Hi, i just bought the Galaxy note 10.1 a few days ago, and when i first started using it, my eyes were hurting and it got to the point when they were throbbing. my question is, has anyone else had this problem? i have a feeling this is because the resolution is not very good on the Note 10.1.
On another note, i decided to go with this over the Transformer Infinity because i read it had problems freezing up, is this true also? what have your experiences been with the Transformer Infinity? have you had any of these problems before?
Thanks,
Ryan
Sounds like you need to see an eye doctor...
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My glasses are a few years old
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No problems here you can try adjusting the screen even try a market app .
jje
What screen resolution app would you recommend?
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ryanskeltis said:
Hi, i just bought the Galaxy note 10.1 a few days ago, and when i first started using it, my eyes were hurting and it got to the point when they were throbbing. my question is, has anyone else had this problem? i have a feeling this is because the resolution is not very good on the Note 10.1.
On another note, i decided to go with this over the Transformer Infinity because i read it had problems freezing up, is this true also? what have your experiences been with the Transformer Infinity? have you had any of these problems before?
Thanks,
Ryan
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Mine hurt if I have the brightness up. Since I've started setting the brightness at about 25%, it's been fine. It took very little time to get used to that and, except in very bright conditions, I find it's plenty.
Screen Hurting Eyes
You probably have bifocal vision . I have bifocal vison and can't use High-def screen . I bought and returned xperia z just for that , but this 1280 x 800 works great for me . Another thing you have to keep in mind is that You have to try and adjust screen brightness to be the same as your surroundings , because when you keep looking at screen and up and away from screen your eyes have to adjust to difference . The less difference the less work for the eyes and less strain at them . That's why the pirates have eyepatch . When they go from bright sun on upper deck down below deck they just switch eyepatch to another eye and they see perfect below in the dark . ( Maybe You should try that lol )
budalica said:
You probably have bifocal vision . I have bifocal vison and can't use High-def screen . I bought and returned xperia z just for that , but this 1280 x 800 works great for me . Another thing you have to keep in mind is that You have to try and adjust screen brightness to be the same as your surroundings , because when you keep looking at screen and up and away from screen your eyes have to adjust to difference . The less difference the less work for the eyes and less strain at them . That's why the pirates have eyepatch . When they go from bright sun on upper deck down below deck they just switch eyepatch to another eye and they see perfect below in the dark . ( Maybe You should try that lol )
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im 21 i dont have bifocal vision, the screen resolution is crap on it, although im uses to using HD Screens.
and i own a macbook pro that i use daily, so that might be the reason why i think the resolution is to low
I too had tired eyes after using any lcd device for a long time.
Some thoughts from me
- reduce brightness of the screen to bare minimum
- install anti glare screen protector. It reduces the reflections from the glass and allows you to reduce brightness further.
- install screen filter... it allows u to reduce brightness below system minimum. Good for night viewing.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.haxor
- take a break every 10 mins when using the tablet. Always use tv for watching movies... i have allshare cast dongle that i use for this purpose for videos i play from my tablet.
- if u read a lot of books/articles, invest in paperink readers. Very cheap these days.
- one big issue with tablets is that focal length that your eyes focus on, is almost constant. Not good. Try and follow wall ceiling lines every 20mins of tablet usage... it helps eye muscles focus on different focal lenghts and reduces fatigue.
- reduce time on tablet unless it's a job function for you.
- galaxy s3 has super amoled screens which are much easier on eyes.
- last and most imp one. Get you eyes checked.
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ryanskeltis said:
im 21 i dont have bifocal vision, the screen resolution is crap on it, although im uses to using HD Screens.
and i own a macbook pro that i use daily, so that might be the reason why i think the resolution is to low
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You can't be that used to using HD screens
so that might be the reason why i think the resolution is to low
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That`s a real funny one....come on it`s still HD 720P
So growing up u didn`t watch a lot of TV......768x576
I had the same issue. I made a couple adjustments and it became much better.
First change the screen color from dynamic/standard to movie. Might take a little while to get used too. Then change the font on your device to something you feel comfortable reading.
http:// http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1958316
Lastly I use an app called lux to adjust the brightness as well as change the warmth of the screen during the night. Helps a lot.
The screen fonts are only hard to read if they are too small. Just increase them to an appropriate size and they are fine.
Regarding the screen resolution. Have you noticed that only the Surface Pro ($1000) offers a digitizer pen with a fullHD screen? There is a reason for that. Those offer full i-series CPU's, not a tablet CPU as you have in your Note 10.1. To run a digitizer pen lagfree on a fullHD screen you need a better CPU and be prepared too PAY for it.
When you bought the Note 10.1 you made a choice - pen functionality vs fullHD. At $500 you can't have both.
I have problems with my eyes since i started using the note 10 plus 5G
I'm a note series user ,i was searching if anyone complained of that
I tried to stop the 5 g but still the same
I went to check my eyes and nothing wrong .
Ill try to go back to my previous note
Wrong forum for your model .
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I'm looking at buying this tablet just for reading (PDFs, web content), 3-4 hour periods. Is the screen good for reading, or will it tire my eyes quickly (like the iPad 1, 2)?
Not talking about white balance or contrast, more about the screen resolution (though this has 170 dpi over 130 on the old iPads).
If the ipad 10 inch screen tire you out quickly then I think the 7 inch tab 2 won't make things better, and I doubt better screen intensity (170 ppi or dpi) have any effect than overall look and sharpness of the images.
Altough in my personal opinion, reading and browsing in this tab 2 is far better than my previous experience in 4 inch x10i
Definitely giving it a thumbs up
So I got one yesterday.
It took me a good half a day to get used to the screen, but it's always like that for me when it comes to Samsung screens (no idea why).
At first the screen looks and feels pixelated, but you get used to it pretty fast. Not the brightest display either. PDFs look pretty bad on Polaris Office, but decent on Adobe Reader. Small text IS hard to read, so either get used to zooming-in or reading in landscape mode.
Kindle (app) works and looks great.
Other than that, Chrome works good, it has a hard time detecting when I tap the Omnibar, closing tabs is a bit slow and sometimes the text gets (and stays) blurry when zooming (haven't tried the default browser). Opera works fine.
The device reports about 4gb of available storage, plenty for books. Battery life is good (about 5-6 hrs of WiFi surfing), will know more when I use it more.
berofx said:
I'm looking at buying this tablet just for reading (PDFs, web content), 3-4 hour periods. Is the screen good for reading, or will it tire my eyes quickly (like the iPad 1, 2)?
Not talking about white balance or contrast, more about the screen resolution (though this has 170 dpi over 130 on the old iPads).
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I prefer the 7 in tablets over the 10 in variety because I can hold it with one hand comfortably. Also because I have bifocals, I like to hold it closer to my face so I don't rest it on my knee like you might with a 10 in one.
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Don't misunderstand. I like this phone very very much.
I have Note 2, and except the pen and battery, S4 is way better. However, these are too important for me to change to S4. Besides, I bought the S4 with 30% sale off, so I can have some profit from selling it. After using the phone for a week, here is my mini-review
Feel: A little bit angular, but still much better than S3 and Note 2. Feel quite gorgeous. However the side is a little bit iPhone-alike.
Screen:
- Brightness: Oh well, the maximum manual brightness is not as bright as my Note 2 (A Brighter Note app activated), but outdoor visibility is way better. Under sun light with auto brightness, white is much whiter (brighter), black under s much less blueish - mean darker. I can feel a little better in reflective level. I think most reviewers forget to turn automatic brightness on.
- Color: colors with Standard mode or Professional mode (AdobeRGB mode) are great, sometimes I prefer the formal, sometimes I prefer the latter (actually it's still a little bit over saturated compared to Note 2 - master sequence Perseus kernel, but I feel more pleasant with it. Black is, true black. Every AMOLED screen I had before is still bright in dark room, but not S4. Don't worry about ink spots or black spots, even there are some you cannot recognize, believe me,
- Viewing angle: better than Note 2, truely
Best screen I have ever had so far.
Heat and Battery: Oh well. It's quite hot with 3G browsing or benchmarking, but still bearable. Battery is quite good, at the middle between S3 and Note 2 (both with mature kernels, so battery of S4 will be greater later)
Camera Compared to Note 2: better white balance (a bit), similar color reproduction and saturation, much sharper (I like zooming and cropping, but for most it's not very easy to recognize), better in shooting moving objects (not as good as One). Night photos is much similar to Note 2 (brightness, color) but much less noise.
But I could not find outdoor visibility mode like Note 2, a minus point.
User experience: benchmark king in almost any area: 630 ms in Sunspider, 13k Quadrant, 28k Antutu, 40fps GLBenchmark, 2600 Browsermark, 3630 Geekbench 2,... (I recorded the best scores). It's quick like Usain Bolt, shooting a low-light photo 2-3 times faster than Note 2.
However, there are still a few strange hipcups in browsing (when zooming maximum and then scrolling) but I'm sure that it's software problem. But the browser is bad, really bad. No quick control and flash support (or I didn't find out how), tab-switching is a pain in the ass. No direct bookmark syncing from desktop chrome. I used Ocean Browser, much much much better (I recommend everyone uses this app)
Sound: The same speaker as Note 2, but better with amplifier.
I don't want to spend a lot for phones, so I decided to wait for Note 3, which is surely better than S4 in important areas (screen, camera, speed) or at least on par.
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Don't misunderstand. I like this phone very very much.
I have Note 2, and except the pen and battery, S4 is way better. However, these are too important for me to change to S4. Besides, I bought the S4 with 30% sale off, so I can have some profit from selling it. After using the phone for a week, here is my mini-review
Feel: A little bit angular, but still much better than S3 and Note 2. Feel quite gorgeous. However the side is a little bit iPhone-alike.
Screen:
- Brightness: Oh well, the maximum manual brightness is not as bright as my Note 2 (A Brighter Note app activated), but outdoor visibility is way better. Under sun light with auto brightness, white is much whiter (brighter), black under s much less blueish - mean darker. I can feel a little better in reflective level. I think most reviewers forget to turn automatic brightness on.
- Color: colors with Standard mode or Professional mode (AdobeRGB mode) are great, sometimes I prefer the formal, sometimes I prefer the latter (actually it's still a little bit over saturated compared to Note 2 - master sequence Perseus kernel, but I feel more pleasant with it. Black is, true black. Every AMOLED screen I had before is still bright in dark room, but not S4. Don't worry about ink spots or black spots, even there are some you cannot recognize, believe me,
- Viewing angle: better than Note 2, truely
Best screen I have ever had so far.
Heat and Battery: Oh well. It's quite hot with 3G browsing or benchmarking, but still bearable. Battery is quite good, at the middle between S3 and Note 2 (both with mature kernels, so battery of S4 will be greater later)
Camera Compared to Note 2: better white balance (a bit), similar color reproduction and saturation, much sharper (I like zooming and cropping, but for most it's not very easy to recognize), better in shooting moving objects (not as good as One). Night photos is much similar to Note 2 (brightness, color) but much less noise.
But I could not find outdoor visibility mode like Note 2, a minus point.
User experience: benchmark king in almost any area: 630 ms in Sunspider, 13k Quadrant, 28k Antutu, 40fps GLBenchmark, 2600 Browsermark, 3630 Geekbench 2,... (I recorded the best scores). It's quick like Usain Bolt, shooting a low-light photo 2-3 times faster than Note 2.
However, there are still a few strange hipcups in browsing (when zooming maximum and then scrolling) but I'm sure that it's software problem. But the browser is bad, really bad. No quick control and flash support (or I didn't find out how), tab-switching is a pain in the ass. No direct bookmark syncing from desktop chrome. I used Ocean Browser, much much much better (I recommend everyone uses this app)
Sound: The same speaker as Note 2, but better with amplifier.
I don't want to spend a lot for phones, so I decided to wait for Note 3, which is surely better than S4 in important areas (screen, camera, speed) or at least on par.
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Thank you for the review. Apart from benchmarking, does the phone tend to heat up a lot in normal use? Also, which variant of the S4 did you have, the snapdragon one or exynos?
How did you get 30% off?
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ilabs said:
Thank you for the review. Apart from benchmarking, does the phone tend to heat up a lot in normal use? Also, which variant of the S4 did you have, the snapdragon one or exynos?
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I9500 octa.
It's hotter than S3 and Note 2 in almost any case, but not much
cell128 said:
How did you get 30% off?
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Special sale event in Vietnam where first 100 get 30%, second 100 get 20% and last 100 get 10% off
Yeah, I think if you're a Note user who enjoys the S Pen features and huge display as well as the incredible batt life then the GS4 isn't for you.
Your benchmarks are pretty much the same as mine, I also got the Octa beast
Quick question but now that there's Air View does the S-Pen still have any advantages over just using your fingers? Besides some people finding it easier to draw with the pen then by hand.
Masonfield said:
Quick question but now that there's Air View does the S-Pen still have any advantages over just using your fingers? Besides some people finding it easier to draw with the pen then by hand.
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Yes. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB7ydrYmOmc
tuxonhtc said:
Yes. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB7ydrYmOmc
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Ah so if I'm understanding correctly the S-Pen still works on other browsers and things that aren't supported by the normal air view with Samsung on stock browser?
Masonfield said:
Ah so if I'm understanding correctly the S-Pen still works on other browsers and things that aren't supported by the normal air view with Samsung on stock browser?
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There is no "dot" presenting the location of your finger, I think SS will update this feature soon.
hung2900 said:
I9500 octa.
It's hotter than S3 and Note 2 in almost any case, but not much
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This just makes me sad hope it doesn't get noticebly hot while using on wifi atleast......Was hoping they wouldve improved this by now.
I've been using mine on WiFi non stop with no major heating up for 5h32mins now, still got 55% batt.
POLO_i780 said:
I've been using mine on WiFi non stop with no major heating up for 5h32mins now, still got 55% batt.
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Is that the screen on time or the general use time?
POLO_i780 said:
I also got the Octa beast
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Snap bro, picked my 32gb Black Frost Octa from Vodacom in Durban :good:
hung2900 said:
I9500 octa.
It's hotter than S3 and Note 2 in almost any case, but not much
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They say the octa gets warmer then the snapdragon version
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They say the octa gets warmer then the snapdragon version
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Maybe thats the issue samsung was having with the octa, overheating. I doubt you could overclock the octa much without it overheating.
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Snap bro, picked my 32gb Black Frost Octa from Vodacom in Durban :good:
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How awesome is it??? Must say, Samsung spoilt us, most other regions got 16GB S600.
By the way, its Tsepz_011 from MyBB.
hung2900 said:
... outdoor visibility is way better. Under sun light with auto brightness, white is much whiter (brighter), black under s much less blueish - mean darker. I can feel a little better in reflective level. I think most reviewers forget to turn automatic brightness on...
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Glad to hear about this directly from users :victory:
The poor outdoor visibility and ultra-slow charging were the main problems that Samsung needed to fix before I switched from my iPhone.
day 2 of using it... trade in my s3... love it so much.. definitely not selling (i said the same thg for my s3 )
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Is that the screen on time or the general use time?
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probably general use time. I think that 5 and half hours of screen on time would be more than a dream for a smartphone.
I used s4 i had problem speaker cracking issue..
Right now I m using a cheap android phone.. Want again to go good smart phone..
I am really confused choosing a right phone for me..
Note 3 or lg g 2 or s4 again...
I don't use spen I dont have requirement of it..
My requirements are.. I want a smooth phone.. Lag free.. Without hardware issues or any.. Don't want to borr.. Software features(to show to my friends lol) is lg g2 have true black LCD??
Any stuck pixel issue there??
And I was happy with s4.. I sell it because of scratch xD
I know I have so many question.. But that's why confusion lol..
Please suggest me..
Thanks in advance.. To brothers and girls..
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Mandeep148 said:
I used s4 i had problem speaker cracking issue..
Right now I m using a cheap android phone.. Want again to go good smart phone..
I am really confused choosing a right phone for me..
Note 3 or lg g 2 or s4 again...
I don't use spen I dont have requirement of it..
My requirements are.. I want a smooth phone.. Lag free.. Without hardware issues or any.. Don't want to borr.. Software features(to show to my friends lol) is lg g2 have true black LCD??
Any stuck pixel issue there??
And I was happy with s4.. I sell it because of scratch xD
I know I have so many question.. But that's why confusion lol..
Please suggest me..
Thanks in advance.. To brothers and girls..
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Both the Note 3 and the G2 should be lag free considering the powerful S800 SOC in them (The HTC One with the S600 is smooth already), the LG G2 has an IPS LCD while the blacks are good they are not "true black", and stuck/dead pixels can happen in any device with an LCD and to some extent could happen to an AMOLED too.
Hmmm. Kill lg g2.. I m fan of true black lol..
S4 or note 3 there is so much price difference BTWeen that phones..
S4 is for 34k and note 3 is for 45k in Indian rupees.. Which so much difference.. Would u suggest me s4 ? Or note 3 ? If note 3 have not much feature for its so much high price..
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Mandeep148 said:
Hmmm. Kill lg g2.. I m fan of true black lol..
S4 or note 3 there is so much price difference BTWeen that phones..
S4 is for 34k and note 3 is for 45k in Indian rupees.. Which so much difference.. Would u suggest me s4 ? Or note 3 ? If note 3 have not much feature for its so much high price..
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I find the Note 3 the much better phone than the S4, much bigger screen (5,7" vs 5"), faster processor and GPU (S800 2.3 GHz with Adreno 330 vs S600 1.9 GHz with Adreno 320), more RAM (3GB vs 2GB), a better camera (4K recording (2160p) vs Full HD recording (1080p)) and a bigger battery (3200 mAh vs 2600 mAh) and it has a WACOM digitizer and the S-Pen which the S4 doesn't support. As for the price the Note 3 was just released while the S4 is on the market for a while thats why the big difference in prices.
G2 D802 VS NOTE 3 N9005
I hope and I believe this post might be useful for someone who is deciding between G2 (D802 UK Model) and Note 3 (N9005 UK model).I have been following this thread for a long time and read all opinions in these forums, but never wrote any opinions. Short Version for the answer is, I have picked Note 3 over G2 after using both for 2 weeks. I have also used S4, S3, Note 1,Note 2, Htc One and S2 quite a lot so am aware of the pitfalls of Samsung devices.
Long Version and my reasons are below and these are only my opinions.
LG G2 Pros (G2 over Note 3)
1) Screen whites are clear white and LCD screen is very good. Especially reading books and web you will see clear whites.
2) Knock on feature to lock and unlock is the most used feature and once you start using it , you will start thinking how good it is and may
be all android devices copy this feature. I actually started knocking other devices now and trying to mimic this feature on note 3 with some 3rd party apps and as you all know they are not the same and don't work that well.
3) Bluetooth sound on my planatronics voyager hd is better for some reason on G2. More clear and high volume.
4) Wifi and mobile signal is really good , more than note 3. I guess its atleast one bar more on G2. Call quality is also very good.
5) Single hand usage is really good and its almost a perfect device. (Almost perfect !!! -- reason in cons.)
6) Lots of customisation options like multi wallpaper, zooming in for sms windows and themes in G2 stock rom. I actually
give more marks to G2 stock launcher. G2 Keyboard is also good.
7) Battery life is really good. I use mobile devices to watch atleast 2 hours of video in a day and not a single day its completely finished.
8) Camera pics are really good in day light and good in night time when there is sufficient light.
9) Back buttons are also nice , some might prefer and some might not.
G2 Cons:
1) G2 looks beautiful from front, but back is ugly , plasticky , cheap and damn slippery. Reason almost perfect is because if they made the
back more textured or grippable , they would have sold may be more devices. I actually find handling note 3 easier sometimes as note 3
device textured back is really useful. People call samsung plastic, but note 3 build quality is really really good. LG back sometimes make a
creaking sound and if you drop I can guarantee that G2 will break rather than note 3 due to edge screen on G2. Actually I feel that I will
drop G2 more quickly than Note 3.
2) Inside the house the low light pics are horrible and full of noise. This surprised me and I am disappointed with camera on low light
pictures. One more thing I have noticed the G2 camera pictures sometimes have blue hue to the picture.
3) Video recording ,,,,, oh my dog ! Am not sure what to say about it, its bad, it keeps auto focusing every 2 seconds to a point where it
gets really annoying. Am note sure how this has gone through QA testing from the company. I was really looking forward for camera, but
my kids videos all have come really bad.
4) To my surprise even though the screen is crisp and clear and good for reading, I did not enjoy watching movies on LG G2 screen. I
guess am used to Amoled pure blacks while watching movies. And also if you just view the screen even with a little angle of 20 degrees ,
the viewing on screen becomes real bad.
5) Outdoor viewing is OK but not great.Screen is really shiny outdoors and am actually a bit surprised that outdoor visibility is not great
compared to HTC One or Note 3. (Note 3 really surprised me outdoors)
6) No sdcard and battery, I know its not a con for some people but after using lot of galaxy phone am kind of used to have all my books
and movies on sdcard. Convenience can sometimes be a con for people like me.
7) On screen buttons look ugly while playing some games. Some people prefer this but I dont.
8) G2 somehow feels heavy and its around 140 grams approximately.
9) I have been waiting for an OTA update for so long , but with past history of LG not doing software updates quick enough, I really have
some reservations about their record.
NOTE 3 over LG G2 (Note 3 Pros)
1) Oh my God ! Screen is really beautiful and crisp, its like a small LED tv on your hand. Absolutely brilliant, not sure why I prefer this over G2 I
prefer actually reading news on Note 3.
2) Textured back and lightweight make it really really useful and this is only 24 or 28 grams more than G2. To my surprise I really liked
the leather textured plastic back which make note 3 easier to grip as well. Build quality is really good and no creaking noise anywhere.
3) Amoled screen, Watching hd movies on this screen is really great. Colour saturation can be a bit more on standard setting, but if you
choose professional mode you will see a lot of difference. May be am biased here but once you watch movies on Amoled screen, its difficult
to go back to LCD. I think the best display quality is HTC One, but htc one has got too many other headaches which am not going to
mention here.
4) Outdoor visibility really is nice now and I dont have to worry , its clear and actually better than G2.
5) S-Pen is really more useful now than before and the handwriting recognition improved quite a lot. This is really a very productive feature
if you really use Citrix xenapp and remote desktop to check office work extra. For me this is where S-Pen is really useful. Air view touch is
also nice.
6) Video recording quality is really very good when compared to G2, No auto focus issues and I have taken 4k recording and slow motion
videos and they are really good.
7) Camera picture quality for indoors is better than G2.
8) I have already got 3 OTA updates in a week and I guess this is where Samsung scores high marks and software updates are really quick
from Samsung compared to G2.
9) Speakers are good and better than G2.
10) Once you are used to Sdcard and the option of extra battery, its really hard to go back to the closed world. Old habits die hard.
Note 3 cons:
1) It feels big and is big. Sometimes my hands get tired if I try to use too long. I really wish width was a little lesser. But am negating this
issue by using gestures via 3rd party apps. But definitely feels bigger than G2.
2) If you are like me and use the phone on commuting in undergrounds, using with single hand can be difficult. This is where G2 scores
high.(G2 is also slippery but fits in hand)
3) Camera is OK in low light conditions, but not great. Not that impressed here. Default settings are changed in video mode and camera mode and its really annoying as I had to go through lot of settings to get it right.
4) They have removed some features like Popup browser, Eye Scrolling and Air view on browsers compared to Note 2. I don't use these
features other than popup browser but these features can be useful for others.
5) Bluetooth sound is low compared to G2.
6) Wifi quality and signal quality are always one bar lesser than G2.
Conclusion: After using both for a solid 2 weeks I have decided to go for NOTE 3. Ultimately the features for productivity, convenience of
sdcard and battery, display quality , and the timely software updates won me over the G2. And this is all for 50 pounds more.
Hope this might be helpful for some.
VJTechie
Well, if for you region locking is no problem, get what you like,
else dont buy a samsung device. Wait for custom roms. Knox security is an easy way to lose warranty if you flash any rom aswell.
I would go for note 3
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So as you know the kit kat update brought back the smearing (which was more or less hidden until know) and is the most noticable when you are on the lowest brightness. But also there is a green tint on lowest brightness, most noticeably in videos. Now as you know apps like screen adjuster reduce this problem but what i found is that when activated screen adjuster (15 on contrast in my case) does the following: i was in youtube app to test and in portrait the video didn't had any green tint, while in landscape the tint appeared. And with some other video player (like mx) the tint was gone and the smearing was reduced or even gone. Note that in mx i wasn't using the screen adjuster app. So maybe just maybe there is something in the software that samsung messed up. If a dev can look into this maybe we can figure out something.
Thanks in advance and i apologise if these things were known and i wasted your time.
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Been using Samsung phones aswell as others for years and never had a single fault. They all latest over a year before being sold on with zero issues. I've had an S4 since launch and it's still working perfectly. As far as reliability and build-quality goes Samsung is the best in the business, and by build quality I mean how well its assembled and reliability NOT the material the case is made of which many of you care so much about.
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So as you know the kit kat update brought back the smearing (which was more or less hidden until know) and is the most noticable when you are on the lowest brightness. But also there is a green tint on lowest brightness, most noticeably in videos. Now as you know apps like screen adjuster reduce this problem but what i found is that when activated screen adjuster (15 on contrast in my case) does the following: i was in youtube app to test and in portrait the video didn't had any green tint, while in landscape the tint appeared. And with some other video player (like mx) the tint was gone and the smearing was reduced or even gone. Note that in mx i wasn't using the screen adjuster app. So maybe just maybe there is something in the software that samsung messed up. If a dev can look into this maybe we can figure out something.
Thanks in advance and i apologise if these things were known and i wasted your time.
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I can't say that I've had any problems with my s4 since upgrading to kit kat
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I can't say that I've had any problems with my s4 since upgrading to kit kat
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Same for me, i keep my screen at about half brightness and it is fine, i can't say i have looked overly close at all though..
Since the s4 true black pixels get completely turned off, the smearing you see are those pixels turning on again. It's a hardware thing.
Can't say I've noticed any difference. Can you elaborate at all?
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You can see it in this video. Black pixels leave a purpleish trail on the screen. http://youtu.be/DOQ91ujRFxU
I see what you mean now, so is this a hardware limitation or somehow linked to the software (os version)
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I see what you mean now, so is this a hardware limitation or somehow linked to the software (os version)
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Hardware limitation of OLED screens. Pixels take some time to go from completely off (black) to a lighter color such as blue or gray resulting in that weird trailing. AFAIK, the older version of the software didn't use pure black (pixel off) in the menu but a slightly lighter shade of black (so that the pixel would not be completely off). I still noticed it in some moving scenes in movies though when pure black was used.
For the green tint I don't know, I remember when I switched from LCD on my Sony phone to the S4 I noticed it had tinted whites and weirdly saturated colors but now I'm used to it and I don't notice it anymore and I actually kinda like the saturated colors even though they aren't very realistic.
Haven't seen one since switching from my bloody ****ty Galaxy W I8150 which had a really bad white smearing effect (v3 HW rev). Using the exynos version with MFD: 2013:12:24 (christmas eve baby!)
There MIGHT be differences with screens manufactured at different time/version/revision but that's just an uneducated guess.
So when i use the Youtube app the screen is about an inch short on both sides of being full screen.
There is an option to expand the screen its called "crop to fit" but it literally crops the video so you cant see descriptions captions or things at the bottom or the top of the video....missing content like this
Anyone else notice this.
Any suggestions. This is kind of disappointing.
Whats the point of such of big screen if you cant go full screen mode without it cutting out some of the content???????
When i use the stock Samsung browser to go to Youtube in desktop mode. Same thing its not True full screen.
But if I switch the stock samsung browser to mobile view it gives you 3 options. One of the options lets you go true full screen and doesnt crop as much out. But the thing is you cant select or change the video quality/resolution when its in mobile view. That kind of sucks if you want to watch a 720p or 1080p hd vid
This seems kind of like a big deal. I cant be the only one bothered by this.
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So when i use the Youtube app the screen is about an inch short on both sides of being full screen.
There is an option to expand the screen its called "crop to fit" but it literally crops the video so you cant see descriptions captions or things at the bottom or the top of the video....missing content like this
Anyone else notice this.
Any suggestions. This is kind of disappointing.
Whats the point of such of big screen if you cant go full screen mode without it cutting out some of the content???????
When i use the stock Samsung browser to go to Youtube in desktop mode. Same thing its not True full screen.
But if I switch the stock samsung browser to mobile view it gives you 3 options. One of the options lets you go true full screen and doesnt crop as much out. But the thing is you cant select or change the video quality/resolution when its in mobile view. That kind of sucks if you want to watch a 720p or 1080p hd vid
This seems kind of like a big deal. I cant be the only one bothered by this.
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There's no good way to scale or crop it. That's what we get because Samsung decided to go with a weird screen aspect ratio instead of making this phone a little wider. I wish it was wide enough to keep the ratio correct.
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There's no good way to scale or crop it. That's what we get because Samsung decided to go with a weird screen aspect ratio instead of making this phone a little wider. I wish it was wide enough to keep the ratio correct.
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Thanks
Wow. If i knew that I would of waited on the Note 8. People always get so hype over these new phones that they dont even question basic stuff anymore.
Dont get me wrong its a great phone but this could be a deal breaker.
But come on you cant watch true full screen HD YouTube vids. WTF.
No point in bragging about the sceen size in all the reviews.
Seems like my old Notes actually had a bigger viewing area if you dont like stuff cropped out. What a bummer.
>But come on you cant watch true full screen HD YouTube vids. WTF
What are you talking about??? If the youtube video is 16:9 you can still watch it on a 18.5:9 screen. Same idea as watching a 4:3 video on a 16:9 screen. You aren't missing anything just because there are black bars on the side. Do you want your phone to show video in the sides that never even hit the camera sensor that filmed whatever video you are watching? You want something literally impossible.
>If i knew that I would of waited on the Note 8.
Guess what... the Note 8 will have the same problem. Every screen on planet earth has this problem. It's not even a problem, its just how reality works. If the note 8 is a 16:9 screen it wont completely fill up with 4:3 videos. on nooo!!! If you get a 2.4:1 home theater projector screen and try to watch a 16:9 video OMG all that money down the drain!!!! You can't fill your screen!!!
Come on. If you absolutely must watch 16:9 videos on your phone with no black bars then don't buy a phone that is clearly not 16:9.
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Wow. If i knew that I would of waited on the Note 8. People always get so hype over these new phones that they dont even question basic stuff anymore.
Dont get me wrong its a great phone but this could be a deal breaker.
But come on you cant watch true full screen HD YouTube vids. WTF.
No point in bragging about the sceen size in all the reviews.
Seems like my old Notes actually had a bigger viewing area if you dont like stuff cropped out. What a bummer.
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You might as well stop buying Samsung flagships then, Samsung will keep using the taller screen ratio in the future too. And it's literally impossible to fill the entire 18.5:9 screen with a 16:9 video without either cropping the video or stretching it. Video is information, and new information cannot be generated like you are asking (how are you going to return back in time, to have the camera capture more image from the sides to fill the screen with? The camera did not capture more from the sides, meaning it's not possible to know what was there, the information is missing, thus making it impossible to fill the screen without stretching or cropping)
It's a none issue. The picture quality is so exceptional I don't care enough to worry about black bars
Moreover, if watching a common 2.4:1 movie (i.e. 21.6:9) on the 2.05:1 S8/+ display (i.e. 18.5:9), one can enjoy an almost full screen image using only a small cropping, without the upper and lower black bars...:good:
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Moreover, if watching a common 2.4:1 movie (i.e. 21.6:9) on the 2.05:1 S8/+ display (i.e. 18.5:9), one can enjoy an almost full screen image using only a small cropping, without the upper and lower black bars...:good:
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The cropping is cutting out informative info at the bottom of the vids I like to watch.
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It's a none issue. The picture quality is so exceptional I don't care enough to worry about black bars
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it is but it was also great on all my old phones. HD youtube can only look so good on screens this size anyways. It does seem better on the 8+ though. I wanted a larger viewing area. Legit question...If size disnt matter why did you go with the 8+ instead of normal 8?
I wish i could get over the black bars like you.
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You might as well stop buying Samsung flagships then, Samsung will keep using the taller screen ratio in the future too. And it's literally impossible to fill the entire 18.5:9 screen with a 16:9 video without either cropping the video or stretching it. Video is information, and new information cannot be generated like you are asking (how are you going to return back in time, to have the camera capture more image from the sides to fill the screen with? The camera did not capture more from the sides, meaning it's not possible to know what was there, the information is missing, thus making it impossible to fill the screen without stretching or cropping)
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I dont mind the Stretch. I prefer the stretch. However stretch view is not an option with the Youtube app. Youtube app is the only way to change the resolution to HD in full screen mode. Thats the whole point to screens like this is to watch HD stuff.
Thanks for the technical info but that is a bit over my head. I still dont really understand that. Its not absurd to buy a $900 device and expect it to play youtube vids full screen in HD.
The cropping is an issue because it literally cuts out some of the info listed at the bottom on the screen that is important to the vids I watch.
Also kind of defeats the whole purpose of an edgeless display and how the phone was advertised.
You think the Note 8 will have the same issue????? You dont think they will make it a tad wider to compensate and make it different from the s8+?
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You think the Note 8 will have the same issue????? You dont think they will make it a tad wider to compensate and make it different from the s8+?
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Nope, if they make it wider with the same tiny bezels, it's going to end up looking short and odd. Samsung isn't going back to the 16:9 aspect ratio, it's going to look old-fashioned to people that are used to the taller screen, now that Samsung has branded it as futuristic and great (Infinity display). And it's not an "issue", because it's just a way that screens work, different ratio screens have things cropped out or stretched out if you want to fill the whole screen.
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>But come on you cant watch true full screen HD YouTube vids. WTF
What are you talking about??? If the youtube video is 16:9 you can still watch it on a 18.5:9 screen. Same idea as watching a 4:3 video on a 16:9 screen. You aren't missing anything just because there are black bars on the side. Do you want your phone to show video in the sides that never even hit the camera sensor that filmed whatever video you are watching? You want something literally impossible.
>If i knew that I would of waited on the Note 8.
Guess what... the Note 8 will have the same problem. Every screen on planet earth has this problem. It's not even a problem, its just how reality works. If the note 8 is a 16:9 screen it wont completely fill up with 4:3 videos. on nooo!!! If you get a 2.4:1 home theater projector screen and try to watch a 16:9 video OMG all that money down the drain!!!! You can't fill your screen!!!
Come on. If you absolutely must watch 16:9 videos on your phone with no black bars then don't buy a phone that is clearly not 16:9.
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Dont be a jerk... Calm down. Dont take it personally. Its a legit concern and question I have about enjoying my device. FOR MY NEEDS THAT I PAID MY MONEY FOR.
The bottom and top of the content of the vids I watch daily is cut off in crop to fit mode. Youtube app isnt offering stretch mode for some reason.
There is important info that i need to see for the vids i watch ussualy at the bottom or top of the screen.
It is not ridiculous to expect to watch HD vids full screen and not miss content. Are you kidding me??? You sound like a fan boy. Its a valid point.
I really like the phone other wise. But this very well could be a deal breaker for some. If Its not fof you great. You have no idea what I use my phone for or why I spent money on it.
Again you pay for a big HD screen to be able to use it fully.
If im having these issues swith just using youtube im sure all the other sites and online media are going to suffer from this.
I bought the phone for screen size and hd capabilities. Had no idea I would have to choose between the 2 on one device.
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Nope, if they make it wider with the same tiny bezels, it's going to end up looking short and odd. Samsung isn't going back to the 16:9 aspect ratio, it's going to look old-fashioned to people that are used to the taller screen, now that Samsung has branded it as futuristic and great (Infinity display). And it's not an "issue", because it's just a way that screens work, different ratio screens have things cropped out or stretched out if you want to fill the whole screen.
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Things come and go every device. I try not to get caught up in the branding or marketing.
Also I would guess the Note needs to be different size than the S8. Otherwise its just going to be a S8 with a pen and moved fingerprint scanner.
Guess we will see.
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Things come and go every device. I try not to get caught up in the branding or marketing.
Also I would guess the Note needs to be different size than the S8. Otherwise its just going to be a S8 with a pen and moved fingerprint scanner.
Guess we will see.
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Note 8 changes will be a 4K screen, fingerprint scanner embedded inside the screen, dual cameras, 6 gigs of RAM and of course an S-Pen. It's a half-year renovation, the general design will barely change, most likely a bit more square than the S8, but generally the same. The screen size will be the same or a tiny bit bigger than the S8+, this time changes are focusing more on specs than the screen size, that is already at the very edges of what is useful in the S8+. The Note 7 screen size increase over the S7 was minimal too. The Note 8 will also get a major software renovation like the Note 7 did, but thanks to XDA we will see that software in our devices most likely even before official release date of the phone, because the processor is the exact same
The annoying thing for me is when the next video plays I have to crop the screen again I don't know if there's a way to keep it full screen until you exit the YouTube app and when you go full screen straight away the ads go full screen but then the video seems to go black bars and you crop it again.
I never understood why people don't like the aspect ratio. The video would be the same size on another phone but there would just be bezels there instead. At least when I'm in other apps I get more real-estate instead of having just big black bars constantly there in the form of bezels
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Note 8 changes will be a 4K screen, fingerprint scanner embedded inside the screen, dual cameras, 6 gigs of RAM and of course an S-Pen. It's a half-year renovation, the general design will barely change, most likely a bit more square than the S8, but generally the same. The screen size will be the same or a tiny bit bigger than the S8+, this time changes are focusing more on specs than the screen size, that is already at the very edges of what is useful in the S8+. The Note 7 screen size increase over the S7 was minimal too. The Note 8 will also get a major software renovation like the Note 7 did, but thanks to XDA we will see that software in our devices most likely even before official release date of the phone, because the processor is the exact same
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Would of waited if I knew that. Wonder the price difference
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Would of waited if I knew that. Wonder the price difference
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The Note 8 be about the same price as the S8+ right now, just like last year the Note 7 was about the price of the S7 Edge. And as software is a big selling point of the Note line, I don't feel bad at all getting an S-line device, thanks to XDA
To the average customer, a software refresh may be a big reason to buy a new device, but thanks to XDA, we will get complete software ports of the Note 8 over to the S8 quickly. These ports will also have very few bugs, because the specs are so similar, good example is how a bugless Note 7 ported ROM came to the S7 before the Note 7 actually went on sale
And take in mind that the Note 8 release date will most probably be later in the yearly cycle than last year so that the S8 can get a good run, because the S8 this year came later than S-line phones usually do. I don't find it worth waiting +5 months for those upgrades, when the price will be the same
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The annoying thing for me is when the next video plays I have to crop the screen again I don't know if there's a way to keep it full screen until you exit the YouTube app and when you go full screen straight away the ads go full screen but then the video seems to go black bars and you crop it again.
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Yeah thats super annoying especially if you're eating watching vids.
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I never understood why people don't like the aspect ratio. The video would be the same size on another phone but there would just be bezels there instead. At least when I'm in other apps I get more real-estate instead of having just big black bars constantly there in the form of bezels
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I dont know if thats true. Especially if you're coming from a note. I wish I could get my old phone to power on to test this.
I do find the black bars or the white menu bar to be way more distracting than a bezel.
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Dont be a jerk... Calm down. Dont take it personally. Its a legit concern and question I have about enjoying my device. FOR MY NEEDS THAT I PAID MY MONEY FOR.
The bottom and top of the content of the vids I watch daily is cut off in crop to fit mode. Youtube app isnt offering stretch mode for some reason.
There is important info that i need to see for the vids i watch ussualy at the bottom or top of the screen.
It is not ridiculous to expect to watch HD vids full screen and not miss content. Are you kidding me??? You sound like a fan boy. Its a valid point.
I really like the phone other wise. But this very well could be a deal breaker for some. If Its not fof you great. You have no idea what I use my phone for or why I spent money on it.
Again you pay for a big HD screen to be able to use it fully.
If im having these issues swith just using youtube im sure all the other sites and online media are going to suffer from this.
I bought the phone for screen size and hd capabilities. Had no idea I would have to choose between the 2 on one device.
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So when you bought it you had no clue about the new aspect ratio?
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force70 said:
So when you bought it you had no clue about the new aspect ratio?
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None.
All I knew was the hype and that blue whale commercial.
Didnt know it was a thing to make sure the phone was manufactured with certain porportions.
Thought being able to use the screen in HD and full screen would be a given.
I have no problem with stretching the screen from the aspect ratio. However that doesnt seem to be an option on most HD content.
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None.
All I knew was the hype and that blue whale commercial.
Didnt know it was a thing to make sure the phone was manufactured with certain porportions.
Thought being able to use the screen in HD and full screen would be a given.
I have no problem with stretching the screen from the aspect ratio. However that doesnt seem to be an option on most HD content.
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Not trying to be a **** but dude they advertised the hell out of the new aspect ratio to the point it got annoying.i dont know how you wouldn't have known lol
Sounds like in the future you may want to research your purchases a little more carefully.
I do agree Id much rather have the traditional 16:9 ratio in a 6.2" size...would be much better for sure
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