The HTC Pyramid, a 4.3 inch device that will be powered by a 1.2GHz processor<not dualcore> has shown itself on the internet again. In addition to this, the device will have 768MB of RAM along with an 8MP rear and 1.3MP front facing camera on board. The rear of the device shows Google branding, but lacks the "with HTC Sense" that we are used to seeing on these devices, and the device is said to be running Android 3.0, Honeycomb. Now, we are unsure of the truth behind all these specs, but we sure do hope that HTC will confirm all of this for us next week at CTIA
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-pyramid-shows-online-some-early-renders
An overclocked desire hd plus a camera?
Kinda disappointment.
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a new google/nexus phone?
-no htc sense
-has google logo at the back
Seems weird google aparantly said honeycomb wil be strictly for tabs?
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Until HTC invents a larger battery it will not be able to offer dual-core.
Yes they will. Dual core phones use less power because they can turn off 1 core and use less power than any other phone with 1 single core. When the dual core does kick in it probably means the phone is on a 100% load or so, which means that any phone would use a lot of power. The difference is not as big as you would think.
There are rumors that this phone will have a dual core processor.
That article does not state that the pyramid is not dual core. It neither confirms nor denies the number of cores. There are other rumoured specs out there which suggest it will be a dual core snapdragon. Just google it.
Given the fact that competitors have released dual cores, htc will wish to follow suit. Not doing so will cost them market share.
If the other part of the article is true and it shall be another google nexus then that will be truly interesting. I wonder if they will also release a similar spec sense phone in the fashion of the nexus one and desire. If so it will be hard for me to look past the nexus pyramid. It will be dev heaven as google policy is to allow the user to easily unlock the bootloader. Plus if the hardware is largely identical, it will get sense ports.
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That article does not state that the pyramid is not dual core. It neither confirms nor denies the number of cores. There are other rumoured specs out there which suggest it will be a dual core snapdragon. Just google it.
Given the fact that competitors have released dual cores, htc will wish to follow suit. Not doing so will cost them market share.
If the other part of the article is true and it shall be another google nexus then that will be truly interesting. I wonder if they will also release a similar spec sense phone in the fashion of the nexus one and desire. If so it will be hard for me to look past the nexus pyramid. It will be dev heaven as google policy is to allow the user to easily unlock the bootloader. Plus if the hardware is largely identical, it will get sense ports.
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There is 1 sign that tells us it might be the new nexus, and that is the fact that it's stating Google on the back. But Another thing that nexus phones don't have, is a HTC logo on the front. So the only sign telling us it's a google phone on the back is being invalidated by the front of the phone.
I have a feeling this will be the Nexus Two (or whatever) with HTC branding on the front. The Nexus S is known everywhere as the Samsung Nexus S, so it could be a logical extension of the manufacturers branding.
It seems to make sense that the next Nexus phone would have a qHD screen, dual core CPU and be a 4.3" device, after all this is where lots of phones are going and the Nexus line is meant to offer some sort of reference design.
After the Nexus S, which I am now selling so I can keep my Desire HD, I would welcome a Nexus phone from HTC again.
As for the OS, I wouldn't be surprised if there was an Android Honeycomb for phones version (which could be a 3.x or 2.4 or something else) and this device launches that version. I cant help but remember that the HTC Passion name was rumoured for months before the Nexus One came out, this device may not be out for months yet....
On the other hand, this could be all be fake. Or the Desire HDS or something...
HTC Pyramid is dual-core. But it falls behind Atrix and LG 2x in graphic and performance tests.
Link to tests:
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...60-smartbench-2011-result-have-been-revealed/
Seems like the new Adreno 220 is weaker than Tegra
Can't make a judgement until it hits production. Mind you it could also be nvidia fermi all over again.
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If as I to rank GPU based on current availability:
1. PowerVR SGX543MP2
2. Tegra2 (Geforce ULV)
3. Mali400 (Samsung's)
4. Adreno 220
TeroZ said:
An overclocked desire hd plus a camera?
Kinda disappointment.
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Yep, it look very similar to the desire HD!
Don't trust these benchmarks.I'm telling you,they are complete bull****.Unless the Pyramid is running with one core,with crippled GPU drivers and Samsung's RFS filesystem!I mean,c'mon,htc won't let themselves lag that far behind.They aren't THAT much stupid!
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If as I to rank GPU based on current availability:
1. PowerVR SGX543MP2
2. Tegra2 (Geforce ULV)
3. Mali400 (Samsung's)
4. Adreno 220
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That new PowerVR SGX543MP2 is a BEAST!! Have you guys seen the benchmarks compared to the Tegra 2? It annihilates it.
As for the Pyramid. It does have a dual core. The recent benchmarks with the Adreno 220 are not accurate because release is still ways off and drivers are still maturing. Give it time. btw this phone looks absolutely stunning! Best looking device i've seen honestly.
edit: speaking of unreleased htc phones, have you guys seen the HTC Inspire? Sure it's Windows Mobile 7 but the design is also jaw dropping.
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edit: speaking of unreleased htc phones, have you guys seen the HTC Inspire? Sure it's Windows Mobile 7 but the design is also jaw dropping.
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I LOVE the design! Glad to see HTC are changing their designs a bit more... they were getting repetitive!
Hope the pyramid will look something a bit different too!
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I LOVE the design! Glad to see HTC are changing their designs a bit more... they were getting repetitive!
Hope the pyramid will look something a bit different too!
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It does look awesome Giz had an article on it here
gizmodo.com/#!5782453/first-pics-appear-of-the-htc-pyramid-with-high+res-qhd-screen
(can't post a picture or a link since i don't have enough post -.-)
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I LOVE the design! Glad to see HTC are changing their designs a bit more... they were getting repetitive!
Hope the pyramid will look something a bit different too!
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Actually the Pyramid looks like a finely-awesomised version of the DHD.
Sent from here,boo-yeah!
I have serious confident to adreno220. If this phone is dual core and boasts a super lcd. I will definitely buy it.
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Related
http://www.facebook.com/htcuk?v=app_7146470109
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/htc-launches-into-tablet-wars-with-1-5ghz-7-inch-flyer/
tablet looks very good
Well.. I'm really disappointed. I mean REALLY. When you compare the hardware it's almost nothing new.
HTC Desire S vs HTC Desire
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3776&idPhone2=3077
I'm a HTC fan since many years and it's hard for me to say this, but HTC is really behind now and is only trying to make money and sell us BULL****!!!
Just see the comparison and you will know what I'm talking about... minor changes. NOT EVEN THE PROCESSOR HAS CHANGED!!!
The Incredible S is also nothing new under the sun. Not even a dual-core processor... No 1GB of ram.
Seriously, HTC, WHAT THE ****?
The hardware specs of Galaxy S II can eat HTC's newest devices for breakfast.
And HTC really made a big mistake because right now it's no more about the software, it's the hardware that matters. Android is almost the same on all devices and with a community like XDA everything (costumization) is possible.
RIP HTC, I will never buy a device from you anymore.
I feel pretty let down by HTC's showing at MWC.
I was expecting an Atrix/Galaxy 2 rival (aka the Pyramid) and they show us unibodied versions of phones that have been out since last year with slightly bigger batteries running Gingerbread.
I don't know whether to jump ship to the Atrix or to wait and see if they produce the Pyramid at a later date.
I'm not particularly interested in the Tablet, and if I was to get one i'd get the Moto Xoom or Samsung Galaxy 10.1 as they are pretty much the same as each other anyway with stock Honeycomb, rather than a massively skinned and shelled Gingerbread device.
HTC needs to stop trying to insist upon making Sense the core product they are selling and start making some big leaps in hardware, and soon..
Fail
I was expecting a dual core android 2.4 phone with physical keyboard and a android 3.0 tablet. None arrived...
Very dissapointed.
Was hoping for the Pyramid - something to rival the Galaxy S2 in terms of hardware specs.
I really want a HTC and was waiting for this news to determine how to proceed.
If you want the technology the Galaxy S2 seems to be the handset to get, but Samsungs TouchWiz just doesn't even compare to HTC's sense.
For me its the Desire S for now.....I need Sense in my life.
WHERE IS THE PYRAMID!!!!!!
remind me again why i should get rid of my N1?
oh yeah nothing... HELLO!!!! HTC!!! are you even trying anymore?
the only thing turing me off of the Atrix was the possible locked boot loader, and wanting to see what HTC was about to push out....
now that we have one thing off the list.... i feel that i may be leaving HTC for a while until they get their act together... maybe thats what they need... sales not to climb like they have, an actual slap to their bottom line that says consumers are done buying the same thing over and over... but sadly, even with the numbers we have, until the masses relize this, HTC sale numbers will continue to rise and no real reason for them to change...
in their eyes, if it aint broke, why fix it?
for me, its a total dissapointment.
i mean WTF ARE THEY THINKING
its the same ****.. AGAIN
there is still no phone that would be a REAL upgrade to my HD2..
i hoped for a new flagship.. i hoped it so bad..
i hoped for something that would frag all others away.. but they stay at the same level.. just to get even more money out from the same old **** >.>
only good thing of htc this time was the tablet. but thats it, and i guess they will overprice it, so i won't get it
i'll stick to my HD2. **** you HTC, u idiots
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like all of you, I'm very disappointed... where is my Pyramid!!?
Meh, totally under-whelming.
Build quality of the Desire S sounds nice, and i wouldn't mind having one, but it's not specced any higher than my N1 and of course is full of 'Sense' crap which i'd have to nuke from orbit before using the thing.
im really thinking of totaly switching to moto now
the atrix and the xoom tab are just too cool...
and more sexy.
Whats up Guys @ HTC
Every Smartphone producer shows their flagships at MWC this week, and HTC???
Not even one word about the Pyramid is in planning?
Sure we have to wait...
(it was the same with the Snapdragon 1GHz Processor, the TG01 was 4 months before the HD2 out)
And im pretty sure the wait was worth it!
So now we can buy soon (non HTC ):
- Many Dual core (even different Processors) Phones
- 3D Display Phones
- Ultra bright Display ( 700 Nit - Daylight usable) Phones
- Ultra thin and light (Dual Core) Phones (~8,5mm)
And whats coming from HTC? - only a "Sense" with streaming, and an "new" Facebook Button
Where is the Successor of the HD2
Come on HTC, you have to be the carriers of technology, dont get lost in Software ...
Phones are still made out of Hardware!!!
Give the people a Dream - a Dream we want to wait for :
Oh, and this will be such an Dream:
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The Galaxy S II has some fantastic hardware, but I decided because of the complaints people have about software updates etc that I would wait and see what HTC had on offer before making up my mind. Having seen it I have to wonder what exactly are they thinking? Sure they're well built phones, but why do they feel satisfied in pushing out fairly old hardware.
Cheap(er) hardware sells in bigger numbers.
OldBloke said:
Cheap(er) hardware sells in bigger numbers.
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Of course. It may well be that they thought a more reasonably priced (if indeed they are reasonably priced) phone would be just what the market needs. It just seemed remarkably out of place for them to wax lyrical about phones that are remarkably similar to their current generation except with new software.
HTC should really make Sense downloadable through market as a launcher instead. I just hate it. It's ugly and doesn't really make a difference for me.
Regarding the new phones there is nothing really impressive. The new Tegra2 dual core phones that are coming out (LG and Motorola) will most likely blow any of those HTC phones away. I believe they also have integrated geforce graphics so nothing should really be an issue on those phones.
My Wildfire have been a disappointment so I wouldn't even consider a HTC phone again unless I was 100% certain I could make it good.
One devices than can beat the Desire HD?
I stopped paying attention to smartphones a long time ago.
But the HTC Flyer actually catches my attention as a useful Android tablet for once. No Honeycomb is a bummer (Android is already too fragmented!), but it does have an N-trig DuoSense digitizer and apps to use it with. More than I can say for a certain other US$800 Android tablet.
Maybe I won't have to keep looking specifically at Windows Tablet PCs for a viable pen and paper alternative.
Bummer! HTC where's the Pyramid and some Innovative devices??
galaxys said:
Bummer! HTC where's the Pyramid and some Innovative devices??
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yeah i really want my pyramid lol...said it on another thread and i will say it again...htc's releases have not been that great at least i didnt think so
I got a spreadsheet going of a list of Android smartphones coming out in October and beyond. Feel free to edit/change whatever fixes need to be made.
goo.gl/bMFTS
Nice list. Just a few adjustments.
1) As far as I can tell the HTC Vigor will have HD screen, not a qHD. Minor, but still...
2) The HTC Ruby actually does have a qHD screen, but the res of qHD is 960x540, not 1280x720 (which is HD resolution)
3) No Droid HD? Maybe put it on there, but specs are scarce.
I don't think you've made it publicly editable, unless I'm just a fool.
EDIT: Also, is it just me or does the HTC Runnymede 2 have great specs, except for the low res screen. For that sort of price (if the link is to be believed) I'd expect at least qHD, probably HD res.
Quick question does the Samsung note have a stronger or better GPU than a Galaxy S 2? And I know the Samsung exynos chips are known to be battery savers how good are they power wise as strength and overclocking?
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Niksko said:
Nice list. Just a few adjustments.
1) As far as I can tell the HTC Vigor will have HD screen, not a qHD. Minor, but still...
2) The HTC Ruby actually does have a qHD screen, but the res of qHD is 960x540, not 1280x720 (which is HD resolution)
3) No Droid HD? Maybe put it on there, but specs are scarce.
I don't think you've made it publicly editable, unless I'm just a fool.
EDIT: Also, is it just me or does the HTC Runnymede 2 have great specs, except for the low res screen. For that sort of price (if the link is to be believed) I'd expect at least qHD, probably HD res.
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can you edit now? (you have to sign into your Google account to edit)
made corrections based on your findings.
i'll add Droid HD.
you're more than welcome to add to the spreadsheet
Jmatch said:
Quick question does the Samsung note have a stronger or better GPU than a Galaxy S 2? And I know the Samsung exynos chips are known to be battery savers how good are they power wise as strength and overclocking?
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It will most likely be the same ARM-Mali 400 GPU. Its a more than capable GPU. Anandtech dug a little deeper on it recently.
What makes the Galaxy S II seem to drastically outpace newer devices like the Droid 3, whose 1 GHz OMAP 4 SoC also features an A9 processor? The special sauce, as Brian will delve into further in his upcoming review of the international Galaxy S II, is Samsung's ability to leverage the Mali-400 to accelerate UI elements and even elements of the browsing experience, as well.
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Looking forward to the Nexus prime and ice cream sandwich.
How about Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7?
frozencity said:
How about Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7?
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Is shares the internals of the Note, which is probably nothing new: just a higher clocked Exynos soc. Nothing new to report after the GS2 actually, just some weak rumor...imho we'll have to wait for 2012 before we see something really "new" in terms of internals...
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How about Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7?
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i didn't add any tablets to this spreadsheet. all devices listed are Smartphones.
The only thing that worries me about the prime is the pentile display. The ones on the first galaxy s series were somewhat bearable for me but I hate the one on my atrix (luckily its a temporary phone), hopefully they make it a good display.
dreadlord369 said:
The only thing that worries me about the prime is the pentile display. The ones on the first galaxy s series were somewhat bearable for me but I hate the one on my atrix (luckily its a temporary phone), hopefully they make it a good display.
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same. but i think its too soon to tell. from the research i've done, i have yet to come across any screenshots of the Droid Prime besides the one shown by techhog.com back in May 27. There were no capacitive buttons on this device.
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http://www.techhog.com/editorial/exclusive-test-model-for-the-nexus-3-by-htc/
Super AMOLED Pentile? that doesn't make sense...isn't that two different types of screens, how could it be both?
I wish the Sammy Note was coming to Verizon, I like it a lot..
EDIT: No such thing as the Droid Prime, wish people would stop saying that. It's NEXUS PRIME...It's been said billions of times, Droid Prime was said once and now it's everywhere -.- Why the hell would Samsung make two devices called almost the same thing with the exact same specs on the same carrier? Does that make any sense at all? No one would be able to tell what they actually have...
EDIT2 : Just a thought, but I'm pretty sure that the SG2 LTE version that was rumored is actually the Nexus Prime..just a thought though. The article was somewhere on Android and Me or Android Central, can't remember. Also sure that it will have LTE, just wouldn't make sense if it didn't, unless they do the same thing they did with the Nexus S and release a 4G version later down the line...(which i doubt)
EDIT3: Engadget says that the Note is HSPA+, so it's for T-Mo or AT&T. Should be corrected on the chart for people that don't know..
Nothing with a real qwerty?
That mean I will stay in long term relationship with my desire z.
jubilleum said:
Nothing with a real qwerty?
That mean I will stay in long term relationship with my desire z.
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droid 3 or droid pro+ (but thats available in europe only).
i think theres a couple more, but this holiday season, its going to be all pure touch screen.
jubilleum said:
Nothing with a real qwerty?
That mean I will stay in long term relationship with my desire z.
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I think they're going out of style since everything is about thinness now
Thanks for putting up the Doc, I personally can not wait for the Galaxy Note.
Hope it's not made from unicorn tears and actually gets released soon...
jubilleum said:
Nothing with a real qwerty?
That mean I will stay in long term relationship with my desire z.
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ATT is supposedly getting an SGSII with keyboard. Pics have been leaked.
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slapshot30 said:
ATT is supposedly getting an SGSII with keyboard. Pics have been leaked.
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really. can you provide source? i can add to the list that way.
Sony Ericsson Arc S
1.4Ggz processer
blogs.sonyericsson.com
New phone
Should've been released as the Arc rather than 6 month later or whatever but still a nice piece of kit
festa20 said:
Sony Ericsson Arc S
1.4Ghz processer
blogs.sonyericsson.com
New phone
Should've been released as the Arc rather than 6 month later or whatever but still a nice piece of kit
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festa20 said:
Sony Ericsson Arc S
1.4Ggz processer
blogs.sonyericsson.com
New phone
Should've been released as the Arc rather than 6 month later or whatever but still a nice piece of kit
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Filled in what I could, but the chart is editable by anyone.
Hi all
My wife (iPhone 4 user ) mailed me this link today and I must say I'm shocked ... it seems, in some respects, even the iPhone 3GS walks all over the Sensation ... how is this possible?
http://www.redmondpie.com/iphone-4s...-as-galaxy-s-ii-and-all-other-android-phones/
gpu in snapdragon soc's will never be as good as the SGX gpu in Apple phones.
even the Samsung Mali GPU is faster then Adreno 250.
Sadly HTC is Snapdragon only so unless Qualcomm improve it a lot HTC phones will always lag behind in benchmarks but benchmarks are not everything.
One more thing that should be taken in consideration is that Apple designs their hardware and software which means it is optimized for dual-cores.
When we get Ice Cream Sandwich is when we will get real dual-core support and be able to use the full power of our phones.
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Just ran these benchmarks myself and it looks a lot better than they make it seem, sure I'm an update up from their benchmark Sensation, but technically iOS 5 is newer than Android 2.3 anywayso it's negligible.I would like to see how Ice Cream Sandwich will compare to the 4GS (iOS 5).
Sunspider - 3532
Browsermark - 56065
In iPhone it is used in games only but generaly the IOS is very boaring, Android is much better.
the nexus one is faster than the sensation
Personally, I don't think its that the GPU is bad, it should be better than the mali400 by quite a bit in theory ( look at the Qualocomm reference board @1.5GHz, beats everything by a nice margin ) It's just that the kernel and driver software is ****.
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Lol
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My scores are:
SunSpider - 2444 ms
Browsermark - 7900
Don't believe this stock using benchmark. I'm sure that SGS2 can do better as well.
Just ran the tests and got
Sunspider 1844 opera
Browsermark 43865 opera, and using the standered browser 71114
Not really a good test as its browser inflorescenced.
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Come on guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You know Apple is best at MARKETING!!!!!
1) APPLE IPHONE 4S PROPAGANDA, that can be seen on many website for a few days
2) THE REALITY, my HTC Sensation running ARHD 3.6.2 with bricked kernel , at 1.72 ghz (my max is 1.78)
with CPU1 forced online, I hit about 60000 at stock 1.2ghz CPU speed
Some will say i've always hated Apple's marketing, already fighting Apple fanboys in early 2009 with my Samsung Omnia i900 and FpseCE...
....well...that's true
EDIT: same config, I do 2664 at Sunspider, so just behind the iphone 4S, and GLbenchmark refuses to compute my score, saying my GL drivers are modified!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Preventing people who use custom ROMS, kernels or drivers is an easy way to win! (I mean, I was not cheating using Chainfire3D drivers to reduce textures or anything!)
Apple sucks!
thats the problem, all these benchmarks doesn't support what our devices (beast) has. so, it always end up like that. but, mind you. on sensation, it has the 2.3.3 version and with that and all the crap on stock, its really gonna be slow
Here what I got on my stock sensation these results are definately bias for the iPhone release =\ I mean I'm sure its a impressive piece of hardware but I doubt its that much better than other phones out on the market now
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gpu in snapdragon soc's will never be as good as the SGX gpu in Apple phones.
even the Samsung Mali GPU is faster then Adreno 250.
Sadly HTC is Snapdragon only so unless Qualcomm improve it a lot HTC phones will always lag behind in benchmarks but benchmarks are not everything.
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Lol, there's no way the PowerVR SGX535 is faster than the Adreno 220. It's just iOS is way more optimized than Gingerbread + Sense 3.0 ...
The Snapdragon S4 SoCs should blow everything away when they come out, though.
Cm7 alpha8 tiamat OCd @ 1.83ghz
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You can't compare an overclocked phone running god knows which kernel (It's easy to cheat by optimizing the kernel for specific benchmarks) with a stock phone running at stock speeds. That doesn't make any sense.
It's like trying to prove that Toyota is faster than a Lexus by strapping a jet engine on to the Toyota: Unfair, irrelevant and proves nothing: Except that a Toyota with a jetengine strapped on to it iis faster than a Lexus...
So yeah, the iPhone 4S does beat whatever HTC has out by a significant margin even. I have an Evo3D and a SGSII and it is pretty annoying that the HTC is so poorly optimized. Time for HTC to lock some engineers in a basement, and not let them out until they modified Sense to be as fast as iOS...
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You can't compare an overclocked phone running god knows which kernel (It's easy to cheat by optimizing the kernel for specific benchmarks) with a stock phone running at stock speeds. That doesn't make any sense.
It's like trying to prove that Toyota is faster than a Lexus by strapping a jet engine on to the Toyota: Unfair, irrelevant and proves nothing: Except that a Toyota with a jetengine strapped on to it iis faster than a Lexus...
So yeah, the iPhone 4S does beat whatever HTC has out by a significant margin even. I have an Evo3D and a SGSII and it is pretty annoying that the HTC is so poorly optimized. Time for HTC to lock some engineers in a basement, and not let them out until they modified Sense to be as fast as iOS...
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Of course we can! That's why we have an Android and not an iphone: we can customize and improve it as far as we can, that's the point here.
But even with a stock ROM, bloatwares removed, at 1.2ghz, we reach 60000 at browsermark, so Apple is clearly posting fake figures here.
Don't wait for HTC to solve your problems man, go for a custom ROM and a custom kernel, the Sensation has good hardware inside, you should try using it decently.
PS: my kernel is Bricked kernel from Show-p, you can't say it's "god knows which kernel"
Wouldnt screen size make a difference as well?
I've read an article about s2 and 4s benches. Basically, sw runs differently, Android does something vertically as well, when iphone doesn't, so you could double Android point to actually show the true value. I'll try to dig that article.
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You can't compare an overclocked phone running god knows which kernel (It's easy to cheat by optimizing the kernel for specific benchmarks) with a stock phone running at stock speeds. That doesn't make any sense.
It's like trying to prove that Toyota is faster than a Lexus by strapping a jet engine on to the Toyota: Unfair, irrelevant and proves nothing: Except that a Toyota with a jetengine strapped on to it iis faster than a Lexus...
So yeah, the iPhone 4S does beat whatever HTC has out by a significant margin even. I have an Evo3D and a SGSII and it is pretty annoying that the HTC is so poorly optimized. Time for HTC to lock some engineers in a basement, and not let them out until they modified Sense to be as fast as iOS...
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I agree with this. That's why I did my test completely stock. And didn't remove bloatwear or anything and still got significantly better scores than what they posted.
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I was waiting to decide but now I've made up my mind on the One X, despite not having a changeable battery or external microsd, I'd rather have that instead of a cheap flimsy back case on the s3, or cheap plastic ugly squarish centre button
I was looking forward to the S3 until I saw it, it looks like ****, is it just me? curves are too deep around the edges, looks like that old webos phone the palm pre if I recall,
the s3 has some good specs close to the one x but the phone design and the ugly touchwizz ui lets it down, the icons look like they were built for an old nokia colour phone back in the days of 8310,
long live htc!
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look at this ugly dialler screen as an example, FOR GOD SAKE SAMSUNG!:
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couldn't agree more, already have my one x and the design seems so much more modern and sleek than the s3, i was willing to trade up to the s3 if it was good and because sammy's have always had a strong dev community here on xda, but i am disappointed by the s3, feel like they held back alot
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I was waiting to decide but now I've made up my mind on the One X, despite not having a changeable battery or external microsd, I'd rather have that instead of a cheap flimsy back case on the s3,
I was looking forward to the S3 until I saw it, it looks like ****, is it just me? curves are too deep around the edges, looks like that old webos phone the palm pre if I recall,
the s3 has some good specs close to the one x but the phone design and the ugly touchwizz ui lets it down, the icons look like they were built for an old nokia colour phone back in the days of 8310,
long live htc!
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Who gives a crap about touchwiz or sense for that matter...AOKP FTW on either phone.
you can say that again, no doubt the s voice will be ported over, thats the main feature and motion controls
the ui just sucks, ive never liked samsungs ui's
their tv's are good and thats as far as it goes for samsung with me, I held up on the One X cause of the S3, and it's seems like a waste of time,
I'm actually pissed off and it's bothering me,
I'd rather get a decent UI with the phone rather than wait for roms and rooting etc. you know what I mean?? and no It's not just the launcher I'm talking about, its the whole ui itself
I've got the sensation XE and been using Sense 4 on it and all I can say it is fantastic,
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couldn't agree more, already have my one x and the design seems so much more modern and sleek than the s3, i was willing to trade up to the s3 if it was good and because sammy's have always had a strong dev community here on xda, but i am disappointed by the s3, feel like they held back alot
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They did hold back a lot. But it was still enough to take back the speed crown...
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_unpacked_2012-review-756p3.php
Problem is that I'm not waiting for the fall/winter to get an LTE version with an S4. So I'm going to be getting the AT&T One X now.
I'm in the same boat.
I'm a serial ROM flasher on my orginal GS, and have been running CM9 for some time now. Legend of a phone but it's showing its age now.
Didn't get an SII because I wanted to wait for the SIII, did and am totally disappointed with it. Not interested with the heavy emphasis on software rather than design - it is horrifically ugly!
I'll be going to the Three store and picking a One X up tomorrow
I hope the dev community shows the One X lots of love... my initial thoughts are how great it would be to see a One X running CM9 with the Sense camera.... although I understand this is almost like asking the impossible
Flashing the One X seems like a lot more work than the GS/GSII. I hope they aren't easy to brick
S3 is designed with nature in mind, stones and leaves and water. ONE X is designed with the future and awesomeness in mind
according to this the one x (us version at+t) is superior as the htc one s is
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/gsiii-benchmarks/
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Should i start a thread saying "wanted to buy One X but going for SIII"? Anyway, for all the $%$% happening with OneX hardware/quality wise I would gladly jump from LG's O3D to SIII. Can't wait
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according to this the one x (us version at+t) is superior as the htc one s is
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/gsiii-benchmarks/
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Problem is that those benchmarks were written to test only single or dual core processors. There really isn't a good bench marker out yet to effectively measure quad core phones.
Why would Samsung or HTC put out quad core phones that under perform a dual core processor that they were only forced to use because the quad doesn't support LTE?
In that case, the One S is better than the Global One X, which we know they would not allow to happen as it would hurt sales of their flagship.
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Problem is that those benchmarks were written to test only single or dual core processors. There really isn't a good bench marker out yet to effectively measure quad core phones.
Why would Samsung or HTC put out quad core phones that under perform a dual core processor that they were only forced to use because the quad doesn't support LTE?
In that case, the One S is better than the Global One X, which we know they would not allow to happen as it would hurt sales of their flagship.
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You are correct I have noticed the One S's benchmarks, and that is annoying in itself!! lol let's just ignore the One S for now..
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Who gives a crap about touchwiz or sense for that matter...AOKP FTW on either phone.
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finally a man with good sense here roll on the AOKP roms please
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finally a man with good sense here roll on the AOKP roms please
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wonder how long it will take to get a decent rom on the s3, damn that thing is ugly (touch wizz)
& the AnTuTu scores are.....
I'm not a benchmarking fan as they don't tell the full story, but AnTuTu is true multi core testing & I've always found it to be the most reliable in the past - especially when checking different custom roms & kernels on past devices.
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Problem is that those benchmarks were written to test only single or dual core processors. There really isn't a good bench marker out yet to effectively measure quad core phones.
Why would Samsung or HTC put out quad core phones that under perform a dual core processor that they were only forced to use because the quad doesn't support LTE?
In that case, the One S is better than the Global One X, which we know they would not allow to happen as it would hurt sales of their flagship.
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You basically just said something (marked in bold) that has been on my mind, it wouldn't make sense for phone manufacturers to put out quad cores just to have them beat by dual cores. That's simply thinking logically
Hope we see increased quad core bench marks soon. Blah, who gives a damn. They are just digits, In the end, in real life usage the phones will only differ in what? milliseconds? I'm outta here!
Good day or should i say night all
AT preview:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview
I'm really happy with the H1X, I had the Galaxy S2 but the S3 hasn't leaped ahead of the pack too much, seems S3 Exynos may be better than Tegra, but not about the GPUs.
Great HTC win
F1reEng1neRed said:
They did hold back a lot. But it was still enough to take back the speed crown...
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_unpacked_2012-review-756p3.php
Problem is that I'm not waiting for the fall/winter to get an LTE version with an S4. So I'm going to be getting the AT&T One X now.
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Winter? They said summer, and most likely it'll be before the Olympics.
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http://androidcommunity.com/htc-one-x-quad-core-1-6-ghz-specs-leaked-on-twitter-20120907/
Just like previous reports and rumors this smartphone will indeed be running on NVIDIA’s Tegra 3 processor, only it will be the new Tegra 3+ instead. The CPU has been boosted to 1.6 GHz and a 1.7 GHz companion core NVIDIA calls 4-PLUS-1. The full details were revealed in this post on Twitter.
According to the leak, the HTC One X+ has dimensions of 134.36 x 69.9 x 9.3mm and weighs in at 129g. Then just like the original HTC One X the device has a 4.7-inch display, an 1,800 mAh battery, and 32GB of internal storage. The differences here are obviously the processor as well as a few other small changes.
He then goes on to mention Android 4.1 Jelly Bean and a new Sense UI 4.5 will be on board too. That will accompany the new Tegra 3+ quad-core processor that has been increased in speed, then we’ll still have 1GB of RAM. I’m hoping they’ve increased the battery life because in this day and age 1,800 mAh just isn’t enough — especially when Motorola’s new flagship is just as thin and comes with a 2,530 mAh battery. Previous rumors point this phone towards T-Mobile for an initial launch but I’m sure we’ll find out more come September 19th at the HTC event in NYC.
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http://androidcommunity.com/htc-one-x-quad-core-1-6-ghz-specs-leaked-on-twitter-20120907/
Just like previous reports and rumors this smartphone will indeed be running on NVIDIA’s Tegra 3 processor, only it will be the new Tegra 3+ instead. The CPU has been boosted to 1.6 GHz and a 1.7 GHz companion core NVIDIA calls 4-PLUS-1. The full details were revealed in this post on Twitter.
According to the leak, the HTC One X+ has dimensions of 134.36 x 69.9 x 9.3mm and weighs in at 129g. Then just like the original HTC One X the device has a 4.7-inch display, an 1,800 mAh battery, and 32GB of internal storage. The differences here are obviously the processor as well as a few other small changes.
He then goes on to mention Android 4.1 Jelly Bean and a new Sense UI 4.5 will be on board too. That will accompany the new Tegra 3+ quad-core processor that has been increased in speed, then we’ll still have 1GB of RAM. I’m hoping they’ve increased the battery life because in this day and age 1,800 mAh just isn’t enough — especially when Motorola’s new flagship is just as thin and comes with a 2,530 mAh battery. Previous rumors point this phone towards T-Mobile for an initial launch but I’m sure we’ll find out more come September 19th at the HTC event in NYC.
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Football tweeted that on twitter and they just mentioned it:
We follow him so we already know all this
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https://twitter.com/Football4PDA/status/244014812483424257
Part of me wishes I waited, but if I was always waiting for the better phone I'd end up with nothing.
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25%+ GPU for the new Tegra3+
vivek_bhoj said:
Football tweeted that on twitter and they just mentioned it:
We follow him so we already know all this
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https://twitter.com/Football4PDA/status/244014812483424257
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We don't all follow Football's tweets smart arse!... Thanks you jacobcummings for your post
HTC
Y u no make update instead of new phone
vivek_bhoj said:
Football tweeted that on twitter and they just mentioned it:
We follow him so we already know all this
Original Source: Football's tweet -
https://twitter.com/Football4PDA/status/244014812483424257
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VaderSKN said:
HTC
Y u no make update instead of new phone
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They are making an update and why not make a new phone? that's what HTC do
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They are making an update and why not make a new phone? that's what HTC do
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It's 0.4 GHz faster. Relly? I don't need this. Everything runs smoothly on two cores active.
JB and sense 4.5 - this should hopefully give some porting possibilities.... this is how the Desire got so many roms.
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JB and sense 4.5 - this should hopefully give some porting possibilities.... this is how the Desire got so many roms.
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HTC already committed to JB on the One S, One X, and One XL. It's not like the existing One X is going to orphaned. While they could turn their backs on early One-series purchasers the goodwill they'd burn in the process doesn't make that seem likely.
I'm confused about what is actually different. Is the processor actually different or is it just clocked a bit higher? What other minor things are actually different? I'm sick of manufacturers re-releasing phones with the same processor clocked a bit higher with other minor changes and passing them off as new phones. If T-Mob does get this, all it means is that T-Mob is finally getting a phone that's been out for several months already.
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1GB ram? That's not enough.
hei6185 said:
1GB ram? That's not enough.
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What would you need more than 1GB for? You gonna have 200 tabs open in Dolphin?
To htc please bring all features in one phone and you'll be back on track...most notable missing ones are here:
1. User replaceable battery
2. Memory expansion slot
3. Dual sim
4. Usb otg support
5. Unique htc apps(apple has siri,samsung has svoice.etc) though some are just fancy but believe me it helps a lot in ads
Please send this to htc rep so they would know.thanks
Loyal htc user before
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HTC one X is better then Samsung S3 and Lg Optimus 4 ! Got better performance and battery! But Samsung got 4.1.1 Jelly Beam!
Will it work on wind mobile network?
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Probably be my next device if tmob gets it!
I´m totally going for X+!
Build quality and great design is what makes HTC superior
Just my 2 cents
naaaaa even if this thing has a tegra 3 + it will still be **** htc have never done anything right, they always are one step behind Samsung! look at the s3 VS the htc one X the one x is no competition to the s3 even in the camera the galaxy s3 takes the upper hand slightly HTC makes phones that look good, feel good to hold, BUT when it comes to performance forget it the s3 blows the htc one x out of the water
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HTC one X is better then Samsung S3 and Lg Optimus 4 ! Got better performance and battery! But Samsung got 4.1.1 Jelly Beam!
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loooooooooool think that mate but its not true the one x kills the LG 4X hd but the s3 rapes the one X
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I'm confused about what is actually different. Is the processor actually different or is it just clocked a bit higher? What other minor things are actually different? I'm sick of manufacturers re-releasing phones with the same processor clocked a bit higher with other minor changes and passing them off as new phones. If T-Mob does get this, all it means is that T-Mob is finally getting a phone that's been out for several months already.
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only manufacturer that does that is HTC samsung only made one s3 this year htc will make 10000000000 htc one XXXXXXXXXXXX+ this year
It sounds and looks exactly the same as the HTC One. Why not just OC to 1.6 and call it a new phone and sell it for more?
Great idea HTC!
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