's
their tv's are good and thats as far as it goes for samsung with me, I held up on the One X cause of the S3, and it's seems like a waste of time,
I'm actually pissed off and it's bothering me,
I'd rather get a decent UI with the phone rather than wait for roms and rooting etc. you know what I mean?? and no It's not just the launcher I'm talking about, its the whole ui itself
I've got the sensation XE and been using Sense 4 on it and all I can say it is fantastic,
coffmad said:
couldn't agree more, already have my one x and the design seems so much more modern and sleek than the s3, i was willing to trade up to the s3 if it was good and because sammy's have always had a strong dev community here on xda, but i am disappointed by the s3, feel like they held back alot
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They did hold back a lot. But it was still enough to take back the speed crown...
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_unpacked_2012-review-756p3.php
Problem is that I'm not waiting for the fall/winter to get an LTE version with an S4. So I'm going to be getting the AT&T One X now.
I'm in the same boat.
I'm a serial ROM flasher on my orginal GS, and have been running CM9 for some time now. Legend of a phone but it's showing its age now.
Didn't get an SII because I wanted to wait for the SIII, did and am totally disappointed with it. Not interested with the heavy emphasis on software rather than design - it is horrifically ugly!
I'll be going to the Three store and picking a One X up tomorrow
I hope the dev community shows the One X lots of love... my initial thoughts are how great it would be to see a One X running CM9 with the Sense camera.... although I understand this is almost like asking the impossible
Flashing the One X seems like a lot more work than the GS/GSII. I hope they aren't easy to brick
S3 is designed with nature in mind, stones and leaves and water. ONE X is designed with the future and awesomeness in mind
according to this the one x (us version at+t) is superior as the htc one s is
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/gsiii-benchmarks/
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Should i start a thread saying "wanted to buy One X but going for SIII"? Anyway, for all the $%$% happening with OneX hardware/quality wise I would gladly jump from LG's O3D to SIII. Can't wait
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according to this the one x (us version at+t) is superior as the htc one s is
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/gsiii-benchmarks/
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Problem is that those benchmarks were written to test only single or dual core processors. There really isn't a good bench marker out yet to effectively measure quad core phones.
Why would Samsung or HTC put out quad core phones that under perform a dual core processor that they were only forced to use because the quad doesn't support LTE?
In that case, the One S is better than the Global One X, which we know they would not allow to happen as it would hurt sales of their flagship.
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Problem is that those benchmarks were written to test only single or dual core processors. There really isn't a good bench marker out yet to effectively measure quad core phones.
Why would Samsung or HTC put out quad core phones that under perform a dual core processor that they were only forced to use because the quad doesn't support LTE?
In that case, the One S is better than the Global One X, which we know they would not allow to happen as it would hurt sales of their flagship.
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You are correct I have noticed the One S's benchmarks, and that is annoying in itself!! lol let's just ignore the One S for now..
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Who gives a crap about touchwiz or sense for that matter...AOKP FTW on either phone.
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finally a man with good sense here roll on the AOKP roms please
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finally a man with good sense here roll on the AOKP roms please
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wonder how long it will take to get a decent rom on the s3, damn that thing is ugly (touch wizz)
& the AnTuTu scores are.....
I'm not a benchmarking fan as they don't tell the full story, but AnTuTu is true multi core testing & I've always found it to be the most reliable in the past - especially when checking different custom roms & kernels on past devices.
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F1reEng1neRed said:
Problem is that those benchmarks were written to test only single or dual core processors. There really isn't a good bench marker out yet to effectively measure quad core phones.
Why would Samsung or HTC put out quad core phones that under perform a dual core processor that they were only forced to use because the quad doesn't support LTE?
In that case, the One S is better than the Global One X, which we know they would not allow to happen as it would hurt sales of their flagship.
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You basically just said something (marked in bold) that has been on my mind, it wouldn't make sense for phone manufacturers to put out quad cores just to have them beat by dual cores. That's simply thinking logically
Hope we see increased quad core bench marks soon. Blah, who gives a damn. They are just digits, In the end, in real life usage the phones will only differ in what? milliseconds? I'm outta here!
Good day or should i say night all
AT preview:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview
I'm really happy with the H1X, I had the Galaxy S2 but the S3 hasn't leaped ahead of the pack too much, seems S3 Exynos may be better than Tegra, but not about the GPUs.
Great HTC win
F1reEng1neRed said:
They did hold back a lot. But it was still enough to take back the speed crown...
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_unpacked_2012-review-756p3.php
Problem is that I'm not waiting for the fall/winter to get an LTE version with an S4. So I'm going to be getting the AT&T One X now.
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Winter? They said summer, and most likely it'll be before the Olympics.
Just noticed this on the HTC UK website:
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How is this an S3 chip?
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EDIT: or do you mean the Snapdragon S4?
Or do you mean Snapdragon S4?
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Well i noticed on another thread that the S4 was in short supply, So thats the reason for the overclocked S3 chip in the indian version of the One S.
Maybe the OP is thinking about this ?
Who cares ? I got mine and mines an S4 chip lol
Whoosh13 said:
How is this an S3 chip?
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EDIT: or do you mean the Snapdragon S4?
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Or do you mean Snapdragon S4?
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Well the Taiwan model is being launched with 1.7 GHz but it's Snapdragon S3 as opposed to 1.5 GHz Snapdragon S4.
The UK site now says 1.5 - 1.7 GHz which makes me think they are going to start releasing old gen Snapdragon S3 internationally now.
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Well i noticed on another thread that the S4 was in short supply, So thats the reason for the overclocked S3 chip in the indian version of the One S.
Maybe the OP is thinking about this ?
Who cares ? I got mine and mines an S4 chip lol
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Yes, I am only concerned because I don't want to swap my phone after it's chipped and get a Snapdragon S3 in return and still have no guarantee of non chipping. Might as well stick with the chipping S4.
Apparently HTC support says the S3 version will be released globally.
Hooray for the new One S: Handicapped Sibling Edition.
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Apparently HTC support says the S3 version will be released globally.
Hooray for the new One S: Handicapped Sibling Edition.
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haha !!
But on a serious note, this is ridiculous !! Just make some more, problem solved !
Or at least do a discount, cause its not as described
She also told me that she knows nothing about the so called redesigned version with beveled USB port, and it is likely to be a rumour/fake. Which is quite possible since those pics are nowhere except on one random forum.
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haha !!
But on a serious note, this is ridiculous !! Just make some more, problem solved !
Or at least do a discount, cause its not as described
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It's not under HTC's control, Qualcomm (well, technically TSMC) makes the chips.
That said, if these S3-powered phones get sold in places where the S4 version is already available it will be a huge mess and a really dumb move on HTC's part.
Old SoC is the new Crap Screen!
HTC is known to change the screens in their phones for stock problem (ie:the swap to SLCD from AMOLED in Nexus One) or cost reductions (ie: SLCD manufacture change for the MyTouch 4G) and it look like they apply this habit to the SoC now.
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Nick L said:
It's not under HTC's control, Qualcomm (well, technically TSMC) makes the chips.
That said, if these S3-powered phones get sold in places where the S4 version is already available it will be a huge mess and a really dumb move on HTC's part.
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According to the support again, I asked if there is any way to identify the difference, and supposedly the retail packaging will have a different model number on it to distinguish S3/S4.
Still, really stupid.
Considering that S4 is faster than their flagship quad core and even GS3, this might be happening for 2 reasons:
1. HTC wants to increase One X sale, and they do not want some other model to steal the thunder.
2. Samsung purchased all S4s for themselves, or bribed the company making them. Something similar happened in the past - they used the fact they owned the company making amoleds in Desire vs Galaxy battle. So stopped shipping them and turned the tables in favor of their Galaxy S. That's how I got my SGS, they had no Desires in stock.
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But surely it shouldnt matter to HTC which devices sells more ? Its still revenue, They are hardly competing against themselves lol
But you could be on to something with the samsung thing, Ive seen things get nasty between these giant phone companies.
Apple sue Samsung, Samsung sue Apple, Everybody Sues Everybody...
Well this sucks I was planing on getting this phone when it becomes available in my country and was excited for that but now after reading this I'm disappointed and probably go with something else unless s4 become available here. This is bad news from htc and will probably lose a lot of users with this move specially now when sgs3 is coming out.
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But surely it shouldnt matter to HTC which devices sells more ? Its still revenue, They are hardly competing against themselves lol
But you could be on to something with the samsung thing, Ive seen things get nasty between these giant phone companies.
Apple sue Samsung, Samsung sue Apple, Everybody Sues Everybody...
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Where I live One X is at least €100 more expensive than S, and they have much more of Xs in stock.
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Tenacius D said:
Well this sucks I was planing on getting this phone when it becomes available in my country and was excited for that but now after reading this I'm disappointed and probably go with something else unless s4 become available here. This is bad news from htc and will probably lose a lot of users with this move specially now when sgs3 is coming out.
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It may lose users, but may not be a lot, think most of end users do not even know what is chip, CPU, gpu, etc, it makes no difference to them either s4 or s3 since they have no idea it was s4 then now s3. And, even if they know, HTC oc s3 to 1.7G, they will think 1.7 is awesome which, maybe is.
Not to say this is a right thing, HTC shouldn't do this change cos s4 was one of the selling point of one s, just like quad core on one x. However, it's all down to business which is to maximize revenue, so a understandable move but shame.
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Can somebody post a model number of their one s? I am getting the HOS next week and want an s4 possessor.
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Can somebody post a model number of their one s? I am getting the HOS next week and want an s4 possessor.
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AndroidAlistair said:
Can somebody post a model number of their one s? I am getting the HOS next week and want an s4 possessor.
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Where would I check? My box is blank lol.
source
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-one-x-quad-core-1-6-ghz-specs-leaked-on-twitter-20120907/
Just like previous reports and rumors this smartphone will indeed be running on NVIDIA’s Tegra 3 processor, only it will be the new Tegra 3+ instead. The CPU has been boosted to 1.6 GHz and a 1.7 GHz companion core NVIDIA calls 4-PLUS-1. The full details were revealed in this post on Twitter.
According to the leak, the HTC One X+ has dimensions of 134.36 x 69.9 x 9.3mm and weighs in at 129g. Then just like the original HTC One X the device has a 4.7-inch display, an 1,800 mAh battery, and 32GB of internal storage. The differences here are obviously the processor as well as a few other small changes.
He then goes on to mention Android 4.1 Jelly Bean and a new Sense UI 4.5 will be on board too. That will accompany the new Tegra 3+ quad-core processor that has been increased in speed, then we’ll still have 1GB of RAM. I’m hoping they’ve increased the battery life because in this day and age 1,800 mAh just isn’t enough — especially when Motorola’s new flagship is just as thin and comes with a 2,530 mAh battery. Previous rumors point this phone towards T-Mobile for an initial launch but I’m sure we’ll find out more come September 19th at the HTC event in NYC.
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http://androidcommunity.com/htc-one-x-quad-core-1-6-ghz-specs-leaked-on-twitter-20120907/
Just like previous reports and rumors this smartphone will indeed be running on NVIDIA’s Tegra 3 processor, only it will be the new Tegra 3+ instead. The CPU has been boosted to 1.6 GHz and a 1.7 GHz companion core NVIDIA calls 4-PLUS-1. The full details were revealed in this post on Twitter.
According to the leak, the HTC One X+ has dimensions of 134.36 x 69.9 x 9.3mm and weighs in at 129g. Then just like the original HTC One X the device has a 4.7-inch display, an 1,800 mAh battery, and 32GB of internal storage. The differences here are obviously the processor as well as a few other small changes.
He then goes on to mention Android 4.1 Jelly Bean and a new Sense UI 4.5 will be on board too. That will accompany the new Tegra 3+ quad-core processor that has been increased in speed, then we’ll still have 1GB of RAM. I’m hoping they’ve increased the battery life because in this day and age 1,800 mAh just isn’t enough — especially when Motorola’s new flagship is just as thin and comes with a 2,530 mAh battery. Previous rumors point this phone towards T-Mobile for an initial launch but I’m sure we’ll find out more come September 19th at the HTC event in NYC.
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Football tweeted that on twitter and they just mentioned it:
We follow him so we already know all this
Original Source: Football's tweet -
https://twitter.com/Football4PDA/status/244014812483424257
Part of me wishes I waited, but if I was always waiting for the better phone I'd end up with nothing.
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25%+ GPU for the new Tegra3+
vivek_bhoj said:
Football tweeted that on twitter and they just mentioned it:
We follow him so we already know all this
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We don't all follow Football's tweets smart arse!... Thanks you jacobcummings for your post
HTC
Y u no make update instead of new phone
vivek_bhoj said:
Football tweeted that on twitter and they just mentioned it:
We follow him so we already know all this
Original Source: Football's tweet -
https://twitter.com/Football4PDA/status/244014812483424257
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HTC
Y u no make update instead of new phone
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They are making an update and why not make a new phone? that's what HTC do
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They are making an update and why not make a new phone? that's what HTC do
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It's 0.4 GHz faster. Relly? I don't need this. Everything runs smoothly on two cores active.
JB and sense 4.5 - this should hopefully give some porting possibilities.... this is how the Desire got so many roms.
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JB and sense 4.5 - this should hopefully give some porting possibilities.... this is how the Desire got so many roms.
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HTC already committed to JB on the One S, One X, and One XL. It's not like the existing One X is going to orphaned. While they could turn their backs on early One-series purchasers the goodwill they'd burn in the process doesn't make that seem likely.
I'm confused about what is actually different. Is the processor actually different or is it just clocked a bit higher? What other minor things are actually different? I'm sick of manufacturers re-releasing phones with the same processor clocked a bit higher with other minor changes and passing them off as new phones. If T-Mob does get this, all it means is that T-Mob is finally getting a phone that's been out for several months already.
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1GB ram? That's not enough.
hei6185 said:
1GB ram? That's not enough.
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What would you need more than 1GB for? You gonna have 200 tabs open in Dolphin?
To htc please bring all features in one phone and you'll be back on track...most notable missing ones are here:
1. User replaceable battery
2. Memory expansion slot
3. Dual sim
4. Usb otg support
5. Unique htc apps(apple has siri,samsung has svoice.etc) though some are just fancy but believe me it helps a lot in ads
Please send this to htc rep so they would know.thanks
Loyal htc user before
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HTC one X is better then Samsung S3 and Lg Optimus 4 ! Got better performance and battery! But Samsung got 4.1.1 Jelly Beam!
Will it work on wind mobile network?
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Probably be my next device if tmob gets it!
I´m totally going for X+!
Build quality and great design is what makes HTC superior
Just my 2 cents
naaaaa even if this thing has a tegra 3 + it will still be **** htc have never done anything right, they always are one step behind Samsung! look at the s3 VS the htc one X the one x is no competition to the s3 even in the camera the galaxy s3 takes the upper hand slightly HTC makes phones that look good, feel good to hold, BUT when it comes to performance forget it the s3 blows the htc one x out of the water
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HTC one X is better then Samsung S3 and Lg Optimus 4 ! Got better performance and battery! But Samsung got 4.1.1 Jelly Beam!
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loooooooooool think that mate but its not true the one x kills the LG 4X hd but the s3 rapes the one X
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The Janitor Mop said:
I'm confused about what is actually different. Is the processor actually different or is it just clocked a bit higher? What other minor things are actually different? I'm sick of manufacturers re-releasing phones with the same processor clocked a bit higher with other minor changes and passing them off as new phones. If T-Mob does get this, all it means is that T-Mob is finally getting a phone that's been out for several months already.
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only manufacturer that does that is HTC samsung only made one s3 this year htc will make 10000000000 htc one XXXXXXXXXXXX+ this year
It sounds and looks exactly the same as the HTC One. Why not just OC to 1.6 and call it a new phone and sell it for more?
Great idea HTC!
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Hi guys, today I saw this special version of our beloved HTC One S, named "Special Edition"
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HTC Taiwan One S - SE page : http://www.htc.com/tw/smartphones/htc-one-s-se/#overview
Snapdragon S4 processor
New color : White
Extended internal storage : 64 GB (still no SD card slot)
Ships with Android 4.1 Jelly Bean and Sense 4+
Only for Taiwan, HTC UK says there is no plan for Europe :'(
If anyone find where to buy this amazing device, please tell us here !
HTC really wants a punch in his face. Why they keep doing Updates to already released phones?
the machine is magnificent. I would have bought without thinking!
if that phone will come out early we can port the jb rom from it to our one s.
No offence but it looks **** in white like that it's 64gb tho
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k1llacanon said:
No offence but it looks **** in white like that it's 64gb tho
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Agree on the white.
But......after all the low storage etc threads, argued In by yours truly, that HTC should release 32 and 64 gb options......HTC listened
Thanks HTC, now just announce the JB update for the One V (my soon to be secondary phone!)and you will continue to keep me as a customer / fanboy for life!
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Wow...-_- T-MOUS should've released a white variant. Would prefer it over my grey.
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Wow...-_- T-MOUS should've released a white variant. Would prefer it over my grey.
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Agreed.
HTC was smart by making the end caps tinted already. Bet those things get nasty after some use. I usually prefer white but I'm way more jealous of the storage space than the color in this case.
It's just not fair ;(
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I think HTC's strategy will continue to fail them. It's essentially the same phone they released months ago just it has more storage. This is what the One S should've been when it came out, BUT it also should've had NFC to future proof the device.
Hopefully the memory IC is compatible with our phones so we can just resolder them
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It's not surprising to see HTC made this move to release a variation of one s with different colour and more storage space. And I don't think it's unfair to the "old" one s owner either.
Just like Samsung released S3 alpha in Japan which has better specs than the international S3, companies will never make perfect phone, at least release a perfect one at one time.
The very next day after a device is made available to public, it's already become "yeaterday's" gadget apparently and literally. Moreover we all believed one s was a near perfect masterpiece when we bought it and did not bother too much about the 16gig storage, so why should we complain it now 6 months down the road. And we all know, in 3 years time, or less, one s may only be grandpa's play tool...
Regarding the release of one s se in other countries, I guess it will be available in the future if HTC still wants to keep the one s line. Since I know some big Telecom company like orange uk has marked one s EOL, end of line/life. Or HTC is preparing something big to come in Christmas time.
I do think it would have been nice to have at least 32gig option when one s was released, however that was not the case...
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They could just design it with a microSD slot, it's that simple.
I knew that when I got the phone but didn't think it would bother me so much.
Roming it would be much easier... It's like they took the two bad things from the iPhone... Can't understand that.
Still I love the One S!
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h.han said:
It's not surprising to see HTC made this move to release a variation of one s with different colour and more storage space. And I don't think it's unfair to the "old" one s owner either.
Just like Samsung released S3 alpha in Japan which has better specs than the international S3, companies will never make perfect phone, at least release a perfect one at one time.
The very next day after a device is made available to public, it's already become "yeaterday's" gadget apparently and literally. Moreover we all believed one s was a near perfect masterpiece when we bought it and did not bother too much about the 16gig storage, so why should we complain it now 6 months down the road. And we all know, in 3 years time, or less, one s may only be grandpa's play tool...
Regarding the release of one s se in other countries, I guess it will be available in the future if HTC still wants to keep the one s line. Since I know some big Telecom company like orange uk has marked one s EOL, end of line/life. Or HTC is preparing something big to come in Christmas time.
I do think it would have been nice to have at least 32gig option when one s was released, however that was not the case...
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I disagree. Even after the One S came out, it's specs didn't become obsolete. The galaxy s3 was released shortly after and even that is on par with the one S based on benchmarks. And as the way things are, a lot of phones are being released with almost similar specs, with the exception of cpu speeds (architecture may be more optimized but say, exynos and snapdragon 4 are very much on par) and ram, phones aren't being differentiated. Not unless the new batch of architecture cpu are released and even then, manufacturer still have to create a phone around it. So while yes, this Taiwan version only phone has more memory, it doesn't mean any one s, one x, are going to be a grandpa toy only time soon. I can see the iPhone 5 being obsolete the moment it came out and being a grandparent toy only (Samsung commercial hit it dead on) but the one s will still be a contender. In fact, the only phones that become obsolete the day after released, are budget phones. Aka, one v and people still complain they aren't getting updates.
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Hello,
We contacted HTC France which we confirm that this model was reserved for the Taiwan market.
http://www.androidgen.fr/htc-one-annonce-version-special-edition-actualite-4292.html
Speaking of unique HOS devices, check out this one:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-s/214004-my-one-s-dilemma.html
tmobile HTC One S.. and it definitely looks good.
good effort by htc but they really could save more complaints/headaches from current HOS owners by adding the following features:
bigger battery
pentaband frequency
shipped with jellybean 4.1
if priced right i'd buy it and sell my current TMOUS HOS.
How much it cost?
Yes, it's really a nice device.
You can buy it from Taiwan shopping website.
global.pchome.com.tw/DGBM4Z-A69814978
The price is US$ 622.92
Shipping rates
America, Canada : US$10
Europe and others : US$20
FYI.