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Just looking for some advice from anyone feeling well versed on the topic...
Looking to get a tablet... Wondering what tablet would be the best for customization with Roms, Themes, root user only apps... Amy suggestions?
Anyone out there SUPER happy with their specific tablet type (and setup? Rom, theme?)
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I have the same question. I'm debating between the excite, iconia, and tf300. Or is there another I should be considering?
Yea the transformer tablets have a lot of support. The easiest thing to do would be look up various tablets and then search there respective forums to see how much development they have
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I have a Xoom, but I think The Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.2 (Newest one incase the number is wrong) would be good, since it is new, people will be developing.
I'm in the market for an android tablet as well but I see most of the tablet forums are dead or have 1 or 2 roms with action. Is there one in particular that stands out from the rest when it comes to development, roms, mods, and overall features?
My vote is for the Nexus 10. Some great roms and themes are out with more on the way.
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Coming from the touchpad where we had the major players, wondering how asus infinity development is gonna be. What are you guys expecting from this super tablet?
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Coming from the touchpad where we had the major players, wondering how asus infinity development is gonna be. What are you guys expecting from this super tablet?
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I'm expecting the usual assortment of CM9/AOKP/Paranoid/etc. and a few native linux options. If you poke your head in the dev forums of other Asus tablets, you'll see they have great support so I'd be surprised if the same werent the case here.
Glad to see another Touchpad escapee here :good:
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I'm expecting the usual assortment of CM9/AOKP/Paranoid/etc. and a few native linux options. If you poke your head in the dev forums of other Asus tablets, you'll see they have great support so I'd be surprised if the same werent the case here.
Glad to see another Touchpad escapee here :good:
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Well we aren't going to get much development until the bootloader is unlocked. Not to say we won't get some though. I expect CyanogenMod and AOKP to fully support us, as they have in the past with other Transformer devices. They already have CM10 running pretty well on the Prime. And that's a preview build too.
Yup, I have very high hopes for CM, but even better for AOKP as I really like that on my SGS2. I don't know how it would fare on the TF700, obviously, but it seems the high-end character of the device means that we'll have lots of good ROM options going once we get to that unlocked bootloader...
How will paranoidandroid work on such a high resolution? I'm pretty sure we'll be getting CM and AOKP as well as flavors of the stock rom.
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How will paranoidandroid work on such a high resolution? I'm pretty sure we'll be getting CM and AOKP as well as flavors of the stock rom.
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Not sure if I even care to change the stock ROM. The main reason why I changed the one on my Bionic is because I don't like Blur (although, ICS Blur is actually really nice). I really like CM and AOKP, not sure which one I'll go with.
I had the TF300T and I was disappointed that there were only 3 devs (1 didn't have the device) working on roms. I'm hoping the TF700 community is like the TF201 community.
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I had the TF300T and I was disappointed that there were only 3 devs (1 didn't have the device) working on roms. I'm hoping the TF700 community is like the TF201 community.
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That's sad...
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I had the TF300T and I was disappointed that there were only 3 devs (1 didn't have the device) working on roms. I'm hoping the TF700 community is like the TF201 community.
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how much were you able to sell your used tf300 for?
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oo3 said:
I had the TF300T and I was disappointed that there were only 3 devs (1 didn't have the device) working on roms. I'm hoping the TF700 community is like the TF201 community.
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Given the fact that the TF70 will take over (or rather has taken over) as the new Android supertablet, I'd expect the development to indeed be more like the TF201's development than the TF300. The main deal breaker could be the fact that not everyone in the development section will 1) see the technical need to upgrade, and, even if so, 2) have the money to actually do so. It remains to be seen, obviously, but I'm not anxious, and as the others also said: CM and AOKP will probably be coming, so we have the basis of the best ROMs covered.
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how much were you able to sell your used tf300 for?
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I actually just took it back to Best Buy and did an exchange and had them order it. Used my 60-day return policy to the fullest.
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I actually just took it back to Best Buy and did an exchange and had them order it. Used my 60-day return policy to the fullest.
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Take advantage of the system!
If you can't beat the system, take advantage of it? ;-)
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If you can't beat the system, take advantage of it? ;-)
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Exactly.
Lol this is about rom potential guys, not return policies, as much as I love the taking advantage of the system part
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Lol this is about rom potential guys, not return policies, as much as I love the taking advantage of the system part
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Well there isn't much else to say until someone says "Hi, I'm going to start developing this ROM for this tablet."
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Well there isn't much else to say until someone says "Hi, I'm going to start developing this ROM for this tablet."
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I expect CM9 (RC?) to be available for the Infinity pretty quickly after unlocking tool release.
On the other hand, I'm not sure I want to be an early adopter, especially with JB for the Infinity hopefully on its way and after having some serious WiFi and GPS issues on Android phones running CM7. If this is the fastest way to get JB on my Infinity, however, I'd be sure to reconsider.
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I expect CM9 (RC?) to be available for the Infinity pretty quickly after unlocking tool release.
On the other hand, I'm not sure I want to be an early adopter, especially with JB for the Infinity hopefully on its way and after having some serious WiFi and GPS issues on Android phones running CM7. If this is the fastest way to get JB on my Infinity, however, I'd be sure to reconsider.
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I'm running CM9 on my phone and it runs great. No Wifi or GPS issues here (although it's technically not an official build).
I just posted on one of CyanogenMod's posts asking about CM10 for the Infinity. They just sent out a preview build for the TF101 and TF201.
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Coming from the touchpad where we had the major players, wondering how asus infinity development is gonna be. What are you guys expecting from this super tablet?
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That's funny that you mention the TouchPad...I really want to get the TF700. If I am able to recoup most of my money on my TF201 then I'd like to switch. Unfortunately, judging from ebay currently, that doesn't look likely.
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I really want to get the TF700. If I am able to recoup most of my money on my TF201 then I'd like to switch. Unfortunately, judging from ebay currently, that doesn't look likely.
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It will look less likely over time.
From what I have read Asus will not update the TF700T to 4.2 until the 2nd quarter of 2013 and I wonder why. I am no developer but isn't it just a kernel flash. I mean why wait so long if its not a complete redo of the android version?
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From what I have read Asus will not update the TF700T to 4.2 until the 2nd quarter of 2013 and I wonder why. I am no developer but isn't it just a kernel flash. I mean why wait so long if its not a complete redo of the android version?
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Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.
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Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.
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ALMOST FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR LAUGHING!!! Good stuff... can't let infinity users suffer... you are serious?
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Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.
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Dude..... xD
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Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.
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Awww, F%&#... This made me laugh so hard I think I have ruptured my diaphragm. Might have broken a few ribs as well. If I stop responding for the next five days, I've passed away.
Oh, oh, oh.. the pain...
king231 said:
Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.
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That's a lot better than Toshiba did with the thrive. Toshiba didn't support it or seem to care.
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It's a bit more than a kernel flash. There are some substantial changes between 4.1 and 4.2
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It's a bit more than a kernel flash. There are some substantial changes between 4.1 and 4.2
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Do you already know if 4.2 is compatible with a 4.1 kernel?
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Do you already know if 4.2 is compatible with a 4.1 kernel?
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No not yet. Do you want to have a look. I'll set up a link for you.
king231 said:
Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.
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Hahahahahaha... :laugh: Not letting Infinity users suffer? In which universe?
Anyway, the same thing happened with Jelly Bean. Asus rolled it out to the low and mid-range tablets first as a testrun, and when it worked properly (more or less, I still can't type an é) they send it our way.
I'd rather wait a few more months than get a buggy OS. Besides, I'm already glad Asus decided to incorporate the option to get rid of that horrendous 7"-designed double bar UI.
So it's 6 days in on March, so we expect to see Android 4.2 update for TF700 in 25 days.
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So it's 6 days in on March, so we expect to see Android 4.2 update for TF700 in 25 days.
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Awesome. Let's just hope asus can get it together and deliver a good update (I know I know... It's not likely). Is sad that many people have had to unlock just to get the value they payed for
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That's a lot better than Toshiba did with the thrive. Toshiba didn't support it or seem to care.
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MartyHulskemper said:
Awww, F%&#... This made me laugh so hard I think I have ruptured my diaphragm. Might have broken a few ribs as well. If I stop responding for the next five days, I've passed away.
Oh, oh, oh.. the pain...
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ray3andrei said:
Dude..... xD
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ALMOST FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR LAUGHING!!! Good stuff... can't let infinity users suffer... you are serious?
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I was talking about any major bugs if they ever existed. When tf300 got jellybean 4.1 the performance went terribly bad and had a hell lot of bugs. But when the update came to infinity some bugs were fixed and the performance was not as bad as it was on tf300. I know that a few ppl are not happy with infinity but the fact is none of the android tablets are totally bug free. If you want something so smooth or something just go with apple. But i bet its not as open as android.
We are all here to get the most from an android tablet, dealing with that stupid fruit company's products is it's own kind of suffering. That said, android could be better on our beloved tabs than Asus has allowed it to be. My father has a 300 and it has gone through growing plains also but I still see them dropping the ball on features on their entire tablet line, I had a 200(but let's not go there). They need to get their act together with this one. I want my HDMI scale and crop options back, and please don't take away my locking task bar again! They should be better at these by now but I disagree that they learned anything from the 300 and took it to the 700. If nothing else, look through the feature changes and issues that people run into on the 200, 300, and 700 updates and you will see that these are completely different development teams. Tien from Asus said it himself, the teams are not working together and some of the changes and features on one model may never get applied to others. That includes fixes.
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I was talking about any major bugs if they ever existed. When tf300 got jellybean 4.1 the performance went terribly bad and had a hell lot of bugs. But when the update came to infinity some bugs were fixed and the performance was not as bad as it was on tf300. I know that a few ppl are not happy with infinity but the fact is none of the android tablets are totally bug free. If you want something so smooth or something just go with apple. But i bet its not as open as android.
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they're also laughing that you implied we tf700 owners get some kind of special treatment and that asus uses tf300 owners as guinea pigs.. that's ridiculous.
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they're also laughing that you implied we tf700 owners get some kind of special treatment and that asus uses tf300 owners as guinea pigs.. that's ridiculous.
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Mostly we're laughing because of the I/O issue and the (in the US) poor build quality, and the accents on the keyboard dock that still aren't functioning, and other such issues. Oh, and the WiFi/GPS issue of a certain previous tablet.
Older and lower-range products have always been used as guinea pigs... someone has to be the test group. Makes sense to go with those who paid less for the product.
Yes, I laughed my proverbial ass off at the implication thatwe'll be spared bugs because of 'testing' on the TF300. Firstly, they're different devices, although there are clear parallels. On the TF700 the screen resolution does seem to bring the Tegra3 to its knees far more easily than of the TF300. Furthermore, ASUS has known about the I/O issue for AGES, and athough the TF201 owners were quite vocal about the crappy performance on their devices, ASUS didn't give a **** and put the TF700 out there with identical device genetics and thus the same problems. The only fix they made was the plastic strip that alleviated the WiFi/GPS problems.
So, yes, I found your remark the most entertaining one that day.
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Yes, I laughed my proverbial ass off at the implication thatwe'll be spared bugs because of 'testing' on the TF300. Firstly, they're different devices, although there are clear parallels. On the TF700 the screen resolution does seem to bring the Tegra3 to its knees far more easily than of the TF300. Furthermore, ASUS has known about the I/O issue for AGES, and athough the TF201 owners were quite vocal about the crappy performance on their devices, ASUS didn't give a **** and put the TF700 out there with identical device genetics and thus the same problems. The only fix they made was the plastic strip that alleviated the WiFi/GPS problems.
So, yes, I found your remark the most entertaining one that day.
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I wonder if this could be cause for class action.
I mean not being able to download a app and browse at the same time for me is a complete disappointment.
I would consider that to be a reasonable expectation of performance, and if this was really a "known" issue with a definitive solution, and was not addressed in a newer model, just seems like we got a lemon and Ausus knew it.
This is my first and only tablet and I don't have a lot of experience with them, but I think the "Browser has stop responding" message all the time when running stock is ridiculous. I know there are workarounds but at $600 dollars for a 3rd Gen tablet we shouldn't need workarounds for basic functionality.
Question: Can the memory be changed by a professional with the proper equipment? or is this a situation where the chips are embedded in the board through a process that can not be undone with out destroying the board?
ASUS support, meh, who needs it.
MartyHulskemper said:
Awww, F%&#... This made me laugh so hard I think I have ruptured my diaphragm. Might have broken a few ribs as well. If I stop responding for the next five days, I've passed away.
Oh, oh, oh.. the pain...
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Agreed, If I'd stayed on stock for the past 8 months my device would be in pieces scattered about my apartment. The rage inducing lag was absurd. Quite happy with the new 10.1 nightlies though. Mmmmm 4.2.
Sometimes I wonder if ASUS realizes that truly interested consumers will just go to places like XDA for support and updates, making them slack at supporting their less ambitious customers. Makes some sense (not cool, but logical)
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I wonder if this could be cause for class action.
I mean not being able to download a app and browse at the same time for me is a complete disappointment.
I would consider that to be a reasonable expectation of performance......
Question: Can the memory be changed by a professional with the proper equipment? or is this a situation where the chips are embedded in the board through a process that can not be undone with out destroying the board?
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It should be a reasonable expectation with a premium tablet to have a smooth user interface no matter what updates are being downloaded.
And no, a pro that can de-solder a built in nand chip would likely cost you over $600 and probably wouldn't even work.
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I'm simply confused of why does asus release updates on the lower end model?
I ditched the 300 for the infinity, and never looked behind but now it kind of backfires, i'm still hoping 4.2 will solve some of the lag issues, i just don't understand why the 300 is smoother with lower specs, ( dont bring screen res in this please )
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ray3andrei said:
i just don't understand why the 300 is smoother with lower specs, ( dont bring screen res in this please )
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Sounds to me like you don't want to understand.
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I'm simply confused of why does asus release updates on the lower end model?
I ditched the 300 for the infinity, and never looked behind but now it kind of backfires, i'm still hoping 4.2 will solve some of the lag issues, i just don't understand why the 300 is smoother with lower specs, ( dont bring screen res in this please )
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Well if you would ask me i would say they are experimenting on the lower end tablet before updating their flagship. I know many won't agree with me and though Tein from Asus said that the teams for software development of each of the devices are different I would say why would Asus openly admit that they are testing out their firmware on tf300t. That would outrage tf300t owners.
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Well if you would ask me i would say they are experimenting on the lower end tablet before updating their flagship. I know many won't agree with me and though Tein from Asus said that the teams for software development of each of the devices are different I would say why would Asus openly admit that they are testing out their firmware on tf300t. That would outrage tf300t owners.
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+1 right on bro!!
Didn't we already discuss 4.2 and TF300 and the release here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2178399
If you don't want to hear "Because of the screen resolution", don't ask the question to which that is the answer. Again, this has been discussed a thousand times.
Deja vu....
And no, there are different development teams... They are different enough devices that even the features on the firmwares are different.
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If you tell me that the screen res is what's causing the problem i'll return the tablet right now, it has a powerful gpu that is capable of running more pixels on some very basic graphics, and a cpu that is even more powerful so dont throw that **** at me that the tf300 is smoother because of the screen res. Sure 3d gaming is where the tf300 outperforms because of the res, but in menu's i bet its something else
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If you tell me that the screen res is what's causing the problem i'll return the tablet right now, it has a powerful gpu that is capable of running more pixels on some very basic graphics, and a cpu that is even more powerful so dont throw that **** at me that the tf300 is smoother because of the screen res. Sure 3d gaming is where the tf300 outperforms because of the res, but in menu's i bet its something else
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The screen res no matter still has something to do with it. On cyanogen 10.1 it is very smooth, in Cromi it is fast but doesnt seem as smooth as cyanogen. I think that is the difference between 4.1.x and 4.2.x. And the bloatware on the tf700 by ASUS seems to be what slows in down tremondously. Also drivers are an issue on it as well. The bloatware when taken away, in Cromi's case, leaves a very fast tablet. ASUS should take some advice from sbdags LOL.
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I do not believe 4.2.1 (or 4.2.2) will solve any of the problems we've been running into -- it might even make them far worse.
@ray3andrei: I'd sell the 700 if I were you. It makes at leats two people on this Earth significantly happier: you, and me. You because you will no longer have to put up with this mediocre POS-in-your-view, and me for not visiting a forum and seeing a "question" posted that has been answred before, and before... Nothing personal in that, mind you, but we all do our best in here to help anyone with issues out, and no one in here has been on the design team for the TF700. Whining won't help -- put your wallet where your opinion is: away from ASUS.
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I do not believe 4.2.1 (or 4.2.2) will solve any of the problems we've been running into -- it might even make them far worse.
@ray3andrei: I'd sell the 700 if I were you. It makes at leats two people on this Earth significantly happier: you, and me. You because you will no longer have to put up with this mediocre POS-in-your-view, and me for not visiting a forum and seeing a "question" posted that has been answred before, and before... Nothing personal in that, mind you, but we all do our best in here to help anyone with issues out, and no one in here has been on the design team for the TF700. Whining won't help -- put your wallet where your opinion is: away from ASUS.
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lol you made my day, all the negative responses, and btw the question was about 4.2 not the lagginess of the tablet, and i have a lot of asus products and im very happy with them,
XDA is just great right now with members like you, nothing personal bro
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lol you made my day, all the negative responses, and btw the question was about 4.2 not the lagginess of the tablet, and i have a lot of asus products and im very happy with them,
XDA is just great right now with members like you, nothing personal bro and last time i checked no1 forces you to post or read this
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ray3andrei said:
I'm simply confused of why does asus release updates on the lower end model?
I ditched the 300 for the infinity, and never looked behind but now it kind of backfires, i'm still hoping 4.2 will solve some of the lag issues, i just don't understand why the 300 is smoother with lower specs, ( dont bring screen res in this please)
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ray3andrei said:
lol you made my day, all the negative responses, and btw the question was about 4.2 not the lagginess of the tablet, and i have a lot of asus products and im very happy with them,
XDA is just great right now with members like you, nothing personal bro
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Get your act together -- you specifically said in your OP that you hoped 4.2 fixed the lag issues. SELL THE 700 AND BUY AN IPAD.
EDIT: How the hell can you tell XDA has gone downhill when you only registered in June 2012, probably when you got your 700? Pffff...
ray3andrei said:
lol you made my day, all the negative responses, and btw the question was about 4.2 not the lagginess of the tablet, and i have a lot of asus products and im very happy with them,
XDA is just great right now with members like you, nothing personal bro
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You asked a question in which you didnt want to be given the answer that is the answer. Yes there are bugs in the Rom but you cannot expect people to give you answer they dont have or you dont want given to you. 4.2 will eventually be released for the tf700, why they released it on the 300 first idk, maybe there was more bugs to work out on the tf700 than on the 300. If you are not happy with the tf700 then go back to the 300. Other then that there are no other answers to be given.
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They always release stuff for the TF300 first. I would imagine that it has a larger user base and that it's a bit of a guinea pig release for them. I have noted that with previous releases that Asus are fairly quick and knocking out updates to fix things and then the TF700 gets the new patched release as its first release. This is what happened with 4.1.1
Not sure why everyone keeps asserting that they are somehow using the tf300 to improve the update before releasing to the tf700 crowd. Just because it has some logic behind it does not mean that Asus is in any way as logical as your reasoning.
I repeat, Tien has stated in no uncertain terms that the development teams are different and if you look at the features of the devices, they are similar but not the same in most cases, but different enough to require different teams and feature support.
Sdbags... U da man, but sorry, as illogical as it is, Asus is sharing little from one team to the other. It is a total crap shoot at this point what features get implemented and what bugs carry over from one device to another. This has upset me from the beginning and been a point of contention with my many transformer users whom I support in a corporate setting.
As far as I am concerned, they should get some help from the talented developers here, like yourself to get this running properly.
The tf300 is a lower priced device and they are less concerned about backlash from upset users who pay as much as an iPad to get a high end device... They can always claim that it is an entry level device when issues occur with the tf300.
If you look at the features that the 700 has, you can see that there are some additional things that need to be supported before releasing it. IPS+, resolution, different CPU/GPU profiles, support for more ps3 controller profiles, the list goes on.
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Not sure why everyone keeps asserting that they are somehow using the tf300 to improve the update before releasing to the tf700 crowd. Just because it has some logic behind it does not mean that Asus is in any way as logical as your reasoning.
I repeat, Tien has stated in no uncertain terms that the development teams are different and if you look at the features of the devices, they are similar but not the same in most cases, but different enough to require different teams and feature support.
Sdbags... U da man, but sorry, as illogical as it is, Asus is sharing little from one team to the other. It is a total crap shoot at this point what features get implemented and what bugs carry over from one device to another. This has upset me from the beginning and been a point of contention with my many transformer users whom I support in a corporate setting.
As far as I am concerned, they should get some help from the talented developers here, like yourself to get this running properly.
The tf300 is a lower priced device and they are less concerned about backlash from upset users who pay as much as an iPad to get a high end device... They can always claim that it is an entry level device when issues occur with the tf300.
If you look at the features that the 700 has, you can see that there are some additional things that need to be supported before releasing it. IPS+, resolution, different CPU/GPU profiles, support for more ps3 controller profiles, the list goes on.
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Having examined the rom files for the TF700 and TF300 the two devices are a lot closer than you think. The firmwares also share many similarities. In fact a TF300 file and a TF700 file are 99% the exact same files so I don't buy the fact that the dev teams don't talk or are different. They are clearly sharing the same source and at times sharing the same outputs.
If you take a TF700 rom and flash it on a TF300 even with a TF700 kernel everything works except the front facing camera. I believe the hardware is different thus causing that. Otherwise they work the same. Even TF300 users have success overclocking to the same speeds as TF700 users..... The reverse is also true - in fact they don't remove the higher res files form the TF300 because in my opinion it is easier to build one version that fits both.
If I were them I would release new stuff to one user base first, get the bugs ironed out and then release to the higher end user base. Seems very logical and a very good IT release strategy to me. And in fact this is what they did with the JB 4.1.1 release and they appear to be doing with the 4.2.1 release. There is no release date for the TF700. Why? Imo (not based on any facts of course) they are waiting to see if it works well. If so they release a version of it for the TF700, if not they patch the TF300 and we wait a bit longer. So far the reviews from the TF300 users is good - no major bugs (unlike the 4.2 google nexus release) so I expect us to have the TF700 version in the first week of April if history repeats itself.
You make a lot of sense man, if I had not heard it from tien and Gary, I wouldn't believe it either. And as much as I agree with your logic, it's just not the case... They both start with the same base from Google, add their custom framework- that IS 99% of the code. They are very close, but as you have seen with the camera, they are not the same device... Bad strategy, I agree.
The only "facts" I have are what the reps have said in dealing with troubleshooting those devices with Asus.
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MartyHulskemper said:
Get your act together -- you specifically said in your OP that you hoped 4.2 fixed the lag issues. SELL THE 700 AND BUY AN IPAD.
EDIT: How the hell can you tell XDA has gone downhill when you only registered in June 2012, probably when you got your 700? Pffff...
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I had an ipad and sold it, because i didnt like it, and i got my tf700 before june, aaaand i like the tablet tbh. And yeah i said i hope 4.2 fixes the lag issues but thats not what im focusing on,
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Tylorw1 said:
You asked a question in which you didnt want to be given the answer that is the answer. Yes there are bugs in the Rom but you cannot expect people to give you answer they dont have or you dont want given to you. 4.2 will eventually be released for the tf700, why they released it on the 300 first idk, maybe there was more bugs to work out on the tf700 than on the 300. If you are not happy with the tf700 then go back to the 300. Other then that there are no other answers to be given.
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I asked that where exactly?
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ray3andrei said:
I asked that where exactly?
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ray3andrei said:
... i just don't understand why the 300 is smoother with lower specs, ( dont bring screen res in this please )...
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ray3andrei said:
I had an ipad and sold it, because i didnt like it, and i got my tf700 before june, aaaand i like the tablet tbh. And yeah i said i hope 4.2 fixes the lag issues but thats not what im focusing on,
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Wat other improvement are you expecting from 4.2 then? Muti-user capability? Hardly game-chaning, isn't it? Very few users actually use it on the devices that provide the capability.
Sorry for such a basic question but I don't see it addressed when I search for it.
It looks like ASUS customized some aspects of the user interface and added some apps. I am curious if anyone can list what features you give up from the ASUS 4.2.1 when you go to CM10.1 vs. what you gain in CM10.1, and how that tradeoff would change if/when ASUS releases their version of 4.2.2? CM10(.1) seems popular so I am guessing it wins out over the ASUS upgrade, but I'd like to see specifics.
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Sorry for such a basic question but I don't see it addressed when I search for it.
It looks like ASUS customized some aspects of the user interface and added some apps. I am curious if anyone can list what features you give up from the ASUS 4.2.1 when you go to CM10.1 vs. what you gain in CM10.1, and how that tradeoff would change if/when ASUS releases their version of 4.2.2? CM10(.1) seems popular so I am guessing it wins out over the ASUS upgrade, but I'd like to see specifics.
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Less bloat & more speed I think is the main reason for switching to CM, at least that's why I did