Hi,
I've been reading here and there discussions about Kernel 3.0 sources not being released yet by HTC.
Someplace else someone spoke about future release of 3.x kernel source for Sensation.
My question is, can we expect someday a 3.0 kernel on alternate ROMs for Desire S ?
If such thing happens, can we expect improvements, especially in Open SL-ES (real low-latency audio) ?
Thx!
Isn't 3.x Honeycomb? So I guess you mean 4.x (Ice Cream Sandwich). There are no official Roms out yet and afaik there is no official statement if the Desire S will get it or not. But there are custom ICS roms in the the development section. But if you want to test them I suggest you get more info about all the flashing stuff in this forum, to be sure you don't mess anything up.
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No I really meant kernel version.
Currently Desire S has 2.6.35(.8?).
heard there's a plan at HTC to release kernel 3.0 sources for -some- devices, so i'm wondering if we can expect a 3.0 kernel to land on DS roms.
Yes he's talking about kernel version 3.0. We probably won't see it for a while. AT LEAST until the first sense 4.0 device is released
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Is it a sure fact that HTC will release kernel 3.0 sources after Edge / Ville /... start shipping, or just an assumption ?
dmfr said:
Is it a sure fact that HTC will release kernel 3.0 sources after Edge / Ville /... start shipping, or just an assumption ?
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An assumption. But if i'm correct HTC must release the kernel source code to comply with GPL. I think it also has to release it due to the fact that android is open source which pretty much ties in with GPL.
So, the official ICS RUU upgrade is here. I've had some experience with various custom ICS roms, and I found that I love Sense (3.6) and ICS.
Reading the prerequisites and other documentation got me thinking. I hope you guys can answer my questions, or some of them.
1. What does the ICS RUU have over custom ICS roms? I can't imagine anything, except for an updated radio perhaps?
This will help me determine whether I may get the ICS RUU or stay on a custom rom.
2. The prerequisite is having the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader. Plenty links and instructions for backupping and flashing that, that will work.
However, *why* is is necessary to update it? Something to do with the size of the ICS RUU, which leads me to believe that the HBOOT 2.00.2002 is much smaller than my current alpharev 6.98.1002 HBOOT. But AFAIK (in general) bootloaders are quite small..
3. Are the any advantages to the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader? Besides being to install the ICS RUU.
4. Since I'm thinking of updating other parts of my phone besides the OS itself (HBOOT, see point 2) I got thinking about the radio too.
My radio is version RADIO-3805.06.02.03_M
I have very poor reception in some parts of the country where I regurarly am (many weekends per year). Updating to the latest official Radio may give me better reception. Updating to what HTC considers the best radio firmware seems like a good idea, right?
Is this the wrong forum to ask these questions?
Quark^2 said:
1. What does the ICS RUU have over custom ICS roms? I can't imagine anything, except for an updated radio perhaps?
This will help me determine whether I may get the ICS RUU or stay on a custom rom.
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WiFi Hotspot is working.
Not everybody cares, I know, but I do.
Quark^2 said:
3. Are the any advantages to the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader? Besides being to install the ICS RUU.
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Let's see... no need to go the X-Clip route to root your phone, just do an unlock and that's it.
You should do your research first as almost all has already been answered.
1. ICS that came out is official from HTC. That means its more stable, faster, and less buggy from their eyes. And may also be true if compared to other Custom ROMs. Its a matter of preference and ROM testing to see the differences.
2. The untouched ICS ROM also works for HBOOT v2.00.002 (came from Sense 3.0 release, Gingerbread). The HBOOT v2.02.002 (came from Sense 3.6 release, Ice Cream Sandwich) is an updated version of the latter. There maybe great changes, or maybe not. I have not seen any changelog from the net. Based on my experience, HBOOT from ICS does not want the System/Lib partition to be formatted via ROM flash from recovery. But the HBOOT from the GB can.
3. Not known yet. See number 2.
4. Yes and no. Yes, because HTC wants you to use the radio that is included from the RUU as they see fit that that is the best for its ROM. No, because some ROMs or its developers, same as HTC, prefers certain radios to be used, that is if you plan to use custom ROMs. Regarding your reception, the Desire S has already been found to have a lesser or weaker reception compared to other phones. Even older Nokia phones sometimes are better from it. Depends on your area as well.
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HBOOT Upgrade for HTC Desire CDMA ?
Hi,
Just wondering if its possible to Upgrade the HBoot version of HTC Desire CDMA
I am currently on HBoot ver 6.06.1002
Plz let me know
Regs,
Praveen
Skanob said:
You should do your research first as almost all has already been answered.
1. ICS that came out is official from HTC. That means its more stable, faster, and less buggy from their eyes. And may also be true if compared to other Custom ROMs. Its a matter of preference and ROM testing to see the differences.
2. The untouched ICS ROM also works for HBOOT v2.00.002 (came from Sense 3.0 release, Gingerbread). The HBOOT v2.02.002 (came from Sense 3.6 release, Ice Cream Sandwich) is an updated version of the latter. There maybe great changes, or maybe not. I have not seen any changelog from the net. Based on my experience, HBOOT from ICS does not want the System/Lib partition to be formatted via ROM flash from recovery. But the HBOOT from the GB can.
3. Not known yet. See number 2.
4. Yes and no. Yes, because HTC wants you to use the radio that is included from the RUU as they see fit that that is the best for its ROM. No, because some ROMs or its developers, same as HTC, prefers certain radios to be used, that is if you plan to use custom ROMs. Regarding your reception, the Desire S has already been found to have a lesser or weaker reception compared to other phones. Even older Nokia phones sometimes are better from it. Depends on your area as well.
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praveenrv said:
Hi,
Just wondering if its possible to Upgrade the HBoot version of HTC Desire CDMA
I am currently on HBoot ver 6.06.1002
Plz let me know
Regs,
Praveen
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Emm, im afraid this is the wrong thread, this is in the "Desire S" forum.
hi.
Is it possible to extract sense and get works on AOSP rom?
just small tips
thanks
what would be the difference? a sense rom is just the aosp version with sense framework etc which we can't use that easy with aosp/aokp/cm10 itself...
One-X-master said:
what would be the difference? a sense rom is just the aosp version with sense framework etc which we can't use that easy with aosp/aokp/cm10 itself...
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i want to found way to extract sense and merge with aokp rom like ICJ to catch best performance with best UI
but it possible to work ? or start testing some way
i see some mods like PureXAudio,My Radio can works with CM why sense not work with it ?
Sure, when HTC releases all frameworks codes to public, which is going to be never.. and not even then.
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i see some mods like PureXAudio,My Radio can works with CM why sense not work with it ?
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Ehm, how is that even an example? Those mods mostly change audio config files more than anything else. But look at it theother way - Why Beats wasn't successfully ported to AOSP/CM yet?
Sense is a closed sourced version of android. It need HTC closed sourced drivers and framework files.
Wayne Tech S-III
Feeling that your phone touch responsiveness/accuracy is...?
I thought this might be useful for some users.
So here it is, the NBH touch recalibrator tool;
Having seen some users confirm that it does work, I decided to open a thread for it and have it shared.
INSTRUCTIONS:
Download the NBH file from the provided link, and place it on root of your SD Card.
Then boot into bootloader, you will see it searches for these kinds of update/diag tools and detects it; you have to follow the on-screen instructions afterwards.
It is not a bad idea to make a nandroid, just in case...
CAUTION : THIS PROCESS WILL WIPE YOUR DATA, NO BACKUP RESTORATION IS RECOMMENDED EITHER. I SUGGEST PERFORMING IT RIGHT BEFORE BOOTING A NEWLY FLASHED ROM.
Download Link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?akul70qy128lo3u
Did you know that HTC Sensation was the one capable of running HTC Sense 3.0, 3.5, 3.6, 4.0, 4.1, 4+, and 5 even though official support was stopped at 3.6?! Have you ever seen such an ability in any other device from any other manufacturer?!
How sure you are about that statement? "NO BACKUP RESTORATION IS RECOMMENDED EITHER"
I mean, why is not recommended to restore? Sources?
sonnhy said:
How sure you are about that statement? "NO BACKUP RESTORATION IS RECOMMENDED EITHER"
I mean, why is not recommended to restore? Sources?
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Well, it may cause boot loop, so you should perform a full wipe as well, then it will work.
Plus, when it wipes data itself, it is certainly based on a known tip, I have not created it, but maybe it does something in data that is to be wiped before.
I have only RECOMMENDED. You may try as you want.
Did you know that HTC Sensation was the one capable of running HTC Sense 3.0, 3.5, 3.6, 4.0, 4.1, 4+, and 5 even though official support was stopped at 3.6?! Have you ever seen such an ability in any other device from any other manufacturer?!
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Well, it may cause boot loop, so you should perform a full wipe as well, then it will work.
Plus, when it wipes data itself, it is certainly based on a known tip, I have not created it, but maybe it does something in data that is to be wiped before.
I have only RECOMMENDED. You may try as you want.
Did you know that HTC Sensation was the one capable of running HTC Sense 3.0, 3.5, 3.6, 4.0, 4.1, 4+, and 5 even though official support was stopped at 3.6?! Have you ever seen such an ability in any other device from any other manufacturer?!
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Thanks! I'll try ASAP..
Useful for me :good:
Thank you ASHKAN
Security fail!
Update fail!
Press <POWER> to reboot.
I'm S-OFF and HBOOT 1.27
Thanks! My screen don't have more issues.
miillaaad said:
Useful for me :good:
Thank you ASHKAN
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Winins said:
Thanks! My screen don't have more issues.
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Great that it's been useful for you!
CyBeRmAsTeRx said:
Security fail!
Update fail!
Press <POWER> to reboot.
I'm S-OFF and HBOOT 1.27
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What's written on top of your hboot screen?
Did you know that HTC Sensation was the one capable of running HTC Sense 3.0, 3.5, 3.6, 4.0, 4.1, 4+, and 5 even though official support was stopped at 3.6?! Have you ever seen such an ability in any other device from any other manufacturer?!
This tool is a holy touch man, thanks a lot. I had never saw such a file before, how did u find it man
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Great that it's been useful for you!
What's written on top of your hboot screen?
Did you know that HTC Sensation was the one capable of running HTC Sense 3.0, 3.5, 3.6, 4.0, 4.1, 4+, and 5 even though official support was stopped at 3.6?! Have you ever seen such an ability in any other device from any other manufacturer?!
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PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT- 1.27.1111
RADIO- 11.24A.2504.31_M
OpenADSP- v05.6.0.2226.00.0419
eMMMC-boot
Jan 13 2012 17:33:34
CyBeRmAsTeRx said:
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PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT- 1.27.1111
RADIO- 11.24A.2504.31_M
OpenADSP- v05.6.0.2226.00.0419
eMMMC-boot
Jan 13 2012 17:33:34
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Diwnload this hboot update and try to implement it. The procedure is the same as the touch recalibrator tool.
http://www.mediafire.com/?1ed2y87pld66638
It is Revolutionary hboot v 1.27.0000 (If I remember correctly); see if you can do it with this one.
Did you know that HTC Sensation was the one capable of running HTC Sense 3.0, 3.5, 3.6, 4.0, 4.1, 4+, and 5 even though official support was stopped at 3.6?! Have you ever seen such an ability in any other device from any other manufacturer?!
ashkan-khatar said:
Diwnload this hboot update and try to implement it. The procedure is the same as the touch recalibrator tool.
http://www.mediafire.com/?1ed2y87pld66638
It is Revolutionary hboot v 1.27.0000 (If I remember correctly); see if you can do it with this one.
Did you know that HTC Sensation was the one capable of running HTC Sense 3.0, 3.5, 3.6, 4.0, 4.1, 4+, and 5 even though official support was stopped at 3.6?! Have you ever seen such an ability in any other device from any other manufacturer?!
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It say v 1.27.1100 and when i update the calibration tool still the same
Is this a generic file that will work with any capacitive Android phone that can see an nbh file or only the Sensation? I have a HTC G1 (Dream) that could benefit from a tool like this.
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Nick N said:
Is this a generic file that will work with any capacitive Android phone that can see an nbh file or only the Sensation? I have a HTC G1 (Dream) that could benefit from a tool like this.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk 2
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Well I don't actually know, I haven't tried on other devices. why don't you try it out?
Did you know that HTC Sensation was the one capable of running HTC Sense 3.0, 3.5, 3.6, 4.0, 4.1, 4+, and 5 even though official support was stopped at 3.6?! Have you ever seen such an ability in any other device from any other manufacturer?!
I will try it tonight when I get home from work. I assume I will have to rename it DREAIMG.nbh which is the same as the factory image file. May also need the correct hboot and radio files...
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk 2
ashkan-khatar said:
Diwnload this hboot update and try to implement it. The procedure is the same as the touch recalibrator tool.
http://www.mediafire.com/?1ed2y87pld66638
It is Revolutionary hboot v 1.27.0000 (If I remember correctly); see if you can do it with this one.
Did you know that HTC Sensation was the one capable of running HTC Sense 3.0, 3.5, 3.6, 4.0, 4.1, 4+, and 5 even though official support was stopped at 3.6?! Have you ever seen such an ability in any other device from any other manufacturer?!
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Can you give me v 1.27.0000 version because i was searcing for that version but i got nothing and the file you give me it's 1.27.1100
working fine here!
Maybe add these to OP and update the title to "[TOOLS] Touch-Screen Recalibration Tools"
htccalibrate.apk
TouchRecalibrate.apk
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Nick N said:
Maybe add these to OP and update the title to "[TOOLS] Touch-Screen Recalibration Tools"
htccalibrate.apk
TouchRecalibrate.apk
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Thanks, but I suspect these APKs do anything...?
Did you know that HTC Sensation was the one capable of running HTC Sense 3.0, 3.5, 3.6, 4.0, 4.1, 4+, and 5 even though official support was stopped at 3.6?! Have you ever seen such an ability in any other device from any other manufacturer?!
Nick N said:
Maybe add these to OP and update the title to "[TOOLS] Touch-Screen Recalibration Tools"
htccalibrate.apk
TouchRecalibrate.apk
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Thank but those apk are not useful...
So, do you confirm that this new nbh fixes everything?
hi
after my flashing exploits and managing to brick my htc one xl i am a little weary of messing around with it this time
last time i was trying to achieve s-off and corrupted the boot and image
managed to get it repaired and it has come back with custom recovery and is now s-off
is it true that sense 5 has been officially released?
my htc used to be on Asia htc006
the guy fixing it has installed custom recovery for me
can i run a ruu to take me to sense 5 ? or should i just install a custom rom?
thanks in advance
Sense 5 has been officially released. No need to run an RUU or anything, just flash one of the Sense 5 ROMs from our development section here. There are a few to choose from, ranging from completely stock to custom features. They're all based on the official update though.
Sent from my Evita
timmaaa said:
Sense 5 has been officially released. No need to run an RUU or anything, just flash one of the Sense 5 ROMs from our development section here. There are a few to choose from, ranging from completely stock to custom features. They're all based on the official update though.
Sent from my Evita
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does it matter what hboot and panel firmware i am on?
ps thanks for the reply
They shouldn't matter. Some users experience signal drops and reboots on those ROMs though, which can be fixed by either flashing the Beastmode kernel or updating the firmware to the 2.15 version.
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emu123 said:
is it true that sense 5 has been officially released?
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It would have taken you about 5 seconds to look in the Development section, and any number of other threads, and answer that question for yourself.
As mentioned, no need to run the RUU, and I'm not even sure RUUs are available for Sense 5 ROMs yet, anyway.