I'm simply confused of why does asus release updates on the lower end model?
I ditched the 300 for the infinity, and never looked behind but now it kind of backfires, i'm still hoping 4.2 will solve some of the lag issues, i just don't understand why the 300 is smoother with lower specs, ( dont bring screen res in this please )
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ray3andrei said:
i just don't understand why the 300 is smoother with lower specs, ( dont bring screen res in this please )
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Sounds to me like you don't want to understand.
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I'm simply confused of why does asus release updates on the lower end model?
I ditched the 300 for the infinity, and never looked behind but now it kind of backfires, i'm still hoping 4.2 will solve some of the lag issues, i just don't understand why the 300 is smoother with lower specs, ( dont bring screen res in this please )
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Well if you would ask me i would say they are experimenting on the lower end tablet before updating their flagship. I know many won't agree with me and though Tein from Asus said that the teams for software development of each of the devices are different I would say why would Asus openly admit that they are testing out their firmware on tf300t. That would outrage tf300t owners.
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Well if you would ask me i would say they are experimenting on the lower end tablet before updating their flagship. I know many won't agree with me and though Tein from Asus said that the teams for software development of each of the devices are different I would say why would Asus openly admit that they are testing out their firmware on tf300t. That would outrage tf300t owners.
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+1 right on bro!!
Didn't we already discuss 4.2 and TF300 and the release here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2178399
If you don't want to hear "Because of the screen resolution", don't ask the question to which that is the answer. Again, this has been discussed a thousand times.
Deja vu....
And no, there are different development teams... They are different enough devices that even the features on the firmwares are different.
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If you tell me that the screen res is what's causing the problem i'll return the tablet right now, it has a powerful gpu that is capable of running more pixels on some very basic graphics, and a cpu that is even more powerful so dont throw that **** at me that the tf300 is smoother because of the screen res. Sure 3d gaming is where the tf300 outperforms because of the res, but in menu's i bet its something else
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If you tell me that the screen res is what's causing the problem i'll return the tablet right now, it has a powerful gpu that is capable of running more pixels on some very basic graphics, and a cpu that is even more powerful so dont throw that **** at me that the tf300 is smoother because of the screen res. Sure 3d gaming is where the tf300 outperforms because of the res, but in menu's i bet its something else
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The screen res no matter still has something to do with it. On cyanogen 10.1 it is very smooth, in Cromi it is fast but doesnt seem as smooth as cyanogen. I think that is the difference between 4.1.x and 4.2.x. And the bloatware on the tf700 by ASUS seems to be what slows in down tremondously. Also drivers are an issue on it as well. The bloatware when taken away, in Cromi's case, leaves a very fast tablet. ASUS should take some advice from sbdags LOL.
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I do not believe 4.2.1 (or 4.2.2) will solve any of the problems we've been running into -- it might even make them far worse.
@ray3andrei: I'd sell the 700 if I were you. It makes at leats two people on this Earth significantly happier: you, and me. You because you will no longer have to put up with this mediocre POS-in-your-view, and me for not visiting a forum and seeing a "question" posted that has been answred before, and before... Nothing personal in that, mind you, but we all do our best in here to help anyone with issues out, and no one in here has been on the design team for the TF700. Whining won't help -- put your wallet where your opinion is: away from ASUS.
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I do not believe 4.2.1 (or 4.2.2) will solve any of the problems we've been running into -- it might even make them far worse.
@ray3andrei: I'd sell the 700 if I were you. It makes at leats two people on this Earth significantly happier: you, and me. You because you will no longer have to put up with this mediocre POS-in-your-view, and me for not visiting a forum and seeing a "question" posted that has been answred before, and before... Nothing personal in that, mind you, but we all do our best in here to help anyone with issues out, and no one in here has been on the design team for the TF700. Whining won't help -- put your wallet where your opinion is: away from ASUS.
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lol you made my day, all the negative responses, and btw the question was about 4.2 not the lagginess of the tablet, and i have a lot of asus products and im very happy with them,
XDA is just great right now with members like you, nothing personal bro
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lol you made my day, all the negative responses, and btw the question was about 4.2 not the lagginess of the tablet, and i have a lot of asus products and im very happy with them,
XDA is just great right now with members like you, nothing personal bro and last time i checked no1 forces you to post or read this
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I'm simply confused of why does asus release updates on the lower end model?
I ditched the 300 for the infinity, and never looked behind but now it kind of backfires, i'm still hoping 4.2 will solve some of the lag issues, i just don't understand why the 300 is smoother with lower specs, ( dont bring screen res in this please)
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lol you made my day, all the negative responses, and btw the question was about 4.2 not the lagginess of the tablet, and i have a lot of asus products and im very happy with them,
XDA is just great right now with members like you, nothing personal bro
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Get your act together -- you specifically said in your OP that you hoped 4.2 fixed the lag issues. SELL THE 700 AND BUY AN IPAD.
EDIT: How the hell can you tell XDA has gone downhill when you only registered in June 2012, probably when you got your 700? Pffff...
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lol you made my day, all the negative responses, and btw the question was about 4.2 not the lagginess of the tablet, and i have a lot of asus products and im very happy with them,
XDA is just great right now with members like you, nothing personal bro
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You asked a question in which you didnt want to be given the answer that is the answer. Yes there are bugs in the Rom but you cannot expect people to give you answer they dont have or you dont want given to you. 4.2 will eventually be released for the tf700, why they released it on the 300 first idk, maybe there was more bugs to work out on the tf700 than on the 300. If you are not happy with the tf700 then go back to the 300. Other then that there are no other answers to be given.
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They always release stuff for the TF300 first. I would imagine that it has a larger user base and that it's a bit of a guinea pig release for them. I have noted that with previous releases that Asus are fairly quick and knocking out updates to fix things and then the TF700 gets the new patched release as its first release. This is what happened with 4.1.1
Not sure why everyone keeps asserting that they are somehow using the tf300 to improve the update before releasing to the tf700 crowd. Just because it has some logic behind it does not mean that Asus is in any way as logical as your reasoning.
I repeat, Tien has stated in no uncertain terms that the development teams are different and if you look at the features of the devices, they are similar but not the same in most cases, but different enough to require different teams and feature support.
Sdbags... U da man, but sorry, as illogical as it is, Asus is sharing little from one team to the other. It is a total crap shoot at this point what features get implemented and what bugs carry over from one device to another. This has upset me from the beginning and been a point of contention with my many transformer users whom I support in a corporate setting.
As far as I am concerned, they should get some help from the talented developers here, like yourself to get this running properly.
The tf300 is a lower priced device and they are less concerned about backlash from upset users who pay as much as an iPad to get a high end device... They can always claim that it is an entry level device when issues occur with the tf300.
If you look at the features that the 700 has, you can see that there are some additional things that need to be supported before releasing it. IPS+, resolution, different CPU/GPU profiles, support for more ps3 controller profiles, the list goes on.
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Not sure why everyone keeps asserting that they are somehow using the tf300 to improve the update before releasing to the tf700 crowd. Just because it has some logic behind it does not mean that Asus is in any way as logical as your reasoning.
I repeat, Tien has stated in no uncertain terms that the development teams are different and if you look at the features of the devices, they are similar but not the same in most cases, but different enough to require different teams and feature support.
Sdbags... U da man, but sorry, as illogical as it is, Asus is sharing little from one team to the other. It is a total crap shoot at this point what features get implemented and what bugs carry over from one device to another. This has upset me from the beginning and been a point of contention with my many transformer users whom I support in a corporate setting.
As far as I am concerned, they should get some help from the talented developers here, like yourself to get this running properly.
The tf300 is a lower priced device and they are less concerned about backlash from upset users who pay as much as an iPad to get a high end device... They can always claim that it is an entry level device when issues occur with the tf300.
If you look at the features that the 700 has, you can see that there are some additional things that need to be supported before releasing it. IPS+, resolution, different CPU/GPU profiles, support for more ps3 controller profiles, the list goes on.
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Having examined the rom files for the TF700 and TF300 the two devices are a lot closer than you think. The firmwares also share many similarities. In fact a TF300 file and a TF700 file are 99% the exact same files so I don't buy the fact that the dev teams don't talk or are different. They are clearly sharing the same source and at times sharing the same outputs.
If you take a TF700 rom and flash it on a TF300 even with a TF700 kernel everything works except the front facing camera. I believe the hardware is different thus causing that. Otherwise they work the same. Even TF300 users have success overclocking to the same speeds as TF700 users..... The reverse is also true - in fact they don't remove the higher res files form the TF300 because in my opinion it is easier to build one version that fits both.
If I were them I would release new stuff to one user base first, get the bugs ironed out and then release to the higher end user base. Seems very logical and a very good IT release strategy to me. And in fact this is what they did with the JB 4.1.1 release and they appear to be doing with the 4.2.1 release. There is no release date for the TF700. Why? Imo (not based on any facts of course) they are waiting to see if it works well. If so they release a version of it for the TF700, if not they patch the TF300 and we wait a bit longer. So far the reviews from the TF300 users is good - no major bugs (unlike the 4.2 google nexus release) so I expect us to have the TF700 version in the first week of April if history repeats itself.
You make a lot of sense man, if I had not heard it from tien and Gary, I wouldn't believe it either. And as much as I agree with your logic, it's just not the case... They both start with the same base from Google, add their custom framework- that IS 99% of the code. They are very close, but as you have seen with the camera, they are not the same device... Bad strategy, I agree.
The only "facts" I have are what the reps have said in dealing with troubleshooting those devices with Asus.
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Get your act together -- you specifically said in your OP that you hoped 4.2 fixed the lag issues. SELL THE 700 AND BUY AN IPAD.
EDIT: How the hell can you tell XDA has gone downhill when you only registered in June 2012, probably when you got your 700? Pffff...
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I had an ipad and sold it, because i didnt like it, and i got my tf700 before june, aaaand i like the tablet tbh. And yeah i said i hope 4.2 fixes the lag issues but thats not what im focusing on,
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You asked a question in which you didnt want to be given the answer that is the answer. Yes there are bugs in the Rom but you cannot expect people to give you answer they dont have or you dont want given to you. 4.2 will eventually be released for the tf700, why they released it on the 300 first idk, maybe there was more bugs to work out on the tf700 than on the 300. If you are not happy with the tf700 then go back to the 300. Other then that there are no other answers to be given.
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I asked that where exactly?
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I asked that where exactly?
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Here:
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... i just don't understand why the 300 is smoother with lower specs, ( dont bring screen res in this please )...
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I had an ipad and sold it, because i didnt like it, and i got my tf700 before june, aaaand i like the tablet tbh. And yeah i said i hope 4.2 fixes the lag issues but thats not what im focusing on,
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Wat other improvement are you expecting from 4.2 then? Muti-user capability? Hardly game-chaning, isn't it? Very few users actually use it on the devices that provide the capability.
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Coming from the touchpad where we had the major players, wondering how asus infinity development is gonna be. What are you guys expecting from this super tablet?
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Coming from the touchpad where we had the major players, wondering how asus infinity development is gonna be. What are you guys expecting from this super tablet?
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I'm expecting the usual assortment of CM9/AOKP/Paranoid/etc. and a few native linux options. If you poke your head in the dev forums of other Asus tablets, you'll see they have great support so I'd be surprised if the same werent the case here.
Glad to see another Touchpad escapee here :good:
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I'm expecting the usual assortment of CM9/AOKP/Paranoid/etc. and a few native linux options. If you poke your head in the dev forums of other Asus tablets, you'll see they have great support so I'd be surprised if the same werent the case here.
Glad to see another Touchpad escapee here :good:
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Well we aren't going to get much development until the bootloader is unlocked. Not to say we won't get some though. I expect CyanogenMod and AOKP to fully support us, as they have in the past with other Transformer devices. They already have CM10 running pretty well on the Prime. And that's a preview build too.
Yup, I have very high hopes for CM, but even better for AOKP as I really like that on my SGS2. I don't know how it would fare on the TF700, obviously, but it seems the high-end character of the device means that we'll have lots of good ROM options going once we get to that unlocked bootloader...
How will paranoidandroid work on such a high resolution? I'm pretty sure we'll be getting CM and AOKP as well as flavors of the stock rom.
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How will paranoidandroid work on such a high resolution? I'm pretty sure we'll be getting CM and AOKP as well as flavors of the stock rom.
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Not sure if I even care to change the stock ROM. The main reason why I changed the one on my Bionic is because I don't like Blur (although, ICS Blur is actually really nice). I really like CM and AOKP, not sure which one I'll go with.
I had the TF300T and I was disappointed that there were only 3 devs (1 didn't have the device) working on roms. I'm hoping the TF700 community is like the TF201 community.
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I had the TF300T and I was disappointed that there were only 3 devs (1 didn't have the device) working on roms. I'm hoping the TF700 community is like the TF201 community.
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I had the TF300T and I was disappointed that there were only 3 devs (1 didn't have the device) working on roms. I'm hoping the TF700 community is like the TF201 community.
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how much were you able to sell your used tf300 for?
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I had the TF300T and I was disappointed that there were only 3 devs (1 didn't have the device) working on roms. I'm hoping the TF700 community is like the TF201 community.
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Given the fact that the TF70 will take over (or rather has taken over) as the new Android supertablet, I'd expect the development to indeed be more like the TF201's development than the TF300. The main deal breaker could be the fact that not everyone in the development section will 1) see the technical need to upgrade, and, even if so, 2) have the money to actually do so. It remains to be seen, obviously, but I'm not anxious, and as the others also said: CM and AOKP will probably be coming, so we have the basis of the best ROMs covered.
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how much were you able to sell your used tf300 for?
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I actually just took it back to Best Buy and did an exchange and had them order it. Used my 60-day return policy to the fullest.
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I actually just took it back to Best Buy and did an exchange and had them order it. Used my 60-day return policy to the fullest.
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Take advantage of the system!
If you can't beat the system, take advantage of it? ;-)
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If you can't beat the system, take advantage of it? ;-)
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Exactly.
Lol this is about rom potential guys, not return policies, as much as I love the taking advantage of the system part
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Lol this is about rom potential guys, not return policies, as much as I love the taking advantage of the system part
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Well there isn't much else to say until someone says "Hi, I'm going to start developing this ROM for this tablet."
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Well there isn't much else to say until someone says "Hi, I'm going to start developing this ROM for this tablet."
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I expect CM9 (RC?) to be available for the Infinity pretty quickly after unlocking tool release.
On the other hand, I'm not sure I want to be an early adopter, especially with JB for the Infinity hopefully on its way and after having some serious WiFi and GPS issues on Android phones running CM7. If this is the fastest way to get JB on my Infinity, however, I'd be sure to reconsider.
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I expect CM9 (RC?) to be available for the Infinity pretty quickly after unlocking tool release.
On the other hand, I'm not sure I want to be an early adopter, especially with JB for the Infinity hopefully on its way and after having some serious WiFi and GPS issues on Android phones running CM7. If this is the fastest way to get JB on my Infinity, however, I'd be sure to reconsider.
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I'm running CM9 on my phone and it runs great. No Wifi or GPS issues here (although it's technically not an official build).
I just posted on one of CyanogenMod's posts asking about CM10 for the Infinity. They just sent out a preview build for the TF101 and TF201.
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Coming from the touchpad where we had the major players, wondering how asus infinity development is gonna be. What are you guys expecting from this super tablet?
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That's funny that you mention the TouchPad...I really want to get the TF700. If I am able to recoup most of my money on my TF201 then I'd like to switch. Unfortunately, judging from ebay currently, that doesn't look likely.
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I really want to get the TF700. If I am able to recoup most of my money on my TF201 then I'd like to switch. Unfortunately, judging from ebay currently, that doesn't look likely.
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It will look less likely over time.
Wondering if someone that is a lot smarter than me can help me understand this device more. I'm debating whether to return it and would like to know the following:
1. Is it likely that further firmware updates from Asus will improve the speed of scrolling through picture heavy websites and Facebook?
2. Will firmware updates increase speed to open websites?
3. As part of helping me understand the above questions, could someone please point out the hardware components of this device that contribute to the above lag (if there are any).
4. As much as I hate to admit it, the ipad almost does everything I want. My hypocrisy only goes so far though and I absolutely refuse to use itunes. Is there any specific hardware (other than display) that the ipad has that is better than this tablet? This question may help restore my faith that this device will eventually work more smoothly.
Thanks so much for any info you can provide. Hoping for unbiased answers if possible.
Put it this way... At its current state ICS and Tegra 3 are not working very well with each other. The new upgrade to ICS is Jelly Bean which will supposedly eliminate most issues that everyone is having. The new Nexus 7in tablet made by ASUS has JB which from what I've heard and seen will make the Infinity and its siblings complete. So looking forward to some Jelly Bean smoothness!!!
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Wondering if someone that is a lot smarter than me can help me understand this device more. I'm debating whether to return it and would like to know the following:
1. Is it likely that further firmware updates from Asus will improve the speed of scrolling through picture heavy websites and Facebook?
2. Will firmware updates increase speed to open websites?
3. As part of helping me understand the above questions, could someone please point out the hardware components of this device that contribute to the above lag (if there are any).
4. As much as I hate to admit it, the ipad almost does everything I want. My hypocrisy only goes so far though and I absolutely refuse to use itunes. Is there any specific hardware (other than display) that the ipad has that is better than this tablet? This question may help restore my faith that this device will eventually work more smoothly.
Thanks so much for any info you can provide. Hoping for unbiased answers if possible.
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1) To be honest i don't even know if it's Asus fault and i'm saying this because i've heard many complains about lag on Facebook application and site and those complains were coming from people with different devices/platforms
2) I'm positive that with firmware updates (from Asus or custom roms from XDA devs) the performance will get better as for now development on this device is still in early stages
3) Hardware related could be only the poor internal storage chip (also to be seen if this "bottleneck" is hardware or driver/software related)
4) I also have an Apple device (was a gift) but i don't like Apple... but maybe for a productive enviroment i would go with it.But if i want a device that i can "feel" as my own and do everything i want with it (good or bad) i would go with an Android device.
P.S: IMHO nobody can tell you better what is good for you than yourself...
Thanks for the feedback. It sounds like we won't know more until the next firmware update. I just hope it comes out soon in case it turns out to be a hardware deficiency so I can return the device.
Does the Nexus tablet have any better hardware? Is it just Jelly Bean that makes it operate better?
Lurchy24 said:
Wondering if someone that is a lot smarter than me can help me understand this device more. I'm debating whether to return it and would like to know the following:
1. Is it likely that further firmware updates from Asus will improve the speed of scrolling through picture heavy websites and Facebook?
2. Will firmware updates increase speed to open websites?
3. As part of helping me understand the above questions, could someone please point out the hardware components of this device that contribute to the above lag (if there are any).
4. As much as I hate to admit it, the ipad almost does everything I want. My hypocrisy only goes so far though and I absolutely refuse to use itunes. Is there any specific hardware (other than display) that the ipad has that is better than this tablet? This question may help restore my faith that this device will eventually work more smoothly.
Thanks so much for any info you can provide. Hoping for unbiased answers if possible.
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Ok, an unbiased answer, huh.... I'll give it a shot.
1) and 2) I'll answer these in cnjunction with eachother, as I think they are intertwined. I think that in the coming months ASUS will give out more updates that quite possibly will tackle any remaining issues with the tablet software-wise. Quite obviously, any hardware-related issues will remain fully in effect. So, as far as any stuttering or hiccups related to the OS or drivers are concerned, I think we should be seeing improvement; that goes for opening websites and scrolling speed, etc. as well. (However, keep in mind that comparing loading and scrolling speed is not exactly trivial due to a lot of parameters involved.)
3) Nobody in here will be able to tell you this, I'm afraid, or somebody has opened up his TF700 without me noticing the post. We have suspicions it's the emmc storage that is causing the I/O issues (Hynix?), but it might be (partly) due to the driverset used.
4) If the iPad suits your needs, why not pick an iPad? There are several good applications available that provide sync without iTunes being involved.The display is an obvious numerical]/i]advantage over the TF700, although the TF700 has visibly higher screen bightness and the screen resolution is not noticeably better in practical usage. To me, the extra (removable) storage availabe is priceless, and the charging dock is a real boon!
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Thanks for the feedback. It sounds like we won't know more until the next firmware update. I just hope it comes out soon in case it turns out to be a hardware deficiency so I can return the device.
Does the Nexus tablet have any better hardware? Is it just Jelly Bean that makes it operate better?
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The hardware of the Nexus 7 is slower than the one from the Infinity.
The Infinity has a higher resolution though so at the end it's probably more or less the same.
But I can tell you Jelly Bean is a huge improvement in terms of fluidity.
Not without a reason costs the Galaxy Nexus now 50 bucks more than before the update.
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Lurchy24 said:
Thanks for the feedback. It sounds like we won't know more until the next firmware update. I just hope it comes out soon in case it turns out to be a hardware deficiency so I can return the device.
Does the Nexus tablet have any better hardware? Is it just Jelly Bean that makes it operate better?
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Its not better in specs it has the same tegra 3 processors as the infinity just slower at 1.2ghz vs the infinity that is clocked at 1.6ghz. The key to it is that it is optimized by the new Jelly Bean os. Things run a lot smoother when processors and os (ICS) is not fighting over how things should run when an application is launched navigating from screen to screen, browsing, power management etc. Once it drops everyone hopefully will be satisfied with there investment. This is of coarse just my opinion from reading and trying out the nexus 7 tablet.
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Thanks again for the answers. I think that I'll hold out for the update as I do appreciate the added functionality this tablet carries.
Hello all,
I don't know why but, recently all I have read from this forum is "how bad Infinity TF700 is" or "how he/she decided to switch Samsung/Ipad etc. over Infinity". I don't know, it just makes me feel more and more paranoid about my tablet.
I know this sounds quite naive, but is there anyone who feels the same way?
You're not alone. I'm very dissappointed with the quality and performance that 600 dollars got me. Not to mention the poor quality of dock (pivot so stiff it would've broken my screen and partially attached SD card cable) that cost me another 116 bucks. Hopefully they're taking their time releasing Jelly Bean update so that things get fixed correctly and not do a half-a$$ed job
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Hello all,
I don't know why but, recently all I have read from this forum is "how bad Infinity TF700 is" or "how he/she decided to switch Samsung/Ipad etc. over Infinity". I don't know, it just makes me feel more and more paranoid about my tablet.
I know this sounds quite naive, but is there anyone who feels the same way?
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If you have a working unit, and whatever you do is covered and you are happy with it, I think you shouldn't be concerned about.
It's just simply no device is perfect and that's always the case with technology. So we all have to compromise something and sometimes the compromise is not noticeable as you may not even use those functions.
Infinity has gorgeous screen, attachable keyboard, and ASUS's reputation of quick software update. Though I myself left Infinity (at least for now), there are still people like me coming back to this forum as we still liked infinity in many aspect and hoping the issues we faced get fixed (presumably by software).
Personally, jumping from iPad 2 and Galaxy Tablet 10.1 4G, I noticed gorgeous screen of infinity quickly. Then some application launching much faster than my old Galaxy Tablet. But battery life, frequent ANR, much slower browser load time (this was actually fixed most part after applying d's tweaking tip), and unexpected crashes.
But to be honest, if I didn't use my primarily Flash sites, if I didn't need full day battery (without keyboard), I probably wouldn't even noticed any issue of infinity.
I currently have Galaxy Note 10.1. Is it perfect? No. Everything but FHD I say yes. But FHD is such a huge component because I read many ebooks with detailed pictures... So I am still torn.
Again, nothing is perfect. You just need to put a priority of what's important to you. With future updates, Infinity will get better not worse, so that's promising. But I wouldn't count on saying, with JB update everything will be perfect.
I personally love mine, and would recommend it to others. Not to suggest that there are no issues, but I'd be willing to bet that the silent majority of people are just getting along and enjoying their device and not posting here.
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Hello all,
I don't know why but, recently all I have read from this forum is "how bad Infinity TF700 is" or "how he/she decided to switch Samsung/Ipad etc. over Infinity". I don't know, it just makes me feel more and more paranoid about my tablet.
I know this sounds quite naive, but is there anyone who feels the same way?
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I've been enjoying my TF700 Infinity more and more as I've seen the performance improve with the Zeus custom rom, so I don't let the complaints get me down. Many people are just wondering what is normal for the device, and some are just looking for assistance. I think it's to be expected with a new device, especially one so complex. The same thing happened with the Nexus 7 forum...for the first month or so, all you would read would be the most pitiful complaints, people on their 7th Nexus 7, light bleed, lifting screens and dead pixels, slow development, and then, all of a sudden, the Nexus 7 is everyone's darling.
If you love your Infinity, enjoy it. You're an early adopter, so there are always risks with something new that pushes bounderies.
Personally I love my TF700. Use it all the time. Love the battery life with the dock (practically always together). I am just waiting for some custom ROMs, or preferably a dualboot for Linux/Android.
Maybe i'm not a stickler when it comes to the "defects", but I am satisfied that the tablet works, has an amazing screen, gives me amazing battery life, has a true keyboard dock (not BT), and a USB port, among other things. I look at the positive things, and since none of the "defects" really take away from the performance, I don't have much to complain about. (on top of that, I haven't even installed Zeus v4, still stock, and I hear that will make a world of a difference.)
Just my $0.02
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Just think about the zabillion Infinity people who have never heard of XDA or any other android device web review site that are happily tapping and swiping away with big 'ole smiles across their mugs.
All of us on here just love torturing ourselves with Ooooo my battery only lasted 7.34 hours or I dang I noticed my tab weighs a few micro kilograms more than my last one...
I know if I keep scoping mine I'll find something...only then will I be mad but happy I noticed something
is this the first time you ever read a forum? look at any forum - literally any forum about any application/device in existence... there's always someone complaining about something.
your shiny new touch device gets fingerprints on the screen when you touch it with dirty hands? the speakers sound crappy when you try to play music at absurdly high volumes? you opened 10 games and the device feels slow? people can actually beat you in a game? the meat you bought 2 months ago is rotten? the device you damaged yourself is not replaced for free?
it's always the same vocal minority that HAS to complain about something, no matter how unimportant or stupid it is.
tdp252 said:
I personally love mine, and would recommend it to others. Not to suggest that there are no issues, but I'd be willing to bet that the silent majority of people are just getting along and enjoying their device and not posting here.
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Same here, mine is great. I have none of the issues that users complain about frequently. Only thing is that yes, it does tend to lag, but then again, it is the most powerful tegra 3 so its just a software issue i'm sure asus will fix
I feel awkward about ASUS, they are behaving very slow with the Infinity.
Back when the Transformer Prime was their most current Android tablet we saw biweekly almost weekly firmware updates for the tablet.
It gave us Prime owners the sense that ASUS was actively working to make sure it's customers were getting the best experience.
I've had my Infinity tablet for over a month now since I did the Best Buy exchange, and I haven't seen a single firmware OTA from ASUS.
There's ICS features that the Transformer Prime received in updates that are lacking in the Transformer Pad Infinity.
ASUS spread themselves too thin with the Prime, TF300, Nexus 7, and TF700. They've completely neglected their premium Android tablet products.
We saw the same crap on the Prime forums as well. Funny thing is, I have 2 Primes and 2 Infinity tabs and both work just fine.
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is this the first time you ever read a forum? look at any forum - literally any forum about any application/device in existence... there's always someone complaining about something.
your shiny new touch device gets fingerprints on the screen when you touch it with dirty hands? the speakers sound crappy when you try to play music at absurdly high volumes? you opened 10 games and the device feels slow? people can actually beat you in a game? the meat you bought 2 months ago is rotten? the device you damaged yourself is not replaced for free?
it's always the same vocal minority that HAS to complain about something, no matter how unimportant or stupid it is.
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Why so angry man, just calm down. This is general section of the forum and i just wanted yo ask a bout a feeling that i perceive. Did not mean to make people angry, sorry again.
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I feel awkward about ASUS, they are behaving very slow with the Infinity.
Back when the Transformer Prime was their most current Android tablet we saw biweekly almost weekly firmware updates for the tablet.
It gave us Prime owners the sense that ASUS was actively working to make sure it's customers were getting the best experience.
I've had my Infinity tablet for over a month now since I did the Best Buy exchange, and I haven't seen a single firmware OTA from ASUS.
There's ICS features that the Transformer Prime received in updates that are lacking in the Transformer Pad Infinity.
ASUS spread themselves too thin with the Prime, TF300, Nexus 7, and TF700. They've completely neglected their premium Android tablet products.
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You sure the lack of updates doesn't mean that something big, like JB, is coming soon? I'm pretty sure that ASUS would not waste the time and money implementing features on the TF700's ICS if JB were already near completion.
Also, for the prime, the updates mainly served to fix issues, which we don't have on the infinity.
I feel you, I went through the same thing with the prime. I agree the Infinity is not perfect but for me I have a functional one that runs quite well. Don't kid yourself if you think the iPad and the Note don't have issues. Good luck with your decision.
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Why so angry man, just calm down. This is general section of the forum and i just wanted yo ask a bout a feeling that i perceive. Did not mean to make people angry, sorry again.
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Aww...I don't think anyone is mad...
Grain of salt.
Had a thot tho.
I wonder if the TF700T was implemented early to rush the market and beat Samsung and Acer with their new tabs?
Especially the A700 which I don't believe weathered it's hardware bugs too well.
I have a feeling the Infinity was built for Android 4.1...yet does fine with ICS.
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Also, for the prime, the updates mainly served to fix issues, which we don't have on the infinity.
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Lets be real..lol Infinity has or has had most of same software issues as prime had. Games crashing. Tons of threads here on it. Browser issues. Poor I/O performance. Primes updates were released to add new features and address those things. Infinity pad also had update to address a major issue. Which is I/O performance. It did show a minor to decent improvement but wasn't solved. So its not all peaches n cream over here in Infinity forum either.
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like you said, Asus not likely wasting anymore time on ICS. If jb is that close, no need to waste resources on ICS. So lets all hope it brings the true stability Infinity pad and Prime deserves. Along with new features and any further improvements that can be made, software wise, to better I/O performance. Also get the gaming rigght. No reason my nexus 7 can play any game flawlessly without crashing and the infinity pad and prime can't. I don't need to have any mods or limiting processes or custom roms for my N7 high performance and stability. I have a feeling the real power and performance will be seen on Prime and Infinity pad once JB is released.
Plus I also believe more people who have good working infinity pads should post/male threads and let people know. New people coming Imto forum get scaredoff from so many complaint threads. We know alot of infinity owners have issues. BUT the flipsode is that ALOT have great working units also. There needs to Be a balance being represented. People do have valid complaints but people also have genuine praises for this device also.
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Plus I also believe more people who have good working infinity pads should post/male threads and let people know. New people coming Imto forum get scaredoff from so many complaint threads. We know alot of infinity owners have issues. BUT the flipsode is that ALOT have great working units also. There needs to Be a balance being represented. People do have valid complaints but people also have genuine praises for this device also.
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We are too busy enjoying them to post on a forum!
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New people coming Imto forum get scaredoff from so many complaint threads. We know alot of infinity owners have issues. BUT the flipsode is that ALOT have great working units also. There needs to Be a balance being represented. People do have valid complaints but people also have genuine praises for this device also.
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One of the best things the mods on the Prime forum did was to make a dedicated complaints thread. Basically, if you wanted to ***** about your Prime, get it off your chest in that thread otherwise your thread is closed. I think this forum would really benefit from that because this continual posting of negative threads is getting really BORING for people like me who are happy with their Infinitys. Sure, people have a right to complain but why not dump it all in one thread??
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Lets be real..lol Infinity has or has had most of same software issues as prime had. Games crashing. Tons of threads here on it. Browser issues. Poor I/O performance. Primes updates were released to add new features and address those things. Infinity pad also had update to address a major issue. Which is I/O performance. It did show a minor to decent improvement but wasn't solved. So its not all peaches n cream over here in Infinity forum either.
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like you said, Asus not likely wasting anymore time on ICS. If jb is that close, no need to waste resources on ICS. So lets all hope it brings the true stability Infinity pad and Prime deserves. Along with new features and any further improvements that can be made, software wise, to better I/O performance. Also get the gaming rigght. No reason my nexus 7 can play any game flawlessly without crashing and the infinity pad and prime can't. I don't need to have any mods or limiting processes or custom roms for my N7 high performance and stability. I have a feeling the real power and performance will be seen on Prime and Infinity pad once JB is released.
Plus I also believe more people who have good working infinity pads should post/male threads and let people know. New people coming Imto forum get scaredoff from so many complaint threads. We know alot of infinity owners have issues. BUT the flipsode is that ALOT have great working units also. There needs to Be a balance being represented. People do have valid complaints but people also have genuine praises for this device also.
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The main problems with the prime were wifi and gps issues. Most of the updates were toward those two things, and not toward the other issues you mentioned.
I disagree about your other point, that people should let others know. I believe that people should stop making threads that bash and keep to the threads that already exist. It doesn't do good to look like a marketing shill, either for or against the tablet, no matter the truth of anyone's statements.
Most of the "infinity sucks" posts are from the SAME PEOPLE. Most of these detractors claim to have already sold/returned their Infinity's yet come here over and over again just to troll.
I admit the Infinity has a lot of issues and it is disappointing to me that it has more issues than the TF300 I sold but I will be patient and see if Asus fixes things. I have had enough experience with Asus products to know they are one of the better companies out there when it comes to dealing with issues.
they better be optimizing the hell out of Jelly Bean in prep for a massive promotion of the TFI's Android 4.1 rollout.
I personally feel ASUS have neglected the Infinity tablet worse than they did when their Transformer Prime was their most newest Transformer.
I've not seen a single update notification from them since I got this tablet on July 30th, and it's now September 8.
Do they still have that facebook page they use to respond to?
There hasn't been any new news from Googling the Transformer Infinity (besides it's launches in Europe and Australia) since it's reviews and launch reports that were made in June and July.
I know Google intentions were to boast it's Nexus 7 tablet, but wouldn't it made since to keep your more premium tablet running your software on the same level of promotion?
Key: TFI = Transformer Infinity
Havent even seen Gary Keys set foot in this forum even to say hi. Prime is discontinued Gary move on to the Infinity forum and save the tablet by giving insights to what is up. The infinity still has bugs that needs terminating and this is suppose to be the high end of transformers. Its suppose to get some high end service... Right? Hehehe..
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they better be optimizing the hell out of Jelly Bean in prep for a massive promotion of the TFI's Android 4.1 rollout.
I personally feel ASUS have neglected the Infinity tablet worse than they did when their Transformer Prime was their most newest Transformer.
I've not seen a single update notification from them since I got this tablet on July 30th, and it's now September 8.
Do they still have that facebook page they use to respond to?
There hasn't been any new news from Googling the Transformer Infinity (besides it's launches in Europe and Australia) since it's reviews and launch reports that were made in June and July.
I know Google intentions were to boast it's Nexus 7 tablet, but wouldn't it made since to keep your more premium tablet running your software on the same level of promotion?
Key: TFI = Transformer Infinity
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You'll get what we send you Mr.!!!
...kidding of course
I'm with you hoping for something really good.
Can't complain much lately...been enjoying the Infinity.
I am very curious about an optimized 4.1 though.
Good luck to us all...
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Havent even seen Gary Keys set foot in this forum even to say hi. Prime is discontinued Gary move on to the Infinity forum and save the tablet by giving insights to what is up. The infinity still has bugs that needs terminating and this is suppose to be the high end of transformers. Its suppose to get some high end service... Right? Hehehe..
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Why would you expect ASUS, a greedy megacorporation, to set foot in some obscure forum on the corner of the internet?
They got your money and that's all they need.
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Keion said:
Why would you expect ASUS, a greedy megacorporation, to set foot in some obscure forum on the corner of the internet?
They got your money and that's all they need.
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Let's be fair, they're not as bad as Shinra
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Let's be fair, they're not as bad as Shinra
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Maybe not as bad, however, everything Shinra built worked as promised.
junrider said:
Havent even seen Gary Keys set foot in this forum even to say hi. Prime is discontinued Gary move on to the Infinity forum and save the tablet by giving insights to what is up. The infinity still has bugs that needs terminating and this is suppose to be the high end of transformers. Its suppose to get some high end service... Right? Hehehe..
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Gary Key was trying to cover and hide the issues with the Prime and save Asus's reputation. He is in marketing, not engineering. That was all a big joke. The Infinity doesn't have near the issues the Prime had so Gary wont come over here unless the media starts reporting negatively on the Infinity. I will still never forget Gary Key saying in that interview that the Serial Number Unknown issues were fixed server side when there were dozens of people on these forums who still had the problem and the only fix was to send in your tablet and get a replacement. He flat out lied and I'm glad he isn't around.
Wtf Asus...Samsung Note 10.1 Was just released, not even available here in Canada yet but there is already a JB leak:
http://www.androidauthority.com/lea...ate-galaxy-tab-2-7-0-galaxy-note-10-1-113354/
Get on with it ASUS!!!!
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Wtf Asus...Samsung Note 10.1 Was just released, not even available here in Canada yet but there is already a JB leak:
http://www.androidauthority.com/lea...ate-galaxy-tab-2-7-0-galaxy-note-10-1-113354/
Get on with it ASUS!!!!
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We technically have a "leak" too with the guy who got the OTA in that other thread.
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why do people make these threads? If you are not happy with the device, exchange it for something else. Why keep buying from a company, whos reputation you don't like? They didnt force us to buy their products. Yes, there are bugs. Give them time to fix everything. They issue a fix today, and then new bugs show up tomorrow, do you expect them to release another update the next day? I'm sure people are hard at work trying to rectify all of the issues. And yes, they still have the FB page, and announced on there several times that JB would be coming this month. People just need to have patience. Every time some type of update gets announced, people start making threads asking when will we get them. technology is not something that can be created in a matter of minutes.
My Infinity is not perfect. But i can be patient and have confidence that Asus will fix the issues. Why wouldnt they? How can they just leave us with messed up devices, and then come out with new products? Who will buy them, given they got over us on the first time? Contact ASUS and voice your complaints. It really doesnt help posting them here.
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why do people make these threads?
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I dunno...
Why do we keep posting in these threads
We're all gonna be pissed when Toshiba, Slamsung, IBM, etc. finally kick in with entries into HD Android tabs.
I know I'll probably fall for the next best thing...just like everybody else.
From what I have read Asus will not update the TF700T to 4.2 until the 2nd quarter of 2013 and I wonder why. I am no developer but isn't it just a kernel flash. I mean why wait so long if its not a complete redo of the android version?
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loner. said:
From what I have read Asus will not update the TF700T to 4.2 until the 2nd quarter of 2013 and I wonder why. I am no developer but isn't it just a kernel flash. I mean why wait so long if its not a complete redo of the android version?
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Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.
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Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.
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ALMOST FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR LAUGHING!!! Good stuff... can't let infinity users suffer... you are serious?
king231 said:
Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.
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Dude..... xD
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king231 said:
Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.
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Awww, F%&#... This made me laugh so hard I think I have ruptured my diaphragm. Might have broken a few ribs as well. If I stop responding for the next five days, I've passed away.
Oh, oh, oh.. the pain...
king231 said:
Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.
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That's a lot better than Toshiba did with the thrive. Toshiba didn't support it or seem to care.
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It's a bit more than a kernel flash. There are some substantial changes between 4.1 and 4.2
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It's a bit more than a kernel flash. There are some substantial changes between 4.1 and 4.2
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Do you already know if 4.2 is compatible with a 4.1 kernel?
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Do you already know if 4.2 is compatible with a 4.1 kernel?
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No not yet. Do you want to have a look. I'll set up a link for you.
king231 said:
Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.
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Hahahahahaha... :laugh: Not letting Infinity users suffer? In which universe?
Anyway, the same thing happened with Jelly Bean. Asus rolled it out to the low and mid-range tablets first as a testrun, and when it worked properly (more or less, I still can't type an é) they send it our way.
I'd rather wait a few more months than get a buggy OS. Besides, I'm already glad Asus decided to incorporate the option to get rid of that horrendous 7"-designed double bar UI.
So it's 6 days in on March, so we expect to see Android 4.2 update for TF700 in 25 days.
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So it's 6 days in on March, so we expect to see Android 4.2 update for TF700 in 25 days.
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Awesome. Let's just hope asus can get it together and deliver a good update (I know I know... It's not likely). Is sad that many people have had to unlock just to get the value they payed for
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That's a lot better than Toshiba did with the thrive. Toshiba didn't support it or seem to care.
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MartyHulskemper said:
Awww, F%&#... This made me laugh so hard I think I have ruptured my diaphragm. Might have broken a few ribs as well. If I stop responding for the next five days, I've passed away.
Oh, oh, oh.. the pain...
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Dude..... xD
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ALMOST FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR LAUGHING!!! Good stuff... can't let infinity users suffer... you are serious?
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I was talking about any major bugs if they ever existed. When tf300 got jellybean 4.1 the performance went terribly bad and had a hell lot of bugs. But when the update came to infinity some bugs were fixed and the performance was not as bad as it was on tf300. I know that a few ppl are not happy with infinity but the fact is none of the android tablets are totally bug free. If you want something so smooth or something just go with apple. But i bet its not as open as android.
We are all here to get the most from an android tablet, dealing with that stupid fruit company's products is it's own kind of suffering. That said, android could be better on our beloved tabs than Asus has allowed it to be. My father has a 300 and it has gone through growing plains also but I still see them dropping the ball on features on their entire tablet line, I had a 200(but let's not go there). They need to get their act together with this one. I want my HDMI scale and crop options back, and please don't take away my locking task bar again! They should be better at these by now but I disagree that they learned anything from the 300 and took it to the 700. If nothing else, look through the feature changes and issues that people run into on the 200, 300, and 700 updates and you will see that these are completely different development teams. Tien from Asus said it himself, the teams are not working together and some of the changes and features on one model may never get applied to others. That includes fixes.
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I was talking about any major bugs if they ever existed. When tf300 got jellybean 4.1 the performance went terribly bad and had a hell lot of bugs. But when the update came to infinity some bugs were fixed and the performance was not as bad as it was on tf300. I know that a few ppl are not happy with infinity but the fact is none of the android tablets are totally bug free. If you want something so smooth or something just go with apple. But i bet its not as open as android.
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they're also laughing that you implied we tf700 owners get some kind of special treatment and that asus uses tf300 owners as guinea pigs.. that's ridiculous.
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they're also laughing that you implied we tf700 owners get some kind of special treatment and that asus uses tf300 owners as guinea pigs.. that's ridiculous.
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Mostly we're laughing because of the I/O issue and the (in the US) poor build quality, and the accents on the keyboard dock that still aren't functioning, and other such issues. Oh, and the WiFi/GPS issue of a certain previous tablet.
Older and lower-range products have always been used as guinea pigs... someone has to be the test group. Makes sense to go with those who paid less for the product.
Yes, I laughed my proverbial ass off at the implication thatwe'll be spared bugs because of 'testing' on the TF300. Firstly, they're different devices, although there are clear parallels. On the TF700 the screen resolution does seem to bring the Tegra3 to its knees far more easily than of the TF300. Furthermore, ASUS has known about the I/O issue for AGES, and athough the TF201 owners were quite vocal about the crappy performance on their devices, ASUS didn't give a **** and put the TF700 out there with identical device genetics and thus the same problems. The only fix they made was the plastic strip that alleviated the WiFi/GPS problems.
So, yes, I found your remark the most entertaining one that day.
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Yes, I laughed my proverbial ass off at the implication thatwe'll be spared bugs because of 'testing' on the TF300. Firstly, they're different devices, although there are clear parallels. On the TF700 the screen resolution does seem to bring the Tegra3 to its knees far more easily than of the TF300. Furthermore, ASUS has known about the I/O issue for AGES, and athough the TF201 owners were quite vocal about the crappy performance on their devices, ASUS didn't give a **** and put the TF700 out there with identical device genetics and thus the same problems. The only fix they made was the plastic strip that alleviated the WiFi/GPS problems.
So, yes, I found your remark the most entertaining one that day.
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I wonder if this could be cause for class action.
I mean not being able to download a app and browse at the same time for me is a complete disappointment.
I would consider that to be a reasonable expectation of performance, and if this was really a "known" issue with a definitive solution, and was not addressed in a newer model, just seems like we got a lemon and Ausus knew it.
This is my first and only tablet and I don't have a lot of experience with them, but I think the "Browser has stop responding" message all the time when running stock is ridiculous. I know there are workarounds but at $600 dollars for a 3rd Gen tablet we shouldn't need workarounds for basic functionality.
Question: Can the memory be changed by a professional with the proper equipment? or is this a situation where the chips are embedded in the board through a process that can not be undone with out destroying the board?
ASUS support, meh, who needs it.
MartyHulskemper said:
Awww, F%&#... This made me laugh so hard I think I have ruptured my diaphragm. Might have broken a few ribs as well. If I stop responding for the next five days, I've passed away.
Oh, oh, oh.. the pain...
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Agreed, If I'd stayed on stock for the past 8 months my device would be in pieces scattered about my apartment. The rage inducing lag was absurd. Quite happy with the new 10.1 nightlies though. Mmmmm 4.2.
Sometimes I wonder if ASUS realizes that truly interested consumers will just go to places like XDA for support and updates, making them slack at supporting their less ambitious customers. Makes some sense (not cool, but logical)
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I wonder if this could be cause for class action.
I mean not being able to download a app and browse at the same time for me is a complete disappointment.
I would consider that to be a reasonable expectation of performance......
Question: Can the memory be changed by a professional with the proper equipment? or is this a situation where the chips are embedded in the board through a process that can not be undone with out destroying the board?
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It should be a reasonable expectation with a premium tablet to have a smooth user interface no matter what updates are being downloaded.
And no, a pro that can de-solder a built in nand chip would likely cost you over $600 and probably wouldn't even work.
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