[Q] Kernel 3.x for Desire S ROMs ? - HTC Desire S

Hi,
I've been reading here and there discussions about Kernel 3.0 sources not being released yet by HTC.
Someplace else someone spoke about future release of 3.x kernel source for Sensation.
My question is, can we expect someday a 3.0 kernel on alternate ROMs for Desire S ?
If such thing happens, can we expect improvements, especially in Open SL-ES (real low-latency audio) ?
Thx!

Isn't 3.x Honeycomb? So I guess you mean 4.x (Ice Cream Sandwich). There are no official Roms out yet and afaik there is no official statement if the Desire S will get it or not. But there are custom ICS roms in the the development section. But if you want to test them I suggest you get more info about all the flashing stuff in this forum, to be sure you don't mess anything up.
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No I really meant kernel version.
Currently Desire S has 2.6.35(.8?).
heard there's a plan at HTC to release kernel 3.0 sources for -some- devices, so i'm wondering if we can expect a 3.0 kernel to land on DS roms.

Yes he's talking about kernel version 3.0. We probably won't see it for a while. AT LEAST until the first sense 4.0 device is released
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Is it a sure fact that HTC will release kernel 3.0 sources after Edge / Ville /... start shipping, or just an assumption ?

dmfr said:
Is it a sure fact that HTC will release kernel 3.0 sources after Edge / Ville /... start shipping, or just an assumption ?
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An assumption. But if i'm correct HTC must release the kernel source code to comply with GPL. I think it also has to release it due to the fact that android is open source which pretty much ties in with GPL.

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[SOURCE] HTC releases Aria source code

Looks like HTC released the Aria source code. HTC Aria – Froyo MR – 2.6.32 kernel source code
Just the kernel source. Not unexpected as the GPL requires it.
I've been looking through it. I suspect there'll be a FR009 soon with new kernel based on this source. I've already compiled one that is identical to the HK kernel some are using as a substitute for the kernel in FR008, only this one is overclockable.
Gene Poole said:
Just the kernel source. Not unexpected as the GPL requires it.
I've been looking through it. I suspect there'll be a FR009 soon with new kernel based on this source. I've already compiled one that is identical to the HK kernel some are using as a substitute for the kernel in FR008, only this one is overclockable.
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Gene,
Any idea what the differences are between this latest release and the prior FroYo release by HTC? I'm guessing this is Aria-specific...
I've not been keeping up too much with Aria Froyo lately. I've been working with basically an FR005 with a custom kernel based on ATTN1's FR008 kernel source at github (which itself is based on the CM6 kernel with some hacks for the htc specific stuff to work) and it has been working well.
By prior Froyo releases, I guess you mean for other HTC phones? AFAIK, this is the first release by HTC of kernel source for the Froyo Aria (or more specifically the liberty since AT&T is still stalling on a Froyo release for the aria). Asian and European liberties (gratia) have been Froyo for awhile, but the kernel source for these hadn't been released until now.
I don't know if ATTN1 will get a new FRxxx ROM with this kernel out anytime soon; seems he's been working on the new AT&T Inspire lately.
DanGeorges said:
Gene,
Any idea what the differences are between this latest release and the prior FroYo release by HTC? I'm guessing this is Aria-specific...
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He just said that the kernel source is for the HTC Froyo 2.2 release and is identical to the HK kernel.
Gene Poole said:
I've not been keeping up too much with Aria Froyo lately. I've been working with basically an FR005 with a custom kernel based on ATTN1's FR008 kernel source at github (which itself is based on the CM6 kernel with some hacks for the htc specific stuff to work) and it has been working well.
By prior Froyo releases, I guess you mean for other HTC phones? AFAIK, this is the first release by HTC of kernel source for the Froyo Aria (or more specifically the liberty since AT&T is still stalling on a Froyo release for the aria). Asian and European liberties (gratia) have been Froyo for awhile, but the kernel source for these hadn't been released until now.
I don't know if ATTN1 will get a new FRxxx ROM with this kernel out anytime soon; seems he's been working on the new AT&T Inspire lately.
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Thanks for the info - makes sense to me.
I've used the FR008 release, and it's very smooth. The only reason I went with CM7 is to check out the latest Android version -
Personally, I think the Aria is a speedy phone using any ROM. I actually like the Sense UI, and the email client (which offers pinch-to-zoom) and the browser (with visual multi-windows) are very useful.
tpbklake said:
He just said that the kernel source is for the HTC Froyo 2.2 release and is identical to the HK kernel.
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I misunderstood. I thought he said, "I've already compiled one that is identical to the HK kernel." I didn't read into this that the HTC FroYo 2.2 kernal source just released is identical to the Hong Kong kernal.
All I did was take a .config from the HK kernel and build from source. That went fine. Then I just added the higher speeds to the cpu frequency table (to allow over-clocking) and compiled again. Installed on my aria and it works fine at 806 mhz. and I'm loving sense again. Haven't fully tested everything yet, but so far, so good.
Gene Poole said:
All I did was take a .config from the HK kernel and build from source. That went fine. Then I just added the higher speeds to the cpu frequency table (to allow over-clocking) and compiled again. Installed on my aria and it works fine at 806 mhz. and I'm loving sense again. Haven't fully tested everything yet, but so far, so good.
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Sounds like a good way to go -
Any way to generate a ROM zip file? I'd like to try it out...
Here's what I'm running currently. Use at your own risk (nandroid first!):
http://hoxnet.com/droid/update_hoxnet-liberated_oc_kernel.zip
http://hoxnet.com/droid/update_hoxnet-liberated_oc_kernel_a2sd.zip
edit: better start naming these something useful as I may have to post more.
Update: this first one has the a2sd stuff stripped from init.rc for those like me who don't use it. If you use A2SD, use the second one.
Gene Poole said:
Here's what I'm running currently. Use at your own risk (nandroid first!):
http://hoxnet.com/droid/update.zip
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Thanks Gene...
This is a really small zip file - can I install it right over CM7, or must I already have FR008 loaded? I'm guessing the latter...
This is just the kernel and ramdisk (commonly called the boot.img ). I don't know what it will do on a CM7 build. Maybe I'll try it. It's compiled based on the .config from the Gratia kernel (sometimes referred to as the HK kernel). It should be a drop-in replacement for the FR00x series up to FR008 (which had a CM6 based kernel). I don't run FR008, but I suspect it will work fine with that since many are using the HK kernel with FR008.
I know this is off topic but, what chances do we have of someone porting the new sense.... I would like to try myself if its possible....
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What is the "new" sense?
mircony said:
I know this is off topic but, what chances do we have of someone porting the new sense.... I would like to try myself if its possible....
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Gene Poole said:
What is the "new" sense?
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HTC will not publish or release the Sense UI source code and the only devices that currently have HTC Sense 2.0 are the Desire Z and Desire HD which have a different screen resolution than the Aria, so trying to port the existing modules from those ROMs would be troublesome also.
I didn't know there was a sense 2.0. Maybe we'll see that on the Aria AT&T update supposedly out soon.
I seen it ported to the desire from the desire hd, and it looks really nice.... kinda of see thru. So your saying it has to be ported from a phone with the same screen resolution?
Gene Poole said:
I didn't know there was a sense 2.0. Maybe we'll see that on the Aria AT&T update supposedly out soon.
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None of the HTC models from last year that have gotten a Froyo update have had the new Sense 2.0 (i.e. Desire, Wildfire, Aria). They have only shipped it on the new machines such as the Desire HD, Desire Z and HTC Inspire.
mircony said:
I seen it ported to the desire from the desire hd, and it looks really nice.... kinda of see thru. So your saying it has to be ported from a phone with the same screen resolution?
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Yes I believe that is true. Both the Desire and the Desire HD are hdpi resolution models where as the Aria is mdpi resolution.
The Wildfire S has the same screen resolution and Hardware as the Aria. This phone will be released with HTC Sense 3.0. Any chance we could port from the Wildfire S Rom, which BTW will also have Gingerbread 2.3.3 out of the box.
jfomicil said:
The Wildfire S has the same screen resolution and Hardware as the Aria. This phone will be released with HTC Sense 3.0. Any chance we could port from the Wildfire S Rom, which BTW will also have Gingerbread 2.3.3 out of the box.
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TBD once the Wildfire S is actually released. It's all speculation at this point.

GB Rom with Sense/OC?

Im trying to find a rom but I cant I want it to have OC and Sense and have Gingerbread can anybody help me out?
there isn't one yet. All the sense based gingerbread roms, are based off of the leaked desire hd/desire s rom, and source hasn't been released yet, hence no kernel development.
mudknot2005 said:
there isn't one yet. All the sense based gingerbread roms, are based off of the leaked desire hd/desire s rom, and source hasn't been released yet, hence no kernel development.
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So is there anyway to port a Desire HD Kernel to Inspire 4g?
They are ported for froyo not ginger.
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Lack of dev support for Desire S

Just wanted to know people's opinions of the lack of aosp dev support for this phone.
I don't want to take anything away from the Dev's that have ported from other devices but i'd like an AOSP Rom that is developed specifically for the Desire S :/
Yes, there seems to be lack of dev support here compared o all the other HTC devices..
What I would really like is if we could have Android Revolution HD ROMs, and LeeDroid ROMs (there are great ports now from dhd)
But I would prefer support from the devs themselves
olyloh6696 said:
Yes, there seems to be lack of dev support here compared o all the other HTC devices..
What I would really like is if we could have Android Revolution HD ROMs, and LeeDroid ROMs (there are great ports now from dhd)
But I would prefer support from the devs themselves
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@olyloh6696
How have you got LeeDroid on your DS .
From your signature i can see
"HTC Desire S (LeeDroid v3.3.3 Rooted 2.3) NEW"
csakthikumar said:
@olyloh6696
How have you got LeeDroid on your DS .
From your signature i can see
"HTC Desire S (LeeDroid v3.3.3 Rooted 2.3) NEW"
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1210399
Currently there are multiple rom within this single thread in development, I'm hoping that they are all split at done point other wise it will be difficult to follow
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Not as bad as an absolute lack of support.
The Kyocera Echo doesn't even have a recovery, stock or custom. We had root until 2.3.4 took it away.
Now we have nothing.
Should 2.3.4 be anything to be happy about without root? :|
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f0xy said:
Just wanted to know people's opinions of the lack of aosp dev support for this phone.
I don't want to take anything away from the Dev's that have ported from other devices but i'd like an AOSP Rom that is developed specifically for the Desire S :/
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It's been less than a month since Alpharev released their S-off, and an AOSP take so much more work than just copying a Sense rom and adding your own tweaks. Hydrogen Saga is the most stable AOSP I can find, andthis is also ported.
In time custom AOSP's built from the bottom up will come. I love not having any Sense.
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InfernalByte said:
It's been less than a month since Alpharev released their S-off, and an AOSP take so much more work than just copying a Sense rom and adding your own tweaks. Hydrogen Saga is the most stable AOSP I can find, andthis is also ported.
In time custom AOSP's built from the bottom up will come. I love not having any Sense.
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Agree but i thought cyanogen would of taken it onboard being the desire predecessor...
well check this thread then
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1173832
f0xy said:
Agree but i thought cyanogen would of taken it onboard being the desire predecessor...
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I think it comes down to a quality issue. I never used a Cyanogen rom on the original Desire that didn't have a bug that wasn't already reported on the changelog. Not even a nightly.
Roms for the Desire S at the moment are coming with little Quality Control. We are the testers!

[CLOSED] Kernel devs needed

Hello all,
I am benjamingwynn. I am currently working on a sense 3.5 ROM for the HTC Wildfire S and HTC Salsa and ran into a problem...
The kernel on the Salsa cannot or won't work on Sense 3.5 ROMS.
This is where I need a kernel dev who is looking for a small challenge to help modify the existing kernel for the salsa to run sense 3.5.
If you are looking for a real challenge then overclocking is also a possibility, but not something we need.
I have little experience with kernel development but am a fast learner as
Moved to Android Development
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Moved to Android Development
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Ain't this General
@OP, what exactly happens?
Stuck on the bootloader?
Also, are you porting a newer Android version and using an old kernel? - e.g. you had froyo, the rom you are porting is gingerbread and you are using the froyo kernel
Also, if you manage to get logcat/ dmesg - it'ld help
And post the kernel here.
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Okay guys I have someone who pmed me.... Could somebody close this?
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[Kernel][Sep 14] HTC Offical ICS Kernel Source Code now is available but is 2.6.35

its a typo, htcdev made mistake, so please moderator close this post or move it to the correct position
I just find it in htcdev
http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads/P10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1325719&stc=1&d=1347616898
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1325720&stc=1&d=1347616898
If I'm right, Please Moderator leave this POST just 24hrs, then you can delete it !
If I'm wrong, please Delete it right now
Thank you sir!
Wow
Does it means that all 4.0 ROMs could be bugless ?
I'm sorry to say its a typo. It WAS the official ICS
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Guys is it work on ics?
Or its for gingerbread?
peiminglei said:
I just find it in htcdev
http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads/P10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1325719&stc=1&d=1347616898
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1325720&stc=1&d=1347616898
If I'm right, Please Moderator leave this POST just 24hrs, then you can delete it !
If I'm wrong, please Delete it right now
Thank you sir!
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Wow! Very good, but why you said "But only 2.6.35", means old, no good?
I think we'll know once some dev downloads it and tests it on an ICS ROM
It's not just a typo like.they're claiming as the file behind the link is called ace-ics-crc-2.6.35-a375925.zip. either they're fuking with us and having a laugh or it was upped by mistake and its not ready yet. Imo its more evidence that the update is in fact being worked on, however slow.
Edit: itried downloading it but the files to small to contain anything, just a few kb so its bull or been removed but if it had been removed I would have expected the whole entry to be removed rather than.just the file. On the other hand could just have been my browser playing up :S
for me the file it's 88 mb...but i don't know...there too much file in the zip file
Dropbox link
Link removed ! Sorry
Here is a downloadlink from my dropbox and it is like the starter of this post showed in his attached thumbnails.
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It´s about 88,4 mb.
Feel free to download from the dropbox.
Maybe any DHD dev. can look inside the code and give us a statement about the usability of this.
Thanks
weird.. kernel 2 and not kernel 3 for ICS?? o.o
maybe. but i dnt think htc is good enough to release an old version. it just 2.x
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i think i should **** htc tonight
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https://twitter.com/FaRTJeTpAcK/status/246014352006713344
Seems is usual mistake, because hTC use 3.0.16 kernels for all 4.0 updates
Alireza, the DEV of Sabsa Prime Rom said:
this is the build number
3.20.502.52
this build number is for inspire 4G with sense 3.0
this is the htc fault to show android v4
this is the build number
3.20.502.52
this build number is for inspire 4G with sense 3.0
this is the htc fault to show android v4
virtous & blackout team release android 4 kernel
the bugs is not related to kernel
all bugs from kernel is solved
It's AT&T, so my guess is it's the kernel source for this Inspire 4G ROM update http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1810461
I wrote it today morning:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886092
but it was be moved to Q&A.
Because I was not sure I contacted HTC tech. support in my country and it was me confirmed, this is ICS for DHD/Inspire 4G. It is only for AT&T on USA market, but I think: THIS IS GREAT MESSAGE FOR US?
alirez_sos said:
this is the build number
3.20.502.52
this build number is for inspire 4G with sense 3.0
this is the htc fault to show android v4
virtous & blackout team release android 4 kernel
the bugs is not related to kernel
all bugs from kernel is solved
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Do you mean that those kernels include the fix for the wire headset control issue?
All official ICS kernel on HTCDev are at least 95 MB in size. Kernel for Desire HD 2.6.35 is just 88 MB. (Don't know if it matters)

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